Tuesday, 2017-05-23

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CostinCmorning all06:17
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ed2RP1: I couldn't reproduce that build failure. on OpenSuse 42.2 it works just fine, on my older machines build breaks this way: https://gist.github.com/bartosh/741ea816bf944e2601c51fdc3c86501007:03
ed2RP1: any ideas?07:04
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PinkSnake@ed2 sometimes glibc-locale: 820 installed and not shipped files. [installed-vs-shipped] means you don't have set FILES varibale correctly08:01
ed2PinkSnake: well, it's master-next as it is. i didn't set any variables. it's a clean build.08:02
ed2PinkSnake: and it works on latest OpenSuse. It doesn't work on 42.1 and 13.208:03
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PinkSnake@ed2 ok so there is maybe some touble on master-next, it's dirty but you can maybe add INSANE_SKIP+="installed-vs-shipped" in a .bbappend08:05
Smitty_I'm losing it !    https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#bitbake-user-manual-execution  states, very clearly,  "The layer.conf files are used to construct key variables such as BBPATH and BBFILES."  If that is the case, why are these variables always being set in conf/bblayers.conf  and not conf/layers.conf ?08:10
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rj_Smitty_: They are set in /poky/meta-something/conf/layer.conf08:26
RamoseCan a flag OE_QMAKE_CXXFLAGS defined in one meta layer meta-qt5 be used in some other meta layer ?08:27
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ChrysDMorning everyone!08:34
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Smitty_Trying to understand what (the hell) bitbake is doing is an exercise in frustration.  The "-e" option to bitbake (e.g. bitbake -e customtarget) produces output like this:  https://pastebin.com/ksWzrkZn    Why are files like conf/bitbake.conf, conf.site.conf, conf.auto.conf not provided with full path names.   Where do they come from ?   Why doesn't this show the order of processing from the very first file bitbakes opens (bblayers.co08:37
Smitty_...are processed ?08:37
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Smitty_Why doesn't my layer appear in BBLAYERS variable?  https://pastebin.com/81XdwB2g08:48
Smitty_My Layer being meta-custom, which is present08:48
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rj_Smitty_: Have you added the layer path to the bblayer.conf file?08:50
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Smitty_meta-custom is "included" by way of an line in templateconf.cfg  "..meta-custom/conf" - which apparently is adding in the layer - unless I am mistake08:52
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rj_Smitty_: As far as i know you just have to add the path to bblayers.conf and you should be able to use the layer08:52
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sobczykis it possible to limit a recipe to architecture features? ie. only for cortexa15hf? COMPATIBLE_MACHINE matches not what I want09:18
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ChrysDSmitty_ : For adding a layer, is just simple as adding a line into bblayers.conf09:21
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ChrysDSmitty_ : You also need to check into your layer, if you have a layer.conf. If you have followed the guide, you have used the tools to create one and in the layer.conf it should select every recipe in your layer.09:22
ChrysDSmitty_ : Something like BBFILES += "${LAYERDIR}/recipes-*/*/*.bb \         ${LAYERDIR}/recipes-*/*/*.bbappend"09:22
ChrysDsobczyk : Does " soc_familly" could help you?09:29
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ChrysDsobczyk : Look into also TARGET_ARCH / TUNE_ARCH09:31
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ChrysDsobczyk : you are limitating a recipe for an arch, but as you have to define the machine target, is it really needed? Maybe you should consider makingn a recipe image for your arch.09:33
cornelis there a plan to move to meson away from autotools?09:33
ChrysDsobczyk : and you bitbake the image that suit your arch.09:34
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sobczykChrysD: my image is tuned for odroid, but the specific recipe is a blob that should not be used on other boards like imx609:41
sobczykso the blob recipe should only build for all odroid machines (cortexa15hf)09:42
ChrysDsobczyk : What don't you make an image for odroid machines especially including that recipe for example?09:42
PinkSnake@sobczyk maybe with someting like that:  machine = d.getVar('COMPATIBLE_MACHINE', True)09:43
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sobczykChrysD: I do include it explicitly, but I don't want others include it in other arch by mistake09:44
PinkSnake@sobczyk @ChrysD is right, you can also maybe split you work in 2 meta-layers and add the board dependent part in bbalyer09:46
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ChrysDsobczyk : you couldn't avoid any "humans problems". If someone do the wrong bitbake and flash it into the board, yocto couldn't help you for that. Even if you do a kind of system that could select the recipe depending the machine put, if the one that bitbake forgot to tell the right arch/machine, it won't work.09:50
