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| ranchu | hi, how can we reduce boot time in yocto ? | 06:35 |
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| ranchu | Is there some way to reduce boot time in yocto ? | 06:42 |
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| ranchu | anyone made a usb boot with intel cpu ? I get a blinking cursor. | 07:03 |
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| ranchu | Is it possible to upgrade kernel in local.conf with older yocto branches (daisy for example) ? | 07:25 |
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| ranchu | Is it possible to upgrade kernel in local.conf with older yocto branches (daisy for example) ? | 07:27 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: in local.conf you could select a preferred version, but you still need a layer that provides the corresponding recipe. so the correct answer is: not by only using local.conf exclusively | 07:36 |
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| ranchu | LetoThe2nd - Hi LetoThe2nd , why do I need corresponding recipe ? Isn't local.conf preferred version suffecient ? | 07:39 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: well if you set the preferred version to something, lets say x.y, then that does not automagically tell bitbake how to make that. per preferred version, you can only select things that are known to bitbake (e.g., have a recipe | 07:41 |
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| ranchu | Ok, I think I understand | 07:43 |
| ranchu | thanks | 07:43 |
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| ranchu | by the way, is there something in filesystem that depens on kernel version, except kernel modules ? | 07:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: not necessarily, but possibly. | 07:44 |
| ranchu | possible becuase some libraries depends on specific kernel versions (probably becuase of syscalss api) ? | 07:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | its more common that things rely on specific kernel features to be present, which in turn can also mean "newer then" if the features are rather recent | 07:45 |
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| ranchu | and yocto takes cares for all these dependencies between libraries and kernel (kernel features, kernel syscalls, etc) ? | 07:46 |
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| ranchu | LetoThe2nd - Does Yocto takes cares for all these dependencies between libraries and kernel (kernel features, kernel syscalls, etc) ? which means that it might upgrade libraries if kernel is newer ? | 07:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: yocto itself cares for nothing, you probably mean OE, or poky as the reference distribution :-D | 07:48 |
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| ranchu | yes, I mean OE, or poky... :) they should take care of these dependencies Right ? | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: and the build process again will not automagically update any libraries. you can prefer/request a certain version of something, and if it finds all the needed recipes for the versioned dependency chain, then those things get built. it will not by itself change/update any version, you always have to provide the specific version recipe | 07:52 |
| ranchu | if this is so, it sounds a real endeviour trying to upgrade kernel..... if dependencies are not automagically being taken care of... | 07:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | in the end thats the point of the releases. to have a coherent set of the infrastructure. | 07:54 |
| ranchu | if this is so, it sounds a real endeviour trying to upgrade kernel..... if dependencies are not automagically being taken care of... | 07:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: not at all, because the kernel-userspace interface is well known. things become only nasty if some binary kernel magic is involved, or versioned non-opensourced drivers, or things like that. | 07:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i have dora, dizzy, krogoth, morty, all on the same kernel version maintained for my projects. effort is zero. | 07:56 |
| ranchu | I mean that if for updating kernel it is not just a matter of changing PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto , and I also need to create recipes, than it sounds quite heavy | 07:59 |
| ranchu | very | 07:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | ranchu: linux-yocto is only provided in specific versions anyways. and it is not the vanilla upstream kernel. | 08:00 |
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| maka_ | Heya | 08:01 |
| ranchu | I understand, Ok. Thanks LetoThe2nd | 08:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | again, it depends very much on your userland. if it is well behaved, and your kernel is too, then just slap in a linux_kernel_custom with your version and source, and be done. | 08:01 |
| maka_ | Does anyone know how to install deb files with something like apt-get in a yocto image? | 08:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: what is it that you want? either you get something as a deb and want to write a recipe for it, or you want your build output to be deb formatted, and support packagemanagement at runtime? | 08:03 |
