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| Piziwate | Hello, I've a strange problem with poky pyro... My build system works with debian. I got an error during the do_rootfs : Could not invoke dnf (the dnf command says "ImportError: No module named 'dnf' "). Did you seen that before ? | 06:59 |
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| Piziwate | Hello, I've a strange problem with poky pyro... My build system works with debian. I got an error during the do_rootfs : Could not invoke dnf (the dnf command says "ImportError: No module named 'dnf' "). Did you seen that before ? | 07:22 |
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| fberg | hello guys ! Does anybody knows how to enable a systemd service at boot directly after a fresh image creation ? | 08:02 |
| fberg | I've tried to add to my recipe: | 08:02 |
| fberg | inherit systemd | 08:02 |
| fberg | SYSTEMD_SERVICE = "my.service" | 08:03 |
| fberg | SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE ?= "enable" | 08:03 |
| fberg | but it doesn't work | 08:03 |
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| janho | Hi all, When calling the do_rootfs of my core-image-minimal,my package installation failed beacause of an unresolved dependency: Computing transaction...error: Can't install caminspector-0.1-r0@cortexa9hf_vfp_neon: no package provides ld-linux.so.3(GLIBC_2.4) | 08:09 |
| janho | I've tried to append a recipe to glibc to create a link from /lib/ld-linux-armfh.so.3 to /lib/ld-linux.so.3, but it does not work. | 08:10 |
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| janho | here is my recipe glibc-2.22.bbappend: | 08:11 |
| janho | FILES_SOLIBSDEV = "" FILES_{PN} += " ${base_libdir}/ld-linux.so.3" | 08:13 |
| janho | do_install_append () { ln -s /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 ${D}/lib/ld-linux.so.3 } | 08:13 |
| janho | does anybody knows why my link is not recognized as a provided files ? | 08:14 |
| jku | fberg: see http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#ref-classes-systemd -- it's SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN} because it's about packages not recipes | 08:16 |
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| fberg | ty jku ! | 08:19 |
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| Piziwate | Hello, I've a strange problem with poky pyro... My build system works with debian. I got an error during the do_rootfs : Could not invoke dnf (the dnf command says "ImportError: No module named 'dnf' "). Did you seen that before ? | 08:40 |
| Ramose | Him how can one find do_deploy fuction of an recipe file ? | 08:42 |
| Ramose | s/him/how | 08:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | Ramose: bitbake -e | less doesnt' do the trick? | 08:43 |
| mcfrisk | Are there any docs/policies/statements from yocto how long stable branches will be maintained? https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Stable_branch_maintenance at least lists them, but would be nice to have some idea when planning poky updates.. | 08:43 |
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| Ramose | LetoThe2nd : bitbake -e | less ? | 08:44 |
| Ramose | thats all ? | 08:44 |
| Ramose | to find do_deploy of an recipe | 08:45 |
| rburton | mcfrisk: two releases | 08:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | Ramose: bitbake -e $YOURPACKAGENAME gives you the whole shbang that bitbake sees and uses for doing stuff for that recipe. so i'd expect do_deploy to be at least mentioned for further digging there. | 08:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | Ramose: the less is just so you can comfortably scroll and search | 08:47 |
| Ramose | ok, got it. | 08:47 |
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| mcfrisk | rburton: so previous two stable releases are always maintained? Is there some definition of maintenance anywhere? afaik stable branches do not get security updates that much, only some build etc fixes are applied. | 09:00 |
| rburton | stable supported branches get important bug fixes and security fixes | 09:00 |
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| Piziwate | nobody has a problem with dnf during the image do_rootfs ? | 09:10 |
| rburton | nope | 09:14 |
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| mcfrisk | rburton: so krogoth will be dropped to 'community support' when rocko is released in "Fall 2017"? Are there plans to stick to two releases per year? | 09:16 |
| rburton | yes, six monthly cycle | 09:16 |
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| mcfrisk | rburton: would be nice to have this info in https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Planning and/or https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases and https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Stable_branch_maintenance | 09:25 |
