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| khem | rburton_: is the klogd from busybox? | 02:45 |
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| khem | rburton_: we also need to make sure that kernel is compiled with -fno-PIE -no-pie | 02:46 |
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| yohboy | Hi there, I'm trying to add apache2 and php support for apache2 in my image (working on morty branch), both are working separately, but php doesn't work on apache. I built php-modphp for php support on apache, and bbappend the recipe to add PACKAGECONFIG_append_class-target = " apache2", but still does not work | 07:17 |
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| yohboy | also, the env var PHP5 is not set, so the conf 70_mod_php5 is not load | 07:18 |
| yohboy | https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/blob/morty/meta-oe/recipes-devtools/php/php/70_mod_php5.conf | 07:18 |
| yohboy | someone already deal with apache and php ? | 07:19 |
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| ecksun | how come I get a QA error (expanded-d) when using ${D} in pkg_preinst? the docs say you shouldnt but not why | 07:38 |
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| jku | rburton_: do you want me to do something with mut and mut2 builds from last night? | 08:36 |
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| LetoTheII | from what i gather, devtool does not offer an equivalent to -c clean/-c cleansstate - so how could i force a full recipe rebulid there properly? | 08:43 |
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| olani | LetoTheII: bitbake -c clean | 09:19 |
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| olani | LetoTheII: I don't see any usecase for cleansstate with devtool, but use bitbake -c cleanstate if you need to | 09:19 |
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| luc4 | Hello! I’m trying to add oracle java to my image but I’m getting “HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Authorization Required” during the fetch. Anyone who knows how to fix this? Maybe I’m missing something? | 09:20 |
| jku | luc4: have you read the layer readme? it's probably oracle being oracle with regards to licenses... | 09:29 |
| luc4 | jku: yes, I did that already but it seems it still tries to download | 09:30 |
| luc4 | jku: maybe I’m missing that .done file? | 09:30 |
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| diego_r | Hey guys. Here's my entry for "weird thing of the day". I've been trying to debug for a while I can't access https addresses (same problem with curl, wget or whatever) up until the uptime of my board was between 10 and 15 minutes. http addresses always work fine, https only after that wait time. Investigations brought the suspects towards gnutls using /dev/random, and /dev/random being *very* slow at initializing. After 10- | 09:38 |
| diego_r | 15 minutes in fact I get: https://pastebin.com/ya4fY1GY | 09:38 |
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| diego_r | Question is: could my core-image-minimal be too minimal to generate enough entropy at boot? Is there a good entropy generator in poky (or other layers)? | 09:40 |
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| rburton_ | diego_r: are you sshing to the board? | 09:42 |
| diego_r | the gnutls error immediately follows "random: nonblocking pool is initialized" | 09:42 |
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| diego_r | rburton_: happens regardless of me ssh-ing or not | 09:43 |
| rburton_ | keyboard input is a prime source of entropy you see | 09:43 |
| rburton_ | so a minimal image over ssh has very little entropy | 09:43 |
| rburton_ | "sysctl kernel.random.entropy_avail" will tell you how much is in the pool | 09:44 |
| rburton_ | to verify if its a lack of entropy itself | 09:44 |
| diego_r | rburton_: indeed /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail is 0 as soon as I root login via command line | 09:44 |
| diego_r | yep, 0 also checking with sysctl of course | 09:45 |
| rburton_ | theres a number of entropy daemons you can use | 09:45 |
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| rburton_ | your board may have a hardware RNG generator that you can enable | 09:47 |
| diego_r | rburton_: yep, my i.MX6 seems to provide /dev/hwrng | 09:47 |
| rburton_ | so you probably want to use rng-tools to feed that into the pool | 09:48 |
| rburton_ | or something, ask freescale | 09:48 |
| rburton_ | jku: haven't looked at mut2 yet how bad was it? :/ | 09:48 |
| diego_r | rburton_: thanks for your precious help | 09:49 |
| jku | rburton_: well... I haven't checked extensively so not sure if the same failures, but lots of red anyway | 09:50 |
| jku | sanity tests and build failures | 09:50 |
| jku | I'll have a closer look | 09:51 |
| rburton_ | ah, kanavin was right: qt4 is hosed | 09:55 |
| bluelightning | might be time for retirement then unless someone steps up to fix it | 09:56 |
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| ChrysD | Hi ! I checked that the VPU from I.MX6 have two version of driver, one for linux-imx, one for linux-mainline. How can I be sure of the one is used besides the fact of looking for kernevel version? Like to see if there is backport... | 09:59 |
| jku | kanavin: have you seen the dnf sanity failures: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-x86-64/builds/333/steps/Running%20Sanity%20Tests/logs/stdio | 10:00 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : if you remember, yesterday night i asked to know which kernel I have. So I followed your tips | 10:17 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : and I get linux-mainline_4.1.36-phy3.bb | 10:17 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : But when i do uname -a it tells that is a linux-imx | 10:18 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : so what does uname -a read? | 10:21 |
