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| alephan_ | Hi guys! | 07:09 |
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| alephan_ | Anybody awake? | 07:09 |
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| alephan_ | I have a class where I set in a python function (anonymous) a specific variable. This is used. In the image type generation function. For whatever reason, from 0a4e1f968ada5099e3270ed06404d2827e9729aa, this function doesn't set the variable anymore. | 07:12 |
| alephan_ | https://github.com/resin-os/resin-raspberrypi/blob/master/layers/meta-resin-raspberrypi/recipes-core/images/resin-image.bbappend#L16 | 07:13 |
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| alephan_ | This is the code. The variable is RESIN_BOOT_PARTITION_FILES. | 07:13 |
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| Maka_ | Good Morning all ^^ | 07:38 |
| Maka_ | Was wondering if anyone knows a fix for this error: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified | 07:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: and in what context would one see that error? | 07:39 |
| Maka_ | It's trying to run some lines from a makefile, which uses the sudo command. For every sudo command it gives that error | 07:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: then the Makefile is broken and needs fixing. | 07:41 |
| Maka_ | Well its not broken, but its probably not perfectly optimized for Yocto then | 07:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: nope, it is broken. | 07:41 |
| Maka_ | it works on ubuntu, so its not exactly broken right? | 07:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: a Makefile under no circumstances has to decide under which right it gets executed. | 07:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: nope, your interpretation is incorrect. it means that it is broken, but somebody tinkered it long enough that it *almost* works on ubuntu | 07:42 |
| Maka_ | Hmm alright then | 07:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: tell me, why exactly should a Makefile require sudo? | 07:43 |
| Maka_ | Well, it executes command that would normally require sudo | 07:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: nope. it tries to get around some limitations by the rights system. that alone tells me it assumes that it knows/thinks it will do something that needs system privilege. | 07:44 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: and there is exactly *one* operation that a Makefile might need system privileges for: installation. and even there, it is not exactly mandatory. i can easily decide to prefix the installation by my home, therefore do a user install | 07:45 |
| Maka_ | The problem is, once i remove the sudo's it wont work at all | 07:45 |
| Maka_ | So i'll have to find some other way then | 07:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: so if the Makefile thinks it needs system privileges and tries to acquire it automatically, then it is broken by definition. | 07:45 |
| Maka_ | Hmm, alright then, thanks ^^ | 07:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: maybe look at what it tries to do? if it tries to "streamline" the installation by that sudo, then just throw it out, and have the user explicitly execute it as privileged | 07:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | if it does something else, it is very, very fishy | 07:47 |
| Maka_ | What it does, is unpack a tar, and try to do a make, depmod, mv, ln, mkdir, cp and sed | 07:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | *sigh* | 07:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | then look at the steps, find out which are system cricital, provide a make target for them that then is explicitly documented to use system privilege | 07:49 |
| Maka_ | Could i provide these steps in my recipe? | 07:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | but a Makefile that requires sudo sounds like it has been written by somebody who thinks that all the linux world behaves just like his ubuntu desktop. (which is not exactly true) | 07:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | of course you can | 07:50 |
| Maka_ | Hmm, the thing is, i have yet to find a good tutorial/example how to write these recipes, especially the do_xxxx functions | 07:51 |
| Maka_ | You send me some links before | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | its just that a makefile who shows such assumptions is prone to be broken in other ways too. e.g. not repecting paths, prefixes, architectures, etc. | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | Maka_: the complete how-to-write-your-own-recipe is at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#new-recipe-writing-a-new-recipe | 07:52 |
| Maka_ | Yea i've seen it multiple times, and sadly still don't get it ._. | 07:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | and always remember to look up comparable recipes, preferred from oe-core as they are probably the best maintained. | 07:53 |
