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khem | bluelightning: I am just wondering if same can happen to OE where we dont get increase in young devs | 04:03 |
bluelightning | that is something we need to keep in mind, but from my reading it seems more like LEDE has come about because of a split in the OpenWrt community | 04:04 |
khem | bluelightning: yeah, thats true, but one reason of the split is they wanted to do different things but were not enough devs | 04:05 |
bluelightning | the "not enough devs" thing is more of a consequence though right? because certain things that should have been changed to theoretically attract new developers weren't able to be changed | 04:06 |
bluelightning | for our project, I always feel like we're moving things forward in a reasonable direction, but I hope people feel like they can speak up if that's not the case | 04:09 |
kergoth | yeah, i don't think we have same sorts of blocks on the progress. there are certainly things we could do to further improve the onboarding process, ease of use, etc, and that's ongoing.. | 04:10 |
bluelightning | indeed | 04:10 |
bluelightning | I do worry sometimes that we place a pretty high barrier to new contributors in terms of all the things you need to learn and get right | 04:11 |
bluelightning | but then, I'm not sure how to lower that barrier without just making more work for ourselves | 04:11 |
kergoth | some of it is tough to address because of the tradeoffs. e.g. a more opinionated design would make certain things cleaner and more obvious to a new dev, but we'd sacrifice much of the flexibility that has helped drive the ability of the project to fit into so many areas | 04:15 |
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khem | more and more folks are getting into rpi kind of world where debian just fits in | 04:26 |
khem | so in general embedded Linux is dead :) | 04:27 |
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kergoth | I disagree, I think with IoT and automotive it's taking off more and more, and plenty of those won't want to use existing commercial general purpose distros | 04:32 |
* kergoth shrugs | 04:32 | |
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bluelightning | I do think our biggest "threat" should one want to consider in that way is traditional distros | 04:47 |
bluelightning | we have to round off our sharp edges and sell our advantages (which aren't simply limited to just being able to target embedded hardware) | 04:48 |
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khem | kergoth: IoT is about sensors | 06:02 |
khem | linux doesnt have to play much role in that may be uclinux for some of it | 06:02 |
khem | rest can run on debian/raspian/rpi sort of things | 06:02 |
khem | or gateways | 06:03 |
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hairyheron | Hi, can somebody help me with an error in core-image-minimal.bb, do_rootfs (yocto fido)? It seems like Python is unable to execute any hash function (e.g. "ERROR:root:code for hash sha1 was not found." from python2.7/hashlib.py:127). Any ideas what to do? | 07:14 |
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hairyheron | ...and libcrypto.so.1.0.0 is empty (0 bytes) | 07:20 |
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Saur | What does this mean: ERROR: Taskhash mismatch c71a41325cf8beb9df90176526709810 verses 97e0d4020c4b04904073c487c1314452 for foo-image.bb.do_rootfs (with latest Poky)? | 10:08 |
JaMa | that your do_rootfs task is most likely using DATETIME somewhere | 10:25 |
JaMa | which causes the taskhash to be changed every second | 10:25 |
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Saur | JaMa: Hmm, ok. Any simple way to tell where? I am not too knowledgeable about the hashes. I have used bitbake-dumpsig some. Can it help here? | 10:33 |
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LeifSo | is anybody else facing issues with failing packaging because of BUILDSPEC and external toolchain being e.g. release 2016.02? | 10:40 |
JaMa | Saur: yes bitbake-diffsigs and bitbake -S is the only way to debug this | 10:40 |
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bluelightning | Saur: I just saw that today too (though with do_populate_sdk_ext) | 10:45 |
hairyheron | Ok, I am still getting a lot of errors "ERROR:root:code for hash sha1 was not found" (also for different hash functions) during Index creation in build_rootfs (poky fido). Any idea how to debug/fix this? | 10:47 |
hairyheron | (do_rootfs, not build_rootfs) | 10:49 |
RP | Saur: did you just update to master or did you have older master-next? | 10:51 |
RP | Saur: what was the previous working version? I'm trying to figure out whether this was a recent change or not | 10:52 |
Saur | RP: I updated from 9094ea9f to 7707cf65 | 10:52 |
RP | Saur: You mean 7707cf65 (May 9th) to 9094ea9f (may 16th) ? | 10:54 |
bluelightning | if it makes any difference, I am at 52b3cc90667d + the pseudo workaround patch cherry-picked | 10:54 |
Saur | RP: 7707cf65 is current master of Poky... | 10:56 |
Saur | Sorry, gotta run to lunch before they close. Back in short while... | 10:56 |
RP | Saur: its not, 2970800a09eb440c73ba1ff is | 10:57 |
RP | Saur: there were changes last night and this morning since then | 10:57 |
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RP | Saur: sorry, I'm misreading dates in these logs. Its authored dates, not commited dates. Now makes more sense | 10:58 |