| tlk | has some add an engine to OpenSSL on Yocto? | 10:22 |
| tlk | I am running into a lot of problems to have it compile (it is compiling externally with the toolchain generated by Yocto) | 10:22 |
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| jku | rburton_: any idea about this one https://autobuilder.yocto.io/builders/nightly-arm/builds/376/steps/Running%20ESDK%20Sanity%20Tests/logs/stdio | 10:37 |
| rburton_ | that is not useful | 10:38 |
| rburton_ | oh its because the step before failed | 10:39 |
| rburton_ | so yes it didn't write the images | 10:39 |
| jku | oh right | 10:40 |
| jku | so the fact that it tries to run that step is probably a bug somewhere? | 10:42 |
| rburton_ | would be nice if the steps would be able to have explicit deps and can skip run-tests if build-images worked | 10:44 |
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| edgar444 | how do i create a task within bbclass that runs after do_image and only lists in `bitbake -c listtasks core-image-*` aka not every single recipie. I want to take rootfs, kernel, dtb, and create a uboot image. And I could just INHERIT += 'kernelitb' like mender does it for its .sdimg in DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE | 10:48 |
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| jku | is Leo (sandoval) here btw? | 10:51 |
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| rburton_ | jku: lsandov is marked as away | 10:52 |
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| joshuagl | it's not even 06:00 for him | 10:53 |
| jku | oh yes :) | 10:53 |
| rburton_ | ah thanks, was about to look up the time :) | 10:53 |
| rburton_ | irc really needs localtime support | 10:53 |
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| kanavin | ChrysD: man 2 uname | 11:08 |
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| luc4 | jku: I probably succeeded in downloading the package manually. The .done file is mandatory it seems. However I’m getting this now: https://pastebin.com/9sMB4MBn. It seems like it expects Java 8, but the package in the layer is named ejre-7u${PV_UPDATE}-fcs-b${BUILD_NUMBER}-linux-arm-vfp-hflt-client_headless-07_may_2014.tar.gz. Isn’t this weird? | 11:08 |
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| rburton_ | jku: top work on SWATing | 11:10 |
| rburton_ | jku: as i see your mails i've been reverting patches, so shout when you think you've looked at the main failures and i can refire mut2 | 11:10 |
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| kanavin | jku: nope - I guess it's because of dnf update to latest upstream. Strange that the same error does not occur when building images (which I did test) | 11:11 |
| kanavin | rburton_: ^^^ | 11:12 |
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| jku | rburton_: thanks, I think I'm done now. the qt4 failure you saw already | 11:12 |
| rburton_ | cheers | 11:13 |
| kanavin | jku: rburton_: the qt4 failure should be dealt with by removing qt4 builds from the autobuilder | 11:13 |
| rburton_ | yes | 11:13 |
| kanavin | enough is enough :) | 11:13 |
| jku | yeah agreed | 11:13 |
| rburton_ | for now i'll remove the upgrade, and file a bug for joshuagl :) | 11:13 |
| kanavin | I'll look into dnf stuff now, as I have nothing else to do before holiday starts at the end of the week | 11:14 |
| kanavin | jku: I wanted to try the boot2qt image on one of your NUCs, but I guess that will wait | 11:15 |
| jku | kanavin: feel free to take any | 11:15 |
| kanavin | jku: they do not support qemu (because of required opengl support, I think) | 11:15 |
| kanavin | jku: sure, just would be better to have you present too | 11:16 |
| jku | ok | 11:16 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : already done... it's just say that it give system information | 11:27 |
| Crofton|work | +1 for remove qt4 and add qt5! | 11:27 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: adding qt5 is not going to happen :) | 11:28 |
| Crofton|work | sato forever! | 11:28 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: qt folks have their own distro called boot2qt, which I'm now investigating | 11:29 |
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| Crofton|work | hmm, interesting | 11:29 |
| Crofton|work | who are these people? | 11:29 |
| Crofton|work | or url? | 11:29 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: they're not particularly forthcoming about its content, because it forms the base for their commercial embedded offering, but the layer is open source | 11:30 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: http://code.qt.io/cgit/yocto/meta-boot2qt.git/tree/README | 11:30 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : AH ok i understand !! You asked me to do "man 2 uname "... I didn't understand that is a the command... but sometimes like... man to uname.. | 11:30 |
| kanavin | ChrysD: yes, uname is a command and a kernel syscall | 11:30 |
| kanavin | man uname will give you the command, man 2 uname will give you the syscall details | 11:31 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : i didn't know about "man 2 " | 11:31 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : i was doing man uname as usually ahahah | 11:31 |
| kanavin | ChrysD: manual pages are split in sections | 11:31 |
| Crofton|work | lots of bbappends | 11:32 |
| Crofton|work | weird | 11:32 |
| Crofton|work | it would be really nice to have more modern images suitbale for tradeshow demos | 11:33 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: yeah, it's not a work of beauty, and latest supported release is morty | 11:33 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 11:33 |