| Maka_ | Yea i've been doing that ^^ | 07:53 |
| Maka_ | I'll just keep trying some more stuff for now | 07:53 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:52 |
| maka__ | Morning ^^ | 08:52 |
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| sveinse | We are building three rootfs for three different MACHINES (same tune) by running the same bitbake target three times. Now I want to bundle them into a common image for distribution. Now should I implement this outside bitbake, or can I run three different MACHINE builds from bitbake (Jethro)? | 09:56 |
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| RobbinParrish_ | Hello All, I am trying to compile the Mariadb 10.1.21 using the cross-compile in Yocto. During the compilation of the mariadb its failed with the error says "make[2]: *** No rule to make target sql/gen_lex_hash', needed by 'sql/lex_hash.h'. Stop." The manual compilation just worked fine but cross-compile doesn't. I am using Fedora-24 as my host system. Any hint or a quick help will be very helpful. | 10:00 |
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| jku | RobbinParrish_: I know nothing about mariadb, so be warned... gen_lex_hash is a binary that needs to be run at build time (and oviously using a target version on your fedora doesn't work so the build system doesn't even try to build it when cross compiling). | 10:07 |
| jku | RobbinParrish_: if there's no way around this build tool requirement, you'll probably have to make a native recipe that provides gen_lex_hash, and make mariadb depend on that | 10:09 |
| jku | RobbinParrish_: ... now that I look in meta-oe, this is exactly what the mariadb 5.5.52 recipes do: http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-support/mysql | 10:11 |
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| RobbinParrish_ | jku: Thank you very much for the quick reply. I really appreciate it. Yes thats right. FYI I have created two recipes one is mariadb-native and other is mariadb only. The mariadb-native depends on the mariadb recipe. FYI the mariadb-native works fine it get compiled, installed and sysroot task also completed successfully. However during the do_compile of the Mariadb recipe I am getting the above error. | 10:17 |
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| RobbinParrish_ | jku: Yes thats correct, FYI I have created this recipes thats based on the "mariadb 5.5.52 recipes" from meta-oe but I have made some changes in prior to make it work for me. | 10:18 |
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| Saur | RP: Has the name of the successor to Pyro been announced yet? | 11:19 |
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| RP | Saur: not yet, I need to decide and do that | 11:22 |
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| rburton | joshuagl: have you made the AB changes that wic needs? | 11:38 |
| jku | RobbinParrish_: oh then it might just be you need to patch out the DEPENDS line from the CMakelists.txt | 11:39 |
| joshuagl | rburton: not deployed yet | 11:39 |
| rburton | ok | 11:40 |
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| joshuagl | rburton: take it you've seen the same failures in a recent build? | 11:51 |
| * joshuagl had a vague recollection from a past discussion that we wouldn't need to change the AB for wic | 11:52 | |
| rburton | joshuagl: wic patches on the list break with current AB | 11:52 |
| rburton | something about required dependencies | 11:53 |
| rburton | it should be building wic-tools instead of the bits individually, or something | 11:53 |
| rburton | i suspect we need to do a layer version compare to know what to build though... | 11:53 |
| rburton | (speak to ed2) | 11:53 |
| joshuagl | rburton: right, but I thought wic-tools had been required for a while because of rss | 11:53 |
| joshuagl | yeah, the change I have queued checks layer version | 11:54 |
| ed2 | rburton: which patches? Last time i saw the failure it was caused by AB. | 11:56 |
| rburton | yeah exactly | 11:56 |
| rburton | your patches were breaking because the ab wasnt doing the right thing | 11:56 |
| RobbinParrish_ | jku: sorry but honestly I didnt understand what that mean to patchout in the CMakelists.txt? | 11:59 |
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| jku | RobbinParrish_: the ADD_CUSTOM_COMMAND portion that builds lex_hash.h has the line "DEPENDS gen_lex_hash": it probably should not in cross compile case | 12:01 |
| jku | this is in mariadb sql/CMakeLists.txt | 12:02 |
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| RobbinParrish_ | jku: Yes thats true its being added as dependecies. Thanks, got it let me try to create a patch to validate it. | 12:06 |
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| rburton | BORED waiting for new linux-yocto to download | 12:18 |
| rburton | zeddii: please can we have shallow clones :) | 12:18 |
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| maka__ | Everytime i set my PACKAGE_CLASSES to package_deb it gives me: Debian package install does not support BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS | 12:29 |
