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| ranchu | hi | 07:32 |
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| ranchu | in case I need to create additional partitions (empty partitions), where to start from ? I am begginer with yocto | 07:32 |
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| Ben__ | Hi guys is there anyone here using yocto with a raspberry ? I need some help in order to configure boot partition | 08:11 |
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| ranchu | I also need to understand how to create empty partitions with yocto. any idea ? | 08:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: you probably mean "how do i create arbitrary, possibly empty partitions in an openembedded-stly build, using the poky distribution" :-) | 08:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: in that case, your answer is: look at wic, and its corresponding configuration files. this is the tool that creates partitioned images out of the filesystems. | 08:37 |
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| ranchu | LetoThe2nd, thanks, I made some reading about wic. but I don't understand. is it used after the build and deplyment is done , on the target which was booted with our image ? | 08:43 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: no, it basically can take the created file/directory structure and turn it into a binary image. | 08:44 |
| ranchu | ok, | 08:45 |
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| rburton | a broken patch sneaked back into a branch that was running overnight on the AB | 09:33 |
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| Ben__ | anyone ? | 09:42 |
| nrossi | rburton: I saw your message from ~12h ago. Sent a v2 for the series which now applies cleanly to ross/mut and master. | 09:43 |
| rburton | thanks nrossi | 09:44 |
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| rburton | ed21: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-wic/builds/623/steps/CreateWicImages/logs/stdio <— did i pull something broke into ross/mut? | 09:53 |
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| ed2 | rburton: I'll try to find out. It looks familiar. | 09:55 |
| rburton | thanks | 09:56 |
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| svagionitis | hello, I have some issue with a recipe in the meta-security layer, is this the correct channel to ask or is there a specific channel for this layer? | 10:20 |
| binarym | svagionitis: try | 10:21 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #1055 of nightly-ppc-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-ppc-lsb/builds/1055 | 10:29 | |
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| zzeroo | Hi, I need some help. I've updated my yocot to the lastest git master. Now my custom kernel builds fail. Error is "kgit-s2q: not found" | 10:30 |
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| svagionitis | I have created a bug for the issue that I have, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11095, but to summarize here, I have some problem building the `tpm-tools` from the latest master branch of meta-security layer. It seems that it cannot locate properly the `libtspi.so` library from the `trousers` recipe. I would appreciate any help. | 10:31 |
| yocti | Bug 11095: normal, Undecided, ---, saul.wold, NEW , Error building tpm-tools v1.3.9 | 10:31 |
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| ed2 | JaMa: hi, can you try if variable expansion issue is fixed by this patch? https://gist.github.com/bartosh/b47575a869fc80dbc3995d114524540e | 10:37 |
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| rburton | zzeroo: you probably need a dependency on the recipe that provides that | 10:54 |
| Ramose | Seeing this ERROR: virtual/gettext required but not in DEPENDS for file /scratch/crash_fix_builsd/build/tmp/work/cortexa9hf-vfp-neon-mxl-linux-gnueabi/qtwebengine/5.6.2+gitAUTOINC+qtwebengine_4d61c01b71-r0/git/src/3rdparty/chromium/third_party/yasm/source/patched-yasm/configure.ac. | 10:57 |
| Ramose | while bitbake qtwebengine | 10:57 |
| rburton | sounds like you need to add virtual/gettext to DEPENDS :) | 10:59 |
| ed2 | rburton: what's the difference between using variable directly and using d.getVar, e.g. WKS_FULL_PATH = "${@wks_search('${WKS_FILES}'.split(), '${WKS_SEARCH_PATH}') or ''}" and WKS_FULL_PATH = "${@wks_search('${WKS_FILES}'.split(), d.getVar('WKS_SEARCH_PATH')) or ''}" | 10:59 |
| ed2 | rburton: looks like it's not fully expanded in first case. | 11:00 |
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| rburton | ed2: i'd be incredibly surprised if ${} expanded inside python bits, use d.getVar() | 11:00 |
| Ramose | rburton: May I know, how and where ? | 11:00 |
| itayo | hi guys. | 11:01 |
| ed2 | rburton: thanks. that's what I suspected. | 11:01 |
| itayo | just a little quick question: how do u change the opkg urls in during build? so it points on right server from beginning? | 11:02 |
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| ed2 | rburton: I can't reproduce that build failure on my setup. I'm using ross/mut branch. | 11:04 |
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| rburton | Ramose: in the qtwebengine recipe | 11:06 |
| rburton | ed2: hm fun. | 11:06 |
| rburton | itayo: what urls do you mean | 11:06 |
| Ramose | rburton: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24045900/ | 11:07 |
| ed2 | rburton: the commit id is different from what's shown on the ab build page though. Looks like you've changed the branch. | 11:10 |
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| Ramose | rburton: It worked , let me resume further | 11:10 |
