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| Guest25170 | Hi, Im looking into ptest and I was wondering how this chart was populated? https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Ptest_6964efddd31c479386d1643c1025bc102710392f | 00:13 |
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| Guest25170 | if there was already framework available? | 00:13 |
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| user83050 | How can one not exclude a recipe from world? | 00:14 |
| user83050 | I'm trying to compile gdb-cross but I see that it is excluded from world | 00:14 |
| user83050 | Not sure if it is related, but I get this in the end: ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'gdb-cross' | 00:18 |
| user83050 | ahh, gdb-cross-aarch64, got it | 00:25 |
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| khem | Guest25170: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Ptest | 00:49 |
| khem | User12345678: look into EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD = "1" | 00:50 |
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| khem | add it to given recipe | 00:50 |
| khem | or EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-<package> = "1" in local.conf | 00:50 |
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| armpit | Guest25170, I think the ptest on the wiki is like a design spec for the framework that was added. its not what is currently implemented | 01:04 |
| armpit | we have more support these days | 01:04 |
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| khem | armpit: is there some place which reflects latest state of ptest | 01:18 |
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| armpit | khem, I don't think so. I can ask what the intent of the ptest wiki is | 01:29 |
| khem | it will be good if it reflected latest | 01:29 |
| armpit | there is ptest support in other layers | 01:30 |
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| khem | it could be a consolidated list | 01:32 |
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| User12345678 | How do I know the kernel name to call when I do "bitbake -c menuconfig kernelname" ? | 03:54 |
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| kergoth | User12345678: you don't need to, just run bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel | 04:15 |
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| gtristan | quick question as all this never sticks into one brain... | 06:01 |
| gtristan | When I want to declare an arch specific variable in a recipe | 06:01 |
| gtristan | like e.g.: PONIES_armv7a = "--enable-flying-ponies" | 06:02 |
| gtristan | Where is this coming from again ? the specific arch names I mean ? | 06:02 |
| gtristan | Specifically I'm curious about aarch64 and i586, I think 'i586' will be correct there | 06:03 |
| gtristan | hmmm, guess it is the "tune" ? | 06:05 |
| gtristan | coming deep from the bowels of conf/machine/include ? | 06:05 |
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| gtristan | scraping through http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/machine/include/x86/arch-x86.inc ... does this make the correct name for 64bit intel 'x86_64' ? | 06:09 |
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| gtristan | So: PONIES_x86_64 = "--64-flying-ponies" | 06:09 |
| gtristan | and then later ./configure ${PONIES} ... , like that ? | 06:10 |
| * gtristan saw x86-64 somewhere else and is head scratching wondering what the correct name is | 06:11 | |
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| gtristan | oh well that's weird | 06:15 |
| gtristan | so line 8 http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/machine/include/x86/arch-x86.inc#n8 calls X86ARCH64 x86_64, and then line 43 says x86-64 http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/machine/include/x86/arch-x86.inc#n43 | 06:16 |
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| Dvorkin | I have sources build by CMAKE. there are kernel module sources installed with the package. how can I build my sources and then build installed kernel module? | 07:00 |
| Dvorkin | I have sources build by CMAKE. there are kernel module sources installed with the package. how can I build my sources and then build kernel module from the installed sources? | 07:01 |
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| boucman_work | somday I'll write a patch to properly handle separate /var and/or /usr... | 08:01 |
| boucman_work | but it's tricky, it interacts with image generation, package installation etc... | 08:01 |
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| nefethael | boucman_work: what is the use case ? | 08:19 |
| boucman_work | nefethael: / is read-only, /var is read-write on a separate partition, packages install stuff in /var so you can't just start from an empty /var | 08:20 |
| boucman_work | I also had customers that wanted a separate /usr, but their justification was more flacky, it was more a case of "do what the customer asks" | 08:20 |
| boucman_work | the /var case can also be generalized depending on the system, I had people that wanted a r/w /config etc... | 08:21 |
| sveinse | We are going there pretty soon with our HW products. We'd like to have RO fs for most parts, and separate RW for the writeable stuff. For the purpose of reliablity. | 08:21 |
| sveinse | And we're not going to use unionfs or aufs or those things. I know of customers who have had tremendous problems with these in the field | 08:22 |
| boucman_work | sveinse: right now I have a dozen purpose-built FSTYPE to do that... it's ugly but it works. | 08:22 |