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| rburton | first paragraph under Policies on the stable branch maintenance page is basically what i said | 09:27 |
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| rburton | added a line about how the policy is last two | 09:30 |
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| mcfrisk | rburton, I think these are missing: two stable releases per year, two previous stable releases are supported and others in community support mode. | 09:32 |
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| eduardas_m | hello, can anyone tell me if KWin is able to run on the i.MX 6 SoC as a Wayland compositor using the proprietary Vivante drivers? | 10:55 |
| eduardas_m | apparently newer upstream versions of weston (newer than 1.11) can not, because the developers have deprecated the fbdev backend | 10:56 |
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| eduardas_m | so essentially I am looking for a Wayland compositor that could run on i.MX6 and would be maintained upstream | 10:58 |
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| ChrysD | eduardas_m : have you tried? | 11:03 |
| eduardas_m | ChrysD: no, I have not tried building KWin yet | 11:04 |
| ChrysD | eduardas_m : when you say weston can not, you mean using proprietary vivante drivers? | 11:05 |
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| eduardas_m | ChrysD: yes, but I am not sure if stuff like etnaviv would solve the problem either | 11:08 |
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| eduardas_m | ChrysD: this post shows that I am not the only one with this problem: https://community.nxp.com/thread/451590 | 11:24 |
| eduardas_m | no new weston in meta-freescale for i.MX6 beyond 1.11.1: https://github.com/Freescale/meta-freescale/commit/fa9281613e2b3b669b06b085ffaf51d61e48a94b | 11:26 |
| eduardas_m | weston developers deprecating fbdev backend: https://github.com/wayland-project/weston/commit/e77f8ad79bdf3613dc7e587ea0cf5b9d39e4f8e0 | 11:27 |
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| fberg | <jku> fberg: see http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#ref-classes-systemd -- it's SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN} because it's about packages not recipes | 11:39 |
| fberg | I've added the SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN}="myservice.service" in my app recipe. by the way the app after the boot process is not enabled by default | 11:40 |
| fberg | any suggestion ? | 11:41 |
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| zero_note | fberg: name of the recipe? | 11:52 |
| fberg | hostapd.bb | 11:52 |
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| zero_note | fberg: does the .service contains the [Install] section ? | 11:53 |
| fberg | I've a .bbappend that install a custome service in the proper ${D} servuce | 11:53 |
| fberg | o_install_append () { | 11:54 |
| fberg | install -d ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system/ | 11:54 |
| fberg | install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/myhostapd.service ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system/hostapd.service | 11:54 |
| fberg | } | 11:54 |
| zero_note | yocto version? | 11:55 |
| fberg | I can actually enable and start it correctly | 11:55 |
| fberg | but AFTER the boot | 11:55 |
| fberg | I'm using pyro | 11:55 |
| zero_note | fberg: use systemd_system_unitdir instead of systemd_unitdir | 11:55 |
| fberg | before the do_install_append statement I've added: | 11:56 |
| fberg | inherit systemd | 11:56 |
| fberg | SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE = "enable" | 11:56 |
| fberg | SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN}= "hostapd.service" | 11:56 |
| fberg | ok zero_note | 11:56 |
| zero_note | fberg: SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE = "enable" is not necessary as the default in systemd.bbclass is "enabled" | 11:57 |
| fberg | ok | 11:57 |
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| zero_note | fberg: note that ${D}${systemd_unitdir}/system/hostapd.service become to ${D}${systemd_system_unitdir}/hostapd.service | 12:23 |
| fberg | :) | 12:23 |
| fberg | I've noticed it know has the service is in the wrong folder | 12:23 |
| fberg | image #1000 for today | 12:24 |
| zero_note | sorry I forgot to specify | 12:24 |
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| fberg | it's not on you zero, thank you for help ! | 12:26 |
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| fberg | I've used ${D}${systemd_system_unitdir}/hostapd.service | 12:35 |
| fberg | but stll no success.. | 12:37 |