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| rburton | ed2: i just dropped the ltp patch | 11:12 |
| rburton | no other changes | 11:12 |
| Maka_ | Hello! I'm trying to install some deb packages, i followed some example from this site: https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/2014-intel-cup-embedded-system-design-contest/topic/518037 | 11:13 |
| Maka_ | Sadly i seem te get an error that says it cant find anything in the feed, would anyone be able to help with this? | 11:13 |
| itayo | rburton: the ones that point to the package mirror | 11:15 |
| itayo | rburton: in the file.... | 11:15 |
| rburton | itayo: set PACKAGE_FEED_URLS | 11:16 |
| rburton | itayo: erm, _URIS even | 11:16 |
| itayo | PACKAGE_FEED_URIS in local.conf? | 11:16 |
| rburton | yes | 11:17 |
| itayo | rburton: thanks:) | 11:17 |
| Maka_ | And could i point PACKAGE_FEED_URIS to a local file? | 11:18 |
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| Maka_ | When added to the PACKAGE_FEED_URIS i get: Debian package install does not support BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS | 11:26 |
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| rburton | those are unrelated | 11:32 |
| rburton | (dpkg doesn't support bad recommendations, so you can't use it) | 11:32 |
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| rburton | ed2: tbh surprised WKS_FILES expands at all in your example | 11:42 |
| rburton | ed2: using d.getVar() for both might be better | 11:43 |
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| ed2 | rburton: it expands just fine. WKS_SEARCH_PATH also expands, but not recursively and fully. | 11:47 |
| rburton | i suspect the problem is the order of expansion | 11:47 |
| rburton | use getVar() to control when stuff happens | 11:47 |
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| JaMa | ed2: yes that helps | 11:53 |
| JaMa | I've also noticed yesterday that using different variable name in bblayers.conf also helps | 11:54 |
| JaMa | so the order of expansion mentioned by ross looks likely the cause | 11:54 |
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| ed2 | JaMa: I've sent a patch for review. | 11:56 |
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| Ramose | Qtwebengine is not getting compiled with qt5.5 but it gets compiled with qt5.6.2 ? | 12:10 |
| Ramose | Is there any reason for the same ? | 12:10 |
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| ranchu | hello | 12:12 |
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| ranchu | why does images are in "tmp" directpory ? I mean, why is it a temporary folder ? | 12:12 |
| ranchu | why does images are in "tmp" directpory ? I mean, why is it a temporary folder ? | 12:13 |
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| rburton | ranchu: no real reason. feel free to rename TMPDIR if you want. | 12:20 |
| ranchu | Thx! I mean is it erased every time I call bitbake again ? or is it that calling bitbake again is like rebuild (only thing that changed) ? | 12:21 |
| rburton | its only erased if you erase it | 12:22 |
| rburton | i guess the name tmp came from the fact that everything inside it is generated, ie you can delete it and re-run bitbake and it will just recompile everything | 12:23 |
| ranchu | only recompile (without downloading again) ? | 12:23 |
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| ranchu | I would please like to ask why we need cleansstate. Isn't bitbake <image> will checks all packages for any change in source/makefile ? | 12:25 |
| ranchu | I mean in repeated build with bitbake | 12:26 |
| kanavin_home | ranchu: most of the time yes, but sometimes you do need to force a clean build | 12:28 |
| maka_ | Hmm, does anyone know why i can't get past "Booting kernel" when booting a genericx86 iso from usb? | 12:29 |
| ranchu | ... I just encounter the same issue, maka_, I think maybe it's serial/stdout issue ? what do you use ? serial or display ? | 12:31 |
| maka_ | I selected the graphics boot | 12:31 |
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| maka_ | I made a few images now, and i keep getting the same thing, it instantly reboots when it hits "Booting kernel" | 12:32 |
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| ranchu | whaich board is it ? a custom board or evm ? | 12:32 |
| maka_ | Im trying to boot it from usb on a normal intel laptop | 12:32 |
| maka_ | It used to work fine, but suddenly it doesn't | 12:33 |
| maka_ | However the image does work in VirtualBox ._. | 12:34 |
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| ed2 | kanavin: any ideas why btrfs-tools-native is not buildable? bitbake btrfs-tools-native fails with ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'udev-native' | 12:38 |
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| rburton | because there's no udev-native provider | 12:40 |
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| rburton | there's a fix in mut :) | 12:40 |
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| ed2 | rburton: nice :) thank you | 12:45 |
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| jku | rburton: it sounds like both weston and mesa releases should happen next week... any preference for a) updates to RCs or b) sending late? | 12:47 |
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| rburton | jku: any idea how close the RCs are to releae? | 12:47 |
| rburton | are they "we'll be shipping this" or "patches piling up already" in git | 12:47 |
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| jku | my guess for weston is this week | 12:48 |
| jku | very close anyway | 12:48 |