| Crofton|work | very diplomatic :) | 11:33 |
| rburton_ | appends are better than copy/pastes :) | 11:34 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: also, they do not support qemu, if you want emulator, it's virtualbox | 11:34 |
| Crofton|work | very diplomatic :) | 11:34 |
| Crofton|work | emulaors are so last decade :) | 11:34 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : even morty is far new when you say the average commercial meta versions... | 11:34 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : see* | 11:34 |
| kanavin | ChrysD: I live in a oe-core maintenance bubble | 11:34 |
| kanavin | ChrysD: 99,5% of my time is spent on the master branch | 11:35 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : and me understanding all that stuff | 11:35 |
| ChrysD | kanavin xD | 11:35 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 11:35 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : I'm a big noob in everything and trying to make a report of how to use yocto and why the meta bsp of the vendor choosen is good/bad | 11:35 |
| Crofton|work | a pox on vendors with ancient rubbish :) | 11:35 |
| Crofton|work | ChrysD, if you fix version and stay on it | 11:36 |
| Crofton|work | you lose support from the larger project after a year | 11:36 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : and when I see that the BSP vendor use a kernel with the wrong drivers for VPU and with the wrong gstreamer plugins... I realize that with linux embedded systems, is the software that drives the hardware choose ahahah | 11:36 |
| Crofton|work | so you need internnal CVE tracking team to keep your stuff up to date (wrt to CVE's) | 11:37 |
| Crofton|work | so you can use resources to maintain your code to current releases, or maintain other peoples code to old releases | 11:37 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : So a big team that will do ton of backport from linux-mainline and make it working with linux-imx and pray that enegineer from that company works well and fastly to get features ahahah | 11:37 |
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| Crofton|work | or supstrream as much as you can | 11:38 |
| Crofton|work | typically for non business specific items | 11:38 |
| Crofton|work | and focus on your area of expertise | 11:38 |
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| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Yeah but when the bsp vendor is providing a kind of out of box meta which include lot of fork, backport and copy/paste | 11:39 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : you are very dependant from them | 11:39 |
| Crofton|work | but how long to they provide support? | 11:39 |
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| ChrysD | Crofton|work : the problem isn't support, the problem is tom ake it working | 11:39 |
| Crofton|work | and do they support all layers | 11:39 |
| Crofton|work | heh | 11:39 |
| Crofton|work | basically, invest time and efoort now or later | 11:40 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : They are only on krogoth version and says that video works well... But they are using the wrong gstreamer plugins with the wrong driver and the wrong kernel. | 11:40 |
| Crofton|work | also, vendors need feedabck that customers see this problem | 11:40 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Yeah I have done a big report of my investigation | 11:40 |
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| Crofton|work | also they need feedback their work is junk :) | 11:40 |
| Crofton|work | I find that the typical vendor engineer knows they have iussues, but their management tells them customers are not complaining | 11:41 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : but you know, i'm a young guy in a complex world so how reliable I can be... that's the question I faced. | 11:42 |
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| ChrysD | Crofton|work : So I make an effort to understand what are the philosophy inside and making test... | 11:42 |
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| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Like for exemple, when you have an Issue, sometimes you know where to start. Like when I get many gstreamer problems, I thougth that the fault was more because of me and how I use the tool and maybe not the software made by a team of engineers that "supposely and surely" know what they are doing. | 11:44 |
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| Crofton|work | ChrysD, I completely understand your situation | 11:44 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : I started to contact maintener of the codes and tools directlty... And it's from there that I understand why it "couldn't " work | 11:45 |
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| ChrysD | Crofton|work : I had lot of support from the #yocto channel #gstreamer channel and ##linux channel and helped me because when you check for information on net with multiple document it make me like a bit confuse. Using something and undesrtanding something is quite different. | 11:46 |
| Crofton|work | in a way, open project hurt themselves because the amount of work is invisible to managers | 11:47 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : When you have as only background skill, using as an user Ubuntu.. You don't really know how linux works ahahah. So it make complicate to have a kind of workflow to how to debug. | 11:47 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : i have started to go deep into gstreamer code | 11:47 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : When somebody tells me just that question " What's the gstreamer you are using, which kernel are you using". | 11:47 |