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| nefethael | boucman_work: one nice solution is overlayfs :) | 08:23 |
| boucman_work | yes, but /var needs to be in a separate partition, so it's not overwritten at upgrade time (we overwrite the whole rootf partition) | 08:26 |
| nefethael | sveinse: strange that layered FS aint work for you, overlayfs is stable for my concern | 08:26 |
| nefethael | boucman_work: with overlayfs, you can put the overwriten files into separate partition, so that you can provide an minimal /var and user can customize it at will | 08:28 |
| nefethael | boucman_work: but /usr /var can always be usefull in some case i admit :) | 08:28 |
| boucman_work | hmm | 08:28 |
| nefethael | +separate | 08:29 |
| boucman_work | that would be a bit klunky with the upgrade use-case, but it could work... | 08:29 |
| nefethael | ;) | 08:29 |
| boucman_work | I should also cleanup and upstream my FSTYPES which creates a single ubi containing multiple volumes (in my case : two volumes with the rootfs and one with /var) | 08:30 |
| nefethael | we use that kind of FS arch, i'll need to port it into yocto sooner or later ... | 08:30 |
| nefethael | did you have a look to swupdate ? | 08:31 |
| sveinse | nefethael: Have you stressed the overlayfs, e.g. by cutting power at random times? Because that is the use case for all this: A system that can survive powerkills reliably | 08:32 |
| nefethael | we have capacitors, so we don't have hard shutdown | 08:33 |
| sveinse | nefethael: right | 08:33 |
| nefethael | never had any issue, plus its mainline in kernel ;) | 08:34 |
| boucman_work | nefethael: yes, but swupdate is another brick in the update problem, it's about downloading and installing. | 08:34 |
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| nefethael | boucman_work: yep, i looked at https://github.com/sbabic/meta-swupdate-boards but there is no example for i.MX6, hard for me to understand what to do regarding SPL/wic/u-boot integration... (even if there is good doc on it) | 08:38 |
| boucman_work | nefethael: there is no good doc on how to do that for i.MX6, afaik | 08:39 |
| boucman_work | and I tend to not use wic, I never managed to get it to work with u-boot... it seems very EFI specific (or it was last time I looked into it) i.MX6 needs its own tool to install a SPL, I'm not sure if you can "just flash" an image to NAND... | 08:40 |
| boucman_work | I should go back to trying wic at some point... | 08:40 |
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| nefethael | i use it to create sdcard image with SPL, u-boot and rootfs, but didn't try for more complex arch for now, wic is quite powerful | 08:42 |
| nefethael | there are great improvements on serial download stuff in u-boot those days | 08:43 |
| boucman_work | sdcards work ok, it's the nand which afaict need the spl to be installed with kobs-ng | 08:43 |
| boucman_work | right now, i'm looking into installing the nand rootfs on the sdcard but it's a bit tricky... | 08:44 |
| boucman_work | the sequence is | 08:44 |
| boucman_work | 1) build the nand image | 08:44 |
| boucman_work | 2) build a package that takes the nand image from DEPLOYDIR and adds it to /boot | 08:44 |
| boucman_work | 3) build the sdcard image | 08:44 |
| boucman_work | without confusing yocto with dependencies :P | 08:45 |
| nefethael | ahah ;) | 08:45 |
| boucman_work | with the nand image having a multi-volume ubi containing the rootfs.ubifs twice :P | 08:45 |
| boucman_work | it all works pretty well, all things considered :) | 08:46 |
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| sveinse | What is the relationship between -native and nativesdk- packages? | 09:07 |
| sveinse | The thing is that I'm lacking protobuf from our sdk, but I see that the sdk already contains nativesdk-protobuf, but no protoc for host. If I build protobuf-native I find the tool | 09:08 |
| sveinse | I'm not quite getting the nomenclature for TOOLCHAIN_*_TASK | 09:10 |
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| stdint | I meet a problem with building weston, I try to use the opengl from the ARM mali https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/SLw9Adw5EheBDPYAY44n-A | 09:15 |
| stdint | I have wrote some pkg-config files for the mali package, why it still can't find the package at QA stage? | 09:16 |
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| User12345678 | what is meta-openembedded ? | 09:27 |
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| sveinse | I have a meta-toolchain-sp which contains inherit populate_sdk, sets TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK+="nativesdk-packagegroup-sp". Then nativesdk-packagegroup-sp.bb inherits nativesdk packagegroup, sets RDEPEDNS_${PN} += "nativesdk-protobuf" | 09:33 |
| sveinse | Are there then any reason why protobuf is missing from the sdk? Am I doing this right? | 09:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: basically, a collection of several openembedded layers grouped roughly by functionality | 09:34 |
| User12345678 | Do I need to download meta-openembedded and use it with poky, or poky already include meta-openembedded? | 09:35 |
| rburton | User12345678: poky is just oe-core | 09:36 |
| rburton | meta-openembedded has several other layers in you can use if you want, such as meta-multimedia or meta-python | 09:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: poky does not include all of it, but the core part. you do not *need* it, but it can provide a lot of packages that you might want to pull in when going further | 09:37 |