ChrysDsobczyk : so maybe doing a recipe image which explicitely tell you that is an image for odroid ou imx6 will help to not bitbake the wrong image09:51
ChrysDsobczyk : odroid-image-gui-qt or whatever09:51
ChrysDsobczyk : imx6-image09:51
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Ramosecan a flag like OE_QMAKE_CXXFLAGS used between different layers ?11:09
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binarymRamose: i guess it depends on where you defined it ...11:13
Ramosebinarym: I defined it in meta-qt5 layer11:13
Ramoseand wanted to use value of that flag in some other layer11:15
Ramosesomething like it11:15
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rj_Does anyone know why "multiprocessing" is not installed with the python3 package?11:17
rburtonrj_: because until very recently python3 just installed python3-core which is just the critical bits.  install python3-modules.11:18
rburton(I fixed this a few weeks ago)11:18
rj_Ah alright, thanks!11:19
rj_rburton: Where exactly can i find the recipe?11:21
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binarymRamose: but where ? In a recipe ?11:21
binarymif defined in a recipe (.bb file), the flag will only apply to it11:21
binarymif you want system-wide flags, you have to put it in a .conf11:22
rburtonrj_: its built by python3, just install python3-modules instead of python3 in your image11:22
binarymi'm not sure that it works for OE_QMAKE_CXXFLAGS11:22
Ramoseyeah I am trying this .conf approach11:22
binarymRamose: try with your build/conf/local.conf11:22
Ramoseexport OE_QMAKE_CXXFLAGS11:22
binarymin my opinion, best place to do it11:22
rj_rburton: ah okay11:22
Ramoseand then lets the recipe file in meta-qt5 set its value11:23
Ramoseand see if this flag can be used system-wide.11:23
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LocutusOfBorghello bluelightning did you send the patch about upper case PN files? (the variables not being evaluated when PN is upper case)11:28
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rj_rburton: It works now, thanks ^^11:33
rburtonrj_: annoying bug in the metadata, might push it back into 2.3 as its annoying11:33
rj_rburton: Well if you know about it's no problem. But when you don't it can be hard to find whats wrong11:34
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Smitty_runqemu hangs at:  runqemu - INFO - Running tmp-glibc/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-helper-native/1.0-r1/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin//qemu-system-i386  -drive file=tmp-glibc/deploy/images/qemux86/customimage-qemux86-20170522132558.rootfs.ext4,if=virtio,format=raw -vga vmware -show-cursor -usb -usbdevice tablet -device virtio-rng-pci   -cpu qemu32 -m 256 -serial mon:vc -serial null -kernel tmp-glibc/deploy/images/qemux86/bzImage--4.10.15+g12:57
Smitty_Do I need some kind of special privilege to run qemu under linux ?12:58
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fmeerkoetterhow does the yocto project handle security fixes for its layers? from what I can see/read there are security updates for around a year? my impression is that after that point i either move to a new yocto release (wont happen for a product...) or i monitor all the packages in my system and apply patches accordingly. Is this correct?13:15
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rburtonfmeerkoetter: yes, either monitor yourself or pay a OSV such as wind river/mentor/montavista to do it for you (by providing a supported yocto-based system for N years)13:16
fmeerkoetterrburton: ah. thanks! that is of course also an option. good point13:17
fmeerkoetterrburton: sadly enough that is not what I am seeing in practice. :-(13:17
fmeerkoetterthere everybody and its dog is just doing neither...13:18
rburtonyeah, that's the sad truth13:18
rburtonthe "community" doesn't have the manpower to support four year old releases for security updates13:19
fmeerkoetterwhat other OSVs are there?13:19
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fmeerkoetterthat also use yocto underneath13:20
rburtonfmeerkoetter: https://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/yocto-project-participants is a list of all project members, a fair proportion of those do supported products13:20
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fmeerkoetterthank you!13:23
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BaloneyGeek|workHi, is there a recipe/target that enables me to include the entire python standard library in my image?13:44
BaloneyGeek|workThere's stuff like argparse and importlib and gettext missing and I don't want to hunt down each package manually and generate an image every time13:45
rburtonBaloneyGeek|work: include python3-modules or python-modules in your image13:45
rburtonreally going to have to backport the fix for this13:45
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BaloneyGeek|workrburton:  ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'python-modules'. Close matches:13:46
BaloneyGeek|workcodecs, idle, dbus, python RPROVIDES python-modules13:46
BaloneyGeek|workBut I have python in my IMAGE_INSTALL13:46
rburtonyeah, IMAGE_INSTALL should have python-modules in13:46