RP | but master has moved on. We can at least rule out the recent changes which did cause taskhash issues but I thought we'd fixed | 10:59 |
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RP | Saur: I'm going to guess that we changed something which really needed a cache invalidation. "rm tmp/cache" would likely fix those taskhash warnings. The good news is if you upgrade again there is an explict cache invalidation for another change | 11:01 |
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Saur | RP: Bah, I keep forgetting that we have a local mirror of Poky that is only updated once a day. :P | 11:17 |
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cart_man | If I already built my Yocto Image and its running... is there a way to build a SDK for QT or is it also a huge process to go over? | 11:46 |
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cart_man | If I already built my Yocto Image and its running... is there a way to build a SDK for QT or is it also a huge process to go over? | 12:42 |
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xp190 | Hi folks, looking for a little help. I'm building a .so to use as a dynamic crypto engine for openssl. I cross compile it with gcc 4.9.2 (arm-poky-linux-gnueabi) using the following flags: -O1 -march=armv7-a -marm -mthumb-interwork -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon -mtune=cortex-a9 --sysroot=... -fPIC, everything builds and links fine, but when attempting to load, I get unexpected reloc type 0x03. | 13:28 |
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xp190 | After some investigating, I find that my code is compiled with the instruction R_ARM_REL32 which causes this, but to my knowledge -fpic is supposed to prevent this. I'm not able to find a way around this, would anyone have any suggestions? | 13:29 |
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otavio | zeddii: Hello | 13:33 |
otavio | zeddii: berton and I are looking at the docker version issue, with opkg. It seems it is not working because the = operator in opkg is considering the package revision. | 13:34 |
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davis | hello | 13:47 |
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cart_man | If I already built my Yocto Image and its running... is there a way to build a SDK for QT or is it also a huge process to go over or could I use my existing bitbake environment to create it? | 13:50 |
cart_man | Or a better question. ANYBODY know of example/tutorials that I can follow to build a Targeted compiler and QT IDE files for a NXP IMX6 board ? | 13:53 |
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davis | so I am using yocto to build a cross compiler, I want to build a new c app. Is there a good sample for adding a custom app to the build? I assume the layers and recipes I've appended already would be a good start but they are mostly just tweaking install of new files. Nothing for specifying compiler or source. | 18:20 |
dvhart | davis have you looked at the available documentation? or the wiki? | 18:23 |
dvhart | Such as http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#new-recipe-writing-a-new-recipe | 18:24 |
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davis | dvhart: I seldom look at the official yocto docs. I find them obscure and not very helpful. For instance that section you provided, does not show the contents of a single file, nor show many commands and their results. | 18:28 |
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dvhart | davis: I'm sorry to hear that, we have generally received positive feedback on the documentation. You would like to see the entire file instead of snippets? Can you provide an example of the commands or the section/paragraph where a command is missing? | 18:30 |
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dvhart | davis: you may find meta-skeleton useful for recipe examples | 18:31 |
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davis | personally, i believe the arch linux wiki is a good example of a wiki. | 18:32 |
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kergoth | the official yocto docs aren't a wiki, so i don't really see how that's useful | 18:39 |
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davis | hmm. actually in your doc, in section 5.3.18.1 there is a section on a single .c file package. | 18:41 |
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davis | so if there is any thing I could suggest it would be that at the top level header 5.3, include a toc which shows the topics in this section. | 18:42 |
davis | If I go to this section that you provided and I scroll down 10 pages and don't see anything relative to what I'm trying to do, I seldom keep looking. | 18:43 |
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xp190 | Hi, I'm having issues with __aeabi_uidiv when building a .so, I have -lgcc in my link command, but when loading the .so I still get unresolved errors, is there some kind of a workaround for this? | 20:11 |
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khem | you need -lgcc_s | 20:14 |
khem | and order of -lgcc also matters on linker cmdline | 20:15 |
khem | specify it last for best results | 20:15 |
xp190 | much appreciated, I'll try it now and see | 20:15 |
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xp190 | Thank you khem, that worked! is the use of libgcc_s documented anywhere? | 20:25 |
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khem | look into gcc docs | 20:40 |
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