| maka_ | preferably i want a recipe to put it in the build while making the image. But i couldnt get that to work sadly. | 08:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | well then why deb? why not proper source upstream? | 08:05 |
| maka_ | What i'm trying now is installing the deb package after making the image with apt-get however i get some errors: Couldn't find any package by glob/regex | 08:05 |
| maka_ | Because the packages that were provided to me are debs ._. | 08:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | if thats all that you get, then you are up for some ugly unpacking and custom installation scripting in your recipe | 08:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | plus the fact that you will have fun in getting the arch things right | 08:06 |
| maka_ | I thought so... the problem is, i have no clue how to make that recipe as i am quite new to both yocto and linux | 08:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: basically it is this: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#packaging-externally-produced-binaries | 08:07 |
| maka_ | I am however able to get some tar.bz2 packages for some of the debs, would that be easier to install? | 08:07 |
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| LetoThe2nd | maka_: usually tarballs are easier because you don't need manual unpacking action | 08:08 |
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| maka_ | Because i tried that aswell before, but i kept getting errors that the feed was empty or things like that | 08:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: then probably your install steps were faulty, and therefore created empty packages. | 08:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: what you describe about always means manual do_install scripts to be written. | 08:10 |
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| maka_ | Hmm, im pretty sure thats it yea, however i have no clue how that do_install function works ._. | 08:10 |
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| LetoThe2nd | maka_: thats why i handed you the documentation on writing recipes. | 08:11 |
| maka_ | i'm reading through that right now ^^ | 08:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: here even is a super trivial example for a do_install http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#new-recipe-single-c-file-package-hello-world | 08:11 |
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| maka_ | the weird thing is, i also tried installing de tar package on ubuntu normally, it had some steps like ./configure and make, make modules and stuff like that. But even on ubuntu that seemed to fail | 08:14 |
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| * LetoThe2nd sighs. | 08:14 | |
| LetoThe2nd | so the tarball is source, and the deb is binary probably. | 08:15 |
| maka_ | The tarball is indeed source, no clue about the deb though | 08:15 |
| LetoThe2nd | in that case look at the source, find if it is autotoolized or using some other build system, and then apply the corresponding documentation | 08:15 |
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| maka_ | LetoThe2nd: ok, so so far it can find the file(the tar.bz2) and unpacks it, however at this part "install -m 0755 helloworld ${D}${bindir}" it has some error, ofc i changed the helloworld, but what exactly should be there? | 08:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: that basically copies whatever you want over to the target. | 08:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | https://linux.die.net/man/1/install | 08:25 |
| maka_ | hmm, but in that case i have to do this differently right? since there are makefiles and a ./configure | 08:27 |
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| fl0v0 | hi! is it possible for two recipes to share the same work directory? | 08:30 |
| fl0v0 | I have a case where one recipe needs the generated configuration files of another recipe | 08:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: hm. did you actually read the documentation beyond the headline that i gave you? | 08:32 |
| maka_ | I did, however i dont really get it yet ._. | 08:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: there is examples for things that come with makefiles, and things that come autotoolized (and a ./configure is often, but not necessarily a hint that a source package is autotoolized) | 08:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: so what packages are this. is it something that i actually could look at, or some arcane closed whatever stuff? | 08:33 |
| maka_ | The one im trying to get to install now is found here: etherlab.org/download/ethercat/ethercat-1.5.2.tar.bz2 | 08:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: ok, so stuff with kernel modules and all. | 08:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | you certainly are in for a hard ride. my first suggestion would be to have a long and thorough look at what they did there, and if the layer procide something for you to recycle: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/59739/ | 08:38 |
| maka_ | "you certainly are in for a hard ride" Not what i was hoping (._.')7 | 08:39 |
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| LetoThe2nd | hope has nothing to do with proper code. | 08:40 |
| maka_ | Fair enoug | 08:41 |
| maka_ | h | 08:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | you've got a 4 year old unmaintained tarball that needs kernel modules. | 08:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats just like the definition of "pain" | 08:41 |