| Crofton|work | well good luck | 11:48 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : and the plugins ' that the bsp vendor tell me to use ' wasn't made for the drivers that is inside the kernel i'm using and the development of the tool ' at the moment of the version of the kernel' wasn't good. | 11:48 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : So know I know a little more of what are the question i should ask my self to try to debug... | 11:49 |
| Crofton|work | feels like vendot made one specific set of stuff owrked, declared victory and moved on | 11:49 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : But the plugins was made to use a driver of the linux-mainline... but they are using linux-imx. So couldn't work ahah | 11:49 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : But the commercial says that its works... As supposely it "hardwarely" can work. | 11:49 |
| Crofton|work | I suspect the gstreamer guys can't support all vendors special kernels | 11:50 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : and as my team come from the microcontrollers worlds ans RTOS worlds which most of time they do 100% of the software jobs in their own... for them buying a board is only matter of the hardware and the software doesn't really matter | 11:50 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : So when you see, oh , there is a video decoder and it's compatible with krogoth version... it should work as the linux open source world is really rich.... Until you know that the darkside of it is most of time bsp vendor fork project and you don't have this rich ecosystem. | 11:51 |
| rburton_ | ChrysD: if you want to use vendor hardware then you tend to need to use the entire stack. you can kick a fuss if its ancient, but at least if you use what they support then you can get help from them if it doesn't work | 11:51 |
| Crofton|work | heh | 11:52 |
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| Crofton|work | assuming they have an effective support team .... | 11:52 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : so the consideration, the choice you made on linux embdded system are a bit different when you choose a microcontroller or a board with RTOS support... | 11:52 |
| rburton_ | Crofton|work: yeah big assumption | 11:53 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Like for example when you make the choice of the board, you shall now before buying, what you would like ... So " i want video streaming". Ok let's check to what the linux ecosystem give... Ok gstreamr cool ! So it should work... But no warning ! Look if in the software of the board, it's using the good version with the good kernel... etc etc etc | 11:54 |
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| Crofton|work | the evaluation should be look at the vendors sw practices and compare with best practices | 11:55 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : yeah | 11:55 |
| Crofton|work | in a perfect world | 11:55 |
| Crofton|work | annoyingly, sometimes the vendor with the best hardware ahsd the worst software practices | 11:55 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : but when you didn't know what linux is.... And you think that yocto is the name of an Ikea furniture... You need to experience once. | 11:55 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 11:56 |
| Crofton|work | Yocto is Ikea furntiture | 11:56 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : And it's the point where I am. So i can tell the team here that the compared to " microcontroller and RTOS world" the software is a big chooce. | 11:57 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Because before in industry you get the work of developer, but more and more you have the work of integrator | 11:57 |
| Crofton|work | yep | 11:57 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : and that's what I understood so that you can drive your project only by the hardware capabilities | 11:57 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : you can't * | 11:58 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : So it was very rich for my internship. | 11:59 |
| Crofton|work | I suspect this culture transition is partly why the hardware vendors are getting away with vendor kernels | 11:59 |
| Crofton|work | the attitude you own the entire stack for your hw | 12:00 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : and the problem is also the buyer... That it doesn't really know how you can judge a linux embedded system vendor | 12:01 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : Because if there is a HW decoder on your board, supposely, they support well that. | 12:01 |
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| diego_r | rburton_: rng-tools much improved the situation. Still it takes something like a minute (compared to 10-15 mins previously) to get "nonblocking pool is initialized". Strange is entropy is (seemingly) high since when login prompt is ready kernel.random.entropy_avail = 3095. | 12:04 |
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| ChrysD | diego_r : What does "nonblocking pool is initialized" means? I have it lot of time. | 12:08 |
| Crofton|work | ChrysD, https://www.google.com/search?q=nonblocking+pool+is+initialized&oq=nonblocking+pool+is+initialized&aqs=chrome..69i57.650j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 | 12:11 |
| diego_r | ChrysD: it means the random.c driver has enough entropy to provide /dev/random | 12:11 |
