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| fqtw | hey | 12:47 |
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| fqtw | is it true that yocto is binary compatible with raspberry pi? that i can compile a binary on rpi and move it to a yocto system and it will run? | 12:48 |
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| rburton | fqtw: that's not really a valid question | 12:54 |
| rburton | raspberry pi is a hardware board | 12:54 |
| jku | fqtw: that doesn't make a lot of sense, yocto is not an OS or even a distro. Even if you pick an OS built with yocto the answer would be "no, there's no guarantee it would work" | 12:54 |
| fqtw | rburton: raspbian | 12:54 |
| rburton | do you mean is yocto compatible with raspian? | 12:54 |
| fqtw | yes | 12:54 |
| rburton | in that case, dunno. :) | 12:54 |
| fqtw | both are arm | 12:55 |
| rburton | glibc versions won't match | 12:55 |
| rburton | which may lead to problems depending on what one has a newer glibc | 12:55 |
| rburton | etc etc | 12:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | you might have a chance when doing something statically linked. in every other case, i'd say "no" | 12:56 |
| rburton | (it's not at all easy to build a binary on fedora and run it on debian, either) | 12:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | exactly, and the more complicated the binary is, the smaller the chances of it working flawlessly. | 12:57 |
| fqtw | rburton: ok, then i change my question to: will Rust work on yocto? https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/rustup.rs/#other-installation-methods | 12:59 |
| fqtw | (it works on my raspberry pi) | 13:00 |
| rburton | fqtw: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-rust/ | 13:00 |
| rburton | (yes, rust will work. install it by hand if you want, or use the layer) | 13:00 |
| fqtw | rburton: why/when should i use the layer | 13:01 |
| fqtw | and what is a 'layer' in this context? | 13:01 |
| jku | fqtw: if you are building a yocto image and want rust on it, you should use the layer | 13:03 |
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| fqtw | jku: ok, so if i want to build applications for existing embedded devices running a yocto image that the OEM installed (which i dont have), i should make a similar yocto image with the rust layer and use that to compile my application, then copy it over? | 13:04 |
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| jku | that might work (and you wouldn't need to make and use an image, you'd just use the build system to build your app) but since you don't know the exact details of what the OEM is building, you are bound to have some of the same kind of issues as using any other OS... | 13:12 |
| fqtw | jku: by build system do you mean cross compiling? | 13:15 |
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| jku | fqtw: I mean yocto tools as whole but yes | 13:19 |
| fqtw | jku: but dont i have to create an image with the rust layer if i want to use rust? | 13:19 |
| fqtw | and then run that image on qemu or similar? | 13:19 |
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| jku | fqtw: you can do that if you want but the point of a cross-compile build system like yocto is that you should not have to | 13:24 |
| fqtw | jku: ok, but will it work with the rust layer? | 13:26 |
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| jku | yocto + meta-rust will allow you to build rust apps, yes. Can the binaries be made to work on the mystery image your OEM made? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 13:29 |
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| fqtw | jku: i mean, on what system should i run meta-rust if not on a yocto image on qemu or similar? | 13:30 |
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| jku | fqtw: the yocto development manual talks about yocto requirements (as well as adding new layers) | 13:37 |
| fqtw | jku: is it possible to find out the exact config that the OEM used to build the yocto image? | 13:38 |
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| rburton | fqtw: you'd need to ask the OEM | 13:43 |
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| themikenicholson | Running into an issue with populate_sdk_ext since upgrading to morty | 14:14 |
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| themikenicholson | When running it I get the error: "ERROR: uninative-tarball-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk: kernel-devsrc not found in the feeds () in /home/me/.../tmp/deploy/rpm" | 14:15 |
| themikenicholson | Trying to figure out why uninative-tarball is looking for kernel-devsrc... | 14:19 |
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| themikenicholson | Ah, looks like it was because a dev added this to one of our conf files: "TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK_append = " kernel-devsrc"" | 14:59 |
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| maka | Heya | 15:07 |
| maka | Anyone knows if it is possible to edit packae versions? | 15:08 |
| maka | package* | 15:08 |
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| rtechgeek | does anyone recommend a good resource for configuring wifi on wandboard quad? | 15:10 |
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| LetoThe2nd | maka: what do you mean by "edit package versions" | 15:13 |