BaloneyGeek|workThat's if I try to bitbake python-modules13:46
rburtonpython-modules is a *package* built by the python *recipe*13:47
rburtonjust add python-modules to your image and build the image, bitbake will do the rest13:47
BaloneyGeek|workYeah, that's working13:48
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Smitty_Still can't do the simplest thing - this time:  change a project to  also produce an ISO.  It appears there is a variable that I want to use "IMAGE_FSTYPES", and from what I can tell, for some reason I want to put this variable in the file build/conf/local.conf (in the *build directory*).  But this produces an error13:51
Smitty_ERROR: /home/smitty/my_yocto/customdistro/openembedded-core/../meta-custom/recipes-example/images/customimage.bb: No IMAGE_CMD defined for IMAGE_FSTYPES entry 'ISO' - possibly invalid type name or missing support class13:52
Smitty_Huh ?13:52
rburton'iso' not 'ISO'13:52
Smitty_oh my god13:52
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Smitty_I guess nobody cares that in fact the FS Type is ISO, and the image file extension is iso - if the system is going to be case sensitive over such things, it should get it right.13:57
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rburtonSmitty_: the entry in FSTYPES is used to look up variable overrides, which are lowercase13:58
rburtonif the documentation is buggy point to where it says ISO and we can fix it13:59
top22Hello, I have the following error "The license listed Proprietary was not in the licenses collected for recipe XXX"; however the Proprietary license does appear in poky/meta/files/common-licenses/13:59
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Smitty_So, I totally don't understand how add "iso" to a variable could ahve casue bitbake to have to build so much extra stuff14:09
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Smitty_how adding "iso".... could have caused14:11
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Smitty_Because the ability to wrote in ISO format is not enabled by default, so the tools required to do so haven't been built ?14:12
rburtonassuming that's what its building, yes14:12
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top21Hello ! I have a recipe who build a kernel module, i do see the module in the sysroot when i add my recipe to IMAGE_INSTALL. I'm trying now to load the module when booting, I have tried to add my module in KERNEL_MODULE_AUTOLOAD, but it doesn't load the module when booting my image. Can someone help me on this?14:18
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Smitty_So, if I always want the ability to  to write an ISO image in my project, I need to provide a local.conf and ensure it somehow gets copied/moved to build/conf/local.conf (probably by way of a customized oe-setup-environment script) ?14:21
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rburtonSmitty_: or, put it in your distro configuration14:24
rburtonwhich if you say "always" is the correct solution14:24
Smitty_put what in my distro configuration ?14:24
Smitty_but, it doesn't belong there, it's supposed to go in local.conf14:24
Smitty_isn't it ?14:25
rburtonit can go in a configuration file14:25
rburtonlocal.conf is your configuration file for that specific build tree14:25
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rburtonthe distro config is another one, for distro-wide choice14:25
rburtonsome BSP configuration files set specific IMAGE_FSTYPES too14:25
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Smitty_*NOT* understanding this paradigm at all.14:26
rburtonif your product is saying "i want an ISO image" then put it in your distro configuration file14:27
rburtonwhereas if you were saying "i want an iso to test something" then local.conf is appropriate.14:28
Smitty_OK, so, what if I just want the ISO to be a build target ?   Which is really the sensible thing to do, IMHO.  In other words, I'd like to be able to say "bitbake <option to output an iso> customimage"14:30
Smitty_or perhaps "bitbake customimage-iso"14:31
Smitty_I'm guessing that is somehow already supported by adding a new layer which would include that configuration item and define a build target like "customimage-iso"  ??14:33
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rburton"bitbake myimage" will make myimage in all the types that you've said myimage can be built in14:39
rburtonso you could set IMAGE_FSTYPES inside the image recipe if you only care that one specific image is built as an ISO14:39
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rburtonie our build-applicance-image sets IMAGE_FSTYPE=vmdk as it only generates a VM image14:40
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rburtonwhereas qemu machines set IMAGE_FSTYPES to ext4 as it only wants a file system14:41
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vm_hi, here https://community.nxp.com/thread/308722 otavio tells, that you can build u-boot with meta-toolchain "by hand" , what commands is he using?14:42
Smitty_Seeprate topic.  I've run up the ISO image inside VMWare Player.  I am being prompted for a root password, I thought it was empty, so press enter.  It is not logging me in14:42
rburtonvm_: bitbake meta-toolchain will make a tarball with cross compilers and stuff in14:42
