Monday, 2016-12-12

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steven2I'm trying to get a ralink wifi dongle working.  I added linux-firmware-ralink, what else do I need to do.  lsusb shows the device, lsmod shows rt2800usb and rt2800lib, but iwconfig shows no interfaces.03:33
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steven2also /lib/firmware contains rt2860.bin, rt2870.bin03:34
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bluelightningsteven2: anything interesting in dmesg?03:35
steven2When I hot-plug the device I see this "PM: am33xx_prepare_push_sram_idle: EMIF function copy failed" which is the only thing I see that looks odd03:36
steven2I'm not sure what that means03:36
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steven2I'm using the ti kernel tree on a am335x board03:36
bluelightningnor am I. but it doesn't sound especially good03:37
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steven2Found this in dmesg also, not sure if it is releated:   "Direct firmware load for am335x-pm-firmware.elf failed with error -2"03:52
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deepwaterI'm trying to understand how/why I might use toaster... is it just an attempt at building a gui over oe04:03
deepwaterIt doesn't seem to add anything.04:04
steven2@deepwater, it struck me as a tool for exploring recipes for beginners and not a very practical tool for most workflows04:08
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steven2@bluelighting, looks like my device is not recognized because it's not an alias for it in modinfo04:09
steven2several devices for the same vendor, just not this particular part04:09
deepwater@steven2; I wasn't sure if toaster was widely used by others. I'm struggling with how I can make use of it04:13
deepwater@steven2, I was kinda hoping I could use toaster for nightly builds, and releases.04:15
steven2I played with it for about half an hour and decided it wasn't what I was looking for, but ymmv04:16
deepwaterWell thanks for another opinion, I figured I must have been doing something wrong.04:17
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #1033 of nightly-x86-64-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at
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c0rneli'm trying to build a project that needs ~ 50 GB of disk space07:16
c0rnelon centos 7 with the default xfs07:16
c0rneland i get: WatchManagerError: add_watch: cannot watch /home/cornel/Downloads/test2/meta-openembedded/meta-networking/recipes-support/tcpdump WD=-1, Errno=No space left on device (ENOSPC)07:17
c0rnelbut i have 164 GB frree according to df -h07:17
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c0rnel/dev/mapper/centos-home on /home type xfs (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,inode64,noquota)07:18
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c0rnelis there a known issue with xfs on centos 7?07:19
bluelightningc0rnel: could perhaps be that you ran out of inodes?07:22
c0rnelbluelightning, could be this:
bluelightningcould be yes07:23
c0rnelbluelightning, if this is confirmed, then maybe the Yocto documentation should say it, if it says Centos is supported07:25
c0rnelbut let me re-test this, after mount -o remount07:26
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bluelightningc0rnel: this would be specific to the XFS filesystem though07:27
c0rnelbluelightning, exactly07:27
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bluelightningright but what I'm getting at is not everyone who is using CentOS will be using XFS07:28
c0rneli mean, if there's a known limitation, then it's better to know it before you install centos with default options :)07:28
LetoThe2ndbluelightning: yeah. we would need similar help for people running into metadata issues with btrfs, those who run into out-of-inodes on ext4...07:28
LetoThe2ndthose who run into casesensitivity on hfs07:28
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, all this problems ar known but not documented?07:28
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: what i'm saying is that filesystem specific problems are well, filesystem specific. i think its not the responsibility of any application that basically just wants to store data to document all the quirks there.07:29
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, i understand this07:30
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: do you think microsoft word comes with documentation on ntfs limitations?07:30
c0rnelstill i think a known limitations page referenced would help a lot of guys trying to create a yocto build07:30
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, i would not definitely compare yocto comunity with microsoft 'support'07:30