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| ChrysD | diego_r : so that mean that software which depends on /dev/random have to wait until that message. | 12:13 |
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| diego_r | ChrysD: https://forums.xilinx.com/t5/Embedded-Linux/random-nonblocking-pool-is-initialized/m-p/739788#M17915 | 12:13 |
| ChrysD | diego_r : interesting! | 12:15 |
| diego_r | ChrysD: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/drivers/char/random.c?h=v4.1.15#n658 | 12:15 |
| diego_r | Interestingly the printout has been removed (or moved) in recent kernels | 12:15 |
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| ChrysD | diego_r : thanks | 12:18 |
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| plp | Hi. Does anyone know why do_kernel_configcheck is so slow? If a several fragments remove various lines from the .config file, it spends more than 20 minutes to complete the task | 12:31 |
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| otavio | Crofton|work: we've been getting some less fragmentation mantaining a common fslc kernel base | 12:38 |
| Crofton|work | good :) | 12:38 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: few vendors are using it as base for their bsp | 12:39 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: not perfect but a step further | 12:39 |
| Crofton|work | we need to make progress :) | 12:39 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: Phytec, is not of one using it ;-) | 12:39 |
| Crofton|work | linux-yocto is not perfect, but using it + patches at leasts show delta from mainline | 12:40 |
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| Crofton|work | or lts kernel | 12:40 |
| eddi | hallo | 12:40 |
| diego_r | btw, thanks otavio for your wic integration work in meta-freescale-3rdparty, I'm using it a lot! | 12:40 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: right but usually ARM-based BSP has a bunch of patches | 12:41 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: so not easy to put | 12:41 |
| otavio | diego_r: :-) | 12:41 |
| otavio | diego_r: check the 'use-mainline-bsp' override ;-) | 12:41 |
| Crofton|work | conditioning vendors to build recipe with linux-yocto + patches, then upstream patches so next release has fewer patches is a path to easy maintenance | 12:42 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: agreed but not many vendors does it; also their upgrade roadmaps does not match with yp ones | 12:42 |
| Crofton|work | yeah, this is a headache | 12:43 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: as their delta is big, it is not trivial | 12:43 |
| Crofton|work | need a work flow that moves them in the right direction | 12:43 |
| diego_r | otavio: I've seen that too, VERY useful thanks | 12:43 |
| otavio | Crofton|work: i've been trying | 12:43 |
| otavio | diego_r: :-) | 12:43 |
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| eddi | I need help. I want to overwrite a device tree with another one in a bbappend. I want to copy this dt in the do_build_prepend() task and use the variable $S. But this points to the work directory. But the kernel sources are in the work-shared directory. Is there another variable that could I use to point to the right kernel sources? | 12:44 |
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| otavio | eddi: prepare a patch | 12:45 |
| otavio | eddi: best practice | 12:45 |
| eddi | Ok. I try this. Thanks. | 12:47 |
| ChrysD | Crofton|work : I guess sometimes you made some quite of decisions as an engineer between what's the delay the leaders give you to do and develop so that did not give you enough time and making a kidn of " make it working" | 12:49 |
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| Duffy__ | Hi, I'm building a new dts for my use and have to add it to the makefile but the makefile in the /arch/arm/boot/dts gets rebuilded when I start bitbake. From where does bitbake get the information on how to build the makefile? And how may I change that or get my value to display there? | 12:53 |
| edgar444 | Can I get ${DEPLOYDIR} within do_image_custom? | 12:59 |
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| kanavin | jku: rburton: updated patchset for dnf ready | 13:01 |
| rburton | cool | 13:02 |
| rburton | thanks alex | 13:02 |
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| otavio | rburton: check mesa one pls | 13:05 |
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| kanavin | rburton: I am going on holiday for 3 weeks after tomorrow | 13:13 |
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| kanavin | rburton: ad hoc car trip in bavaria :) | 13:13 |
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| kanavin | the car is booked, but nothing else | 13:14 |
| rburton | sounds like that could be fun | 13:14 |
| rburton | have a good time | 13:14 |
| rburton | i'll throw the dnf series at the ab shortly to see what happens | 13:14 |
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| kanavin | cheers | 13:15 |
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| rburton | kanavin: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/tgrid <-- just master+your 3 patches, so it should be fast and green right? :) | 13:16 |
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| luc4 | Hello! Anyone else getting this when trying to add oracle java to an arm image: https://pastebin.com/9sMB4MBn? It seems like rules are for java 8, while the package is for java 7. Any idea? | 13:17 |
| alexgeorgescu | @luc4 seems that the paste has been removed | 13:18 |
| rburton | jku: the checkuri failure on the mut2 respin was transient, it appears to work now | 13:18 |
| kanavin | rburton: I can neither confirm nor deny anything whatsoever :) | 13:18 |