vm_so its better to reconfigure/build with bitbake ?14:43
rburtonSmitty_: EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES has debug-tweaks enabled by default, worth checking you haven't overridden that14:43
Smitty_I haven't14:44
Smitty_just using your customimage build14:44
Smitty_sorry, customdistro14:44
rburtonthen you haven't set it14:45
rburtonby default != what i did in customdistro14:45
rburtonhave a look at local.conf.sample for more variables you'll be interested in, such as EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES14:46
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Smitty_meta-custom/conf/local.conf.sample does not contain EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES14:49
rburtonsorry, meta/conf/local.conf.sample14:50
rburtonthe oe-core one, not my almost-nothing one14:51
Smitty_But, I end up using  meta-custom/conf/local.conf.sample, not the one from met14:51
rburtonyes i know14:51
rburtonbut i'm saying that for meta-custom i literally deleted almost evertyhing from it14:52
Smitty_are you saying I have to add somehting to EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES variable in order for to log in as root with no password ?14:52
rburtonand you need more assignments somewhere, which is why the default local.conf.sample is so long14:52
rburtonby default, images are not compromisable14:52
Smitty_but, what's the password ?14:52
rburtonit isn't set14:52
rburtonas i said,  not compromisable14:53
rburtonyou can add debug-tweaks to EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES to get a blank root password so you can login for testing14:53
Smitty_OK, I am starting to understand things a little better.   How would a newbie like me ever figure out that such a thing is essentially a requirement in order to use a totally basic image14:54
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rburtonbeacuse generally a newbie would be using the local.conf.sample which comes in oe-core instead of attempting to construct their own metadistro first.  the one in oe-core has lots of bits enabled out of the box, and lots of comments.14:55
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rburtonthe advice last week was "get it working with local.conf and then adapt to a custom distro when you understand the model"14:56
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Smitty_Yeah, must say, this has not been a shallow learning curve.   I'm somehow just not quite "groking" this build system model yet14:57
rburtoni really advice one step at a time - ignore building a custom distro and repos, just stick with local.conf modifications to get what you want working14:58
nvldHi guys, is there any way to "append" or override a bbclass file ? I don't want to edit directly the bbclass file, and if I put a different version in another layer (even with a greater priority), it is not used.14:58
kergothnvld: you can override it by using the correct order in BBLAYERS. the first one found will be used14:59
kergothspecifically the first one found in BBPATH will be used, but the two are usually the same given how layer.conf files adjust BBPATH14:59
Crofton|workclearly we need to apply machine learning to distro building15:00
Smitty_So, why doesn't including the meta layer bring in its conf ?15:04
Smitty_I mean, how does that work15:04
Smitty_How does mandatory stuff not get lost ?15:04
nvldOh thank's, I checked the BBPATH var but did not know how to ajdust the order. I'm trying to build it right now :)15:05
kergothnvld: each layer in bblayers gets its layer.conf parsed. each layer.conf adds the layer to BBPATH (so bitbake can find .conf and .bbclass files) and adds its recipes to BBFILES, so they can be parsed15:05
Smitty_So, why would meta/conf/layer.conf get parse, but not meta/conf/local.conf ?15:07
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rburtonSmitty_: every layer has a layer.conf.  oe-core has a local.conf.sample, which is a template.15:37
kergothgenerally speaking we don't like it when layers automatically enable functionality when they're included. we prefer the ability to include any number of layers, and control what functionality is enabled from the distro, machine, or local.conf. distros shouldn't affect the build unless we change our distro to that one, same for machines with their layers, and other random layers as well. It's actually part of the yocto compliance/compatibility criteria15:38
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rburtonSmitty_: the important thing is that meta/conf/local.conf doesn't exist.15:41
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Smitty_where's the guidance over what belongs in each file.  because looking at the various flavors of conf, bb, etc.. files, I see lots of duplication sometime I find, for example BBFILES and BBPATH being set in more than one file in the same layer's configuration files (e.g. both layer.conf and bblayers.conf)15:45
rburtonall layers will *extend* those15:46
rburtonas that's pretty much what the job of layer.conf is for15:46
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SomeDumbBumb_So, why do they also show up in bblayers.conf ?16:42
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SomeDumbBumb_rburton: why do BBFILES and BBPATH get modified in layer.conf and bblayers.conf ?17:32