| maka__ | Anyone knows why | 12:29 |
| maka__ | ?* | 12:29 |
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| LetoThe2nd | maka__: maybe because the deb package format does not support bad recommendations? sounds like its a rpm specific thing. so something you use is in turn trying to do something rpm specific | 12:33 |
| rburton | maka__: because package_deb does not support BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS and you're building something which needs it | 12:33 |
| rburton | opkg supports it too | 12:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: ah interesting | 12:33 |
| rburton | really, package_deb is the worst choice. opkg and rpm are better supported. | 12:34 |
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| maka__ | So if i add opkg its fine or..? | 12:34 |
| rburton | you'd need to change PACKAGE_CLASSES | 12:35 |
| rburton | package_deb isn't the default so you must have changed it in the first place | 12:35 |
| maka__ | Correct | 12:35 |
| maka__ | Since im trying something with .deb files, and everywere i read i should use package_deb then | 12:36 |
| maka__ | But it seems it doesn't work | 12:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka__: you are messing up things (again). just because a lot of the software you try to install comes as deb (which is bad enough), it does not mean that using deb as your package format is a godd choice when dealing with OW | 12:37 |
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| maka__ | It seems i'm always messing things up haha | 12:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka__: if you really want or need to stick with those obscure packages, generating your own distro won't work anyways. run debian or ubuntu, then. | 12:38 |
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| maka__ | Sadly i have to stick to these packages yea, and also to yocto, so yea | 12:42 |
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| rburton | sticking to the packages is easy enough - just unpack the deb and get the contents out | 12:45 |
| rburton | as said, that's unrelated to your package manager choice. i'd recommend rpm if you intend to do on-target upgrades in the field, otherwise opkg as its simplier. | 12:46 |
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| maka__ | rburton: and what do i do with the unpacked deb? | 12:58 |
| rburton | maka__: get the contents out and install them to get it repackaged | 12:58 |
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| maka__ | How do you mean that exactly? sorry if i seem like an idiot.. | 12:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | you need a native dpkg, and use that to unpack. then repack through a manually carved do_install function | 13:01 |
| rburton | do_unpack will partially open up a deb anyway | 13:01 |
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| rburton | unpack the rest and mkdir/install in your do_install() | 13:01 |
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| maka__ | Alrright, thanks ^^ | 13:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | and while you're at it, have a thorough look at the dependencies, arch, etc. too. otherwise you will have them repackages, but the binaries won't work. | 13:04 |
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| maka__ | Alright, will do | 13:05 |
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| zip__ | Hi all! i have a question but i dont know if here is the right place to ask for | 13:22 |
| zip__ | im working with yocto and i need to run a custom distro on my rpi3 | 13:22 |
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| zip__ | i have no problem with this | 13:23 |
| zip__ | my problem is that i cant decompress the extended attributes and then make the rpi boot | 13:23 |
| zip__ | it gets stuck at Uboot terminal | 13:23 |
| zip__ | you know any tutorial or something to solve this problem? | 13:23 |
| zip__ | many thanks | 13:23 |
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| zip__ | maybe adding this lines to local.conf? IMAGE_CMD_TAR = "tar --xattrs-include='*'" IMAGE_DEPENDS_tar_append = " tar-replacement-native" EXTRANATIVEPATH += "tar-native" | 13:46 |
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| jobro | mrpelotazo: Which archive file is the right one to load it to the root partition ? | 13:51 |
| binarym | jobro: .ext4 | 13:55 |
| binarym | using dd if=.ext4 of=partition | 13:55 |
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| rburton | jku: ready for another mission? the useradd/pseudo thing is driving me insane. there's a path in useradd postinst which points into the recipe sysroot. | 14:18 |
| rburton | (PSEUDO_PASSWD) | 14:18 |
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| jku | rburton: I'm missing a bit of context | 14:24 |
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| rburton | huh thought i'd filed a bug | 14:25 |