| maka_ | And thats only 1 of the packages ^^ | 08:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | let me guess, university project? ;-) | 08:43 |
| maka_ | Internship | 08:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | something like "here is the board, make all this stuff run on it. oh and yes, you gotta use this yocto linux, we've heard it is cool!"? | 08:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | or is there actually somebody competent to guide and teach you? | 08:45 |
| maka_ | Nopeee | 08:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | what nope? | 08:45 |
| maka_ | They heard about it, looked at it for 30 minutes and thought, thats fun, we could use this! | 08:45 |
| maka_ | Go find out if it works with these packages! | 08:45 |
| maka_ | And no one really knows how it works sadly, so i don't really have anyne to guide me... | 08:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | then better stop now and tell your boss "it certainly can be made work, but needs serious effort." and point out that you just don't have the necessary knowledge. | 08:46 |
| maka_ | Would it really be that hard to get to work yea? | 08:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | for someone knowing linux, cross compilation and openembedded, my estimate would be a couple of days, if there is nothing major to be patched in the source. | 08:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | what things do you already know, and what are you expected to learn? what is the timeframe? | 08:49 |
| maka_ | Well my knowledge about linux is limited to some raspberry pi stuff, i know the basics of yocto a little now, and i have about 5 months | 08:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | what kind of board is this? | 08:51 |
| maka_ | It's supposed to run on some embedded pc | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats no answer | 08:51 |
| maka_ | something with an intel cpu, thats all i know | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | is it a one of a kind? | 08:52 |
| maka_ | i don't know yet | 08:52 |
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| LetoThe2nd | because then better just slap debain on it, manually install everything and beat onto it until it works | 08:52 |
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| maka_ | That would be better yea | 08:53 |
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| LetoThe2nd | OE is cool if you need to maintain things in the long run. if you need to be able to reproduce the whole system days, weeks, months or even years later if soemthing need to be changed | 08:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | or if you are on targets and in environments that are not supposed to have package management and all that | 08:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | if its just for a one of a kind test drive, better do the standard desktop thing. (my $.02) | 08:54 |
| maka_ | It has to work for a long time tho, its not just a test or something | 08:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | that sound not very well considered. | 08:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | i condense the situation to: "we have an intern for 5 month, no clue about OE, about linux a bit maybe, and he shall take this huge pile of partially arcane, old, and unmaintained software to deliver a reaady-to-use-product." | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | if that sounds about right, tell your supervisor that this will not fly. | 08:57 |
| maka_ | I'll mention it next meeting .-. | 08:58 |
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| LetoThe2nd | in 5 months you can get a solid grasp of cross-building software and OE. probably also make one or two packages work. | 08:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | more if there is someone to guide and teach, less if you are left all alone. | 08:59 |
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| maka_ | It's the latter one sadly | 09:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | well then | 09:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | sounds like you need to compile a bit of information how things generally work, and then have some serious conversation | 09:02 |
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| maka_ | Probably... Don't really wanna fck up internship though ._. | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka_: you can also bury yourself at your desk and let things blow up the last day. | 09:05 |
| maka_ | Yea, fair enough bit still haha | 09:06 |
| maka_ | but* | 09:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | in my experience, it is ok the give impossible tasks to an intern. but it needs to be clear that the target is then "go as far as you can, and we'll talk regularly about the progress, problems, and things you learned." | 09:06 |
| maka_ | I really do hope that will be the case here | 09:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | like, discussing your proceeding with the supervisor once a week or so. | 09:06 |
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| nrossi | JaMa: You around? got a query regarding the QEMU error you hit. Are you enforcing -Werror? | 09:08 |
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| maka_ | LetoThe2nd: Either way, Thanks for the info! | 09:20 |