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: once the application really makes use of fs specifics, like docker using btrfs subvolumes or snapshots, then documentation is due. once the application only relies on the fs to provide reliable storage, its the fs documentation duty.07:31
c0rneli don't disagree. LetoThe2nd07:31
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: so i'd rather say the centos guys should document that drawback on their default options ;-)07:32
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, i agree with this also07:32
LetoThe2ndso much agreement on a monday morning, wow07:32
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c0rnelLetoThe2nd, i will retest and create a ticket on centos side if the xfs problem is confirmed07:34
c0rnelunfortunately this means i have to reboot, bitbake seems usntoppable even after many ^C lines07:34
c0rnelthank you for supprot07:36
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LetoThe2ndbluelightning: OTOH, i think it might make sense to have some kind of "storage selection" guide on the OE wiki. the recurring question of ram/ssd/hdd could go there too, and in that context a like to this might be sensible. what do you think?07:36
bluelightningLetoThe2nd: that sounds like a great idea07:37
bluelightningthere are tuning parameters that should help performance that could be documented there as well07:38
LetoThe2ndbluelightning: let me see if i can find enough caffeine.... erm, time to do that.07:38
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* LetoThe2nd thinks he successfully came across as the grumpy old "other peoples problems" guy :-)07:39
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cornelfrom time to time i have this problem: a package that was already builded is trying to build again and it fails08:42
cornelcan i configure yocto to check if the package was already built and if yes, to do a cleanall package first?08:43
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c0rnelhello again08:49
c0rneli try same buid on ext4 partition and again i get no space left on device08:50
c0rneli also have space there08:50
c0rnelcould it be a /tmp problem wrongly reported?08:50
c0rnelor maybe it's stil using files from $HOME (which is xfs)?08:51
c0rneli also have inodes08:52
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mckoangood morning08:54
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LetoThe2ndc0rnel: this is a real hard drive, and not inside a vm? like the container hd is full, but vm hd not?09:12
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, real seagate constellation hard disk09:12
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LetoThe2ndc0rnel: well if there is space and inodes free then i'd guess that some path still points to a place that you do not expect09:13
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, ok, how can i find out what is that path? the error only points to the build parent directory09:14
c0rnelas reported before09:14
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LetoThe2ndc0rnel: what does err out? a download? a build?09:15
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c0rnelLetoThe2nd, let me look deeper into the log file09:15
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c0rnelLetoThe2nd, pfff, i don't see in the log who's complaining09:17
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c0rnelmaybe it's the toplevel process, bitbake09:17
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: that makes it hard to give advice....09:17
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c0rnelsure, i've seen also something else: ERROR: No space left on device or exceeds fs.inotify.max_user_watches?09:18
c0rnellet me check this first09:18
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: if in doubt, pastebin the failing build log09:19
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c0rnelthank you LetoThe2nd let me check what i get from this additional info09:22
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c0rnelLetoThe2nd, fs.inotify.max_user_watches is 8192. should this value be increased?09:24
* c0rnel is searching the internet for this info09:25
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LetoThe2ndc0rnel: no idea, i've never had that error09:30
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c0rnelLetoThe2nd, it seems this is not the problem09:35
c0rnelexactly same value it has on a machine that builds fine09:35
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LetoThe2ndc0rnel: no idea, sorry. this really a totally vanilla box, no docker,lxc,vbox, wahtever involved? any limits on ram/cpu? all filesystems have free space?09:45
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, fresh ventos 7 install, 16 GB RAM, core i7 processor09:46
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, real machine, not a virtual one09:47