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| kanavin | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomar_response | 13:18 |
| luc4 | alexgeorgescu: weird, I just opened it…. this is another one https://pastebin.com/yXYN78t0 | 13:18 |
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| * kanavin is *super* impressed with boot2qt | 13:34 | |
| kanavin | as expected, it's light years ahead of sato :) | 13:34 |
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| kanavin | bluelightning: ^^^ | 13:35 |
| bluelightning | kanavin: cool - sounds like I should try it out | 13:35 |
| kanavin | bluelightning: if you have a NUC around, I can give you a link to the image I built | 13:35 |
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| rburton | kanavin: congrats you're now in charge of demo machines at the next conf | 13:36 |
| ChrysD | kanavin : is it ironical? | 13:36 |
| bluelightning | kanavin: I don't unfortunately | 13:37 |
| rburton | kanavin: i do link please | 13:37 |
| kanavin | rburton: just a sec, first I send bluelightning a screenshot :-) | 13:39 |
| rburton | sure | 13:39 |
| kanavin | bluelightning: you should have a screenshot at least :) | 13:43 |
| bluelightning | kanavin: thanks, looks neat | 13:45 |
| otavio | kanavin: may I see it? | 13:47 |
| * otavio is curious | 13:47 | |
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| kanavin | otavio: the image size is 1.4 gigabytes, but I can forward you the screenshot, sure | 13:48 |
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| otavio | kanavin: it is fine; I am on a good internet now ;-) | 13:50 |
| otavio | LOL | 13:50 |
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| diego_r | yay for broadband in Pelotas :-) | 13:51 |
| kanavin | otavio: I am uploading the image now to google drive | 13:53 |
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| kanavin | surprisingly not very slow | 13:54 |
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| otavio | ;-D | 13:58 |
| otavio | diego_r: \m/ | 13:58 |
| kanavin | https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_LMOpJvp7Vrc1NtUWxYZUpybWs | 13:59 |
| kanavin | otavio: rburton: bluelightning: ^^^ | 13:59 |
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| otavio | kanavin: screenshot? | 14:01 |
| kanavin | otavio: that's the image for the NUC | 14:02 |
| otavio | kanavin: i got the image; will get a NUC to try | 14:02 |
| otavio | kanavin: dd for usd? | 14:02 |
| kanavin | otavio: yes | 14:02 |
| otavio | good | 14:02 |
| kanavin | usb | 14:02 |
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| kanavin | otavio: forwarded you the screenshot by email too | 14:03 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : why so happy about that boot2qt? | 14:06 |
| diego_r | maybe 'cause sato is so horrible :-D | 14:07 |
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| kanavin | ChrysD: because Yocto needs a 'real UI' | 14:08 |
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| Duffy__ | How can I tell bitbake that I want him to update the dts files? I build one it compiled but now that I updated it he just skips it cause he knows it. | 14:28 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : what do you mean by yocto need an UI ? You mean driving a yocto project through a UI instead of commandline by having a kind of image that give a live system to computer for building systems? | 14:48 |
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| majuk | Duffy__: I forced it to rebuild the DTB by deleting the one in the ../build/tmp/work-shared/ directory. I forget where exactly it lives, but find should be able to pull it out for you. | 15:03 |
| majuk | I imagine there's a better way, but I'm dumb. | 15:03 |
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| Duffy__ | Thats smarter than what I did :-) Just naming them by higher numbers can get me into a lot of trouble. Ty | 15:07 |
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| LetoThe2nd | whats the intended usage of image-container.bbclass? i set my trivial test case to inherit it, but all i get then is a bunch of json files | 15:22 |
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| yates | i'm trying to build the cross-compile toolchain as described here: http://variwiki.com/index.php?title=Yocto_Toolchain_installation&release=RELEASE_MORTY_V1.0_DART-6UL | 15:26 |
| yates | i've setup the yocto environment | 15:26 |
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| yates | but the second command in section 2, MACHINE=imx6ul-var-dart DISTRO=fslc-x11 build_x11, fails with "failed, build_x11 not found" | 15:27 |
| yates | what am i missing? | 15:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | yates: this build_x11 seems to be some variscite specific script | 15:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | most probably you missed to source the environment that brings the path for it | 15:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | see also http://variwiki.com/index.php?title=Yocto_Build_Release&release=RELEASE_MORTY_V1.0_DART-6UL#Build_X11_GUI_demo_image | 15:30 |
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| yates | thanks LetoThe2nd | 15:37 |
| tlk | OpenSSL is not installing the engines in /usr/lib/ssl/engines | 15:38 |
| tlk | how to fix that? | 15:38 |
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| yates | LetoThe2nd: it's not that i missed it, it's that they omitted (accidently, no doubt) it from that step of their wiki page. i.e., wrong directions... | 15:46 |
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| kanavin | ChrysD: no, what I mean is that when you boot a yocto image, what you see is either a cold, uncaring command line, or the sato interface, which is limited and outdated | 16:06 |