| rburton | jku: the useradd class generates postinsts to make the users. the bit of it that runs at image rootfs time tells pseudo to use a passwd file in the sysroot, but as we don't have "the" sysroot now it points at the recipe's sysroot. not only may this not exist at rootfs time, but it changes every time the recipe version changes. | 14:27 |
| rburton | i suspect we just need to delete or rethink this code | 14:27 |
| rburton | if maxin is around, he has a bit of experience in that class | 14:27 |
| jku | right | 14:27 |
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| jku | rburton: so what's the problem, as in what part here drives you insane ? | 14:33 |
| jku | do we not actually get a real passwd file when rootfs is generated? | 14:36 |
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| rburton | jku: drives me insane becuase i get a page-long chunk in buildhistory-diff :) | 14:37 |
| rburton | but its also just not working because the recipe sysroot may not be there anymore | 14:38 |
| jku | oh yeah if it points not to the image sysroot but the "package" sysroot | 14:39 |
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| kanavin | I don't get it, why not run user/group management commands against the image rootfs? | 14:41 |
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| rburton | it used to point to the global rootfs but the assumptions there are all invalid now | 14:42 |
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| kanavin | I mean, postinsts are all executed at image rootfs time, and with a bit of effort you can point the native commands you want to run to execute against that | 14:43 |
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| jku | kanavin: it's just that the actual recipe that wants a new user sets PSEUDO_PASSWD to a bogus value. maxin promised to handle at least that bit | 14:46 |
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| kanavin | jku: I still don't see why useradd.bbclass needs to be so complicated | 14:48 |
| georgem | I need to try out the per recipe sysroot stuff with all of my internal layers, loads of stuff is bound to break. | 14:48 |
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| rburton | georgem: going by how badly meta-oe broke, yes :) | 14:48 |
| jku | kanavin it probably does not | 14:48 |
| georgem | rburton: hehe | 14:48 |
| georgem | kanavin: it drives me nuts too but not sure I can think of a better way to handle it that accounts for all of the covered use cases. | 14:49 |
| kanavin | georgem: what are the use cases? | 14:50 |
| georgem | For anyone doing image based upgrades and not allowing optional package installation at runtime I think they'd generally be better off just hand writing a passwd, group file. | 14:50 |
| georgem | kanavin: one of the trickier ones is installing a package at runtime. the required users, groups for the package must be added into passwd, group. | 14:51 |
| kanavin | georgem: so you call useradd, what is the problem? | 14:52 |
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| georgem | kanavin: well, that's what it does | 14:53 |
| georgem | it also has to worry about uid, gid collisions of course | 14:53 |
| georgem | and then there is the provision for static uids, gids | 14:54 |
| georgem | it really gets screwy when multiple packages require the same user, group | 14:55 |
| kanavin | won't useradd tell you when you try to add a uid or user that already exists? | 14:57 |
| georgem | yeah | 14:58 |
| kanavin | then you treat that as an error, no? | 14:59 |
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| georgem | kanavin: it checks if the user already exists before trying to add it. and no it's not an error if it already exists. two packages can create the same user. | 15:02 |
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| kanavin | georgem: so what gets screwy then? | 15:04 |
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| georgem | kanavin: Though if you remove one of those packages it might remove the user even though the other package still needs it. Can't remember. | 15:04 |
| georgem | There have been changes to that in the last year and I have hard time keeping up with exactly how it works at any given time :) | 15:05 |
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| kanavin | georgem: I'll take code that can be understood over code that handles all the use cases :) | 15:06 |
| georgem | kanavin: yeah, I understand where you're coming from. and most people say this until it's a use case they care about :) | 15:06 |
| kanavin | georgem: then they should write their own code to handle it, and not force it into oe-core | 15:07 |
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| georgem | kanavin: at least until recently (I haven't tested with recipe specific sysroot yet) it worked relatively well (apart from some fringe usecases that you've stated you don't care about) so there wasn't really a need to simplify it. | 15:12 |