| fberg | no symbolyc link under /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants | 12:37 |
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| mckoan | which recipe provides libstdc++ on the target? | 12:40 |
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| joshuagl | $ oe-pkgdata-util lookup-recipe libstdc++6 | 12:43 |
| joshuagl | gcc-runtime | 12:43 |
| mckoan | joshuagl: great, thanks | 12:45 |
| rburton | khem: if the distro has ld-is-gold, can i force the ld to be not gold in a specific recipe? | 12:46 |
| zero_note | fberg: if I understand correctly, the hostapd package comes with its own .service (and from the recipe it should be disabled as of SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE_${PN} = "disable") | 12:46 |
| zero_note | but you're trying to install your custom .service using a .bbappend | 12:47 |
| fberg | yes, and I need it to be eanbled | 12:47 |
| zero_note | can you paste somewhere both bbappend and .service? | 12:47 |
| fberg | ok. I think I have correctly sent you a p, | 12:51 |
| fberg | pm* | 12:51 |
| zero_note | fberg: k | 12:51 |
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| mckoan | joshuagl: * opkg_prepare_url_for_install: Couldn't find anything to satisfy 'gcc-runtime'. | 12:57 |
| joshuagl | mckoan: you asked which recipe, not which package | 12:57 |
| mckoan | joshuagl: sorry, I would need to have libstdc++ on the target | 12:58 |
| joshuagl | the gcc-runtime recipe generates the libstdc++6 package which gets renamed to libstdc++, so IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " libstdc++" should do | 12:59 |
| mckoan | joshuagl: in fact, it works thx | 12:59 |
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| Elamre | Hello! I'm trying to get the Qt development libs in my sysroot (arm). But it counplains about: no package provides libqt-webkit4-dev. Looking around on the internet there was one person with the same problem as me, although he was using qt5, and able to solve it in a way that i am not possible to do. https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2015-January/023347.html | 13:31 |
| Elamre | Using poky 2.0 | 13:31 |
| Elamre | Downloaded the sysroot sdk from yocto | 13:31 |
| Elamre | I'm trying to use Qt4 | 13:31 |
| Elamre | Anybody got some pointers on where I should look? I've been trying to figure out what needs this webkit exactly, but have not been able to find anything on the recipies that depend on it (Maybe I've been looking at the wrong place?) | 13:32 |
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| fberg | hello guys. I have asked a similar question but this one is a little different. the php recipe provides also the php-fpm package. withe the php-fpm package there is also php-fpm.service. How can I enable php-fpm by th default ? I've tried to add the following lines to my: php_%.bbappend | 14:35 |
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| fberg | inherit systemd SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE_${PN-fpm} = "enable" SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN-fpm} = "php-fpm.service" | 14:35 |
| fberg | by the way i can't bitbake php anymore as it returns with error | 14:36 |
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| bluelightning | fberg: ${PN}-fpm not ${PN-fpm} | 14:36 |
| fberg | yes, sorry. that was a typo bluelightning | 14:38 |
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| fberg | the error is related to: INSTALL_ROOT=/......./tmp/work/x86_64-linux/php-native/7.1.0-r0/image DESTDIR=/home/fberg/yocto-logic/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/php-native/7.1.0-r0/image install | 14:38 |
| fberg | | make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop | 14:38 |
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| fberg | Seems that adding the previous line to the .bbappend causes the fail of the do_install task | 14:39 |
| fberg | whiping out the bbappend solves obviously the problem | 14:40 |
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| bluelightning | fberg: that is bizarre, I don't see how that would be breaking make install | 14:41 |
| fberg | yep , I can't understand it too | 14:44 |
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| bluelightning | fberg: I guess all you could do would be to compare the run.do_install files between the two runs, maybe that will shed some light | 14:46 |
| fberg | the inherit systemd statement is the main cause as commenting it seems to solve the compilation issue | 14:47 |
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| sjolley1 | YPTM: :) | 15:13 |
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| pohly | rburton: we are seeing "checkstatus() urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor>" in the refkit CI when trying to build in an Ubuntu 16.04 container. What breaks is downloading from the HTTP sstate cache. | 15:24 |