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| themikenicholson | maka: Is this what you're looking for? http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.2/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#incrementing-a-package-revision-number | 15:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | themikenicholson: while it is a good point, i'm relatively sure that this is not what maka is looking for. | 15:17 |
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| themikenicholson | LetoThe2nd: Literal interpretation of the question :) | 15:23 |
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| maka | LetoThe2nd: well, a package im trying to install has a dependency, which is installed. But the package version is <none> | 15:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | maka: the package version is "none"? | 15:35 |
| maka | yes | 15:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka: where is the package version "none"? | 15:35 |
| maka | apt-cache policy | 15:36 |
| maka | so it's installed, yet it has no version | 15:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | apt? | 15:36 |
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| LetoThe2nd | *sigh* runtime package management it seems to be. | 15:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | in that case, themikenicholson might actually have been right | 15:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | themikenicholson: i totally apologize! | 15:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | maka: explanation: find out what gets injected into the package, and it probably is ${PV} | 15:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | for the sake of reproductibility though, i totally recommend to *not* *use* runtime package management | 15:40 |
| maka | Alright then, ill see if that works ^^ | 15:41 |
| fqtw | jku: does yocto cross compilation only work from linux or also from windows? | 15:44 |
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| themikenicholson | If I want a package - say kernel-devsrc to appear in the SDK but not in my target image/sdcard is there a way to do that besides creating seperate my-image and my-image-sdk recipes? | 15:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | fqtw: i can be done under windows with a lot of magic (read up on CROPS), but in general - stick to linux and save yourself the pain | 15:46 |
| fqtw | ok | 15:46 |
| fqtw | LetoThe2nd: where's the best place to start? | 15:48 |
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| fqtw | for learning how to cross compile for yocto | 15:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | fqtw: besides obviously the quick start document? https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html | 15:49 |
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| fqtw | thx | 15:49 |
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| fqtw | LetoThe2nd: can i only cross compile applications into images? | 15:51 |
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| fqtw | i just want to cross compile an application for an existing / running image | 15:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | fqtw: you would at least need a toolchain fitting that image. | 15:52 |
| fqtw | ok | 15:53 |
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| pohly | RP: who is working on enhancing the sstate samesigs tests? | 16:10 |
| pohly | I've looked at the current sstatestests.py and sstate_allarch_samesigs in particular and have some suggestions for improvements. | 16:10 |
| pohly | The version of the test that I added to Ostro differs a bit: a) it compares several real MACHINEs (because we had the problem between Edison and intel-core2-32) and b) when there is an undesirable difference, it automatically dumps the diff with bitbake-diffsigs. | 16:13 |
| RP | pohly: you wrote the code to traceback to the root cause sig difference? | 16:15 |
| RP | pohly: I don't think anyone has a direct assignment for that now other than perhaps me being aware it needs work | 16:15 |
| RP | pohly: printdiff is *supposed* to handle this | 16:15 |
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| pohly | RP: if the tests fail, they fail in self.assertEqual(files1, files2) | 16:22 |
| pohly | And the files are cleaned up after a failure, so one doesn't have an easy way of debugging the failure either. | 16:23 |
| pohly | We had exactly the same thing in Ostro, that's why I added more verbose output. | 16:23 |
| pohly | It's not exactly tracing the root cause, just running bitbake-diffsigs on tasks which should have had the same hash. | 16:24 |
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| pohly | RP: you mentioned something about reusing these tests for Yocto compliance testing. Who is working on that? | 16:26 |
| pohly | Same answer, i.e. you know it needs to be done, but no-one assigned at the moment? | 16:26 |
| RP | pohly: oh, Anibal has been doing that | 16:28 |
| RP | pohly: alimon | 16:28 |
| RP | pohly: if the sigs don't match for a large number of tasks, that would be quite some output to look through but probably better than none at all at the moment I guess | 16:29 |
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| pohly | RP: one can always truncate the output. | 16:32 |
| pohly | alimon: are you planning to submit enhancements for sstatetests.py, or did you copy the code to somewhere else? | 16:33 |