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| jku | mesa, I'm not sure but eric engestrom estimated end of next week... | 12:51 |
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| jku | rburton: so maybe we decide on monday or so: weston might be out by then and the mesa 17.0.0 patches are ready so there's not much to do whatever the decision | 12:54 |
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| JaMa | FWIW: I don't mind the .0 included in oe-core, I just thought that oe-core updates only on stable versions, so I wanted to warn that it's not the case after mesa changed versioning | 12:55 |
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| JaMa | I cannot use recent mesa anyway, so for all my builds I'm stuck with 10.3.7 | 12:56 |
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| ranchu | k | 12:57 |
| ranchu | hi | 12:57 |
| ranchu | is it possible to change/edit some file in output filesystem and create image again ? | 12:57 |
| rburton | make the changes to the relevant recipe, and rebuild the image | 12:58 |
| ranchu | I understand, but is there a "quick and dirty" way just to change filesystem and then create image again. I am using "bitbake core-image-sato-sdk" | 13:01 |
| rburton | not really | 13:02 |
| rburton | because the moment bitbake regenerated the image you'd lose the changes | 13:03 |
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| ranchu | I don't understand how it regenerate filesystem. Isn't there in tmp a folder which contain the filesystem with all it folders (/bin , /usr etc) ? | 13:05 |
| rburton | yes | 13:05 |
| maka_ | Hey, i don't remember who it was, buti fixed the problem(not getting past Booting kernel) by using dd if=/path/to/image.hddimg of=/dev/usbhere | 13:05 |
| ranchu | what its name ? | 13:05 |
| rburton | but if you changed a recipe and it wanted to rebuild the image, it would rebuild it from scratch | 13:05 |
| rburton | its tmp/work/[machine]/[image]/rootfs | 13:06 |
| jku | rburton: I've sent a new gdk-pixbuf upgrade, please use that instead of the previous one -- or let me know if you want me to re-send some sets | 13:06 |
| ranchu | ok. I understand what you mean. Thanks | 13:06 |
| rburton | jku: thanks | 13:06 |
| jku | rburton: also it has some new ugly hacks in it, just so you know :) | 13:06 |
| rburton | ha | 13:07 |
| rburton | sigh | 13:07 |
| JaMa | rburton: is the flex upgrade revert in one of your mut branches? | 13:07 |
| rburton | jku: one day i'll get around to finishing my build-gtk3-from-git scripts to find this sort of nonsense | 13:08 |
| rburton | JaMa: no. was the conclusion to revert? we didn't have the totally broken release. | 13:08 |
| JaMa | we have totaly broken flex still in oe-core | 13:08 |
| JaMa | and there is revert with 2 Acks on it | 13:08 |
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| rburton | JaMa: so there is. tagged. | 13:10 |
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| ranchu | when changing source file of a package, we need to build that package , becuase bitbake won't detect a change in every package source code, right ? | 13:11 |
| rburton | ranchu: depends what you mean by changing package source | 13:11 |
| JaMa | https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=2601a5c0e5304ddb0b9b1d608b5b12ce04dc3a90 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/52256 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-11/msg01221.html and few more packages even changed documentation to explicitly mention not to use 2.6.2 flex version | 13:12 |
| rburton | fair enough | 13:12 |
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| ranchu | I mean source file which is part of a package which is used by the image recipe I am using. | 13:13 |
| ranchu | I meant to ask if bitbake will "know" that it need to rebuild that package, or should I explicitly rebuild it, before calling image recipe. | 13:14 |
| ranchu | with bitbake –c compile –f <pkg> | 13:14 |
| rburton | ranchu: if the source is referenced directly in the src_uri of the recipe, ie SRC_URI=file://somecode.c, then it will see and rebuild | 13:16 |
| rburton | if you're going into work/ and editing files, then it won't | 13:16 |
| rburton | if you're doing the latter, look up devtool in the documentation | 13:16 |
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| ranchu | thanks | 13:17 |
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| ranchu | when do we need to do "bitbake -c patch <pkg>" ? Is it for downloading source ? | 13:28 |
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| itayo | ranchu: dunno what that is for but bitbake -c fetch[all] is to download source atleast | 13:38 |
| itayo | ranchu: according to doc : "Locates patch files and applies them to the source code" | 13:39 |
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| itayo | i think it might fetch first if it isnt fetched thought | 13:40 |
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| ranchu | Does invoking bitbake <image> might try to download upgraded files ? | 13:57 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: if the recipes indicate a change, yes. it does not preventively check upstream servers. | 13:58 |
| ranchu | if I just change kernel version, will it result in trying to upgrade all packages ? | 13:58 |
| ranchu | thanks LetoThe2nd | 13:59 |
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| LetoThe2nd | nope, that will just try to download the new kernel version | 13:59 |
| ranchu | change kernel version in local.conf | 13:59 |
| ranchu | OK. Thanks,. | 13:59 |
| ranchu | Thanks LetoThe2nd | 13:59 |