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| LetoThe2nd | good luck | 09:20 |
| maka_ | Thanks ^^ | 09:21 |
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| JaMa | nrossi: no I'm not enforcing Werror, see the patch I've sent | 09:40 |
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| nrossi | JaMa: I did see it, the thing is i would have expected that the nativesdk build to see the same error since it it using glibc 2.25 but its just a warning :| | 09:53 |
| nrossi | JaMa: And the thing is that the default configure for QEMU doesn't enable Werror unless you are at least using it from a git repo (of which the _2.8.0.bb recipe is using a tarball) | 09:54 |
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| zzeroo | What's the prefered way to express `systemctl enable wpa_supplicant@wlan0.conf` in a recipe? | 10:04 |
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| marquiz | hmm, patchwork seems to have missed one of my patches: | 10:35 |
| marquiz | http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-February/133241.html | 10:35 |
| marquiz | is that common? | 10:35 |
| JaMa | nrossi: nativesdk is probably also using patched autoconf openembedded-core/meta/recipes-devtools/autoconf/autoconf/AC_HEADER_MAJOR-port-to-glibc-2.25.patch which many hosts don't have | 10:35 |
| JaMa | marquiz: common in last week, but should be fixed now http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2017-February/111470.html | 10:36 |
| marquiz | JaMa: oh, thx, that thread had avoided my radar somehow | 10:42 |
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| ed2 | rburton: I've just sent an explanation of the AB build failure. Would you mind to pull my patchsets back? | 10:58 |
| rburton | ed2: ah, ok. joshuagl, can you look at ed's latest reply to the wic thread? there's an AR for you in there :) | 10:59 |
| ed2 | rburton: it took me awhile to figure out that hidden MACHINE change. That's quite confusing. | 11:00 |
| joshuagl | rburton: ed2: sure, I'll take a look. These things are usually better tracked as bug reports | 11:01 |
| ed2 | joshuagl: yep, I'll create a bug. | 11:01 |
| joshuagl | thanks ed2 | 11:02 |
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| maka_ | Heya! | 11:08 |
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| maka_ | I was wondering, if i have some specific make commands needed for a package, how do i add those to the recipe? | 11:09 |
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| rburton | maka_: in do_compile() (which by default is basically "make", and can be seen in base.bbclass) | 11:11 |
| maka_ | And how exactly would i have to add it there? can i just type like: make nameOfFile ? | 11:12 |
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| rburton | maka_: yes | 11:18 |
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| ranchu | I see in usb iso image both syslinux and grub.cfg. does it mean both are used ? | 11:21 |
| ranchu | hi | 11:21 |
| ranchu | I see in usb iso image both syslinux and grub.cfg. does it mean both are used ? | 11:23 |
| maka_ | rburton: It actually compiles now! However i get: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `file/path' is incompatible with i386 output | 11:27 |
| rburton | maka_: as that's not an error that our tooling produces, i can't really help | 11:29 |
| maka_ | Thats alright, just said i got it, trying to fix it now, something in the package should change to x64 instead of x86, at least that swha ti found | 11:30 |
| maka_ | thats what i found* | 11:30 |
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| ranchu | What's the difference between hddimg and iso ? | 13:01 |
| ranchu | I manage to boot with rufus burn of iso, but not with linux "dd" of iso. I don't understand the difference. | 13:02 |
| rburton | and hddimg is a disk image with partitions and a boot loader | 13:03 |
| ranchu | rburton - the sentence seemd to be cut | 13:04 |
| rburton | i meant 'an hddimg' | 13:05 |
| ranchu | what's the difference between hddimg and iso ? | 13:05 |
| ranchu | iso also have bootloader I think | 13:05 |
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| rburton | hddimg is a disk image with a partition and boot loaders, and live boots a read-write image from the disk image | 13:09 |
| rburton | and iso is a cd image | 13:09 |
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| maka_ | Any chance i could get Gdebi package manager on yocto? | 13:12 |
| rburton | maka_: sure, write a recipe | 13:12 |
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| kanavin | rburton: I'm not seeing my version update patchbomb in patchwork, shall I resend? | 13:22 |
| rburton | kanavin: second time i've been told that | 13:22 |
| rburton | kanavin: no, tell lsandov instead :) | 13:23 |
| rburton | i'm not relying on patchworks right now | 13:23 |
| rburton | (as in my primary workflow is still mail) | 13:23 |
| kanavin | rburton: I think ppl have been already complaining, so no need for extra | 13:23 |
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| kanavin | rburton: oh, and: shall we throw the dnf patchset on more than x86_64 ab? | 13:25 |
| kanavin | rburton: like, all of them at once, so I have no time for explorathon :D | 13:25 |
| kanavin | the last one was all green btw | 13:26 |
| rburton | kanavin: yeah i can throw it across the hole buildsets | 13:26 |
| rburton | what was the branch name? | 13:27 |