c0rnel /tmp is a little slow, imo: 1.6 GB total09:48
LetoThe2ndc0rnel: hm09:48
c0rnelLetoThe2nd, actually not /tmp, but /run/user/100009:49
c0rnelsorry, i misread the log09:49
c0rnel^about /tmp^09:50
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nrossic0rnel: Whats /run/media/cornel mounted as?09:51
c0rnel$ mount | grep media09:52
c0rnel/dev/mapper/fedora-home on /run/media/cornel/22503de9-da5f-4596-ae81-5bee85b92f1d type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)09:52
c0rnelnrossi, ^09:52
c0rnelbut why /tmp is not tmpfs, i wonder ?09:52
nrossic0rnel: Is "22503de9-da5f-4596-ae81-5bee85b92f1d" your build disk?09:53
c0rnelnrossi, yes09:53
nrossi"/run/media" is not tmp just fyi09:53
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c0rnelnrossi, yes, i know09:53
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nrossic0rnel: have you got two disks/partitions, / and /home? and is /tmp on / or remapped?09:56
c0rnelnrossi, yes, / and /home09:57
c0rnelnrossi, /tmp is on /09:57
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nrossic0rnel: and so "df -h /" shows a decent amount of free space?09:58
c0rnelnrossi, 47G free space09:58
c0rnel161G on /home09:59
c0rnel136G on media09:59
nrossic0rnel: Given the inotify message, what is your system setup for "cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches"10:00
cornelbut let me recheck10:01
nrossic0rnel, cornel: that sounds low?10:01
c0rnelyep, 819210:01
c0rnelnrossi, it's the same on other machines where the build works fine10:02
c0rneland other operating systems10:02
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nrossic0rnel: Hmmm, well it might be too low for this specific build/task execution. Try setting it much higher. "sudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_watches=524288" which is what my build machine has set.10:03
deepwateryep my machine has 524288 also10:04
c0rneltahnk you nrossi10:05
c0rneli will reboot now because i hate manually killing python processes10:05
c0rneli'll report back in about 30 minutes, hopefully10:05
deepwaterodd my build machine at work has 8192?10:05
nrossic0rnel: sysctl doesn't persist over reboot, so make sure to re-exec10:05
c0rnelnrossi, i see10:05
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c0rnelwhat about systctl -n -w ?10:06
nrossideepwater: Yer not sure tbh, could just be and spike due to specific ordering of files/tasks10:06
c0rnelsee you later10:07
deepwaterit's worth a try I guess10:07
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c0rnelthe build seems to have actually started, now10:27
c0rnelmaybe it's somehow related to the older linux used (3.10)10:27
c0rnelmaybe scheduler is different, or whatever10:28
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c0rnelnrossi, thank you very much10:34
c0rnelfor now things seem to work10:34
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eikichianyone working withe meta-freescale?10:35
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LetoThe2ndeikichi: probably - but usually its way more promising to state your *actual* question and the wait for rescue :)10:37
eikichiI don't have question about this10:38
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LetoThe2ndeikichi: then the answer is "yes"10:38
eikichiexcept that there is no LICENCE so it doens't compile XD10:38
eikichito be serious10:39
eikichithe meta-freescale repository has moved a lot recently10:39
eikichimeta-freescale is a new repository, I used to use meta-fsl-arm10:39
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eikichibut I simply cannot move forward to it as Yocto checks for LICENCE that doesn't exist10:40
LetoThe2ndeikichi: file an issue, then?10:41
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eikichiwhat are those LICENCES for=10:42
eikichithis is pretty annoying10:42
LetoThe2ndeikichi: i guess you are referring to some specific recipe inside the layer?10:42
LetoThe2ndeikichi: and licence files are there, well, to define the license of the several parts of code in use. they might be annoying to some, but for other they are absolutely crucial.10:43
eikichithis is the packagegroup-fsl-gstreamer1.0-full10:45
mckoaneikichi: meta-freescale repository is for morty10:45
eikichiolder meta-fsl-* repositories disapeared10:46
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eikichithanks, I'll stay on it10:58
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eduardas_mhello, does anyone have experience with embedded Android... how does it compare to Yocto/OE?12:52
eduardas_mfor what I've heard and read, it seems more limited, but my management thinks it could leverage the abundance of Java developers this way12:54
rburtonsounds like a fair assessment12:55
rburtonyou'll be running on the android userspace so you're entirely at google's whim12:55
