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Marex | thunders: vivante binary crap broke, ask freescale for help ;) | 02:39 |
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reibax | Good morning everyone! reibax here, from Spain | 06:47 |
reibax | anyone up yet over here? | 06:47 |
reibax | I need a little bit of help understanding sysroot handling in Yocto 2.1 Krogoth | 06:50 |
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reibax | Good morning everyone! reibax here, from Spain | 07:10 |
reibax | anyone up yet over here? | 07:10 |
reibax | I need a little bit of help understanding sysroot handling in Yocto 2.1 Krogoth | 07:10 |
reibax | how would be the right way to force a directory to be copied to the target sysroot? | 07:11 |
reibax | *how=what | 07:11 |
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nrossi | reibax: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-SYSROOT_DIRS | 07:18 |
reibax | Great nrossi!! Thank you very much! I will test that right away! | 07:19 |
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reibax | Wait... I think that is something new to 2.3 | 07:26 |
reibax | it's not available in 2.2 | 07:26 |
reibax | I mean | 07:26 |
reibax | new to 2.2 | 07:26 |
reibax | not available in 2.1 | 07:26 |
reibax | I should maybe use an append for do_populate_sysroot then? | 07:27 |
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nrossi | python sysroot_stage_all () { oe.path.copytree(d.expand("<source>"), d.expand("${SYSROOT_DESTDIR}<foo>")) } | 07:29 |
nrossi | is the way i have done it in the past | 07:29 |
nrossi | thought you will need _append if you are adding additional sysroot content. | 07:30 |
reibax | great, I will try that. Thank you very much! | 07:30 |
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aV_V | Good morning | 08:51 |
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reibax | Good morning aV_V | 09:04 |
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aV_V | I don't understand why I have generated an nativesdk- package for everything | 09:09 |
aV_V | like nativesdk-openssl, nativesdk-opkg... | 09:10 |
yann | quite surprisingly, the openal-soft recipe (meta-openembedded/meta-multimedia/) does not put any lib stuff in packages here... | 09:12 |
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binarym | does anyone know about a recipe using npm-install so that i can use it as an example ? | 09:49 |
binarym | i retrieved the nodejs and nodejs nodejs-contrib meta | 09:50 |
LetoThe2nd | binarym: what do you mean by "using npm-install"? | 09:52 |
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binarym | LetoThe2nd: do you know npm and node.js ecosystme ? | 09:57 |
binarym | most of node packages are installed using npm: node package manager | 09:57 |
LetoThe2nd | binarym: i do know that. so you are looking for a recipe that gives you an example for something that usually gets pulled through npm using the install command, right? | 09:58 |
binarym | yep | 09:58 |
binarym | right | 09:58 |
binarym | :) | 09:58 |
LetoThe2nd | binarym: here you are: https://github.com/imyller/meta-nodejs-contrib/blob/master/recipes-extended/forever/forever_0.15.3.bb | 09:59 |
LetoThe2nd | binarym: please note that it is inherit allarch, which will work only for pure-js packages. | 09:59 |
binarym | oki, looks like a good pointer to begin with, thanks a lot LetoThe2nd | 10:00 |
LetoThe2nd | binarym: and please note furthermore that this is a very generic approach, which results in a lot of bloat. | 10:00 |
binarym | yep | 10:00 |
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binarym | i found this one too http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-intel-iot-middleware/tree/recipes-devtools/xdk-daemon/xdk-daemon_0.0.37.bb?h=master | 10:00 |
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binarym | but i don't like the way it calls npm directly | 10:00 |
bluelightning | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/TipsAndTricks/NPM | 10:00 |
LetoThe2nd | that xdk hting looks ugly. | 10:01 |
binarym | bluelightning: shouldn't we use oe_npm or something like that ? | 10:01 |
LetoThe2nd | bluelightning: interesting | 10:02 |
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aV_V | Can I check what packages will be generated before building a recipe? | 11:54 |
Robbin_Parrish | Hello all, I am trying to build my custom core-minimal-image using yocto (poky-morty-16.0.0). In this I have added my meta layer that have a fragmented kernel configuration file. I have also created a "recipes-kernel/linux-yocto_%.bbappend" and inside that I have mentioned the "SRC_URI" to that fragmented configuration file. | 11:55 |