| kanavin | https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=akanavin/dnf-rpm4 | 13:27 |
| rburton | kanavin: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/tgrid | 13:27 |
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| kanavin | wget works, but firefox does not - over the same proxy.ir.intel.com :-/ | 13:39 |
| kanavin | something on my local setup then | 13:39 |
| kanavin | ah, wrong channel :) | 13:40 |
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| kanavin | rburton: is this serious? what does it test for? https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-distrodata/builds/10 | 13:55 |
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| joshuagl | saul asked for that to be enabled but it doesn't seem especially useful in its present form, patches or bug reports welcome | 14:04 |
| kanavin | joshuagl: so it's expected to fail, and I should not be looking further? | 14:04 |
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| joshuagl | it's not expected to fail, but the output is not very useful | 14:04 |
| kanavin | joshuagl: what I mean is that it's not something I broke in the dnf branch that makes it fail | 14:06 |
| joshuagl | all 10 runs have failed so that seems unlikely | 14:06 |
| joshuagl | kanavin: I think the dnf branch may have contributed, just teasing out the data | 14:09 |
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| ranchu | Any idea how to install hddimg or iso on virtualbox ? | 14:12 |
| ranchu | I try to install the images on virtualbox ? | 14:12 |
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| joshuagl | kanavin: rburton: that builder is calling "bitbake world -c distrodata" for 10 MACHINEs, then combining the generated distrodata.csv, extracting the Package and Description fields and writing those to a new distrpatch.csv, if distropatch.csv exists then the builder fails. | 14:15 |
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| kanavin | joshuagl: pardon me, what is the purpose of -c distrodata? | 14:16 |
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| rburton | kanavin: do you really want to know or will you be happy with "don't worry about it" :) | 14:18 |
| joshuagl | rburton: I somehow don't think the nightly-distrodata builder is doing what Saul wants/expects. It seems to be generating the data rrs uses? | 14:19 |
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| rburton | rrs doesn't use it afaik | 14:19 |
| rburton | distrodata compares with other distros, rrs is upstream | 14:19 |
| rburton | i'm wondering if we can ditch it | 14:20 |
| joshuagl | the builder only cares about whether upgrades are available for recipes | 14:21 |
| joshuagl | it ignores the data which compares with other distros | 14:21 |
| joshuagl | that bitbake invocation generates 4 csv files: checkpkg.csv, distrocheck.csv, distrodata.csv, missinglicense.csv | 14:22 |
| joshuagl | distrocheck seems to be the one you're thinking of rburton ? but the AB ignores that | 14:22 |
| rburton | hm | 14:22 |
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| kanavin | it would be nice to have an AB test for upstream check regressions | 14:23 |
| kanavin | I think joshuagl filed a bug for it | 14:23 |
| kanavin | me cleaning those up after people change SRC_URI is not optimal | 14:24 |
| joshuagl | I did file a bug for it | 14:24 |
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| ranchu | Anyone knows what is the difference between iso to hddimg ? | 14:35 |
| JaMa | ranchu: rburton knows, I've seen him explaining it here earlier today | 14:36 |
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| pohly | How do I enable the "musl" configuration used by the autobuilders? | 14:38 |
| pohly | Which MACHINE, for example? | 14:38 |
| joshuagl | qemux86 | 14:39 |
| joshuagl | TCLIBC="musl" | 14:39 |
| pohly | I tried MACHINE=intel-core-i7-64 together with require conf/distro/include/tclibc-musl.inc. | 14:39 |
| pohly | So just TCLIBC="musl", no the include file? | 14:39 |
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| joshuagl | right, that's all the AB does | 14:40 |
| ranchu | hi rburton, can you please explain the difference ? I hope you weren't explaing it to me before :) | 14:40 |
| Tamis | I am doing a kernel build, but the do_kernel_metadata function make too much time. Almost an hour. | 14:42 |
| Tamis | If I do the same build without using yocto style recipe. The build finishes way faster. Why is that? | 14:43 |
| ranchu | Anyone familiar with difference between hddimg and iso ? | 14:46 |
| rburton | ranchu: i was :) 'hddimg is a disk image with a partition and boot loaders, and live boots a read-write image from the disk image. iso is a cd image.' | 14:49 |
| seebs | https://security.googleblog.com/2017/02/announcing-first-sha1-collision.html | 14:49 |
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| ranchu | rburton, ok now I got your explanation. yet - I think the iso is also with bootloader. i.e. the only difference is disk to cd image. Or am I wrong ? | 14:51 |
| ranchu | I ask (I'm not sure, I just think I saw in iso a bootloader too) | 14:51 |
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| gizero | hi! just updated a build to use latest master did run a eSDK build. I noticed a change in the naming of artifacts in tmp/deploy/sdk. Some of the files there now include a reference to the date of the metadata snapshot. Wondering why this applies to "buildtools" artifacts, but not to "nativesdk-libc" ones. Even more strange SDK install scripts, manifests and testdata.json only got th '+snapshot' thing but | 15:01 |