JoiFInitial board bringu-up will probably be more difficult/time consuming. But yes, there are lots more "app" people than "embedded sw engineers"12:55
eduardas_malso, I find there is less choice in terms of small SoMs that run proper embedded Android out of the box12:56
eduardas_mactually the Variscite Snapdraon one is the only one I am aware of12:57
eduardas_malso, has anyone tried Android Brillo13:00
eduardas_mas far as I understand its headless Android that basically drops the VM...13:01
JoiFIf you're going for SoMs, you should take a look at SMARC and/or Qseven (
eduardas_mJoiF, thanks...was actually not aware of those13:02
eduardas_mI actually keep a list of SoM vendors and embedded linux consulting companies just in case :)13:03
JoiFShould help you avoid vendor lock-in13:03
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eduardas_mspeaking of SoMs, I would actually prefer to put in work into our own board bring-up and BSP, but time to market is a pain as always13:04
JoiFI believe they're trying to make a standardized interface, similar to what PC-104 used to be13:04
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LetoThe2ndJoiF: there are many standard.13:05
JoiFOf course there are  ;)
eduardas_mthe problem is that I need the really small ones... like the DART6UL from Variscite13:05
eduardas_mand few Vendors make stuff in such a form factor13:06
JoiFSounds like you need to roll your own, then  :)13:06
eduardas_mhandheld devices have very little space... if they'd let me stuff a Raspberry Pi inside them, I probably would :)13:07
JoiFSounds like there's some requirements management missing there  :)13:08
jkurburton: I could resend the piglit-compress-tests branch for M1 ... I guess I'll add RDEPENDS on tar based on previous discussion on ML13:09
JoiFList you you requirements formally, try: look for SoM (if applicable), purchase SoM, release_to_production. except NoSoMFoundError: roll_your_own.  ;)13:09
rburtonjku: oh yes, please13:11
JoiFThe process where I work is much simpler actually: We always roll our own.  ;)13:11
LetoThe2ndif you only need to roll your som, thats ok.13:13
LetoThe2ndrolling a soc, on the other hand....13:13
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eduardas_mLetoThe2nd, I hope I live to see the day of desktop semiconductor manufacturing13:15
LetoThe2ndeduardas_m: we will see the day of no more desktop computing after all, except for special/professional reasons13:16
eduardas_mLetoThe2nd, year of the Linux desktop... the year when only greybreads use PCs...lol13:18
eduardas_msry, greybeards :)13:18
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LetoThe2ndnothing bad with greybread using linux.13:20
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Strike5150Hello, am I correct in assuming the genericx86 build is not capable of finding a rootfs on many boards, and I need to add a BSP for the architecture?14:13
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LetoThe2ndStrike5150: it is not the genericx86 *machine* thats "not working" in that context, its in most cases the image type14:28
LetoThe2ndStrike5150: a bootable cd image should be fine basically.14:28
jstashlukabelloni: did you ever find a nice way to make an am335x sd card image? preferably without root perms?14:28
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rburtonStrike5150: i'd recommend not using genericx86 but something like meta-intel, if its compatible with your HW14:32
LetoThe2ndrburton: thats the better solution of course, but at least the ISO should boot14:36
rburtonagreed.  there's a readme that explains how messed up x86 booting is14:37
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rburtonyou might need to faff about and make a usb stick that pretends to be a floppy disk14:37
LetoThe2ndreally, one did manage to document all the bootup mess in *ONE* readme?14:38
rburtonwell, there's a readme that says if nothing works, how to make a bootable usb stick that works differently14:38
neverpanicMaybe, if it's 64-bit boot from EFI :-P14:38
Strike5150Yea I'm basically at the point where it just can't find any disks that contain a rootfs, looking at meta-intel now and some of the wic scripts which I don't understand their purpose yet lol14:40
Strike5150Ultimate goal is an image which boots on a single board computer with a super io chip and intel core14:41
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rburtonStrike5150: for everything i have, hddimg works to boot off usb14:47
rburtonthat's lame for production of course as its ext4 in a fat14:47
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Strike5150Yea, I tried the hddimg and it booted into u-boot and the kernel is ok, but it can't find the cf card slot14:49
Strike5150CF card sucks but its what I have to work with hehe14:50