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| ranchu | I need to apply RT patch. I see the readme in https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-rt/README | 14:03 |
| rburton | jku: huh, gnome-desktop-testing just failed here. does it build for you? | 14:03 |
| ranchu | Do I need to add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_$MACHINE = $MACHINE AS-IS or do I need to replace $MACHINE | 14:03 |
| ranchu | I think I need to replace the $MACHINE as needed. Thanks. | 14:06 |
| maka_ | Does anyone know how to install a .deb package while building the image? | 14:08 |
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| rburton | maka_: a deb that is supplied to you as a binary deb and you can't rebuild it? | 14:09 |
| maka_ | Yea i have some .deb files that i need to install in the project, but i have no idea how to do this | 14:09 |
| rburton | best way is to write a recipe that extracts the debs and re-packages them | 14:10 |
| rburton | just add the deb to SRC_URI and it will get unpacked, you can then install and package it properly | 14:10 |
| maka_ | How exactly would i do this? Sorry i'm quite new to all of this | 14:10 |
| rburton | (the problem is that a random deb will have dependencies that are valid for debian, not yocto) | 14:11 |
| maka_ | From what i heard these deb files do not have any dependencies | 14:11 |
| rburton | literally no point in them being in a deb then :) | 14:12 |
| rburton | well just do what i suggested, then you'll get a proper package with proper dependencies | 14:12 |
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| maka_ | But how can i do that? | 14:13 |
| rburton | add the deb to your SRC_URI | 14:13 |
| rburton | it gets unpacked like a tarball would be | 14:13 |
| rburton | install the files in do_install | 14:13 |
| kanavin | rburton: ah, magic - was going to suggest dpkg-deb -x :) | 14:13 |
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| rburton | huh /data/poky-master/tmp-glibc/work/corei7-64-poky-linux/shared-mime-info/1.8-r0/recipe-sysroot/usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:38:26: fatal error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory | 14:14 |
| maka_ | How do i create that do_install? i've read alot about it but i don't really know how i would create it myself | 14:14 |
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| maka_ | And i can't really find a proper guide or anything about those do_install, do_configure and all those functions | 14:15 |
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| rburton | maka_: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/TipsAndTricks/Packaging_Prebuilt_Libraries | 14:15 |
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| rburton | maka_: do_install is just "put files into ${D}", how you do it is up to you. typicall, mkdir and install will be sufficient. | 14:17 |
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| maka_ | The problem is mostly, as i said before, i'm quite new to both yocto and linux haha | 14:17 |
| marquiz | what would be the handiest way to determine if running under pseudo? | 14:18 |
| marquiz | just look at LD_PRELOAD or smth else(?) | 14:18 |
| maka_ | Also, thanks for that link rburton! | 14:18 |
| rburton | marquiz: pretty sure there's a better variable that is set | 14:18 |
| jku | rburton: gnome-desktop-testing looks ok here | 14:19 |
| marquiz | rburton: i thought so, any idea what that could be? :) | 14:19 |
| rburton | jku: yeah happened for shared-mime-info too :( | 14:19 |
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| rburton | marquiz: set [fakeroot] = 1 on do_devshell and run export in the terminal? | 14:21 |
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| maka_ | rburton, in my deb file are 3 files, 2 tar.gz and a debian-binary file. How would i go about installing these in do_install? | 14:25 |
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| marquiz | rburton: thanks, PSEUDO_DISABLED == "0" is the best i could find | 14:29 |
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| rburton | maka_: hm, i thought it would explode the tarball. you'll have to untar the right one first. | 14:31 |
| rburton | (or ask whoever is giving you debs to give you a tarball like everyone else) | 14:31 |
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| maka_ | rburton: from one of these files i could obtain a tar.gz2, would that be easier to install? | 14:32 |
| rburton | yes | 14:33 |
| maka_ | because i tried that aswell before, and i kept getting something like: package not in feed | 14:33 |
| maka_ | Either that or lots of problems with the license files | 14:33 |
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| spierepf | Where should I put a DEFAULTTUNE = "cortexa5hf-neon" directive? Should it be in the local.conf file? And if so, should it be before or after MACHINE ?= "qemuarm" | 14:43 |
| mrpelotazo | how can I get the beglebone green dtb to be built? I've tried adding KERNEL_DEVICETREE += " am335x-bonegreen.dtb" to my local.conf and bitbaked my image again, but the dtb is not generated... | 14:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | spierepf: usually you would put it into the machine file for your specific target | 14:45 |
| spierepf | LetoThe2nd: I'd like to still be able to run the result using qemuarm. Is there some way to override the contents of meta/conf/machine/qemuarm.conf? | 14:48 |
| spierepf | LetoThe2nd: Can I create my own qemuarm.conf? | 14:49 |
| ranchu | What is COMMON_LICENSE_DIR ? | 14:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | spierepf: you can for example create your own version, like qemuarma5.conf os such. overriding mich be complicated if the tune flags clash. for a quick hack, just modify qemuarm.conf | 14:52 |