Robbin_Parrish | When I run "bitbake core-image-minimal" and in the final image when I inspect the "/proc/config.gz" the all kernel parameters are not being configured in it. How can I add my custom kernel configurations in the yocto build. | 11:55 |
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Robbin_Parrish | A little help or pointer will be very helpfull. I have added couple of updates/fixes but none of work for me. | 12:01 |
LetoThe2nd | Robbin_Parrish: not having experience with config fragments myself i can only give some rough ideas... but have you checked that your append actually gets triggered? | 12:02 |
LetoThe2nd | for one there ist bitbake -e, and there is also something that shows all appends, just don't remember at the moment | 12:03 |
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Robbin_Parrish | LetoThe2nd: Thankyou very much for the reply. I really appreciate it. And yes I have ran the "bitbake show-appends" and its shows me my custom appended file. Even some configuration kernel variables are shows in the "/proc/config.gz" but some doesnt. I have also monitored the ".config" and ".config.old" file from the "${B}" build directory during the image build and the ".config" files doent shows that variables in it but t | 12:07 |
LetoThe2nd | no idea then, sorry - we're just using monolithic configurations here :) | 12:08 |
-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #390 of nightly-checkuri is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-checkuri/builds/390 | 12:09 | |
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Robbin_Parrish | LetoThe2nd: Ok no problem. I will keep debugging it untill I make it work. Hoping I will get some help around here from the Gurus. | 12:13 |
Robbin_Parrish | LetoThe2nd: Thanks again. | 12:13 |
LetoThe2nd | good luck | 12:13 |
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nrossi | Robbin_Parrish: Have a look at an existing layer that appends configs, http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-virtualization/tree/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_4.8.bbappend | 12:16 |
eduardas_m | hello, might be off-topic, but: is evdevtouch good on qt 5.5 with single touch resistive touchscreen? | 12:19 |
eduardas_m | or I should only use tslib? | 12:20 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: Thanks for the reply. FYI I am only using ".cfg" and not the ".scc" file as features. I did also tried with features file but it too didnt work. | 12:21 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: Does that mean I should also include my ".cfg" file to the "KERNEL_FEATURES_append "? | 12:22 |
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nrossi | Robbin_Parrish: no, SRC_URI. Did you check the .meta logs to see if your configs are just conflicted and just not being enabled cause of config deps. Have a look in "tmp-glibc/work-shared/<machine-name>/linux-yocto/<version>/linux-<machine>-standard-build/kernel-source/.meta/cfg" | 12:24 |
nrossi | mismatch-all.txt is generally useful. | 12:25 |
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Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: FYI the path is being shows as "tmp/work-shared/qemux86/kernel-source/.kernel-meta/cfg/" and here my custom configuration file looks like missing. Let me check the "mismatch-all.txt" file. | 12:28 |
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nrossi | thats fine, the one i linked i just a symlink to the shared one | 12:29 |
nrossi | the merge_config... file will also be useful, it will tell you if your .cfg file is being processed | 12:29 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: I have checked the "mismatch-all.txt" file and it shows me my custom configuration file. The path reflect to "tmp/work-shared/qemux86/kernel-source/.kernel-meta/configs/standard/". Is it normal? Let me open the "merge_config" .. | 12:32 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: this above path shows me my custom configuration file and its there with all the parameters. | 12:33 |
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eduardas_m | my main problem is as follows: how do I invert y axis for a qt 5.5 app that uses tslib? | 12:36 |
nrossi | Robbin_Parrish: If you have entries in the mismatch-all.txt file, this means there are issues with setting the configs you want set. | 12:36 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: the both build and audit logfile shows me my custom configurations being merged to the kernel. If it is then why the couple of other parameters are not being merged correctly? | 12:36 |
