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| geoffrey_l | Hi, since recently when I rerun an image recipe without any change there are some tasks (including do_rootfs) being re-executed, any idea from where it come ? (I tested on core-image-minimal and core-image-sato on a new clone repo and same result) | 10:22 |
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| jobro | Hi All, | 10:47 |
| jobro | I'm writing a receipe for a CMake project. This project allows to set some options. How can I set this cmake options in the receipe ? | 10:47 |
| rburton | jobro: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#ref-classes-cmake | 10:51 |
| jobro | rburton: Thanks ! | 10:52 |
| rburton | kanavin: +PR = "r1" <— no need | 11:11 |
| rburton | but yay! | 11:11 |
| rburton | i do like a one line patch that lets you fix up several recipes | 11:11 |
| kanavin | rburton: there is a need, without it the change will not be picked up by the compile step | 11:11 |
| rburton | damn well should | 11:11 |
| rburton | can't be cleaning properly | 11:12 |
| kanavin | rburton: feel free to test, but I wasted quite some time pulling hair when this change that should've fixed the issue, did not | 11:12 |
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| rburton | hmm the prepend changed, so it would re-run compile. it should then do the cp correctly. | 11:13 |
| rburton | mysterious | 11:13 |
| kanavin | rburton: it will do the cp, but the subsequent make will not figure out that the file changed, and will do nothing | 11:14 |
| rburton | idiot make | 11:14 |
| rburton | so, missing dependencies in the makefile? | 11:14 |
| kanavin | I guess | 11:15 |
| kanavin | I wouldn't have looked into this, but this issue prevented dnf from running on mips64 image :) | 11:15 |
| rburton | haha | 11:16 |
| kanavin | it's one thing to have introspection broken for webkit, and another to have package management broken | 11:18 |
| rburton | yes | 11:18 |
| kanavin | rburton: so, other than (unfortunately, multiple) multilib failures, the rest of the AB run is in pretty good shape | 11:19 |
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| kanavin | I will try not to spend any more time on this until the end of explorathon | 11:20 |
| kanavin | which I guess pushes the whole thing to M1 | 11:20 |
| kanavin | which might be a good thing, because no one except marquiz actually tried the patchset, and the only way to make people do it is to force it on them - sad but true | 11:21 |
| rburton | pretty much | 11:21 |
| kanavin | RP: ^^^ | 11:21 |
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| rburton | m3 is late for such an invasive change. if it were a gcc major bump we'd say no. | 11:21 |
| RP | rburton: I'm still kind of tempted to try but that is me... | 11:22 |
| RP | If the patches aren't ready, that gives me a problem though | 11:22 |
| RP | (and I know its not for want of trying) | 11:22 |
| kanavin | RP: multilib is broken, or at least it is incompatible with the assumptions the AB tests make | 11:23 |
| rburton | multilib is a *nightmare* | 11:23 |
| rburton | and pretty important | 11:23 |
| Geera | hi! I'm newby in yocto. I'm using the yocto on nitrogen6x board. I have to reduce my boot time. So I need to compile my kernel. I have changed my kernel files a little bit. How can I compile the new kernel? Do you have any document about this? | 11:23 |
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| kanavin | rburton: the basic use cases work, but AB tries advanced stuff too, unfortunately :D | 11:24 |
| kanavin | rburton: who is a multilib specialist, should I need one? | 11:26 |
| kanavin | RP: ^^^ | 11:26 |
| RP | kanavin: probably me or fray | 11:27 |
| kanavin | which timezone fray is actually in? | 11:28 |
| kanavin | where is he? | 11:28 |
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| RP | kanavin: mid US | 11:31 |
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| cornel | hello | 11:38 |
| cornel | we have issues trying to download iqvlinux from sf.net | 11:38 |
| cornel | is there a way to add an alternative URI for download? | 11:39 |
| cornel | (in the recipe) | 11:39 |
| cornel | found a bitbake page about mirrors | 11:43 |
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| ant_work | RP: I was wondering about base_conditional being deprecated (it isn't yet) then I started to compare oe.utils and bb.utils. Iirc long ago the idea was that bitbake is not necessaary used to build OE so it has its set of utils. Now I see there are even duplicate func between the two utils.py (i.e. prune_suffix) | 12:16 |
| ant_work | What is the logic behind the split? | 12:17 |
| RP | ant_work: there is no idea that bitbake is not necessary to build OE that I'm aware of | 12:18 |
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| RP | ant_work: In general we tend to prefer bitbake but it really depends on the context of the functions | 12:19 |