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| kanavin | ta-daa! | 14:53 |
| * kanavin is now off rburton's shame list :) | 14:54 | |
| rburton | kanavin: uhoh, patch bomb | 14:54 |
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| rburton | spierepf: just put that in local.conf | 14:54 |
| rburton | urgh guile is building. i hate guile. | 14:55 |
| * rburton -> coffee | 14:55 | |
| kanavin | rburton: next version of guile should build faster | 14:56 |
| rburton | six minutes on a xeon is *crazy* | 14:57 |
| kanavin | rburton: it has some kind of gigantic lisp compile job inside, and they finally figured they should ship pre-compiled bytecode for common architectures at least | 14:57 |
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| rburton | yeah half the problem is that we have to build guile-native and then guile, both of which take an age | 14:57 |
| kanavin | rburton: all that for *one* recipe, grub if I remember right | 14:58 |
| rburton | yes | 14:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | hey at least your recipes are building. | 14:58 |
| rburton | i wonder if i can fiddle my machine config so it doesn't use grub :) | 14:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | i've been beating my head against libfortran again | 14:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | and i can tell you, it is a mess. | 14:59 |
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| spierepf | rburton: Does it matter where in local.conf I put the DEFAULTTUNE directive? | 15:02 |
| ranchu | anyone knows the difference between hddimg to iso ? | 15:03 |
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| ranchu | how can we edit /etc files with yocto ? | 15:13 |
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| ranchu | how can we edit /default/grub files with yocto ? | 15:15 |
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| _Ben | My `packages-split` directory seems to be missing, normally it is at `build/tmp/work/<arch>/python/<ver>/packages-split` but that no longer exists... any ideas? | 15:38 |
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| neverpanic | _Ben: packages might have been restored from sstate cache? | 15:42 |
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| _Ben | neverpanic: I did a cleansstate and rebuilt.. still nothing | 15:44 |
| micka | Hello, I have a question about an error on qemu recipe. In file: meta/recipes-devtools/qemu/qemu_2.2.0.bb, there is an SRC_URI_prepend. but it seens to miss a space at end of this line. because bitbake try to get two sources concatenated. Is that normal that is missing this space ? (I use krogoth). Thank | 15:46 |
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| rburton | micka: no thats a bug, iirc fixed in master so should be backported | 15:47 |
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| micka | ok thank, so I can't have fix for krogoth, isn't it ? | 15:49 |
| kanavin | micka: you can, send a patch to the list, and it'll be added to krogoth | 15:49 |
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| micka | ok | 15:50 |
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| sveinse | Has anyone experimented with vm parameters for optimizing for yocto building? I've thrown a bunch of memory at build server, but it does not really utilize it. | 16:51 |
| rburton | are you sure its not? | 16:52 |
| rburton | my builds use about 3/4rs of the ram as a disk cache | 16:52 |
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| rburton | MemTotal: 65922568 kB | 16:52 |
| rburton | Cached: 44989500 kB | 16:52 |
| sveinse | rburton: well, it sais 45Gb free, and 1Mb cached | 16:53 |
| rburton | maybe the VM drivers behave differently as it expects the host to cache the file system? | 16:53 |
| sveinse | vm as in linux kernel's vm. | 16:54 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #626 of nightly-wic is complete: Failure [failed CreateWicImages CreateWicImages_1 CreateWicImages_6 CreateWicImages_7] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-wic/builds/626 | 16:54 | |
| rburton | 1mb cached sounds very odd then | 16:54 |
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| sveinse | not sure what the abbrevation is for, but not a virtual machine in this context afaik | 16:54 |
| rburton | my 4gb idle nas has 3gb cached right now | 16:55 |
| sveinse | so, you don't do any special adaptation to the caching settings for yocto then? (This is common in databases servers) | 16:55 |
| rburton | no, unlike a database server we just use normal file IO | 16:55 |
| rburton | whereas a database server all the tuning is about turning off the smarts in the kernel | 16:55 |
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| rburton | (a database server might as well be considered a specialised OS) | 16:56 |
| sveinse | I convinced my boss to throw in another 64Gb memory into the blade server to aid yocto build speeds, but it doesn't really :( | 16:56 |
| rburton | well if its not using any ram as a disk cache, that's your problem | 16:56 |
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| rburton | so look again at whatever tuning you've already done | 16:56 |
| sveinse | I talked to some other linux expert, and he suggested setting up building in tmpfs as a better solution. But that wouldn't work too good with yocto | 17:00 |
| sveinse | I've set vm.swappiness lower, as I don't want this machine to start swapping (as the swap drive is very slow) | 17:02 |
| sveinse | Especially if there clearly is an abundance of memory | 17:02 |