| User12345678 | I see | 09:37 |
| sveinse | Does anyone have any good examples on how to make sdks and how to include things into them? | 09:39 |
| User12345678 | I would need to use a cross-compiler, do I need to do anything with poky, or do I just download poky then bitbake my image? | 09:40 |
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| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: by default, poky takes care of all that. | 09:40 |
| rburton | User12345678: the first thing bitbake does is build the cross compiler | 09:41 |
| User12345678 | I see | 09:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: you might want to go through the yocto project quick start document to see what it actually needs and outputs. | 09:41 |
| rburton | sveinse: easy way is to add TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK extensions to the image that you want the sdk to be based on | 09:41 |
| boucman_work | sveinse: what command do you use to build your sdk ? | 09:41 |
| boucman_work | (and i'm not sure how to tell yocto that a -native package should also go in the sdk... there is probably a way to do it) | 09:42 |
| sveinse | rburton: did you see my question above about TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK and that nativesdk-protobuf does not end up in my sdk? | 09:42 |
| rburton | you can't put native in a sdk, that's what nativesdk is for | 09:42 |
| sveinse | From searching the codebase in Pyro, I think that is still the way to do it | 09:43 |
| sveinse | or am I mistaking? | 09:44 |
| User12345678 | LetoThe2nd, I have followed the Quick start guide already and built the image. Now I'm following another guide but it says to clone linaro after cloning poky. Why? | 09:45 |
| rburton | User12345678: because you're following the linaro guide? | 09:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: no idea, as i do not know that specific guide. probably you skipped the introductory paragraph that mention the document being for some specific case. | 09:45 |
| User12345678 | No, it's a yocto built for renesas r-car arm processor | 09:45 |
| rburton | yeah so you need a specific bsp for that, which is probably in meta-linaro | 09:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: read "for some specific soc" as "some specific use case" | 09:46 |
| rburton | sveinse: that should work without seeing actual recipes. are you sure nativesdk-protobuf contains the binaries you're after? i'd be using -e to verify the additions you expect are happening. | 09:47 |
| User12345678 | Can I still not use the linaro and just bitbake poky directly? | 09:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: poky alone certainly does not include board support for your thing | 09:47 |
| rburton | User12345678: if you're targetting a specific machine then you'll need to use the bsp for that machine. poky itself only supports qemu machines, and a few minimal machines for QA purposes. you're *meant* to glue pieces together for your purposes, poky is just an example. | 09:48 |
| User12345678 | So, Poky doesn't have cross compiler for ARM included? | 09:49 |
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| rburton | yes, it does. but it doesn't know the precise details of a renesas r-car arm processor | 09:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | User12345678: it does build a cross compiler if needed. it just does not know about your specific renesas soc | 09:50 |
| rburton | what config flags does the kernel need. what arm tune is it. how does it want a file system laid out. | 09:50 |
| User12345678 | I see. It's clearer now | 09:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: hopefully a heavy metal tune </SCNR> | 09:51 |
| User12345678 | But how would meta-Linaro knows about the details of the r-car arm processor? Unless Linaro is affiliated with Renesas and got the details of the implementation, I would think it should be a layer that renesas provide instead, isn't it? | 09:54 |
| rburton | yes, unless linaro have done it for renesas. you're the one that said you've got linaro for the r-car processor. | 09:55 |
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| rburton | you always need a Board Support Package, oe-core only comes with virtual processors, poky adds some basic real ones for QA. meta-intel has proper x86 ones, meta-ti has some TI boards, meta-freescale has the freescale boards. you'll need one for your target. | 09:56 |
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| User12345678 | I see. Clearer now. Thanks | 09:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: given that description, one would not need a bsp when not targetting a processor. | 09:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | (which i think is a valid usecase too) | 09:59 |
| rburton | how would you build something when not targetting a processor? code has to run on something... | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: i admit i was taking the wording a bit literally - i'm thinking of container creation. where you *basically* just target an arch abi | 10:01 |
| rburton | so yeah they exist - BSPs that target epic xeon processors with all the optimisations and kernel tweaks for super speed | 10:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | i know, i know. just happen to be tinkering with some stuff in that direction, and the bspness i'm currently using is basically just generic x86-64 + linux-dummy | 10:05 |
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| rburton | you really want a custom bsp, you want the virtio drivers and support for the target hardware | 10:09 |