| ant_work | I rephrase: bitbake could build other stuff | 12:19 |
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| Crofton|work | better phrasing :) | 12:22 |
| ant_work | iirc there was some example of bitbake standalone...my ram is defective by now | 12:23 |
| Crofton|work | there was a talk at elc sort of related | 12:25 |
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| RP | Right, there was a talk where they used bitbake but their own metadata | 12:29 |
| RP | and this does support the idea of some of the common functions being in bitbake | 12:29 |
| RP | kanavin: I like the mips64 patch :) | 12:29 |
| rburton | the pr bump is bothering me :) | 12:29 |
| RP | rburton: well, could be worse | 12:30 |
| ant_work | RP: I'd say in the oe utils.py should remain only functions somehow bound to the metadata | 12:31 |
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| RP | ant_work: ultimately I'd agree | 12:32 |
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| * abogani waves all | 12:45 | |
| abogani | If I build the sdk (aka -c populate_sdk) for two machines with different kernel but the same DISTRO and TUNE_PKGARCH (i.e. cortexa8hf-neon) I incur this build error: | 12:45 |
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| abogani | ERROR: XXXX-sdk-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk: The recipe XXXX-sdk is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist | 12:46 |
| abogani | The simplest solution is set TOOLCHAIN_OUTPUTNAME to something derived from MACHINE but it creates as many SDK as MACHINE which I would prefer avoid.... What I'm doing wrong? | 12:46 |
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| RP | abogani: can you be more specific about the kinds of files its trying to overwrite? | 12:59 |
| RP | abogani: can't you just build and use one of these if they're all the same? | 12:59 |
| RP | I'm guessing since the kernel is different and it could include the kernel, its building each time | 13:00 |
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| abogani | RP: Are there a way to build an SDK *without* kernel so it can targeting any hw boards of TUNE_PKGARCH type? | 13:04 |
| abogani | RP: It tries to overwrite the 3 files in build/tmp/deploy/sdk/. | 13:05 |
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| cornel | is there a way to add more than one mirror to SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR ? | 13:42 |
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| Geera | I'm using the yocto on nitrogen6x board. I have to reduce my boot time. So I need to compile my kernel. I have changed my kernel files a little bit. How can I compile the new kernel? Do you have any document about this? | 13:48 |
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| jku | cornel: you should be able to add new ones to MIRRORS, see meta/classes/mirrors.bbclass | 13:48 |
| cornel | jku, thank you | 13:49 |
| cornel | jku, ok, it seems i've needed the \n :) | 13:52 |
| cornel | jku, thank you very much | 13:52 |
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| cornel | jku, is the order important? | 13:54 |
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| cornel | jku, if i've placed first the sf.net mirror var then the hardcoded mirror, it failed at the former without trying the latter | 13:55 |
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| jku | cornel: if you add a line to MIRRORS, the original should be tried first, then the one you added | 14:00 |
| cornel | jku, that was also my expectation | 14:00 |
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| RP | abogani: you are correct that if you don't have kernel dependencies in the sdk, it should then have the same stamps in those different configurations and not be overwriting those files | 14:51 |
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| jobro | Hi, is there a way to get a prompt to type my git credentials within bitbake. I want to use private git repositories, unfortunately key authentication is not possible on this git-server. To write my credentials to the recipe is not wanted. | 15:06 |
| fray | no -- bitbake process time does not permit stopping and asking the user for questions.. | 15:07 |
| fray | there are other ways to deal with this.. | 15:07 |
| fray | you can use a program that intercepts GIT_ASKPASS and returns credentials, or you can put your credentials into your local .nc file.. | 15:07 |
| fray | (at Wind River we use a program called 'anspass', https://github.com/WindRiver-OpenSourceLabs/anspass) | 15:08 |
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| jobro | fray: Thanks, I will check it | 15:13 |
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| fqtw | does vnc work on yocto? | 15:39 |
| lsandov | fqtw: clien? | 15:40 |
| lsandov | client? | 15:40 |
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| fqtw | lsandov, server | 15:44 |