nrossi | Robbin_Parrish: Post your merge_config_audit.log and mismatch-all.txt so we can see what is going wrong | 12:39 |
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Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: FYI looking back to the "mismatch.txt" its shows the same value being applied by the two or more configuration files from the features files, its shows like "Requested value" and "Actual value:" | 12:42 |
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nrossi | Robbin_Parrish: Yep, its listing all the configs that were requested by don't appear in the .config, and showing the difference | 12:43 |
Robbin_Parrish | nrossi: its shows that couple of my custom configurations parameters as "is redefined by fragment" for my file. | 12:43 |
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eduardas_m | It would be useful to hear how other people manage their build folders. It takes me quite a while to delete my old ones when I get short on disk space. | 14:12 |
rburton | use rm_work if you find yourself running out of space, and getting a new disk isn't an option | 14:12 |
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rburton | and putting the build dir on a separate partition means you can delete them with a mkfs | 14:13 |
eduardas_m | What are recommended HDD sizes for work? | 14:13 |
rburton | well depends on what youre building | 14:13 |
rburton | if you build qt5 and webkit and chromum, then a lot more than a console based system | 14:13 |
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rburton | i have a 2tb work disk | 14:14 |
eduardas_m | I use a 1 TB HDD. I build qt5, but not chromium. | 14:14 |
rburton | but many people just use a 30gb tmpfs and rm_work | 14:14 |
eduardas_m | 30 GB tmpfs? | 14:14 |
eduardas_m | I am still learning linux stuff in general so I am not really sure what you mean. Could you elaborate? | 14:16 |
rburton | create a tmpfs somewhere with a nice large size, assuming you have plenty of ram | 14:17 |
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eduardas_m | oh, so you mean a ramdisk | 14:18 |
JoiF | Yes, except the filesystem itself is called tmpfs today on Linux | 14:20 |
eduardas_m | rburton, JoiF understood, thank you | 14:22 |
JoiF | Or.. the new implementation is called tmpfs | 14:22 |
JoiF | The main difference being that tmpfs allows you to put size constraints while ramdisk didn't; it grew until you ran out of RAM | 14:22 |
eduardas_m | anyone using SSDs for their builds? would one get severe disk wear this way? | 14:22 |
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JoiF | s/ramdisk/ramfs | 14:23 |
reibax | I guess it depends on how frequently you are planning to do builds | 14:23 |
reibax | but the build process in general is pretty hard on reads/writes | 14:23 |
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neverpanic | I guess it also depends on which SSDs you choose | 14:23 |
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JoiF | All of this might also depend on how you manage your expectations.. ;) | 14:24 |
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neverpanic | But yes, we're using SSDs in all our build slaves and in most developer build machines, too, and we're doing multiple builds a day on developer machines and tens of builds on the buildslaves every day | 14:24 |
JoiF | I'm happy with my speed building Yocto on an regular spinning-cylinder hdd | 14:24 |
eduardas_m | but to have a 30 GB tmpfs I actually need to have more than 32 GB of RAM on my machine, I presume? | 14:25 |
neverpanic | SSDs provide quite a speed boost for Yocto builds when compared to an HDD | 14:25 |
neverpanic | eduardas_m: yes | 14:25 |
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RP | neverpanic: depends how much RAM you have ;-) | 14:26 |
JoiF | tmpfs can do swapping, but then it becomes absolutely pointless to use it in the first place. ;) | 14:26 |
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eduardas_m | neverpanic, I currently only have 16 GB RAM :( | 14:27 |
graphiqs | how much ram does it need though? what is "enough"? | 14:27 |
neverpanic | My rule of thumb is 2G per core. Plus whatever you want to put in a ramdisk, of course. | 14:29 |
RP | neverpanic: I have core-image-sato building with my branch now btw | 14:30 |
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LetoThe2nd | my rule of thumb is: get as much ram as possible in any way. | 14:32 |
JoiF | But this is actually quite interesting. Perhaps I shouldn't settle for doing my builds with on the HDD anymore. | 14:33 |
rburton | ive a hdd, its fine. lots of ram is always good | 14:33 |
graphiqs | hmmm... is 64gb enough to house yocto+compilind? | 14:33 |