| rburton | tmpfs works really well | 17:05 |
| rburton | just turn on rm_work | 17:05 |
| rburton | saves wear and tear on disks too | 17:06 |
| sveinse | which is SSD in my case | 17:07 |
| rburton | if you've loads of ram, then tmpfs is the easy win | 17:07 |
| rburton | put the TMPDIR in a tmpfs, and either copy out stuff you want to keep or put DEPLOYDIR somewhere else | 17:07 |
| sveinse | ah, great, locations can be set | 17:08 |
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| sveinse | most of it is sstate cache utilations anyways, so you don't lose any logs or anything from it | 17:09 |
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| rburton | yeah | 17:10 |
| sveinse | allthough I'd often wished I could access the logs for a statecache object, but that is entirely another discussion | 17:12 |
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| spierepf | If I define my own machine type (conf/machine/qemuarma5.conf) how do I invoke runqemu to use that machine type? | 17:16 |
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| spierepf | rburton: You mentioned putting DEFAULTTUNE in local.conf. Is there a particular point in the file where I should put it, or does it matter? | 17:24 |
| rburton | doesn't really matter | 17:25 |
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| ranchu_ | hi | 17:31 |
| ranchu_ | I try to deploy my yocto build for intel ATOM computer | 17:32 |
| ranchu_ | I get a keyboard/mouse toggling on screen, but nothing is printed on display | 17:32 |
| ranchu_ | anyone familiar with it ? | 17:32 |
| ranchu_ | I had no errors in build. | 17:32 |
| ranchu_ | I also tried to deploy the pre-built hddimg into usb , yet the same result. https://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/bsps/krogoth21/cherry-hill | 17:33 |
| spierepf | rburton: When I just add the DEFAULTTUNE directive, I get an error about "Tuning 'cortexa5hf-neon' has no defined features, and cannot be used". Which I think is because it is part of tune-cortexa5.inc which isn't included by default. | 17:33 |
| spierepf | rburton: where should I add the include directive? | 17:33 |
| rburton | sounds like you do need a new machine | 17:33 |
| * rburton doesn't understand arm arch | 17:34 | |
| spierepf | rburton: Can you point me at some docs about defining a new machine? | 17:35 |
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| lamego | rburton: Can you please take a look at https://patchwork.openembedded.org/series/4820/ when you have the time? These are patches related to egg files added to path in distutils3. Not merged yet. | 18:06 |
| lamego | rburton: and let me know if something else is needed. | 18:06 |
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| themikenicholson | Is there an equivalent of rpm's --what-provides for the sysroot? | 19:03 |
| themikenicholson | Any way to track down which recipe/pacakge create a particular file? | 19:04 |
| rburton | oe-pkgdata-utils can tell you | 19:04 |
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| JaMa | themikenicholson: or you can use grep -R foo tmp-eglibc/sstate-control | 19:06 |
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| themikenicholson | rburton: Thanks, exactly what I was looking for | 19:10 |
| themikenicholson | seems to be missing in the yocto reference manual - is there another trove of information that i should be checking before I bother the irc channel? | 19:12 |
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| kanavin_home | themikenicholson: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#viewing-package-information-with-oe-pkgdata-util | 19:17 |
| kanavin_home | which version of the manual are you looking at? | 19:17 |
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| themikenicholson | kanavin_home: Oh, was looking at the 2.1 version | 19:30 |
| themikenicholson | in the process of moving our team to morty, still had 2.1 bookmarked | 19:31 |
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| kanavin_home | themikenicholson: bookmark the above, it's 'latest' :) | 19:33 |
| kanavin_home | then you'll learn about the cool stuff as it happens :) | 19:34 |
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| sveinse | I have a recipe that fails because configure does not support '--disable-static'. This is not mentioned in the recipe, so where is it coming from? | 20:17 |
| sveinse | ${EXTRA_OECONF} perhaps | 20:18 |
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| ranchu | I try to deploy yocto to ATOM E3800, I boot with USB, yet after some printing on display it stops. Is it spme issue of display ? I tried to press shift but van't get into grub | 20:23 |
| spierepf | I'm looking for help me with a DEFAULTTUNE = "armcortexa5hf-neon" | 20:23 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: conf/distro/include/no-static-libs.inc most likely | 20:23 |
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| sveinse | kanavin_home: yeah, and then? :D (/me trying to follow the chain backwards) | 20:30 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: grep is your friend :) | 20:30 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: you can also use bitbake -e | 20:31 |
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| sveinse | kanavin_home: Yes I am, but bitbake -e does not tell my why no-static-libs.inc gets pulled in in the first place | 20:37 |
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| sveinse | Has bitbake $(filter-out)-type functionality? I'd like to keep ${EXTRA_OECONF} to the recipe's configure, but since the upstream configure don't support --disable-static, I'd like to filter it out. | 20:41 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: it does | 20:45 |