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| lsandov | fqtw: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=vnc just shows client stuff | 15:45 |
| fqtw | lsandov, isn't x11vnc the server? | 15:46 |
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| lsandov | fqtw: you are right. give it a try | 15:47 |
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| fqtw | ok thanks | 15:48 |
| fqtw | lsandov, btw, where should I start if I want to compile binaries for yocto with a layer, (but I don't want to build a yocto image)? | 15:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'd say the only meaningful way to use a layer without doing an acutal build is by using an esdk that fits the image in use. | 15:51 |
| lsandov | fqtw: why dont you want a build? you can try the vnc stuff with a qemu machine | 15:52 |
| lsandov | fqtw: but you need to build a image including your package | 15:53 |
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| LetoThe2nd | of course you can crosscompile for the image if you have only a toolchain. but thats unrelated to any layer, then. | 15:54 |
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| rburton | joshuagl: do both ABs have the same sstate mirrors etc setup now? | 16:08 |
| joshuagl | rburton: both should be setting the same sstate mirror in eSDK installer configuration, if that's what you're asking | 16:09 |
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| pohly | jku: do you still intend to do anything for 2.3 on https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9527 ? | 16:10 |
| yocti | Bug 9527: enhancement, Medium, 2.3, jussi.kukkonen, NEW , Design support for a stateless OS | 16:10 |
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| fqtw | lsandov, I don't have the recipe for the image I want to compile the binaries for. only the OEM has it | 16:17 |
| rburton | fqtw: sounds like the OEM wasnt thinking very much about how they expect people to use the software to be honest | 16:17 |
| fqtw | rburton, they just expect people to use the existing functionality but not add to it | 16:18 |
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| fqtw | they are selling mainly the hardware | 16:18 |
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| kergoth | god, archiver.bbclass is so freaking broken | 16:36 |
| rburton | kergoth: tag you're it! | 16:37 |
| kergoth | do_ar_configured is completely non-functional for non-linux-yocto kernels, as far as i can tell. it overrides WORKDIR nad re-runs do_unpack/do_patch, but kernel.bbclass arranges to wipe STAGING_KERNEL_DIR and move S to STAGING_KERNEL_DIR regardless of what WORKDIR is set to | 16:37 |
| kergoth | which means do_unpack_and_patch breaks do_configure, depending on task execution order | 16:38 |
| rburton | i think i was the last person to rewrite it all, but that predates the kernel magic | 16:38 |
| rburton | maybe we need better selftest for archiver ... | 16:38 |
| kergoth | also, just running do_unpack and do_patch alone isn't guaranteed to get you the same source tree as S, when other tasks have been introduced to prepare the sources further | 16:38 |
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| kergoth | i feel like it should just make devtool do it, if we can't hook the existing tasks, and at least get that source preparation logic consolidated in one place that way | 16:39 |
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| rburton | maybe archiver shoud run all tasks up to do_compile instead | 16:40 |
| kergoth | hmm | 16:40 |
| kergoth | one issue is archiver tries to satisfy all use cases, so ti has a ton of configuration options, and i'm guessing we aren't testing every combination | 16:41 |
| kergoth | but i think fundamentally ohw it's implemented today is flawed | 16:41 |
| * kergoth ponders | 16:42 | |
| RP | kergoth: it does sound broken. We do have the "tasks between" logic now so it could be potentially fixed | 16:45 |
| RP | not that I like the code | 16:45 |
| kergoth | i think we need to add a marker along the line sof do_image_complete, but for the sources being fully prepared | 16:46 |
| kergoth | then devtool woudln't need its hardcoded handling of linux-yocto so much | 16:46 |
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| RP | kergoth: doesn't do_configure effectively act as that? | 16:58 |
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| RP | kergoth: I guess you could just have a variable specifying the task with configure as the default? | 16:58 |
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| kergoth | true, i always forget about the - suffix support you added, guess just running do_configure- would get the job done | 17:11 |
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| rburton | i forgot too | 17:12 |
| rburton | the syntax is too horrible to remember ;) | 17:12 |