| kanavin | ChrysD: we need something graphical that showcases common embedded use cases in a modern, pretty UI, and boot2qt fills that gap fantastically | 16:07 |
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| Crofton|work | "cold, uncaring command line" | 16:09 |
| * Crofton|work takes offense! | 16:09 | |
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| kanavin | Crofton|work: if you want to play with boot2qt, Iposted the link to the image above :) | 16:12 |
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| ChrysD | kanavin : Are you speaking about a splash screen? | 16:15 |
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| Crofton|work | kanavin, for NUC? I suppose I should spin a build for my rpi-3 | 16:27 |
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| Crofton|work | although I do not want to unseat myself as demo master for YP stand | 16:28 |
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| kanavin | Crofton|work: yep, it's a NUC image | 16:34 |
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| Crofton|work | I don't have a NUC | 17:00 |
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| ecksun | how come I get a QA error (expanded-d) when using ${D} in pkg_preinst? the docs say you shouldnt but not why | 17:11 |
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| LetoThe2nd | whats the intended usage of image-container.bbclass? i set my trivial test case to inherit it, but all i get then is a bunch of json files | 18:42 |
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| * Crofton|work studies meta-boot2qt to figure out how it works without all the stuff to make it "easy" | 18:59 | |
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| kanavin | Crofton|work: you might find this helpful http://doc.qt.io/QtForDeviceCreation/qtee-custom-embedded-linux-image.html | 19:13 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: exporting MACHINE is important or nothing will work as advertised :) | 19:14 |
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| Crofton|work | heh, I figure I can work it out from first principles | 19:14 |
| Crofton|work | I'll lol hard if meta-poky is required :) | 19:15 |
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| kanavin | Crofton|work: they hide that part, they do their own layer fetching, and you don't need to know or care | 19:15 |
| Crofton|work | ah, but I do care :) | 19:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | actually i second Crofton|work. to me theres no point in them doing another set of magic tricks to hide the oe mechanisms | 19:17 |
| Crofton|work | it does look like I add to my checout and add a couple of layers to bblayers, then work out required settings in local.conf for distroless build | 19:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | why cant' they just pour stuff into a layer and properly document its usage? | 19:18 |
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| Crofton|work | everyone is special :) | 19:18 |
| Crofton|work | interesting | 19:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | of course. especially me, i'm the most special of all! | 19:19 |
| Crofton|work | they have a distro.conf and use meta-poky | 19:19 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: because it's primarily a commercial shrinkwrapped product right now, they will ship you a big blob, and everything is done via Qt Creator IDE | 19:20 |
| kanavin | cloning meta-boot2qt and working with it from command line works, but is not supported or encouraged in any way | 19:20 |
| kanavin | it's a bit of luck that layer is even published, as they could as well keep it hidden | 19:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: which makes only sense if you are the hardware vendor and want to sell the platform. in their case, i jsut find it annoying for people who already knwo their way around OE | 19:21 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: this is how they market the stuff https://www.qt.io/qt-for-device-creation/ | 19:21 |
| kanavin | "request a free trial" | 19:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | hooray | 19:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | i found the documentation and proceeding so scary that i shied away from giving it a try | 19:22 |
| Crofton|work | if we use it to promote OE, we need to understand how it works and fits in to what we want to promote | 19:22 |
| Crofton|work | I'm all for peopl etryin gto profit, but I expect them to be good community memebrs also | 19:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | at the moment this is to me totally not what i would recommend to anybody lloking for a ui platform that fits into the oe ecosystem/mindset | 19:23 |
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| LetoThe2nd | as it seems to just feast on the ecosystem and ignore the mindset. | 19:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | anyways, can anybody shed some light on the intended usecase of https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/classes/image-container.bbclass for me? | 19:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | look like it should be an additional inherit after inherit image, and just trigger some warning if you don't use linux-dummy | 19:25 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: maybe, but the UI is light years ahead of sato, so I suggest we talk to them and find common ground :) I can imagine they would be very happy to become the officially endorsed UI of oe/yocto | 19:26 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: ^ | 19:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: do we know whos behind it? | 19:26 |