neverpanic | RP: Nice! | 14:33 |
JoiF | I actually have a 512GB SSD via NVMe in my PC, but I'm not using it. Like.. at all. It's not even mounted. | 14:33 |
RP | JoiF: My point is that its complicated. If you have enough ram, hdd verses ssd is much less of a win | 14:33 |
neverpanic | RP: Was my stuff useful at all? It seemed like you had most of the stuff figured out already. | 14:34 |
JoiF | Yeah. I got 32GB of ram | 14:34 |
RP | We block sync calls during the build so we never really flush much to the disk if the disk cache is big enough | 14:34 |
LetoThe2nd | JoiF: once you really have enough ram, the discussion is moot. caching will kick in so heavily that the storage backend literally has no effect anymore. | 14:34 |
RP | neverpanic: it was a useful sanity check, its interesting that we ended up with roughly the same approach | 14:34 |
RP | neverpanic: my branch isn't without its issues, I need to write up something for the mailing list about that | 14:35 |
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LetoThe2nd | graphiqs: depends - a console only image with busybox only will probably live happily in 64GB | 14:37 |
graphiqs | nah, thinking about x11 + qt5 stuff | 14:43 |
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graphiqs | anyone else here had issues with "imx-gpu-viv" before? | 14:50 |
mario-goulart | RP: about blocking sync calls, how does that work? We've been hitting the problem mentioned in http://blog.ronnyegner-consulting.de/2011/10/13/info-task-blocked-for-more-than-120-seconds/ . I was assuming it was related to sync'ing, but maybe I'm wrong. | 14:51 |
RP | mario-goulart: pseudo intercepts and drops them | 14:52 |
mario-goulart | ah, ok. | 14:52 |
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RP | mario-goulart: there is pretty much never a case where we need a sync call in a build | 14:53 |
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mario-goulart | RP: indeed | 14:54 |
aV_V | If I would want to append QtSerialBus module to the Qt SDK, should I added on TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK, TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK or both? | 14:54 |
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aV_V | is it right to append packagegroups recipes? | 15:17 |
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neverpanic | Depends on what you're trying to do, but it's a valid use-case, yes | 15:23 |
kergoth | you should be careful not to overload its purpose, however. i.e. base should stay base | 15:25 |
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aV_V | I only want to add a package | 15:26 |
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aV_V | like this: RDEPENDS_${PN} += "package" | 15:27 |
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kergoth | it really depends on what you're adding and why, whether it's the best approach or not | 15:31 |
kergoth | like neverpanic said, depends on what you're trying to do :) | 15:32 |
aV_V | I tried, it seems to work :S | 15:32 |
aV_V | no issues | 15:32 |
aV_V | as I said before, I'm trying to append QtSerialBus module to the sdk, because by default it isnt there | 15:33 |
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kergoth | that doesnt' seem unreasonable | 15:35 |
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aV_V | nice | 15:37 |
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RP | kergoth: I'm curious if you've noticed the performance issue I've mentioned on the bitbake list (and sent a patch for) | 15:53 |
RP | kergoth: I'm struggling to figure out what exactly is triggering it... | 15:53 |
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lamego | halstead: Hi, Any estimated time for the OE-patchwork git-hook to be in place? Will a commit be needed to have a first sync? | 16:58 |
halstead | lamego, Should be today. | 16:58 |
halstead | lamego, Do you need it updating the staging pw as well? | 16:59 |
lamego | halstead: No. We have access to the staging-pw, where we actually test changes before pushing to prod. | 17:00 |
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Circuitsoft | I need to bisect my kernel. I'm using linux-yocto-4.4 with a custom config, but no patches. How can I keep bitbake from resetting the git checkout state? | 17:02 |
CTtpollard | you can force compile | 17:03 |
Circuitsoft | Will building core-image-mydevice use the kernel source state? | 17:09 |
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CTtpollard | force compile the kernel, then bitbake your image | 17:15 |
halstead | lamego, The hook isn't working yet but I just updated to production HEAD. | 17:15 |
Circuitsoft | Ok | 17:15 |