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Strike5150rburton: Why is ext4 on fat crap for production, just curious in what direction your thinking is going here.14:56
georgemStrike5150: see if you can find a block diagram for the hardware to see how the CF card slot is connected and make sure the kernel is built with the driver config options required to support the hardware. You can add a bbappend to linux-yocto which adds a .cfg file containing the missing config options to SRC_URI.14:57
Strike5150georgem:  Right forgot to check those options, thanks14:58
rburtonStrike5150: because fat has a file size limit and going through a ext4 image on a fat partition is nonsense14:58
rburtonStrike5150: hddimg just does that for the live booting magic14:59
Strike5150rburton: ahh yes ok ofcourse makes sense14:59
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abellonijstashluk: yes, using wic15:01
abelloniit is working failry well15:01
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jstashlukabelloni: I've been messing around with wic. Do you happen to have an example .wks that gets the partitions right?15:38
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abellonijstashluk: sdimage-bootpart is working fine16:26
abellonidon't forget to set IMAGE_BOOT_FILES16:28
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khemjstashluk: wic works fine these days, try the samples in meta-yocto-bsp layer16:34
khemrburton: I have put together a glibc 2.25 upgrade, 2.25 is still pre-release but its coming out on Feb 1 (planned). Can you throw some AB cycles at it ?16:35
rburtonkhem: next few days are going to be frantic testing for hte m1 release, but we can throw it at the AB immediate after that16:35
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khemrburton: ok any timelines ?16:36
khemlike next week ?16:36
rburtonlater this week, hopefully16:36
khemrburton: and we should merge a pre-release into master early enough16:36
khemso we can fix fallouts16:36
khemI have sent a fontconfig fix16:37
khembut I am sure there will be more16:37
rburtonyour fix broke libxft :)16:37
rburtonas it changes API16:37
khemoh oh16:37
khemso this is not an issue which can be fixed surgicallu16:38
khemfontconfig has to break ABI I beleive they have done it in past to nothing new for that package16:38
rburtoni'd be a lot happpier merging patches that were backports for that though16:39
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khemthere are no backports yet16:42
khemI have sent a patch for fontconfig but I know it wont be applied as such16:43
khemhowever they now know the problem16:43
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khem2.25 has deprecated inclusion of sys/sysmacros.h by sys/types.h16:44
khemso this will result in some pain16:44
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khemrburton: how is gst 1.10 looking now ?16:45
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dumbhi guys , i would like to add altenative source . How do i do that . I gave SRC_URI=" https://a/b/c.tar.gz https://e/b/c.tar.gz"  .17:49
dumbbut it always fails since first URL is down17:49
kergoththat's what MIRRORS is for17:49
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kergothsee the yocto product documentation, search for MIRRORS17:50
dumbi did it , i couldn;t make out17:50
dumbhow to use ?17:50
dumbi saw your branch gdb-linaro url is no more valid17:50
dumb-SRC_URI = "${MMYY}/components/toolchain/gdb-linaro/gdb-${PV}-${RELEASE}.tar.bz2"17:51
kergoth has an example of the syntax — the syntax of PREMIRRORS (which are checked before the url in SRC_URI) is the same as that of MIRRORS (which are checked after the url in SRC_URI)17:52
kergothMIRRORS_append = " https://a/b/ https://e/b/ \n" woudl likely do, as would " https://.*/.* https://e/b \n"17:53
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kergothit's a search/replace. the url components matched by the first are replaced by the second17:53
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kergothusing regular expression patterns applied to each part of the url17:54
seebs"now you have two problems"17:55
dumbthanks kergoth , i will check .17:55
kergothseebs: :)17:56
kergothdumb: you can probably grep around the layers to find examples of recipes which use MIRRORS. there aren't many, but should be some. i've done so myself, usually to handle the case where upstream moves the current release into an 'old' subdirectory for example, so it stops working when a new release comes out17:56
moto-timoI set up mirrors on some perl recipes in meta-openembedded/meta-perl because CPAN was very flaky for a time17:57
dumbthanks . i add missing dot . that is how yocto knows both SRC_URI is for fetching same package.17:58
dumbI wanted to this in append file without modifying mainline17:59
kergothif you put multiple urls in SRC_URI,,it'll always fetch both17:59
kergothnot a mirror setup17:59