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| justanotherboy | rburton: I saw your comment in bug for '\n' in DESCRIPTION for opkg. Isn't better to let know the user about the issue instead of silently replace '\n' for '.'? | 15:22 |
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| rburton | justanotherboy: not if opkg does what dpkg does and say to embed newlines, add a '.' on its own. | 15:34 |
| justanotherboy | rburton: OK, let me work on that then | 15:36 |
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| geoffrey_l | Hi, I'm currently having trouble to understand how sstates and setscenes actually works behind, anybody have an hint for where to search ? | 15:46 |
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| kanavin | geoffrey_l: maybe meta/classes/sstate.bbclass? | 15:51 |
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| mborzecki | i'm trying to do_populate_sdk_ext but I'm getting an error due to core-image-minimal/1.0-r0/locked-sigs.inc not being created, is this file supposed to be created automaticaly or sth? | 15:53 |
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| mborzecki | I can generate it manually through `bitbake -S none core-image-minimal` but I'm guessing it's supposed to be done automatically during do_populate_sdk_ext | 15:55 |
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| rburton | mborzecki: i predict you've got rm_work enabled | 15:56 |
| mborzecki | indeed, remove it? | 15:56 |
| rburton | (discovered this on friday) | 15:56 |
| rburton | yeah | 15:56 |
| mborzecki | thx, checking :) | 15:56 |
| rburton | i filed a bug, but thinking about it the likely default assignee is on paternity leave | 15:56 |
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| geoffrey_l | kanavin: Thanks. I still don't understand how it's linked to bitbake since sstate are present in bitbake code, but I will try to figure it with that. | 15:59 |
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| kanavin | rburton: will you be able to do another full AB pass of the dnf branch later tonight? | 16:05 |
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| kanavin | (not yet) | 16:05 |
| kanavin | regardless of results, I will ignore them for two weeks, promise :) | 16:05 |
| kanavin | but I almost have finished fixing everything that was reported in the previous run | 16:06 |
| mborzecki | rburton: many thanks, populate_sdk_ext worked this time | 16:06 |
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| rburton | anyone apart from bluelightning understand eSDK generation? | 16:08 |
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| kergoth | denix: is the best way to get the revisions / tags of meta-ti corresponding to a particular processor sdk version to just check the config file used by the oe-layertool-setup? I noticed the ti version tags don't correspond to processor sdk release versioning | 16:13 |
| kergoth | meh, need more coffee | 16:13 |
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| mborzecki | hmm still don't understand why *-native are not taken from sstate cache, identical revisions of layers, identical config, both using poky (uninative?), still most (all) of *-native packages are getting rebuilt on the other host | 16:16 |
| kergoth | bitbake -S printdiff is your friend | 16:16 |
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| RP | rburton: me, but I suspect that isn't the answer you were looking for :/ | 16:25 |
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| rburton | RP: i think i can blame the AB :O | 16:26 |
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| kanavin | rburton: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=akanavin/dnf-rpm4 is ready :) | 16:27 |
| kanavin | hopefully it's not worse than the previous time :D | 16:27 |
| rburton | haha | 16:27 |
| rburton | high hopes | 16:28 |
| kanavin | like I said, any result will be ignored for two weeks :) | 16:28 |
| mborzecki | kergoth: thx, actually this is a bit unexpected, printdiff lists do_fetch of all packages :/ | 16:28 |
| mborzecki | i guees that's why everything is getting rebuilt | 16:29 |
| * kanavin ---> tea time | 16:29 | |
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| mborzecki | hmm something fishy, it's trying to fetch files from my SSTATE_MIRROR[S] but i'm seeing this: | 16:39 |
| mborzecki | DEBUG: For url file://63/sstate:acl:arm1176jzfshf-vfp-poky-linux-gnueabi:2.2.52:r0:arm1176jzfshf-vfp:3:63308c495378a3449a106ab9bced49ac_packagedata.tgz returning http://1 | 16:39 |
| mborzecki | 72.27.0.30:9009/sstate-cache/63/sstate%3Aacl%3Aarm1176jzfshf-vfp-poky-linux-gnueabi%3A2.2.52%3Ar0%3Aarm1176jzfshf-vfp%3A3%3A63308c495378a3449a106ab9bced49ac_packagedata.t | 16:39 |
| mborzecki | gz | 16:39 |
| mborzecki | DEBUG: checkstatus() urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor> | 16:39 |
| mborzecki | obvioulsy works with wget | 16:42 |
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| mborzecki | in case anyone is wondering, serving sstate cache via python3 -m http.server is a really bad idea | 16:55 |
| khem | rburton: there ? | 16:58 |