| kanavin_home | # $EXTRA_OECONF [11 operations] | 20:45 |
| kanavin_home | # set /home/ak/development/poky/meta/conf/bitbake.conf:498 | 20:45 |
| kanavin_home | # "" | 20:46 |
| kanavin_home | # _append /home/ak/development/poky/meta/conf/distro/include/no-static-libs.inc:33 | 20:46 |
| kanavin_home | # "${DISABLE_STATIC}" | 20:46 |
| kanavin_home | ah, wait :) | 20:47 |
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| sveinse | kanavin_home: it tells you it's set in no-static-libs.inc, right | 20:47 |
| sveinse | kanavin_home: but perhaps no-static-libs.inc gets included no matter what? | 20:47 |
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| kanavin_home | sveinse: nope, it actually does :) | 20:48 |
| kanavin_home | # /home/ak/development/poky/meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf includes: | 20:48 |
| kanavin_home | # /home/ak/development/poky/meta-poky/conf/distro/include/poky-world-exclude.inc | 20:48 |
| kanavin_home | # /home/ak/development/poky/meta/conf/distro/include/no-static-libs.inc | 20:48 |
| kanavin_home | # /home/ak/development/poky/meta/conf/distro/include/yocto-uninative.inc | 20:48 |
| kanavin_home | but you could *easily* establish all of this with grep, just do it :) | 20:49 |
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| sveinse | I did, but I don't understand the context | 20:49 |
| sveinse | This file is always included into the project, is that it? | 20:49 |
| ed2 | rburton: I can't reproduce wic build failure. I'll try again. | 20:50 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: which file? | 20:50 |
| ed2 | rburton: can you merge this patchset please: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-February/132854.html | 20:51 |
| sveinse | kanavin_home: ah, it is. meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf:108 | 20:51 |
| sveinse | All right, how do I cope with a upstream configure that does not like --disable-static? | 20:51 |
| ed2 | rburton: the failure is most probably caused by the last patchset: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-February/133080.html | 20:52 |
| sveinse | a) patch the sources, to whatever avail | 20:52 |
| sveinse | b) filter out --disable-static to its confiure in the recipe? | 20:52 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: EXTRA_OECONF_remove = "--disable-static" | 20:52 |
| sveinse | kanavin_home: good, thanks | 20:52 |
| kanavin_home | again, grep is awesome for things like this - there are several recipes that need this, and I found out by looking for 'disable-static' | 20:53 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: ak@linux-f9zs:~/development/poky/meta> grep -ir disable-static * | 20:53 |
| kanavin_home | it's the local incarnation of 'google stackoverflow' :) | 20:55 |
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| sveinse | kanavin_home: it is, but it's not always easy to see the context. E.g. in my repo I've got only one that use EXTRA_OECONF_remove and that is meta/recipes-extended/ed/ed_0.5.bb among some 50 matches that sets EXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-static" | 20:56 |
| sveinse | I like grep -rHne | 20:56 |
| sveinse | I found it when I knew what I was looking for | 20:57 |
| kanavin_home | sveinse: well, I'm grepping only within oe-core, and there's few results | 20:57 |
| sveinse | yeah, but I don't know if its poky or oe or any other fsl sources, unfortunately | 20:58 |
| sveinse | Another thing I've been wondering about: when to use += vs _append | 20:59 |
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| paulg | ranchu, linux-yocto is a kernel specific list ; you'll probably have better luck getting assistance on a generic yocto mailing list. | 21:04 |
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| paulg | https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/community/mailing-lists | 21:05 |
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| kanavin_home | sveinse: tbh, I don't know that either, but I prefer _append, because += is too similar to =, ?= and other similar operators | 21:12 |
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| kanavin_home | there's too much history of serious bugs because someone didn't notice they used the 'slightly wrong' thing | 21:13 |
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| ranchu | hi | 21:28 |
| ranchu | can I expect yocto to run on different machine, by just replaing machine in local.conf ? | 21:29 |
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| sveinse | There is many smart solutions built in to the variable system in bb, but for an outsider, there is also very much use of magic in it | 21:29 |
| ranchu | We consider yocto, becuase we epexct that if we replace cpu, it will be just a matter of replacing the "machine" in local.conf. Is that correct ? | 21:30 |
| kanavin_home | ranchu: yes | 21:32 |
| ranchu | ok. | 21:32 |
| ranchu | Is it correct to assume that boot time in yocto is faster than ubuntu ? | 21:33 |
| sveinse | I hate to be the naysayer, but it depends if all bsp for the machines are written the way they should. | 21:33 |
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| kanavin_home | sveinse: yes, there's plenty of ways to make things broken, but let's assume they're not :) | 21:34 |
| ranchu | hi sveinse, you mean that bsp files is different in yoctoproject, right ? | 21:34 |
| ranchu | for each cpu, | 21:34 |
| sveinse | We're on custom arm HW, and it is certainly not always the case. I had to spend a few days worth of work to move our image over to another evaluation board | 21:34 |