| rburton | genericx86 has quite a low CPU bar | 10:09 |
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| fberg | hello guys ! I have a problem with an aoutotoll recipe. I have created a recipe that fetch the source code from a git repo, and use the "inherit autotools" directive to configure/compile/install the code. BY the way, running "bitbake -c configure thisprogram" ends up with the following error: we can access libc without dlopen .. no, we can access libc with libc.so....no, we can access libc with /usr/lib/libc.so*... no, error: cannot figure | 10:25 |
| fberg | out how to access libc | 10:25 |
| fberg | i'm amused | 10:25 |
| fberg | sysroot=/home/.../build/tmp/sysroot/raspberrypi0 | 10:26 |
| fberg | and if "$ find /home/.-../raspberrypi0 -name libc.so" returns "/home/.../build/tmp/sysroot/raspberrypi0/usr/lib/lib.so" | 10:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: sounds like something in the configure.ac is hardcoded. | 10:27 |
| fberg | from the log file I can see that the prefix variable is set to: prefix=/usr | 10:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: OE does that, and imho it is unrelated. | 10:29 |
| fberg | exec_prefix bindir sbindir etc etc are all set as standard | 10:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: i'd look into the configure.ac and check if there is something hardcoded there. | 10:30 |
| fberg | I'm sorry, I can understand what you mean but can you give me an example ? | 10:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: open the file and see if you can find a written out path :) | 10:31 |
| fberg | i have a configure.in file only and I think it's the same | 10:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: nope, configure.in gets automagically created in the process, usually. | 10:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: is this some publicly visible source? | 10:33 |
| fberg | yes: https://github.com/mariusae/trickle | 10:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: https://github.com/mariusae/trickle/blob/master/configure.in#L182 | 10:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: there is some non-sysroot aware hackery | 10:37 |
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| fberg | mmmm | 10:38 |
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| fberg | f*** | 10:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: you basically have to path configure.in | 10:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | s/path/patch/ | 10:38 |
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| fberg | still don't know what to patch :-) | 10:39 |
| fberg | i'm pretty new to the world.. power to the noob | 10:39 |
| rburton | LetoThe2nd: no configure.in is the source, old name for configure.ac | 10:40 |
| rburton | oh god that configure is horrible | 10:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | fberg: i personally would try to find out why it contains this manual testing anyways | 10:40 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: to 1) ah thanks 2) exactly | 10:41 |
| fberg | 3) I agree on both | 10:41 |
| rburton | *at least* wrap AC_TRY_RUN in a cache check so you can trivially seed the right value | 10:41 |
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| Costin1 | hi all | 11:44 |
| Costin1 | i have an issue | 11:44 |
| Costin1 | i ran bitbake u-boot | 11:44 |
| Costin1 | and after that i can't find anything in the git dir under tmp/work ... | 11:45 |
| fberg | mmmm | 11:46 |
| fberg | during the test I see that there is the AC_TRY_RUN directive, so I suppose it wiil try to run on my host the compiled code for the target and hence the error | 11:46 |
| rburton | Costin1: what are you looking for? | 11:46 |
| fberg | Is it correct ? | 11:47 |
| rburton | fberg: AC_TRY_RUN will fail if it knows its cross-compiling, the test should cater for that | 11:47 |
| rburton | fberg: (which is why i said its horrible and autoconf says don't do this) | 11:47 |
| fberg | lol | 11:47 |
| Costin1 | i look to build u-boot and get the source code for it | 11:47 |
| Costin1 | i need it for debugging purpose of U-boiot | 11:48 |
| rburton | Costin1: and you've looked in tmp/work/[machine arch]/u-boot/[version]? | 11:48 |
| Costin1 | yes | 11:48 |
| rburton | Costin1: do you have rm_work enabled? | 11:48 |
| Costin1 | i am not sure | 11:49 |
| Costin1 | how do i enable/disable it? | 11:49 |
| rburton | if you inherit rm_work in local.conf you are | 11:49 |
| Costin1 | let me check | 11:49 |
| rburton | the other possibiltiy is that it just pulled the uboot packages from sstate so didn't need to build anything | 11:49 |
| rburton | so 'bitbake u-boot -c patch -f' will force it to unpack and patch u-boot | 11:50 |
| Costin1 | i don't have rm_work | 11:50 |
| Costin1 | i also get this warning | 11:51 |
| Costin1 | WARNING: /home/testfarm/QorIQ-SDK-V2.0-20160527-yocto/sources/meta-nxp-npi-1703/recipes-bsp/u-boot/u-boot-qoriq_2016.09.bb.do_patch is tainted from a forced run | 11:51 |
| rburton | thats because you passed -f, ignore it | 11:51 |
| Costin1 | ok | 11:51 |
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| Costin1 | i got it now | 11:52 |
| Costin1 | i mean sources are in git dir | 11:52 |
| Costin1 | one more things | 11:52 |
| Costin1 | when doing a build i should also get the elf file | 11:52 |
| Costin1 | is this in git dir too? | 11:52 |
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| rburton | build results are probably in a build/ directory alongside, but if it did pull from sstate then they won't exist as it didn't build anything | 11:53 |