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| RP | pohly: alimon has a patch on the list for the compatible tests | 16:57 |
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| pohly | "yocto-compat-layer.py: Add script to YP Compatible Layer validation" - got it. | 17:00 |
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| alimon | pohly: i don't reused code from sstate.py, for signature checking i called bitbake -S none and got the information from the inc file | 17:07 |
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| pohly | alimon: okay, so if I enhance the selftest my changes won't conflict with yours. | 17:10 |
| pohly | Now I vaguely remember that you already got the suggestion to add bitbake-diffsig output, right? | 17:11 |
| alimon | pohly: yes RP told me about that option | 17:11 |
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| RP | pohly: bitbake -S printdiff specifically | 17:17 |
| RP | pohly: sadly there are bugs in that :( | 17:18 |
| Crofton|work | No! | 17:21 |
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| khem | rburton: what is the box config which is failing this build | 18:35 |
| rburton | khem: debian mostly stable | 18:35 |
| khem | rburton: is it on AB ? | 18:35 |
| khem | since I have ubuntu 16.04 which should be similar to debian | 18:36 |
| khem | it does not show this issue | 18:36 |
| rburton | no, its my machine | 18:36 |
| khem | rburton: then it does not matter :) | 18:36 |
| khem | have you customized it ? | 18:37 |
| khem | no nver heard of it | 18:39 |
| khem | oops wrong window | 18:39 |
| khem | rburton: I would need a way to reproduce the problem | 18:40 |
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| khem | is it due to debian turning on PIE | 18:40 |
| khem | may be | 18:40 |
| khem | dont know | 18:40 |
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| khem | rburton: does your box has go installtions | 18:45 |
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| mborzecki | khem: FYI kristian is on vacation atm | 19:18 |
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| rburton | khem: nope | 19:57 |
| jmesmon | Is there a way to retrieve a package version while generating an image? (iow: get the version number of a package being included in the image). I'd like to use that version number in a piece of the image generation. Perhaps some way to use Manifest in meta/lib/oe/manifest.py is the right choice? | 20:00 |
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| Yahia | Hello, I've built a custom image for Raspberry Pi and | 20:37 |
| Yahia | Hello, I've built a custom image for Raspberry Pi with a psplash splash screen and I want to change the splash screen without rebuilding the image, is this possible? | 20:38 |
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| khem | rburton: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-January/131951.html and http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-January/131952.html | 20:51 |
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| khem | are still peinding | 20:51 |
| khem | Yahia: I think there is .psplash diretory in /opt | 20:51 |
| khem | rburton: can you try a build with out sstate-cache | 20:52 |
| khem | rburton: and see if that works | 20:52 |
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| Yahia | khem: thank you very much for your reply, unfortunately I had all my temp files deleted and I'll have to build the image all over again. | 21:01 |
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| khem | rburton: so I did cleansstate go-cross-x86_64 and then deleted tmp and rebuilt go-cross-x86_64 | 21:17 |
| khem | it still built fine here | 21:17 |
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| denix | any easy way to force package rebuild w/o using sstate mirror? | 21:41 |
| kergoth | denix: running into the issue where cleansstate just removes the local file and it redownloads from the mirror? | 21:42 |
| denix | kergoth: yep | 21:42 |
| kergoth | 1. bitbake —no-setscene, or 2. bitbake -C fetch <targets> to taint early and force them to rebuild from scratch, though that requires a clean first, unlike cleansstate | 21:43 |
| kergoth | that's how i usually deal with it | 21:43 |
| denix | kergoth: ok, I'll try. thanks! | 21:43 |
| kergoth | np | 21:44 |
| kergoth | denix: and no, don't need any help in particular, thanks though (replying from the other day), just working on updating our beaglebone support | 21:45 |
| denix | kergoth: sure, let me know if you need anything | 21:46 |
| kergoth | will do, thanks | 21:46 |
| denix | btw, should bitbake handle single Ctrl-C gracefully? | 21:46 |
| denix | I had to cancel the build, pressed Ctrl-C and waited for it to finish remaining tasks, but it appears sstate ended up picking up incomplete packages for some reason. now I need to re-build those | 21:47 |
| kergoth | huh, that definitely shouldn't happen | 21:47 |
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| denix | I'm guessing "make install" got interrupted and some files were not installed. now sstate ends up serving incomplete packages. just re-built from scratch one of those and all files and packages now present | 21:49 |
| denix | I'd expect sstate+stamps to prevent that... | 21:51 |
| kergoth | have to remember that bitbake knows how to re-run tasks, but not how to clean out anything remnant that was left behind byt he previous run, unless the task does that itself, or hte underlying upstream buildsystem | 21:53 |