CTtpollard | There's probably a cleaner way, that's how I do it though | 17:15 |
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lamego | halstead: Cool. So most likely the hook will be ready for next commit, right? (expected by mid-week, maybe) | 17:17 |
halstead | lamego, Yes. | 17:17 |
lamego | halstead: thanks! | 17:18 |
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halstead | lamego, We may hit some trouble the first time though. Ping me for testing when the time comes. | 17:19 |
lamego | halstead: Got it. I'll ping you. | 17:19 |
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tlwoerner | looking for a python expert... classes/linux-raspberrypi-base.bbclass in meta-raspberrypi is trying to figure out the version of kernel being used | 17:46 |
tlwoerner | i'm trying to apply the rt patch to the kernel, so the min_ver is coming out "32-rt43" instead of "32" | 17:46 |
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tlwoerner | min_ver is being defined on line 18 http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-raspberrypi/tree/classes/linux-raspberrypi-base.bbclass | 17:47 |
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tlwoerner | how do i get the ver.split() function to ignore the "-rt43"? | 17:48 |
binarym | tlwoerner: create your own .bbclass that would implement the get_dts() and split_overlays() functions and do what you want on it | 17:50 |
binarym | i think this is the cleanest way | 17:50 |
binarym | but i'm a newbie here | 17:50 |
binarym | so i may be wrong | 17:50 |
neverpanic | tlwoerner: re.split(r'[.-]+', '4.2.3-rt34', maxsplit=3) maybe? | 17:52 |
tlwoerner | binarym: i think it would be idea if the same bbclass could handle both rt and non-rt kernels | 17:55 |
tlwoerner | neverpanic: nice, i think that'll work | 17:55 |
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tlwoerner | neverpanic: yes, that works. thanks! | 19:04 |
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kergoth | bluelightning: thoughts on adding an argument to newappend to create the new append in a layer-specific area based on the layer the recipe file is in? would have to warn if the bblayers doesn't include those paths, though | 19:48 |
kergoth | seems to be a fairly common convention, now | 19:48 |
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bluelightning | kergoth: sounds like a reasonable feature yes | 19:58 |
kergoth | k, thanks, will add to my list | 19:59 |
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kergoth | hmm, poky.conf could probably still use a bit of paring down / breaking up | 20:31 |
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kergoth | the MIRRORS change in poky.conf is redundant, those are already in mirrors.bbclass. PREMIRRORS is fine | 20:35 |
rburton | kergoth: chop chop patches welcome :) | 20:35 |
kergoth | mel is still using poky at the moment, need to switch back to oe-core, so was checking to see ho wmuch copying and pasting i'd need to do :) | 20:36 |
* kergoth makes a list | 20:37 | |
kergoth | rburton: think there'd be interest in submitting something along the lines of ptest but for examples/samples/demos? add packageconfigs, distro feature, separate package, and consistent paths on disk? | 20:37 |
kergoth | right now they're a bit all over the place | 20:38 |
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bluelightning | FYI I have a patch to tidy up that bit of poky.conf | 20:51 |
bluelightning | I should really get around to sending it... | 20:51 |
bluelightning | I'm getting as bad as rburton ;) | 20:51 |
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bluelightning | here's the status/background for tinfoil2, in case anyone's interested: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Tinfoil2 | 21:16 |
bluelightning | (yes, I'll be updating bug 5470 when I have pushed my latest branch) | 21:16 |
yocti | Bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5470 normal, High, 2.3 M2, anibal.limon, IN PROGRESS IMPLEMENTATION , bitbake-layers cannot be used with memory resident bitbake running | 21:16 |
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fmeerkoetter | can someone point out to me where i can find an explanation of all the different kinds of assignment operators found in bitbake (+=,:=?=,??=,=,..)? | 21:32 |
bluelightning | fmeerkoetter: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html | 21:35 |
bluelightning | fmeerkoetter: specifically http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#basic-syntax | 21:35 |
rburton | bluelightning: haha | 21:35 |
fmeerkoetter | bluelightning: thanks. looks obvious now :-) | 21:36 |
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