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| sveinse | ranchu: well, I'm no expert, but I belive the official layers are really good at this | 21:35 |
| ranchu | sveinse - I understand its a big efforct, yet it seem to manage to move the yocto project to another machine, right ? | 21:35 |
| kanavin_home | ranchu: boot time depends on what you place into the image you build | 21:36 |
| sveinse | yes, definitely. We moved our development from an embedded ubuntu type image to yocto two years ago | 21:36 |
| ranchu | sveine - OK, I thought you meant that you moved yocto from one machine to another. | 21:37 |
| sveinse | Both actually | 21:37 |
| sveinse | We have multiple machines/types HW, and we have moved from one type of build system to yocto | 21:37 |
| ranchu | so moving yocto from one machine to another is a big or small issue ? | 21:38 |
| sveinse | but all armv7 (cortex a9) thou | 21:38 |
| ranchu | from arm to intel for example | 21:38 |
| kanavin_home | ranchu: depends on the quality of the bsp layer | 21:38 |
| sveinse | again, my experience is that it depends. On arm, due to the system-on-chip vendors, it can vary from extremely good to not great | 21:38 |
| kanavin_home | ranchu: if both bsp layers are top quality, then you change the MACHINE setting, and rebuild, and that's all :) | 21:38 |
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| sveinse | ranchu: what archtecture are you considering? | 21:39 |
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| ranchu | OK, I'll gie the full story: we are in a dillema with a new intel board. not sure if use yocto or ubuntu. ubntu managed to start on board, but not yocto yet. it's just intel ATOM. not sure why. | 21:39 |
| ranchu | it's also have to be "realtime" (RT patch) | 21:40 |
| ranchu | is ubuntu less "embedded" than yocto ? | 21:40 |
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| sveinse | yes, I think so. but with it comes availability. E.g. with yocto you need to build everything. For ubuntu, there is loads and loads of upstream packages available. | 21:42 |
| sveinse | our experience with running an embedded product with ubuntu, is that ubuntu is mainly adopted for desktop and server use, not so much embedded. | 21:43 |
| sveinse | Our product used to take 50 seconds to boot, which was acceptable. And we did a concept study to see what could be done. The conclusion was that we had to significantly patch ubuntu to be able to improve/tailor it, and then the whole motivation for using vanilla ubuntu goes away. | 21:44 |
| ranchu | but realtime, is a kernel issue not filesystem, right ? and boottime is mostly a matter of reducing servers/applications at startup , right ? | 21:44 |
| sveinse | It was then we decided to migrate to yocto | 21:44 |
| sveinse | now we boot in 17 secs | 21:44 |
| sveinse | ^ edit: 50 secs was /unacceptable/... | 21:45 |
| ranchu | So Isn't it possible to reduce boot time in ubuntu too ? | 21:45 |
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| ranchu | I have ATOM with 27 seconds now with ubuntu, without doing any optimizations yet. | 21:46 |
| sveinse | It always is, but it is a tradeoff in how much time you want to tinker with the system to make it behave the way you want. | 21:46 |
| sveinse | well, things have improved with systemd I believe, so I wouldn't know for more modern ubuntus | 21:46 |
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| ranchu | sveinse - OK, thanks for the information | 21:49 |
| sveinse | ranchu: you're welcome | 21:49 |
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| lamego | halstead: are you around? | 22:00 |
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| halstead | lamego: Yes but I'm in a board meeting right now. | 22:05 |
| lamego | halstead: ok, just to let you know that oe-patchwork may not need the server code update. It seems to be appropriately processing patches now. We may talk about it later. | 22:07 |
| halstead | lamego, I pulled changes and restarted it this morning when lsandov pinged me. | 22:07 |
| lamego | halstead: that must be the reason :) thanks | 22:07 |
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| halstead | lamego, I'm curious if the scripts we used to get the initial patches loaded into patchwork could be useful now. | 22:09 |
| lamego | halstead: are you talking about the "patchwork-update-commits" and "update-superseded" scripts? I see no reason why the couldn't | 22:12 |
| halstead | lamego, Okay. It might help catch up once I get the missed patches in place. | 22:13 |
| lamego | halstead: Agree | 22:13 |
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| halstead | lamego, Could you add your async hook to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/patchwork/tree/tools ? I don't think it's tracked anywhere at the moment. | 22:14 |
| lamego | halstead: sure, I will. | 22:14 |
| halstead | Thanks lamego. It definitely speeds things up. :) | 22:15 |
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| sveinse | are there any naming package rules concerning nativesdk rules? I have a meta-toolchain-lm which TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK += "". If I add nativesdk-packagegroup-lm-host it works fin, if I add packagesgroup-nativesdk-sp it fails for missing 'virtual/x86_64-pokysdk-linux-gcc'. It's only the filename which is different, it's the same file. | 22:48 |
| sveinse | Let me guess, it needs the prefix 'nativesdk-' in its name? | 22:50 |
| sveinse | Seems so. Renaming 'packagegroup-nativesdk-sp' to 'nativesdk-packagegroup-sp' and it works | 22:54 |
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