| rburton | so they'll be in tmp/deploy | 11:54 |
| Costin1 | i have the .bin indeed | 11:55 |
| Costin1 | but i should have had an elf file or something to import in eclipse and do debug on it | 11:56 |
| Costin1 | e.g for kernel i have in linux-qoriq/4.1-r0/build the vmlinux file | 11:58 |
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| JaMa | do we really need rpcgen in HOSTTOOLS? it was added in original RP's commit fa764a403da34bb0ca9fa3767a9e9dba8d685965 but I haven't found any explanation why we need it | 12:15 |
| JaMa | some distributions seem to disable building /usr/bin/rpcgen with glibc-2.26 | 12:16 |
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| RP | JaMa: I'm pretty sure something depended upon it or I'd not have added it. I would be happy to remove it if we can | 12:42 |
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| pagios | hi guys, i fired a script in /etc/rc.local and now my system does not show the console login anymore, i cant login to it from the network too, i can go into the boot prompt is there a way to recover from that instead of formattin? | 12:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: pass the kernel init=/bin/sh or something alike | 12:50 |
| pagios | LetoThe2nd, how can i do that ? i am at boot:> | 12:50 |
| pagios | i have ubifsload- command etc | 12:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: i have no idea where your propt and what your bootloader is ;-) | 12:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | in uboot, the arguments that are passed to the kernel are in bootargs | 12:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | but often the scripts generating it are a bit convoluted | 12:52 |
| pagios | boot bootargs=init=/bin/sh? | 12:52 |
| pagios | if i type boot it boots normally but hangs | 12:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | more like setenv bootargs init=/bin/sh, then boot. | 12:53 |
| pagios | setenv bootargs init=/bin/sh | 12:53 |
| pagios | nice | 12:53 |
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| LetoThe2nd | but like i said, the boot command can certainly include magic that overrides it. check the kernel log, it tells you the given arguments right at the beginning | 12:53 |
| pagios | yea it doesnt owrk | 12:54 |
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| JaMa | RP: ok, will try to build world without it | 12:58 |
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| RP | JaMa: the creation of the original list was really about documenting what we needed 'today'. I do want to try and reduce the list where it makes sense | 13:00 |
| RP | JaMa: sadly I haven't had the time to actually do that... | 13:00 |
| RP | (yet) | 13:00 |
| pagios | LetoThe2nd, no good :/ | 13:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: boot from an sd card and mount the filesystem, that would be another way | 13:02 |
| pagios | no sd card :/ | 13:03 |
| pagios | only the built in flash | 13:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: its basically things that can happen to you when you develop stuff in-target, instead of an outomated build, or at least boot from nfs ;-) | 13:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: boot from nfs then maybe... | 13:04 |
| pagios | no network card | 13:05 |
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| LetoThe2nd | *shrug* | 13:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | then either dig through your u-boot stuff, or do a reflash | 13:06 |
| pagios | LetoThe2nd, seems i have OTG | 13:09 |
| pagios | i flash the ubi file to usb using dd? | 13:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: this is highly board specific, i don't have the slightest clue. | 13:10 |
| pagios | LetoThe2nd, can i install an imx6 imahe on usb and boot from it ? | 13:13 |
| pagios | like something generic | 13:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | pagios: highly board- and bootloader specific. and the bootloader magic is probably more complicated than just changing the bootargs | 13:15 |
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| zarzar | i need help with errors when building with dora 1.5 on ubuntu 16LTS https://pastebin.com/MsCajZkY seems like compiler version issues to me | 13:25 |
| Crofton|work | zarzar, dora is ancient | 13:26 |
| zarzar | i'm building core-image-sato\ | 13:26 |
| Crofton|work | likely going to be a source of ongoing pain | 13:26 |
| Crofton|work | for the reasons you are seeing | 13:26 |
| zarzar | i know but i need to match a system config including yocto and kernel and compiler for FIPS compliance | 13:27 |
| Crofton|work | ouch | 13:27 |
| Crofton|work | zarzar, I have vague understanding of FIPS, but that is insane | 13:27 |
| Crofton|work | do you have anyone actually supporting dora? | 13:27 |
| zarzar | yes very painful but i need to get close as possible, yocto 1.5, kernel 3.10, gcc 4.8.1 | 13:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | FullyInsaneProtocolSpecification? | 13:28 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 13:28 |
| zarzar | haha it is insane yes | 13:28 |
| Crofton|work | zarzar, use an older linux distro to do the build | 13:28 |
| Crofton|work | I use docker in such situations | 13:28 |
| Crofton|work | and warn customer they are risk for CVE's | 13:28 |
| zarzar | yea i could use older ubuntu, but i like my 16LTS VM :( | 13:28 |
| Crofton|work | well | 13:29 |
| Crofton|work | chose your pain | 13:29 |