| khem | rburton: your go-cross error is new to me but I see it has been seen before in go world | 16:59 |
| khem | rburton: whats the best way to reproduce it I wonder | 16:59 |
| khem | I have arch/ubuntu14.04/centos7 boxes and did not see it | 16:59 |
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| mborzecki | khem: iirc we might have seen something similar in mender, let me take a look | 17:02 |
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| mborzecki | khem: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-January/131659.html | 17:03 |
| khem | mborzecki: ok, | 17:03 |
| khem | mborzecki: how did you solve it | 17:03 |
| khem | other places they seem to have it fixed with another box install so it seems its related to box/os | 17:04 |
| khem | but there must be a root cause for it | 17:04 |
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| mborzecki | khem: https://github.com/mem/oe-meta-go/commit/fc6d8ac2951aa4548c2e1c67d1f3437eb2a8981f | 17:05 |
| wesam | umm i deleted my initramfs files and bitbake now is giving me an error | 17:06 |
| wesam | what should i do | 17:06 |
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| mborzecki | khem: quite postive this is the patch :) there's an accompanying change in poky as well: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=2313a77d8474c742e1cd8cee246f6c05847dd3c6 | 17:07 |
| wesam | the ones located in tmp/deploy/images/intel-corei7-64/ | 17:07 |
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| majuk | Hello hello. I see a lot of references to Dizzy as a stable branch. Is there a more recent stable branch? | 17:24 |
| khem | mborzecki: ok, let me see | 17:24 |
| denix | kergoth: yes, processor sdk releases do correspond to meta-ti/meta-arago tags and you can double-check which tags were used in config files of oe-layersetup | 17:24 |
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| kergoth | denix: okay, thanks, appreciated. is there a timeline as to when the release will happen which includes the 4.9 kernel, by chance? | 17:27 |
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| denix | kergoth: I'm cutting rc2 tag later today. will be rc3 and rc4 each week and the final tag will be in about 3 weeks. that's 2017.00, which is a baseline on morty and 4.9 kernel. official releases will follow after that, as it will take them time for collateral and documentation... | 17:38 |
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| * kergoth nods | 17:38 | |
| kergoth | okay, thanks | 17:38 |
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| denix | kergoth: are you interested in anything in particular I can help you with? | 17:40 |
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| rburton | majuk: only four :) https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases | 18:37 |
| rburton | (pyro is in development now) | 18:37 |
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| majuk | rburton: Man, I tried rolling up Chromium on the Krogoth branch and the thing was a house of cards. It ran but seg faulted at random. | 18:44 |
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| majuk | Just as likely user error as anything else, it would be a stretch to say I know what I'm doing. | 18:44 |
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| majuk | I'm rolling up a Jethro build as we speak, see if it's any better. | 18:45 |
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| _Ben | Has anybody added PyOpenCL to a build before? | 18:59 |
| ed2 | rburton: i still don't see any of my 27 patches in ross/mut. Any chance to get them there? | 19:04 |
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| rburton | ed2: they'll be in shortly. is ed/wic/wip still the brnach to pull? | 19:55 |
| ed2 | rburton: thanks. yes, you can pull from ed/wic/wip | 19:56 |
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| khem | rburton: just sent a v2 of go patch, it is a single patch as you suggested and has a potential fix for error you are seeing | 20:08 |
| khem | http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=kraj/go&id=76b3dc7000fa5940fedb3fcebccd9d23b0b46047 | 20:08 |
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| rburton | khem: great | 20:22 |
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| khem | rburton: I am hoping to get this going before m3 cutoff | 20:37 |
| rburton | khem: RP is keen, so i'll try it now | 20:39 |
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| khem | ok | 20:42 |
| khem | yes we talked about it last week in Portland | 20:42 |
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| zeddii_home | the next challenge will be the horrible way that go dependencies are dealt with and that most packages are sneaking out in the background and downloading things. | 20:51 |
| rburton | anything on the AB will fail there as we need a proxy to get to internet | 20:53 |
| zeddii_home | I didn’t check the latest version, it may not have anything that does that. | 20:53 |