| pohly | It works for other containers. | 15:24 |
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| pohly | The URLs that are checked do exist on the server, and normal wget in the container also works, so it shouldn't be due to network settings. | 15:24 |
| khem | rburton:add -fuse-ld=bfd to cflags | 15:25 |
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| rburton | ah thanks | 15:25 |
| rburton | pohly: weird, no idea | 15:25 |
| pohly | mborzecki mentioned such an error when using SimpleHTTP as server. | 15:25 |
| pohly | So you have never encountered something like that? | 15:25 |
| pohly | There seems to be some connection sharing going on. I wonder how resilient that is against unexpected connection losses. | 15:26 |
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| khem | rburton: although the catch is you will need the gcc patch I sent this morning | 15:28 |
| khem | for these options to work. They have silently failed to work especially after rss changes | 15:29 |
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| rburton | lol | 15:31 |
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| rburton | well at least i can test your patch now | 15:33 |
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| RP | kergoth: around? | 15:45 |
| RP | bluelightning, joshuagl, rburton: you may also have an opinion | 15:45 |
| * joshuagl is on a call | 15:45 | |
| RP | I'm trying to figure out how to setup multiprocessing.Queue but with fds from a socket | 15:45 |
| joshuagl | half here | 15:46 |
| RP | multiprocessing.Queue fundamentally uses os.pipe() so this should be possible | 15:46 |
| RP | My options are: copy multiprocessing.Queue and customise, add a customised wrapper which would have to assume internal knowledge about Queue, or change connection.Pipe from under the module whilst setting up multiprocessing.Queue | 15:47 |
| RP | The latter is probably the least worst but I don't like any of them. Am I missing anything? | 15:47 |
| peacememories | hi everyone. does anybody here use docker to build yocto projects? i'm having a lot of trouble getting that to work. specifically, libtool_native fails on do_populate_sysroot | 15:48 |
| peacememories | with input/output errors | 15:48 |
| RP | peacememories: I know its been done and that sounds familiar for some reason but I can't remember why :/ | 15:49 |
| pohly | rburton: I can reproduce the urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor> error with SimpleHTTP. | 15:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | i'm doing builds in docker all the time, and crops basically does it too | 15:50 |
| pohly | That means I can file a bug and you can investigate it further, right? ;-} | 15:50 |
| peacememories | RP i think the problem is that it tries to create hardlinks. i'll see if running as privileged container helps, but that would obviously not be a great fix | 15:51 |
| peacememories | nope, that definitely didn't help | 15:51 |
| RP | hmm, I wonder if you can swap the fds from under a Queue | 15:51 |
| pohly | BTW, what is the right Bugzilla component for OE-core's "classes" directory? | 15:52 |
| pohly | I'm looking at "Product: OE-core" right now and none of the available Components seems to fit. | 15:52 |
| peacememories | LetoThe2nd any pointers on why this doesn't work or how to do it correctly? :) | 15:53 |
| RP | pohly: its the right product, is there a "core" under there? | 15:53 |
| pohly | Yes, but it says in the Description "Defects within metadata in recipes-core". | 15:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | peacememories: not right now. it rings a bell but i'm not sure which at the moment. care to elaborate a little more on your setup? where is the stuff stored? are you using some kind of volume mounts? | 15:54 |
| peacememories | LetoThe2nd i think i know why it breaks. docker for mac probably uses nfs mounts for volume binding, which yocto doesn't like at all | 15:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | peacememories: gah. docker on mac. | 15:54 |
| peacememories | well that's what my build environment looks like^^ | 15:55 |
| peacememories | using vagrant isn't much better because i need to build everything inside the virtual machine -> giant vm files | 15:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats not real docker, but in fact a small virtual machine running docker, with some gizmos on top | 15:55 |
| peacememories | yeah i know | 15:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | thats also the bell it rang. i gav it a try some time ago too. | 15:56 |