| gizero | with no date. Is this expected behaviour? (disclaimer: using some extra meta layers here, not yet tested with plain poky) | 15:01 |
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| rburton | kanavin: some failures on the dnf branch btw | 15:07 |
| kanavin | rburton: yes, was watching that anxiously :) | 15:08 |
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| ranchu | I've added "GRUB_SERIAL ?= "console=ttyS2,115200" in /meta-hw/hardhware/hadrware.conf , yet after invoking bitbake image, grub.cfg is not updated. | 15:16 |
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| ranchu | Do I need to invoke bitbake grub before ? | 15:16 |
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| rburton | no idea what meta-hw is but it sounds like some recipe doesn't have its dependencies right | 15:18 |
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| ranchu | rburton - I rechecked, and see only one conf file in meta folders which has SYSLINUX_SERIAL_TTY, yet I don't find it in the generate syslinux.cfg | 15:33 |
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| ranchu | How do we usually get files, I see that apt-get is not inside by default | 15:56 |
| ranchu | install I mean | 15:56 |
| rburton | ranchu: if you have selected package_deb then just ensure that package-management is in your IMAGE_FEATURES | 15:56 |
| rburton | then you'll have apt-get | 15:56 |
| ranchu | Ok , thanks! | 15:57 |
| ranchu | But is it correct to assume that it's not inside "by default" ? | 15:58 |
| ranchu | Ok, I assume the answer is yes. Thanks. | 15:58 |
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| wesam | hello, when i try bitbaking python-pysqlite i get an error saying python setup.py build execution failed | 16:03 |
| wesam | anyone has any idea what could be causing it | 16:03 |
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| fl0v0 | hi, i have a recipe that provides the same shared library (speex) as a recipe in poky | 16:16 |
| fl0v0 | i tried adding PROVIDES += "speex" but it still tries to build the poky recipe | 16:16 |
| kergoth | you have to pick which provider you want | 16:18 |
| kergoth | search the yocto docs for PREFERRED_PROVIDER | 16:18 |
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| fl0v0 | kergoth:thanks | 16:22 |
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| themikenicholson | Does anyone have any recommendations for managing multiple layers in different repos? Freescale goes with the "repo" tool but I'm not wild about it and condering looking into git submodules or subtree | 16:29 |
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| joshuagl | themikenicholson: https://github.com/Wind-River/wr-lx-setup/ is a new tool WindRiver developed | 16:31 |
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| gizero | joshuagl: themikenicholson: AFAIK wr-lx-setup from WindRiver uses google repo. Others successfully manage to do this with submodules (https://github.com/resin-os). IMHO subtrees are not meant for the job | 16:36 |
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| themikenicholson | gizero: what is the reasoning against subtree? I havne't had a reason to play with it yet. Before yocto we used a big mono-repo. | 16:40 |
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| ranchu | Any idea why display goes to sleep in intel image ? | 18:07 |
| ranchu | I have print in serial, but display is sleep. | 18:07 |
| rburton | because X has a screensaver? | 18:08 |
| ranchu | In virtualbox the same build works without issues. | 18:08 |
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| ranchu | I press keyboard and nothing happens. | 18:09 |
| ranchu | I see the first printing during boot, and then it goes to sleep (yet in serial it continue) | 18:09 |
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| ranchu | rburton - any idea ? | 18:10 |
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| ranchu | Do we need to do "IMAGE_INSTALL =" OR "IMAGE_INSTALL +=" | 18:36 |
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| wesam | i am getting this error "command 'x86_64-poky-linux-gcc' failed with exit status 1" when i try building python-pysqlite | 18:43 |
| wesam | does anybody have any idea? | 18:43 |
| wesam | stackoverflow says i need python-dev package but i see no recipe for that | 18:45 |
| wesam | is there a way i can get python dev package | 18:45 |
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| ranchu | does bitbake <pkg> will search the internet if the recipe is missing ? | 18:54 |
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| wesam | oh really | 18:54 |
| wesam | will take a look | 18:54 |
| wesam | i looked through here https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=python-dev | 18:55 |
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| kergoth | wesam: there's no need for any of that. python recipes already depend on the appropriate python bits needed to build, or the recipe is broken | 19:37 |
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| kergoth | and it's the 'python' recipe that matters, python-dev is the name of a debian package | 19:37 |
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| wesam | oh really | 19:41 |