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Crofton|workhmm, where is the yocto-layer script?17:56
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kergothCrofton|work: meta-yocto/meta-poky, for some reason. i guess due to its name?18:02
kergothshould really go into oe-core or bitbake-layers + oe-core templates or something18:03
* kergoth shrugs18:03
Crofton|workin dev manual18:03
Crofton|workcan be done by hand, just confusing how the stuff is split18:04
kergothit's pretty obviously generally useful, particularly combined with bitbake-layers, for scripting18:04
Crofton|workespecially once you create your own distro, you lose tools18:04
kergothyocto-layer create + bitbake-layers add-layer, ..18:04
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kergothshould open a bug to get it moved into oe-core18:07
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joshuaglplease do18:08
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Crofton|workI'll do it18:13
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vm_if i do bitbake -e u-boot  it tells me Nothing provides "u-boot"    but i build raslpberry-pi with u-boot18:36
vm_how can i find out what u-boot the raspberry recipe uses18:38
kergothbitbake -e virtual/bootloader | grep \^FILE=18:38
kergothor PN=, take your pick18:38
vm_both return nothing18:39
kergothremove the grep, what's the error?18:40
vm_nothing provide virtual/bootloader18:40
vm_i have build this image with toaster, perhaps this changed something18:41
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Crofton|workDone: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1156718:42
yoctiBug 11567: normal, Undecided, ---, paul.eggleton, NEW , Trying to create an new layer with the yocto-layer script fails.18:42
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vm_also the last command was bitbake meta-toolchain, with this pkg-name i get an environment back with bitbake -e meta-toolchain18:45
vm_do i need to run bitbake core-image-minimal again to get bitbake -e virtual/bootloader18:46
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vm_seemed that building with toaster and then try to go on on cmdline is a bad thing18:50
vm_why does toaster not simply goes the normal way18:51
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joshuaglseebs: hi! a colleague just sent a pseudo patch to yocto@, your feedback would be appreciated21:12
ant_homezeddii, around?21:16
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seebsI'm not sure I'm on yocto@. forward?21:29
joshuaglwill do21:30
joshuaglseebs: sent21:32
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Crofton|work-ETOOMANYLISTS :(21:35
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seebsjoshuagl: thank you. yeah, i'll merge that. so funny trivia point: clinically, i am not *quite* dyslexic. but i'm sorta close.22:29
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paulgI dnot beleive taht.22:30
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* paulg has known seebs for quite a few years -- just in case anyone thought I was just being a drive-by jerk.22:39
seebsno the funny thing is i read that and thought "haha he switched letters in 'that' to make fun of me"22:40
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seebsabout 70-80% of pseudo's "i thought i fixed this but it won't compile" have involved things like reversing the orders of words in #defines, etc22:41
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berndhshello folks, I'm trying to build for a raspi323:23
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berndhswhen I run bitbake, it tells me that MACHINE=raspberrypi3 is invalid23:24
berndhshow do I add the meta-raspberry stuff to the configurations ?23:24
berndhsis anyone here?23:25
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itserisHave you added meta-raspberry to your conf/bblayers.conf file?23:37
paulgfor example...23:38
paulgBBLAYERS ?= " \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-poky \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-raspberrypi \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-openembedded/meta-oe \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-openembedded/meta-oe \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-openembedded/meta-python \23:38
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-openembedded/meta-networking \23:39
paulg  /home/paul/poky/meta-yocto-bsp \23:39
paulg  "23:39
berndhsah let me try that23:39
* paulg notes he has meta-oe 2x23:39
paulgthat makes it twice as good, right?23:40
berndhsah it is much mroe persistent now23:41
berndhsthere is hope :)23:41
paulggood to hear.23:42
berndhsi figured for my robots, i will use a raspi and soem arduinos to control the legs23:43
berndhsso i want yocto for the raspi main body brain23:43
berndhsrahter than fedora or opensuse or something23:44
paulgGNU Hurd on rpi3.    I'd pay $ to see that.  :)23:45
berndhsoh i'm not that ambitious23:47
berndhsjust want to make small robots for house and garden23:47
berndhsmaybe for small farms23:47
berndhsso the people can eat :)23:48
paulgwell, good luck ; we'll help with questions as we can.23:51
berndhsall right, thank yiou23:52
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