| zeddii_home | but let’s just say ,there are lots of crimes in more complicated packages. I spent more than a day packaging dependencies last week. | 20:54 |
| bluelightning | the model we have done for nodejs shouldn't be followed, IMO... it's been a real struggle :( | 20:54 |
| zeddii_home | yah. it is about as fun as packing a zillion pypi modules just to make the build deps available. go is simply horrible how it does it IMHO. | 20:55 |
| bluelightning | most of these lang-specific packaging solutions are similar in their behaviour | 20:55 |
| bluelightning | latest is best, always connect to the net... | 20:55 |
| zeddii_home | yah. go clones and checks them out locally in a gopath. | 20:56 |
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| bluelightning | personally I'd like to see a common framework for supporting these kinds of things through the metadata, if that's practical | 20:56 |
| zeddii_home | agreed. I did a docker fix by using a multi SRCREV SRC_URI. but that is something that could be described generally for all the dependencies. | 20:57 |
| zeddii_home | since if I package them all up, eventually you’ll get two packages looking for different REVs, and then things get messy with specificying multiple versions of the same dependency, etc, etc. | 20:57 |
| RP | bluelightning: how do you handle mirroring then? | 20:58 |
| bluelightning | RP: the fetcher still has to be involved | 20:59 |
| RP | bluelightning: I do like the idea of using BBCLASSEXTEND somehow for these, or some similar mechanism | 20:59 |
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| bluelightning | that might be a nice idea, but I'm not sure it really helps beyond providing a means of having one recipe represent the multiple underlying packages | 21:00 |
| RP | bluelightning: or a generated layer | 21:00 |
| bluelightning | plus it would mean parsing would trigger a repo query | 21:00 |
| RP | bluelightning: so what do we need then? I'm not sure I understand the problem | 21:00 |
| bluelightning | having to have this support for each language-specific packaging solution in bitbake's fetcher code is really painful | 21:01 |
| bluelightning | it belongs in the same place as the support for that language-specific packaging solution is provided, i.e. the layer where the recipes for it are provided | 21:01 |
| RP | bluelightning: fwiw rust are trying to do a fetcher module in their layer. They have it working bar one problem which they agreed to talk to me about | 21:02 |
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| bluelightning | ok, I'd be interested to see that | 21:04 |
| bluelightning | I suspect not all of the languages will require as hard a battle as we've had with npm... that's been a nightmare :( | 21:04 |
| bluelightning | and it's still broken | 21:04 |
| bluelightning | (worse in master, but it's on my todo list to fix...) | 21:05 |
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| zeddii_home | after fighting with go packaging, I was wishing for the sweet embrace of kernel complexities again. | 21:06 |
| bluelightning | haha | 21:07 |
| sveinse | Is there a way in krogoth to run multiple builds? that is multiple MACHINE= but same target? | 21:08 |
| bluelightning | sveinse: not concurrently in the same TMPDIR, no... that's multiconfig which only came in in the next release | 21:09 |
| sveinse | We are building three images (different MACHINEs, same tune), and want to bundle this into a common installer. Question is if I can build this bundling into a yocto recipe, or if I need to handle this outside yocto | 21:09 |
| sveinse | bluelightning: ah, allright | 21:09 |
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| inkspell4 | Hello, I was curious if this is the best place, or if there is a better place to ask questions about things regarding yocto (such as why something isnt working) | 21:25 |
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| majuk | inkspell4: Asking to ask a question is always a bad start. | 21:31 |
| inkspell4 | majuk: valid point, I just wasnt sure if this is more of a developer or user space | 21:32 |
| inkspell4 | majuk: I'm running into a kernel build issue that I have tried to debug and reached a dead end. Essentially using meta-xilinx to build a kernel my custom kernel config fragment is applied and built for qemu-zynq7 but is applied and not build for the microzed-zynq7 | 21:34 |
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| rburton | hm should core-image-lsb-sdk ship with 700mb of kernel sources? | 22:26 |
| paulg | would have figured anything SDK would have been happy with headers and not a full git clone | 22:28 |
| paulg | that must be history free to fit in 700MB. | 22:29 |
| paulg | (as in "rm -rf .git" kind of history free...) | 22:29 |
| rburton | yeah not sure why it ships the full source | 22:31 |
| rburton | tempted to save 700mb by ripping that out | 22:32 |
| paulg | might as well, and then see what breaks. :) | 22:34 |
| paulg | wonder if you'd see the same thing in any of the build appliance images. | 22:34 |
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