| peacememories | i was hoping since they're using apple's own hypervisor (as far as i can tell) they might have a good solution for bindings | 15:56 |
| peacememories | back to building in a vm i suppose^^' | 15:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | peacememories: nope, especially as apples fs has some .. issues with case sensitivity and stuff | 15:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | peacememories: yeah. use a vm and some scripting to shuffle data back and forth. you could probably use throwaway virtual drives too. or, look at CROPS and what they're doing. they claim to build in docker on mac, but probably use some other storage strategy. | 15:58 |
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| peacememories | thanks, i'll look into that | 15:59 |
| peacememories | yeah, seems crops keeps the storage in the docker vm and shares it with the host via smb | 16:03 |
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| rburton | pohly: what is serving the files? | 16:12 |
| pohly | "python3 -m http.server" - yes, I know, it doesn't support parallel connections well. | 16:12 |
| pohly | But shouldn't the sstate fetch code be able to cope with "poor" servers or connection loss (if that's what I am seeing)? | 16:13 |
| pohly | The "real" problem is with Apache, though. | 16:13 |
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| rburton | pohly: it should fall back to building locally if it can't fetch, yes | 16:14 |
| pohly | It does that, but I don't consider that a suitable fallback. Worse, there's no indication whatsoever that there were network issues. | 16:15 |
| pohly | We spend a day or more debugging why our builds under a Ubuntu container run without sstate. | 16:15 |
| rburton | would you prefer it to abort if the wget returns anything other than 200 or 404? | 16:16 |
| pohly | We are not getting to the point where wget is called. | 16:16 |
| rburton | ah sorry, checkstatus() | 16:17 |
| pohly | The fetcher.checkstatus() fails with the urlopen error, but one only gets to see that when running "bitbake -D -D" - and then one has to filter the output like crazy. Getting a >18GB log file from a remote build server turned out to be not feasible. | 16:18 |
| rburton | file a bug please :) | 16:18 |
| pohly | There's a general "except:" clause, with no attempt to distinguish between an exception that indicates network setup problems and the 404 errors that can be ignored. | 16:19 |
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| rburton | khem: passing -fuse-ld=bfd doesn't appear to work, at least my test case is still failing in a way that suggests gold is used | 16:24 |
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| khem | rburton: which package it this ? | 17:20 |
| khem | is | 17:20 |
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| jstashluk | I've compiled a host tool using a recipe with "inherit native". Where do I install this tool so that a subsequent recipe can find and call this tool via its Makefile? | 17:48 |
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| khem | jstashluk: you can simply assume this tool to be available in PATH provided you add DEPENDS += "yourtool-native" to the package recipes which need this tool during build | 17:52 |
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| khem | and also make sure that it installs into usual standard locations like usr/bin or usr/sbin | 17:52 |
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| jstashluk | khem: I'll try that, thanks. | 17:54 |
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| jstashluk | khem: assuming bitbake doesn't have root privs, and the executable should remain under the build/tmp/work. Is there a stanard way to tell the second recipe to find the executable? Install in the sysroot somehow? | 18:06 |
| khem | OE build system will put it in a staged area usually next to your package in recipe-sysroot-native and add that to default search PATH | 18:07 |
| khem | you dont have to worry aboiut that | 18:07 |
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| jstashluk | khem: Thanks for the help. I just had to pass PREFIX=${base_prefix} to the Makefile in do_install() | 18:15 |
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| khem | usually if the recipe is autotooled then you have very minimal to do | 18:16 |
| Elamre | Does anybody know where the libqtwebkit4-dev requirement comes from? I'm trying to resolve the following error when trying to make the meta-toolchain-qt: no package provides libqtwebkit4-dev | 18:16 |
| khem | in some cases you have to make sure you install stuff into ${D} | 18:16 |
| khem | Elamre: that seems like is using qt4 ? | 18:17 |
| Elamre | Yes, QT4 that is | 18:17 |