| wesam | i keep getting a python setup.py build execution failed. error when i build python-pysqlite | 19:42 |
| wesam | https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/46576/ | 19:43 |
| wesam | that is the recipe i am using | 19:43 |
| wesam | if you can help that will be amazing | 19:43 |
| kergoth | you need to stop summarizing and give us the exact error | 19:52 |
| kergoth | 'execution failed' tells us absolutely nothing useful | 19:52 |
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| wesam | it gave me a huge log file. this is the main error i see "command 'x86_64-poky-linux-gcc' failed with exit status 1" | 19:55 |
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| kergoth | also not useful. | 19:56 |
| kergoth | use a pastebin to post the entire log (*not* to the irc channel) | 19:57 |
| wesam | where should i send it? | 19:58 |
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| kergoth | https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pastebin | 19:59 |
| kergoth | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin | 19:59 |
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| wesam | http://pastebin.com/MHvEZH1e | 20:07 |
| wesam | there it is, didnt know about pastebin, thats incredibelly convinient | 20:08 |
| jmesmon | wesam: pastebin is really the worst pastebin, despite it's name. | 20:08 |
| wesam | oh really lol | 20:12 |
| wesam | what do you recommend then | 20:12 |
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| themikenicholson | Philosophical question about local.conf - what really belongs there? | 20:24 |
| themikenicholson | It seems like it should onyl be build-system-related things and it shouldn't be impacting what is getting installed in the image or what PACKAGECONFIG args are being set for a particulat package | 20:25 |
| themikenicholson | I'm getting the feeling we are abusing the heck out of our local.conf | 20:25 |
| rburton | themikenicholson: personal changes only, everything else should be in distro config really | 20:26 |
| rburton | or image config etc | 20:26 |
| rburton | custom image recipes, custom distro config, and so on | 20:26 |
| rburton | local.conf should just set distro and any tweaks that *you* want | 20:27 |
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| themikenicholson | personal as in my development tweaks not shared amongst the rest of my development team? | 20:28 |
| themikenicholson | we're doing stuff like adding to IMAGE_INSTALL_append, PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn... | 20:30 |
| themikenicholson | blacklisting packages, etc. | 20:31 |
| themikenicholson | That stuff seems like it belongs in our own distro if I'm understanding docs correctly | 20:31 |
| themikenicholson | or the image for the IMAGE_INSTALL stuff | 20:32 |
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| ranchu | Does the same yocto image recipe can create different images when invoked after some long time again ? | 20:42 |
| rburton | themikenicholson: correct | 20:48 |
| rburton | a minimal local.conf sets TMPDIR MACHINE and DISTRO | 20:49 |
| rburton | then everything else is machine/distro/image specific | 20:49 |
| kanavin_home | sigh | 20:49 |
| kanavin_home | rburton: looks like a lot of the dnf failures are non-determenistic :( | 20:49 |
| themikenicholson | rburton: Thanks | 20:50 |
| ranchu | Does the same yocto image recipe can create different images when invoked after some long time again ? | 20:52 |
| kergoth | ranchu: what do you mean? | 20:53 |
| kergoth | how long it's been since you built last is irrelevent | 20:53 |
| ranchu | I mean if the same "bitbake <image>" can create different rootfs, becuase package were updated in the git somewhere in the net. | 20:54 |
| ranchu | I mean the fetching a pckage can fetch a more update version of the package | 20:55 |
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| kergoth | ranchu: that's only the case for recipes using SRCREV=AUTOREV. 99% of our recipes use explicitly specified versions or commit revisions, not branch head | 20:56 |
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| kergoth | but yes, it'll rebuil dthe image *if* one of the dependent recipes tracks the head of a git branch | 20:56 |
| ranchu | ah, OK, I understand. Thanks | 20:56 |
| kergoth | just most don't. you can run buildhistory-collect-srcrevs to dump specific versions of any such recipes, in a format that you can add to a config file to lock them down, if you don't want it to change | 20:57 |
| ranchu | Right, Thank you. | 20:58 |
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| ranchu | kergoth - I see for example that prefered kernel version in my target is 3.10% . does it mean that it one time can be 3.10.1 and next one 3.10.2 Right ? | 21:01 |
| kergoth | if you update your layers, yes | 21:02 |
| kergoth | if you don't want anything to change, don't pull changes from upstream | 21:02 |
| ranchu | Right. But if I give these layers for someone else, then he might upload other versions... | 21:02 |
| kanavin_home | rburton: would it sound crazy if I say that using kvm with qemu is causing failures with dnf? all of non-x86 arch tests completed fine | 21:03 |
| ranchu | download. not upload. sorry | 21:03 |
| kanavin_home | (except those where the earlier image building step failed) | 21:03 |
| kanavin_home | I need to investigate this further | 21:03 |
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