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| CrowgirlC | Has anyone seen Jefro? | 17:57 |
| Crofton|work | outreachy? | 17:58 |
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| CrowgirlC | Yes. | 18:11 |
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| kanavin_home | bluelightning: devtool add <git uri> doesn't work for me when trying to create a npm based recipe :( | 18:44 |
| kanavin_home | bluelightning: latest poky master, meta-oe is included in layers, I get this: | 18:45 |
| JesperHan | 'Host distribution "Ubuntu-14.04" has not been validated with this version of the build system' http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.2.1/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#detailed-supported-distros | 18:46 |
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| JesperHan | I am curious if that message is accurate somehow | 18:47 |
| kergoth | you're looking at the 2.2 manual, are you on the morty branch? | 18:48 |
| kergoth | master dropped 14.04 for pyro, afaik | 18:48 |
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| kanavin_home | bluelightning: http://pastebin.com/HcQmFGdy | 18:50 |
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| bluelightning | kanavin_home: yep, there's a bug covering that | 18:54 |
| bluelightning | kanavin_home: it's a result of RSS | 18:54 |
| kanavin_home | bluelightning: at the moment my interest is mostly in getting shrinkwrap and lockdown files out of it | 18:55 |
| kanavin_home | bluelightning: I can write the rest of the recipe myself :) | 18:55 |
| bluelightning | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10992 | 18:55 |
| yocti | Bug 10992: normal, Medium+, 2.3 M3, paul.eggleton, IN PROGRESS IMPLEMENTATION , devtool: add: check for nodejs-native broken since recipe specific sysroots changes | 18:55 |
| bluelightning | you may wish to try with morty instead | 18:55 |
| kanavin_home | bluelightning: and then the plan it to see how Go does these things (modules installation), and whether we can abstract it into a generic thing with plugins | 18:56 |
| JesperHan | kergoth: I *think* this build I am attempting is for Dylan (1.4) | 18:58 |
| kanavin_home | bluelightning: the problem should be similar regardless of language: fetching, checksumming and license check needs to be generalized to language modules installed with a custom tool | 18:58 |
| kergoth | JesperHan: every release has its own set of tested / supported distros. | 18:58 |
| kergoth | you'd have to examine the manual corresponding to the release you're using | 18:59 |
| kergoth | note the '2.2.2' in the manual url you linked | 18:59 |
| JesperHan | oh, http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.4/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#detailed-supported-distros | 18:59 |
| kergoth | er 2.2.1 | 18:59 |
| JesperHan | starting to understand | 18:59 |
| JesperHan | thank god for vagrant | 19:00 |
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| miceopede | is there a way to change PV after do_configure(), for example in a do_configure_append()? | 20:32 |
| miceopede | i'd like to embed inside PV the version of something that is downloaded in do_configure() | 20:33 |
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| kergoth | nope, PV is used by bitbake, it has to be set at parse time | 20:35 |
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| miceopede | hm. can i fetch something and run a parse-time recipe to set it? | 20:36 |
| miceopede | there's a build number embedded within a dependency that i'd like to extract and put into PV | 20:36 |
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| bluelightning | miceopede: so you could do it in anonymous python, although that'll be ugly to have that running at that time, and it may run more often than you'd like | 20:47 |
| bluelightning | miceopede: one alternative solution would be to set PKGV instead of PV - that can be set at packaging time, so the output packages have the desired version on them | 20:48 |
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| miceopede | @bluelightning if i do it at packaging time, just override do_package(), or add do_package_append()? | 20:52 |
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| miceopede | and set PKGV? | 20:52 |
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| bluelightning | miceopede: it'd need to be a do_package_prepend() (and it'll be python since that's what do_package is) | 20:55 |
| bluelightning | populate_packages_prepend would also work | 20:55 |
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| miceopede | got it, thanks. how do i set PKGV from python? PKGV = "foo"? not really sure how the scoping works in bitbake. | 20:56 |
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| fray | there are effectively two scopes.. 'global' (config space) and local (recipe space).. local always has priority | 20:58 |