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| Elamre | I saw a similar post on the mailinglist, but that person used qt5 and had a qtcore.inf where he could resolve it. I am stuck with Qt4 | 18:18 |
| Elamre | poko 2 | 18:18 |
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| Elamre | Anybody? :) | 18:32 |
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| nas_ | So, I am trying to build LAPACK on a yocto distro. LAPACK is linear algebra library (i.e. .so or .lib) that is written in fortran but can be called from C. It depends on BLAS, another library written in Fortran that can be called from C. As of yet, I have been able to set up a fortran compiler properly despite following various directions found on the interwebz. Is there a guide to setting up a fortran compiler within Yocto, and | 21:13 |
| nas_ | failing that, does anyone know the necessary steps? | 21:13 |
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| gabrbedd | nas_: a college once told me that you can't cross-compile ATLAS. We created a prebuilt binary package that had been compiled on the actual device. | 21:15 |
| nas_ | I am not trying to cross-compile | 21:16 |
| gabrbedd | nas_: Other than that, no -- I haven't run into problems/chatter with the fortran compiler. | 21:16 |
| nas_ | I am trying to get the fortran compiler to work in the first place so I can build BLAS/LAPACK on the system itself (as you say) | 21:16 |
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| gabrbedd | nas_: So you're trying to get the fortran compiler to run on the device? Not cross-compile? | 21:18 |
| nas_ | Correct | 21:18 |
| nas_ | (for what it's worth, BLAS can in theory be cross-compiled, but it's such a pain that I've never bothered) | 21:18 |
| gabrbedd | (BLAS, yes. ATLAS, no... since it is tuning the build to the hardware rather than pre-canned configurations) | 21:19 |
| nas_ | True | 21:20 |
| gabrbedd | nas_: So... where is the fortran compiler failing? No bitbake recipe? Won't build. Builds but doesn't appear in device image? Appears in device image but doesn't execute (for some reason)? | 21:21 |
| nas_ | It is not in the build by default | 21:23 |
| rburton | no, its not. | 21:23 |
| rburton | FORTRAN = ",fortran" is the magic for local.conf iirc | 21:23 |
| rburton | (welcome to a corner of the gcc recipe that hasn't been touched for a decade) | 21:24 |
| rburton | seriously need to rewrite that bit one day | 21:24 |
| nas_ | I tried the directions at this (jumpnowtek.com/yocto/add-fortran-support-to-a-yocto-build.html) website but it failed to build | 21:24 |
| nas_ | Obviously said directions are for an older release of Yocto | 21:24 |
| nas_ | But I was hoping that they would still work, haha | 21:24 |
| nas_ | that link seems to fail. hm | 21:25 |
| nas_ | http://www.jumpnowtek.com/yocto/Add-Fortran-support-to-a-Yocto-build.html | 21:26 |
| nas_ | That one works | 21:26 |
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| nas_ | I need to run, I will try to parse the error messages a bit more and figure it out, though I don't have much hope | 21:36 |
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| tcpdump | Hello everyone. | 22:01 |
| tcpdump | Anyone have any suggestions on what is a good language to write and embedded API over HTTP in? | 22:01 |
| tcpdump | I was kind of thinking python, thoughts? | 22:01 |
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| neverpanic | Not a bad choice. Unless performance is *really* a problem, definitely something with memory safety. | 22:05 |
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| gabrbedd | ALL: At my company I want to make the case "We can deploy families of products faster using Yocto rather than {Android|Debian|Home-grown Linux|*}". Does anyone know of any whitepapers, case studies, papers, conference talks, or Really Good Anecdotes that I could use? | 22:29 |
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| rburton | gabrbedd: android: google changes to suit its own needs and doesn't care less about your needs. desktop linux is a legal and logistical nightmare to productise. | 22:56 |
| gabrbedd | rburton: no, no, no... I *know* the thesis is true, and I've lived in all these environments. I'm just not very good at defending it with facts and whatnot. Looking for some off-the-shelf weapons to help me. | 22:58 |
| rburton | gabrbedd: http://www.embedded.com/electronics-blogs/say-what-/4458600/Why-the-Yocto-Project-for-my-IoT-Project-? | 22:59 |
| gabrbedd | And in Android's defense... if you stay withing the lines (the Android Java and NDK API's)... that does provide an enticing platform. | 22:59 |
| gabrbedd | rburton: thanks | 22:59 |
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| rburton | haven't read that article yet, but drew knows his stuff | 23:00 |
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