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| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: the Qt Company of course - same people making Qt itself | 19:27 |
| vickylinuxer | hi yocto | 19:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: yeah, but some mastermind specifically? like jama for meta-oe, koen/khem/xora for angstrom, RP/rburton for us... ;-) | 19:28 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: layer's README does list a person :) | 19:28 |
| kanavin | http://code.qt.io/cgit/yocto/meta-boot2qt.git/tree/README | 19:29 |
| kanavin | and I can see that he has maybe half the commits in the repo | 19:29 |
| vickylinuxer | I am working on creating a symlink to a library to another directory. ex.. /lib64/libxyz -> /lib | 19:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: sounds like we should try to get in touch | 19:30 |
| vickylinuxer | I found IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND is not useful | 19:30 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: yes, of course | 19:30 |
| Crofton|work | i'M GLAD THEY ARE USING META-QT5 | 19:30 |
| Crofton|work | der | 19:31 |
| Crofton|work | what I really need is a tool to let me fiddle with bblayers :) | 19:31 |
| vickylinuxer | because it put the full path from system | 19:31 |
| * LetoThe2nd hands Crofton|work a vim binary | 19:32 | |
| LetoThe2nd | here you go | 19:32 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 19:32 |
| vickylinuxer | Is there any efficient method to make symlink within rootfs | 19:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | vickylinuxer: this sounds like a xy problem. you're doing x, and think y is a way to archieve your goal. you're stuck doing y, and ask us about it. why not just ask about x directly? | 19:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | vickylinuxer: any recipe can do symlinks in the install stage. but like i said - it sounds like xy | 19:33 |
| kanavin | Crofton|work: except they use their own fork of meta-qt5 :) I really suggest you trust their layer fetching script :) | 19:34 |
| Crofton|work | that's absurd | 19:34 |
| vickylinuxer | But I want do it in image postprocess stage | 19:34 |
| jpew | None of my profesional dealings with Qt have given me the warm fuzzies.. unless you are willing to pay them | 19:35 |
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| kanavin | Crofton|work: but if you want to be dealing with mysterious build failures or an image that does not boot, be my guest... | 19:35 |
| Crofton|work | and pisses me off as they are pulling some of my work into their fork :) | 19:35 |
| jpew | vickylinuxer: Why specifically image postprocess stage? | 19:38 |
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| vickylinuxer | I dont want to add any bbappend for the recipe | 19:41 |
| vickylinuxer | I just wanna add it in some_image.bbappend / local.conf entry | 19:42 |
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| vickylinuxer | <jpew>: Sorry I am really dont know how to exactly reply to you. Newbie to IRC :-) | 19:44 |
| Crofton|work | vickylinuxer, you are doing better than most ... | 19:48 |
| jpew | vickylinuxer: Me too ;) AFAIK, you just type in the username + ":" manually before the message | 19:49 |
| vickylinuxer | jpew + ":" oh.. Thank You | 19:50 |
| jpew | vickylinuxer: lol, almost. just jpew: | 19:51 |
| vickylinuxer | jpew: Sorry. I messed up. Now it should be fine | 19:51 |
| jpew | vickylinxer: anyway, it is a little odd that you want to append an image but not a recipe | 19:52 |
| vickylinuxer | jpew: yes, I know.. But really I want to do this way. | 19:53 |
| jpew | vickylinuxer: Fair enough. I think you might hev 2 options: 1) make a new recipe that make the symlink, or 2) use IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND which *should* work... what issue did you have? | 19:54 |
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| vickylinuxer | jpew: I tried 2nd option. The symlinks are absolute path of from host (Ex., /home/user/..../libxyz). Not in a fakeroot environment | 19:57 |
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| vickylinuxer | jpew: I want it like ( /lib64/libxyz -> /lib/xyz) | 19:58 |
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| jpew | vickylinuxer: what does the "ln" command that you are using look like? | 20:01 |
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| vickylinuxer | jpew: ln -s ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/lib64/libxyz ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/lib | 20:03 |
| jpew | vickylinuxer: Ah, I think you need to omit the first ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}: ln -s /lib64/libxyz ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/lib | 20:04 |
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| bernarrrrrrrrrrr | hey everyone.. I'm trying to build my first layer (following a tutorial), which builds the nano text editor.. However, I'm getting an error I can't debug.. Can someone give me a hand? This is the error: https://pastebin.com/q46uLSsT this is the error's log: https://pastebin.com/tLr8RV1v this is the recipe: https://pastebin.com/DEsg8wUt I think the error is due to the do_fetch function in nano.bb, but I can't figure out why | 20:08 |
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| vickylinuxer | jpew: no words.. I hope this should workkkkkk.. Thanks a lot.. | 20:09 |
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| drewbert | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-cloud-services/tree/meta-openstack/recipes-devtools/python/python-pep8_1.6.2.bb seems to have a mismatched checksum in it | 21:46 |
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