| kergoth | should fix the recipe to address cases like that, where appropriate | 21:53 |
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| denix | kergoth: ok, I see. wondering why only bunch of qt5 packages failed this way... :) | 21:55 |
| kergoth | that is interesting. should open a bug at the very least | 21:55 |
| denix | so, bitbake doesn't interrupt already running tasks, but won't execute new ones, once it receives Ctrl-C, right? | 21:57 |
| bluelightning | right | 21:57 |
| fray | correct.. hit ctrl-c a second time to kill 'em all | 21:57 |
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| bluelightning | jmesmon: you could perhaps look into pkgdata for that information | 21:57 |
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| denix | fray: yeah, I know that. that's not the issue | 21:59 |
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| denix | I hit Ctrl-C once and waited for everything to finish, but I ended up missing bunch of qt*-qmlplugins and qt*-examples packages and those have gotten into sstate mirror and now being served as proper ones :( | 22:01 |
| kergoth | that shouldn't be possible, since bitbake let the running tasks complete.. very odd | 22:03 |
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| rburton | khem: empty tmp, cleaned sstate, still fails | 22:20 |
| khem | rburton: damn ok | 22:21 |
| khem | rburton: so If I were to have debian8 vm I will be able to reproduce it ? | 22:21 |
| khem | it does not fail on all the different build boxes I have | 22:21 |
| khem | rburton: can you share x86_64-linux/go-cross-x86_64/1.7.4-r0/temp/log.do_compile | 22:23 |
| rburton | khem: it's literally just | 22:25 |
| rburton | ##### Building Go bootstrap tool. | 22:25 |
| rburton | cmd/dist | 22:25 |
| rburton | # _/data/poky-master/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/go-cross-x86_64/1.7.4-r0/go/src/cmd/dist | 22:25 |
| rburton | /data/poky-master/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/go-cross-x86_64/1.7.4-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/lib/go/pkg/tool/linux_amd64/6l: readsym out of sync | 22:25 |
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| khem | hmm it should build a lot before that | 22:29 |
| khem | do you have bash ? | 22:29 |
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| khem | why is it looking into go/src/cmd/dist thats not right | 22:31 |
| khem | rburton: here is my build log http://sprunge.us/eIVJ | 22:33 |
| martinkelly | Possibly stupid question about LLVM, forgive me if this is covered somewhere: I'm attempting to create a recipe that uses LLVM. During the CMake step it complains that WANT_LLVM_RELEASE is not set. When I export it, it still cannot find llvm-config. When I look inside the sysroot, indeed, llvm-config is *not* installed (except for the wrapper script that looks for the real one). What do I need to do to make an actual llvm-config bina | 22:34 |
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| khem | martinkelly: are you using meta-clang ? | 22:38 |
| khem | seems not | 22:38 |
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| martinkelly | khem: i've tried it both ways, no dice | 22:38 |
| khem | martinkelly: I do see llvm-config though in sysroot | 22:39 |
| martinkelly | with meta-clang i'm seeing an unversioned llvm-config getting installed into /usr/bin for i586-poky-linux but not for qemux86 (the one i'm building for) | 22:39 |
| martinkelly | with oe-core llvm-common, i'm seeing neither | 22:39 |
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| martinkelly | khem: do i just build llvm-common, or do i also need to build clang? | 22:40 |
| khem | martinkelly: you should add llvm-common to DEPENDS | 22:40 |
| martinkelly | donekhem: already done. after building llvm-common, this is what i see in the sysroots: http://pastebin.com/WsrYqjqz | 22:42 |
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| khem | martinkelly: generally clang-native provides llvm-config | 22:45 |
| khem | if you use meta-clang | 22:45 |
| martinkelly | ok | 22:45 |
| martinkelly | i tried a DEPENDS on clang using meta-clang, which added an unversioned llvm-config binary | 22:46 |
| martinkelly | should i try clang-native instead? | 22:46 |
| khem | you need to build clang-native which should build llvm | 22:46 |
| khem | as well | 22:46 |
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| martinkelly | khem: after building clang-native, i see llvm-config and all the rest of the tools in the x86_64-linux sysroot, but llvm-config is unversioned, so it's still not found by the wrapper script | 22:48 |
| khem | hmm | 22:49 |
| martinkelly | it's also in the x86_64-linux sysroot instead of the qemux86 one, and the wrapper is looking in the qemux86 one (specifically in tmp/sysroots/qemux86/usr/bin/crossscripts/llvm-config3.9) | 22:49 |
| martinkelly | i have only this: tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/bin/llvm-config | 22:50 |
| khem | martinkelly: maybe you need to access is using ${STAGING_BINDIR_CROSS}/llvm-config | 22:50 |
| martinkelly | i could point cmake to that explicitly via -DCMAKE_LLVM_CONFIG (or whatever it is called). i thought that was breaking the rules though? | 22:51 |
| khem | no | 22:51 |
| martinkelly | ok | 22:51 |
| martinkelly | what is the purpose of the wrapper? | 22:51 |
| khem | its sort of cross tool calling native tools underneath | 22:52 |