| fray | so PKGV = "foo" will set PKGV inside the recipe.. | 20:59 |
| fray | as long as something 'later' doesn't come in an do 'PKGV = "bar"' it will do what you want | 20:59 |
| miceopede | @fray thank you | 20:59 |
| fray | (there are a lot more operators then python, such as ??=, ?=, +=, =+, _append, _prepend, .= and =. | 21:00 |
| fray | ??= is set if nobody else -ever- sets it.. | 21:00 |
| fray | ?= is set if not already set | 21:00 |
| fray | += append to the string with a leading 'space' | 21:00 |
| fray | =+ preend to the string add a space | 21:00 |
| fray | append and prepend just do it, but -last- after all other operations have been performed.. | 21:00 |
| fray | .= and =. are same as += and =+ but without the additional space.. | 21:01 |
| fray | _remove = assume this is a space separated list, and remove the item fromt he list (does it very late) | 21:01 |
| miceopede | @fray but setting PKGV inside do_package_prepend() only sets it for the do_package_prepend() scope, no? | 21:02 |
| fray | correct.. you need to do it at ther ecipe level.. | 21:02 |
| fray | so I guess there are three levels.. config (global), recipe and task | 21:02 |
| miceopede | i don't know what PKGV should be at parse-time, only at do_package_prepend(). | 21:03 |
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| miceopede | oh, i guess i could d.setVar()? | 21:04 |
| bluelightning | doesn't really matter what PKGV is at parse time (it can stay the default of "${PV}" | 21:05 |
| bluelightning | d.setVar() is what you'd use within do_package_prepend or populate_packages_prepend yes | 21:05 |
| bluelightning | there are actually three* scopes | 21:05 |
| bluelightning | (* because there are extras in some parts of the code) | 21:06 |
| bluelightning | the third not covered is each task... you can't just setVar() in a task and expect it to apply to other tasks | 21:06 |
| bluelightning | here we're just doing it within do_package so it'll be fine (populate_packages is called from within do_package) | 21:06 |
| fray | the 'anonymous' python is the only pyhton section that covers teh recipe scope right? | 21:07 |
| bluelightning | yep | 21:07 |
| miceopede | d.setVar() works perfect. thanks all | 21:07 |
| bluelightning | well, aside from declaratively setting a variable from the recipe (A = "value") | 21:07 |
| bluelightning | and of course, you can set a variable declaratively to a python expression, so you can get a dynamic value that way as well | 21:07 |
| miceopede | what the hell is anonymous python? as i understand it, bitbake recipes are parsed by some custom parser, and parts are compiled to python and the rest are run as shell? | 21:08 |
| fray | reminds me I forgot the ':=' which is 'evalute this expression -now- | 21:08 |
| bluelightning | python() { ... } | 21:08 |
| bluelightning | that's an anonymous python section which will execute as part of parsing the recipe | 21:08 |
| fray | the anonymous python function runs (effectively) at parse time | 21:08 |
| bluelightning | you can name it "__anonymous" and you'll still see that in places in the metadata, but that's entirely optional | 21:09 |
| fray | you can define multiple anonymous python chunks to run (but run order is not promised) | 21:09 |
| bluelightning | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#anonymous-python-functions | 21:09 |
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| miceopede | time to rtfm :D | 21:10 |
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| miceopede | second question: can i set a global variable in do_package_prepend() that will be picked up in ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND() later? i know i could manipulate files on the rootfs and then do it that way, but would be easier to just set a number and get it out at rootfs creation time | 22:44 |
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| miceopede | can i expect to d.setVar in a recipe's do_package_prepend() and be able to get that out in a ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND()? wit ${@d.getVar...}? | 22:58 |
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| RP | halstead: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-intel-gpl/builds/169/steps/Git%20checkout%20of%20poky/logs/stdio - not good :/ | 23:44 |
| RP | halstead: failures on three different workers | 23:44 |
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| RP | halstead: in case I'm not around, we need a master build... | 23:45 |
| stephano | halstead: I'm around tonight after I get home from JF. Ping me if you need anything. | 23:52 |
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| * RP has fired the build on the old cluster, it will just take a lot longer there as the sstate cache is cold | 23:59 | |
| RP | Incidentally, I think we sped up rebuilds hugely with that recent runqueue.py change | 23:59 |
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