| Crofton|work | LetoThe2nd, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Information_Processing_Standards | 13:29 |
| zarzar | yea, its a no win situation for me | 13:29 |
| Crofton|work | exactly | 13:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|work: hrhr | 13:29 |
| zarzar | i actually really only need the compiler for application debugging | 13:29 |
| Crofton|work | which FIPS btw | 13:29 |
| zarzar | 140-2 | 13:29 |
| zarzar | i have not been able to find the same version of 4.8.1 armhf cross toolchain anywhere else | 13:30 |
| Crofton|work | well, look slike your choices are clear | 13:32 |
| Crofton|work | charge extra for this | 13:32 |
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| zarzar | does yocto build the compiler from source? hopefully it does not | 13:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | by default, it does. | 13:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | and its openembedded/poky, not yocto ;-) | 13:35 |
| zarzar | bummer | 13:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | there is way to use an external toolchain, though. should be in the docs. | 13:36 |
| zarzar | any idea if the built version is available somewhere? | 13:37 |
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| zarzar | is this the armhf cross toolchain for 1.5? http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/yocto/yocto-1.5/toolchain/x86_64/ | 13:44 |
| Crofton|work | you could try it | 13:45 |
| zarzar | looks like it is not cross toolchain, hard to tell from the write up | 13:46 |
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| mflow | If I get ERROR: Feature 'xcomposite-glx' was enabled, but the pre-condition 'features.wayland-client && features.opengl && !features.opengles2 && libs.xcomposite && libs.glx' failed. while doing: bitbake -k meta-toolchain-qt5 https://pastebin.com/APbQZbjs while trying to a Qt SDK for the Raspberry Pi on an image where I don't want X11 or Wayland, with default DISTRO_FEATURES , does this mean that I either need to exclude X11 and Wayland with | 14:02 |
| mflow | DISTRO_FEATURES_remove = " x11 wayland" and then qtwayland won't be build in the Qt SDK ? | 14:02 |
| zarzar | ubuntu 12 for dora? or ubuntu 10? | 14:04 |
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| SonicPenguin | hi everyone | 14:12 |
| SonicPenguin | i was wondering, how do i select only some recipes from an already publicy-available layer? like, i need to have docker inside my embedded system image, but the meta-virtualization layer that includes it carries also loads of other packages (like python or xen) that i definitely don't need | 14:14 |
| SonicPenguin | shoukd i use bbappend? or just create an empty layer and copy-paste the docker recipe? (i don't like the second option) | 14:15 |
| rburton | SonicPenguin: they won't get built unless you ask them to be built | 14:16 |
| rburton | like adding meta-python with his 100 python modules won't add all of them to your image, just means you *can* build them | 14:17 |
| SonicPenguin | rburton, ok thank you | 14:17 |
| SonicPenguin | rburton, i know i can find the answer in the docs, but i'll ask you: where do i define the recipes in that layer that i want to build? | 14:18 |
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| rburton | edit the image recipe that you're building | 14:19 |
| Crofton|work | SonicPenguin, http://opensdr.com/posts/building-small-gnuradio-images/ | 14:22 |
| Crofton|work | might help | 14:22 |
| Crofton|work | not exact steps for yuo, but should give you ideas | 14:23 |
| SonicPenguin | Crofton|work, thank you, that's what i needed. frankly even if there's a lot of documentation for this project, i still feel lost | 14:24 |
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| Crofton|work | there are a lot of knobs | 14:25 |
| Crofton|work | I guess why should think about some more how to get real work done kind of things | 14:25 |
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| SonicPenguin | exactly, some kind of quick starting guide or cookbooks for the most common cases. the mega manual is great but feels like a university book | 14:27 |
| rburton | SonicPenguin: quickstart? | 14:28 |
| rburton | mega manual is all of the docs together in one epic bundle specifically for searching fulltext | 14:28 |
| rburton | otherwise, drill into the right subsection | 14:28 |
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| SonicPenguin | rburton, yes, it's the same anyway. quick start is pretty useless because just shows the installation and the building of a premade image | 14:35 |
| rburton | development manual has more "next step" sections | 14:35 |
| rburton | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.3.1/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-customimage | 14:36 |
| Crofton|work | What is poky? | 14:36 |
| rburton | Crofton|work: shuttup | 14:36 |
| Crofton|work | lol | 14:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|work: ... and dance! </aerosmith> | 14:37 |
| rburton | Crofton|work: in fairness its only in the anchors, the text doesn't say it | 14:38 |
| Crofton|work | https://twitter.com/evilbmcats/status/910628639523340290 | 14:38 |
| Crofton|work | do any sections do a good job describing how MACHINE, DISTRO and image should be orthogonal | 14:38 |
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| SonicPenguin | rburton, ok this is something. but it should be on top of guide! | 14:41 |