kergothif you needed extra sources rather than *alternative* sources, that would work17:59
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dumbcorrect . I will try few things , if that doesn't work . I will come back , thanks for your valuable input.18:00
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zgredeqHello all, quick question: why standard/base applies patches for ARM when building powerpc?18:25
zgredeq[ERROR]: Application of .kernel-meta//patches//arch/arm/v7-A15/ARM-LPAE-Invalidate-the-TLB-for-module-addresses-dur.patch failed.18:25
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zgredeqI have created my custom BSP layer using yocto-BSP. It's interesting to me why there are ARM patches that bitbake tries to apply - and obviously fails - when building for PowerPC platform.18:37
zgredeqDid I miss something too obvious to catch? :D18:37
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seebsHeads up, there's a handful of long-pending bug reports (capset, python 3, and pthread mutex locking on fork) for which people have submitted patches to pseudo.20:30
seebsThese are now all merged in master. I haven't rerun every test, or anything, but they're pretty straightforward patches.20:30
seebsOh, wait. I missed one.20:31
seebsokay, now the man page fix is in too. :)20:33
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zgredeqdo you know maybe something about this patch (ARM-LPAE-Invalidate-the-TLB-for-module-addresses-dur.patch) failing to apply?20:48
zgredeqor should I file a bug report?20:48
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zgredeqbug report filed:
yoctiBug 10792: major, Undecided, ---, saul.wold, NEW , ARM-LPAE-Invalidate-the-TLB-for-module-addresses-dur.patch fails to apply21:01
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paulgzgredeq, looking at that log, it has nothing to do with the ARM patch; it is trying to create you a custom branch by reapplying all 366 patches that are already on standard/base.21:26
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paulgwhatever you have in your custom machine doesn't have an association with a kernel branch.21:27
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paulglook at what happens if say you chose  beaglebone...21:27
paulgmeta-poky/conf/local.conf.sample:#MACHINE ?= "beaglebone"21:27
paulgthe above would then make use of  the defaults for that machine here:21:28
paulgeta-yocto-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_4.8.bbappend:KBRANCH_beaglebone = "standard/beaglebone"21:28
paulgmeta-yocto-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_4.8.bbappend:SRCREV_machine_beaglebone ?= "28beb2f59f00de16b2cbdda20e9076c29f55b75a"21:28
paulgmeta-yocto-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_4.8.bbappend:COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_beaglebone = "beaglebone"21:28
paulgmeta-yocto-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_4.8.bbappend:LINUX_VERSION_beaglebone = "4.8.10"21:28
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zgredeqHi paulg, thanks for answering. So basicaly, when yocto-bsp creates new BSP for me, there is a file called mycustombsp-standard.scc in recipes-kernel/linux/files21:33
zgredeqamong the lines are these ones:21:34
zgredeqinclude ktypes/standard/standard.scc nopatch   \   define KTYPE standard/base \  branch mycustommachine21:35
zgredeqbut as well there is a file called mycustommachine-tiny.scc21:36
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zgredeqinclude ktypes/tiny/tiny.scc  \ define KTYPE standard/base  \ branch mycustommachine21:37
zgredeqone directory up you will find .bbappend file21:37
zgredeqnow, compiling standard with nopatch left intact produced error for me in do_package_qa saying that there was no GNU_HASH in the ELF binary in linux kernel...21:38
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zgredeqremoving the "nopatch" fails the build, in the same way as selecting -tiny.scc instead of -standard.scc in .bbappend file21:38
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zgredeqeither way, am I missing anything obvious here?21:42
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paulgwell, it isn't clear to me how you are creating this BSP ; since you've already opened a bug, you probably want to put the exact steps there and not here in irc.21:50
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zgredeqok, will do21:52
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lolsbornIs there a way to have a list of packages to build for an opkg repository that aren't included in the dist image?22:20
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bluelightninglolsborn: yes - you could use EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS or a packagegroup recipe to do that22:46
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