| martinkelly | ok thx | 22:56 |
| martinkelly | well, that helps it avoid the versioning issue | 22:56 |
| martinkelly | however, it's still now looking in the wrong sysroot (the qemux86 one), but llvm-config is installed into the x86_64-linux native sysroot | 22:56 |
| martinkelly | because of these lines in the wrapper script: | 22:56 |
| martinkelly | if [ $WANT_LLVM_RELEASE ]; then | 22:56 |
| martinkelly | exec `dirname $0`/${TARGET_PREFIX}llvm-config$WANT_LLVM_RELEASE ${@} | 22:56 |
| denix | is DEPENDS=virtual/kernel enough to get kernel build-artifacts populated with version.h? or do I need to depend on populate_sysroot task as well? | 22:57 |
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| khem | denix: DEPENDS should be enough | 23:05 |
| denix | khem: looks like I need virtual/kernel:do_shared_workdir too? | 23:06 |
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| denix | khem: one of my packages failed to find work-shared/<mach>/kernel-build-artifacts/include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h | 23:07 |
| denix | khem: and there's no work-shared, while the package DEPENDS on virtual/kernel | 23:08 |
| khem | hmmm yeah if its coming sstate then seems you need it | 23:09 |
| martinkelly | khem: seems like there's two problems: seems like wrapper script looks inside the *current* sysroot instead of the one corresponding to the native arch, which is why it's not finding the right llvm-config. is that just a bug, or am i missing something? | 23:10 |
| khem | denix: do_configure[depends] += "virtual/kernel:do_compile_kernelmodules" is what I see what module.bbclass does | 23:12 |
| khem | martinkelly: its not | 23:12 |
| khem | ported to RSS | 23:12 |
| martinkelly | khem: second, after manually specifying the x86_64-linux version of llvm-config via the cmake option, the llvm-config seems to be confused. it's setting LLVM_BINDIR=tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/lib/llvm but the binaries are actually in tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/lib | 23:14 |
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| denix | khem: I don't need modules. I'll try do_shared_workdir first... | 23:15 |
| khem | martinkelly: this will be a good pull request if you fix it | 23:15 |
| khem | denix: yeah | 23:15 |
| martinkelly | khem: sure, happy to do so. any idea about the second issue? | 23:15 |
| martinkelly | i will dig through if you're not sure | 23:15 |
| khem | its probably needs to be patched | 23:15 |
| khem | as well | 23:16 |
| martinkelly | ok | 23:16 |
| khem | you need to look either into llvm-common or clang provided pne | 23:16 |
| khem | one | 23:16 |
| martinkelly | ok | 23:16 |
| martinkelly | i guess i'm surprised to be the only one hitting this. if llvm-config isn't working right, shouldn't everyone using meta-clang be broken? | 23:16 |
| khem | no | 23:16 |
| khem | only if you poke for it | 23:16 |
| martinkelly | lol, "poke" ? | 23:17 |
| martinkelly | how would the cmake llvm-config probing ever work in this configuration? does it work by coincidence for those building native? is it just broken for me because i'm in a qemu sysroot? | 23:18 |
| khem | it could be broken in general | 23:18 |
| martinkelly | ok. do not many people use clang in yocto? i was kind of surprised to see the version be only 3.3 in oe-core | 23:19 |
| khem | yeah core version is only there for llvmpipe support in mesa | 23:19 |
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| paulg | we should have a compiler/toolchain named "crack". | 23:23 |
| paulg | then we'd have crackpipe support. ;-) | 23:23 |
| martinkelly | lol | 23:23 |
| martinkelly | ok. thanks for your help khem! if you're the one i'm thinking of, i was at your talk last week at ELC :). | 23:23 |
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| denix | kergoth: tried --no-setscene, but it also triggers rebuilding all the dependencies, though they are already built... | 23:27 |
| kergoth | huh, thats strange, havent seen that. maybe a recent change? check with rp? | 23:28 |
| denix | hmm, can't seem to be able force-rebuild a single package at all... "bitbake blah" once to get all the dependencies populated, then bitbake -c cleansstate and disable sstate-mirror, but now it rebuilds all the dependencies, which I don't want... | 23:31 |
| denix | well, maybe not all , but only some - it did eventually failed where I expected it to fail. sorry for the noise | 23:32 |
| kergoth | try -C fetch instead? | 23:32 |
| denix | kergoth: will be trying next | 23:38 |
| denix | so, shouldn't virtual/kernel:do_shared_workdir be part of sstate? | 23:39 |
| martinkelly | khem: do you think it's important to support multiple llvm versions co-installed? i see two ways to patch the wrapper script... 1) remove the logic regarding LLVM_WANT_RELEASE and just use unversioned llvm-config. 2) properly verison all the installed artifacts like, say, debian does (this requires some work and pain to get right, so i don't want to do it unless it's worth the effort). | 23:40 |
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| RP | denix: no, it shouldn't since extracting it from source takes the same length of time | 23:49 |
| denix | RP: thanks. looks like our devs look for include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h which is only available in shared workdir... | 23:51 |
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