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| rburton | SonicPenguin: patches welcome for the docs, but http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#qs-next-steps links to http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#extendpoky | 14:42 |
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| gunnarx | I am looking at a component that fails when building the nativesdk version. In particular there is a bbappend that performs a do_install_append() and installs files but are not shipped (packaged) in the SDK build, and that then fails on QA. What's a good way to build the native component but NOT apply this append (or the do_install_append) for the SDK build only (still apply for target build)? | 14:59 |
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| rburton | gunnarx: use a class override | 15:07 |
| rburton | eg do_install_append_class-target will only run in target builds | 15:08 |
| gunnarx | ah perfect, makes sense. | 15:08 |
| gunnarx | thanks, I'll try | 15:08 |
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| rburton | there's a similar override for each class, -target -native -nativesdk etc | 15:08 |
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| gunnarx | Yeah, I expected as much. I'm used to MACHINE overrides also. Problem is I do only like 10-20% code development nowadays and can't keep all the features in my head. :) | 15:25 |
| joshuagl | armpit: next time you fire a build on the AB there's a dropdown where you can select a release name and it'll pre-populate all of the branch fields | 15:26 |
| armpit | joshuagl, k, thanks | 15:26 |
| * rburton cheers agai | 15:27 | |
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| joshuagl | rburton: have you tried it yet? | 15:28 |
| rburton | not yet | 15:29 |
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| joshuagl | tsk | 15:33 |
| joshuagl | 2.4 M4 M+ my foot | 15:33 |
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| joshuagl | RP: rburton: do you have AB runs planned for this evening? | 15:39 |
| rburton | i'll fire a mut shortly | 15:39 |
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| * joshuagl would like to try and repro the eclipse-poky-neon issue | 15:39 | |
| RP | joshuagl: I've found a bug in those dropdowns | 15:39 |
| joshuagl | RP: good, what is it? | 15:39 |
| RP | joshuagl: trigger that build and kill everything but neon? | 15:40 |
| RP | joshuagl: meta-gplv2 only has pyro and master branches | 15:40 |
| joshuagl | RP: gah! | 15:40 |
| joshuagl | RP: didn't realise, will add some special casing | 15:40 |
| RP | joshuagl: meta-qt3 won't get a rocko branch afaik | 15:41 |
| joshuagl | I can see this is going to be "fun" to maintain :-) | 15:41 |
| RP | joshuagl: thankfully the exceptions get fewer going forwards | 15:41 |
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| armpit | it will only cause issues with morty | 15:46 |
| RP | armpit: quite the collection of pyro patches, thanks. Is there a bitbake branch anywhere with the bitbake patches in? | 15:46 |
| armpit | RP, err nope | 15:47 |
| RP | armpit: ok, np | 15:47 |
| armpit | working on morty kernel updates now | 15:47 |
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| joshuagl | RP: thanks for testing, I have a patch. Will test and deploy later/tomorrow | 15:53 |
| RP | joshuagl: thanks! | 15:56 |
| RP | armpit: can you check I've merged everything in pyro please? | 15:56 |
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| zarzar | is the cross toolchain for armhf built into binaries during a yocto bitbake build for an armhf target/ | 15:57 |
| * armpit looks | 15:57 | |
| armpit | RP looks good. thanks | 15:58 |
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| RP | armpit: thanks | 15:59 |
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| RP | armpit: I've missed patches :( | 16:17 |
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| RP | armpit: sorted now I think | 16:20 |
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| Guest23341 | Hi, Im looking into setting up a ptest framework, does anyone know how this chart is populated? https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Ptest_6964efddd31c479386d1643c1025bc102710392f | 16:35 |
| Guest23341 | if there are already scripts available for this? | 16:35 |
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| khem | rburton: I want to have git versions of recipe for gcc and friends, using the new incantation you added is there some quick howto ? | 17:02 |
| khem | is it devupstream.bbclass ? | 17:04 |
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| Guest51513 | hi, is there a mechanism/best practice for initial system preparation on first boot? e.g. setting hostname etc. | 17:51 |
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| aehs29 | Guest51513: I dont think theres a single mechanism for that, you may use a combination of classes to achieve that though, like useradd.bbclass + rootfs_postinstall.bbclass and such | 17:56 |
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| Guest51513 | aehs29: iirc there was a runonce example for sysvinit. sounds like I have to write my own stuff for something I expected that many others have the same issue | 18:01 |
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| sveinse | Is it possible to define or call python functions in local.conf, site.conf or distro.conf? | 18:17 |
| sveinse | The use case is to read and parse a central given VERSION file loading a value into the SP_VERSION | 18:17 |
| sveinse | Can I include a bbclass from these files and use these functions? | 18:18 |
| kergoth | you can call them from inline python in a .conf, but the function definition itself would have to be placed in a bbclass in INHERIT, or in a .inc file required from the .conf | 18:18 |
| sveinse | So the use of "inherit" in e.g. distro.conf is ok? | 18:19 |
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| khem | you need to do use INHERIT | 18:24 |
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| sveinse | I'm attempting to make my very first distro based on poky, and based on the mess of local.conf, I have put this into distro/sp-poky.conf: https://bpaste.net/show/9874aeed86f1 . Anything that stands out NOT being directives for a distro and should remain in local.conf? | 18:42 |
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| Ademan-work | Is it possible to conditionally append to bitbake variables based on an environment variable? | 18:59 |
| Ademan-work | I have an environment variable that changes the flavor of our build. Depending on the flavor I need to append an extra install file. | 18:59 |
| Ademan-work | There's probably a better architecture but I'm not the right person to re-architect it... | 19:00 |
| sveinse | I ended up pre-parsing local.conf prior to running, bitbake, but that is certainly not an ideal way of doing it | 19:00 |
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| Ademan-work | sveinse: thanks, I hope to avoid that ;-) | 19:13 |
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| sveinse | Can a distro definition sit in multiple layers? By that I mean, have a base distro in one layer and amend (bbappend?) to it in another? | 19:16 |
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| sveinse | How can I access a file (a VERSION file which is located in the root of the layer) from a bbclass file? | 19:31 |
| sveinse | Does the bbclass file have a THISFILE path or similar? | 19:31 |
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| rburton | khem: yes, devuptream. doesn't work for native yet though, so doubt its useful for gcc | 19:36 |
| sveinse | Interesting. There seems to be no SRCDIR or similar. I actually have to parse through each entry in BBLAYERS to find the path to my layer :o Curious | 19:45 |
| sveinse | Is there any particular reason for not having a variable reference to the current (bitbake) source file? | 19:47 |
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| Dvorkin | any comments on ADT bug? https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12095 | 20:09 |
| yocti | Bug 12095: normal, Medium, 2.4 M4, brian.avery, NEW , Toolchain.Host.Mismatch problem | 20:09 |
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| khem | rburton: gcc doesnt have native but all other variants are there | 20:10 |
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| sveinse | I got a task here which results in ERROR from sstate_task_postfunc which is a py function. It does not log anything why or when. I expect an exception being raised behind the scenes. How can I enable bitbake to print the exception? | 20:39 |
| sveinse | I've tried -DDDDDDD in vain | 20:39 |
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| khem | yeah python functions are notorious | 20:40 |
| otavio | Hello folks | 20:42 |
| armpit | hello Otavio | 20:45 |
| Guest23341 | Hi, Im looking into setting up a ptest framework, does anyone know how this chart is populated? https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Ptest_6964efddd31c479386d1643c1025bc102710392f if there are already scripts available for this? | 20:46 |
| armpit | Guest23341, maybe a Yocto bug would be in order | 20:47 |
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| kergoth | RP: have you seen https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0538/ ? | 20:59 |
| kergoth | was just reading https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.7.html | 20:59 |
| kergoth | oh, that's interesting. new argparse feature "The parse_intermixed_args() supports letting the user intermix options and positional arguments on the command line, as is possible in many unix commands." | 21:00 |
| kergoth | khem: nice, just saw the lwn article about 4.4 and 4.9 kernels having patches to build with clang. good stuff | 21:06 |
| behanw | kergoth: The Google Android guys have been busy upstreaming LLVMLinux patches. | 21:07 |
| kergoth | very cool | 21:07 |
| behanw | And fixing new issues. | 21:07 |
| behanw | kergoth: Both google and Linaro are finally kicking butt. | 21:07 |
| behanw | Which is nice. Though I wish they had listened to me 5 years ago. | 21:08 |
| behanw | Both camps have apologized to me that they didn't help LLVMLinux project back when we started... They get it now. | 21:09 |
| behanw | I'm just glad that value is finally understood. | 21:09 |
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| RP | kergoth: interesting, I had not | 21:14 |
| behanw | Android and ChromeOS are both pretty close to being clang-only these days. | 21:16 |
| behanw | Along with FreeBSD, Mandriva, and of course iOS and MacOS... | 21:17 |
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| Guest23341 | n | 21:47 |
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| rburton | khem: well actually, if it doesn't use bbclassextend you'll be okay (it can't extend an extended recipe yet) | 22:23 |
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| khem | rburton: ok | 22:26 |
| khem | then i am out of luck | 22:26 |
| khem | rburton: btw. I am sending a llvm ver bump to final 5.0 release | 22:26 |
| khem | kergoth: yes clang community is very easy going.. no snotty people, and very responsive | 22:28 |
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