Tuesday, 2017-11-14

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tront_RP, about the gcc ssp backporting to pyro; is this any good? http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-November/144283.html02:26
tront_I mixed the 2 commits into 1 and submitted the final patch; there was no point to send both as the second one contained fixes to the first one02:29
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TamisHello. For building a java project using ant I show that ant-native recipe exists.10:36
TamisIs there anything similar for maven?10:36
TamisOr I can also invoke maven from host machine?10:36
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xtronhi everyone, I'm making a test-layer with example recipe in it, I added the layer to bblayers.conf file, now when I bitbake the example recipe it gives me error <function fail: do_package_qa error>.. how to solve this?10:53
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xtronpreviously I fixed this with do_package_qa [noexec] = "1", but that is a work around... what it really means and it's fix?10:54
ranranafter kernel build as part of image build, I go to ../work/../linux/git but I don't see .config ....10:55
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Tamisranran: you should do to the build dir10:57
Tamisranran: .../linux/.../build10:57
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LetoThe2ndxtron: find out which QA fails. usually the message is considerably more verbose than what you gave us.11:03
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xtronLetoThe2nd: maybe because the default recipe don't have do_package_qa,11:08
LetoThe2ndxtron: i've never had to add that explicitly.11:09
Tamisxtron: I think all recipes have this task by default11:09
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Tamisor the majority of them.11:10
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xtronLetoThe2nd: https://pastebin.com/DhhW9SRz here is the error message if you can take a look11:11
xtronI don't know, I'm using <yocto-layer create> script11:11
xtronTamis: this can be related to yocto version, I'm using version 2.2 Morty11:13
xtronTamis: as newer version has additional scripts11:14
Tamisxtron: I am using the same branch as you.11:15
rburtonall recipes have do_package_qa unless they delete it11:16
Tamisxtron: From the error I guess you forgot the enviroments LDFLAGS to your linking11:16
LetoThe2ndxtron: the real failure is: QA Issue: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary:11:17
xtronTamis: so if you execute <yocto-layers create meta-test> it has do_package_qa, what is weird ...11:18
LetoThe2ndxtron: the QA check is perfectly fine, it just triggers because something in your recipe is broken11:19
xtronLetoThe2nd: I assume the example reicpe "example_0.1.bb should work out of the box11:19
LetoThe2ndxtron: thats correct. but i've already had my share of assumptions from your side, to be honest11:20
Tamisxtron: let me test that11:20
LetoThe2ndxtron: so if you don't mind, i'll give the example recipe my own test and then report back, ok?11:20
xtronLetoThe2nd: ok11:20
LetoThe2ndxtron: your release is what?11:20
rburtonthat warning normally happens if you didn't pass LDFLAGS to the linker11:21
rburtonah the example was broken back then11:21
xtronLetoThe2nd: Yocto Morty 2.211:21
xtronrburton: how to pass LDFLAGS and where?11:22
rburtonxtron: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/scripts/lib/bsp/substrate/target/arch/layer/recipes-example/example/example-recipe-0.1.bb?h=rocko&id=9d4a69fd0de8fc52fa80ea14a437ad5d0e368d8411:23
rburtonits only a thing for hand-crafted recipes, and nobody was ever using the tool, so nobody noticed11:24
Tamisyeah its broken11:25
TamisIt is still broken. I just tested on morty11:25
Tamiswas not back ported11:25
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xtronrburton: I modified the recipe and it working. thanks11:27
rburtonits a very dumb example recipe, i recommend deleting it11:28
LetoThe2ndrburton: yeah, it leads to headaches like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47204368/yocto-multifile-compilation11:28
LetoThe2ndmaybe we should add gnu hello to meta-yocto or such11:29
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: actually look at gnu hello11:30
rburtonits part of the docs for devtool and causes pain as it won't build out of the box11:31
rburtonbut mainly because its everything wrong with GNU11:31
rburton$ du -s hello/11:33
rburtonthat's a configured but not built checkout of gnu hello :)11:33
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xtronLetoThe2nd: rburton if possible it should be updated at least, annoying for new guys11:34
LetoThe2ndxtron: ok, mea culpa11:35
LetoThe2ndah dang, rburton ^^^11:35
rburtonLetoThe2nd: its also got a build race so won't always build11:35
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LetoThe2ndrburton: i see. but i think it would be worthwhile to have a simplish autotoolized (or cmaked, whatever) helloworld-example11:36
rburtonLetoThe2nd: well, devtool kind of makes that redundant11:36
rburtonpick an upstream, point devtool at it11:36
rburton(thus, gnu hello in the docs)11:37
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LetoThe2ndrburton: as much as i like devtool for some tasks, i don't think that this is a good way for newbies.11:37
rburtonits definitely the way to start for newbies, that's the entire point.  it writes the boring bits.11:38
TamisI never used it. But I think I have to switch to it. I always use devshell11:39
LetoThe2ndrburton: i see the point, but i'm just not convinced that it works for that case.11:39
LetoThe2ndrburton: maybe if the yocto-create layer tool was gone completely.11:40
rburtonyeah its gone :)11:40
rburtonyocto-kernel, yocto-layer, yocto-bsp, all deleted in master11:40
LetoThe2ndis it?11:40
LetoThe2ndok, then i officially contradict all my former statements hereby!11:41
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TamisOk let me repeat me previous question. For ant I show at meta-java that ant-native exists11:44
Tamisdo you know if yocto has something also for maven?11:44
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rburtonTamis: http://layers.openembedded.org/ says that there's a recipe in meta-iot-cloud11:46
rburtonno doubt it should be reviewed and moved to meta-java11:46
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Tamisthanks a lot. I was using wrong google terms11:48
Tamisto search for it. Now I found it11:48
rburtonalways use layers.openembedded.org to find recipes11:49
ranranafter kernel build as part of image build, I go to ../work/../linux/git but I don't see .config . Anyone knows why ?11:49
Tamisrburton: yeah. I know that. ty again11:50
rburtonranran: probably because you're not looking in the build directory but the source directory11:50
Tamisranran: did you check the build folder also?11:50
open-nandrahi, I bumped our project to use poky rocko but I started seeing issues with metadata hash for some task11:53
open-nandrais there some option how to debug that?11:53
ranranThis is the build folder, Right ? /fsl-release-bsp/build-x11/tmp/work/imx6qsabresd-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-imx/4.9.11-r0/git11:53
ranranHow can I verify that this is the build folder ?11:54
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Tamisranran: no. just try one folder back. you should see a build folder also11:56
Smit-TayI'm trying to make sense of where Yocto is placing ipk files.  It looks to me like duplicates of every ipk exist as a result of every build I make11:56
Tamisranran: the git folder is just a symbolic link11:56
Smit-Taytmp/deploy/ipk/corei7-64/libz1_1.2.8-r0_corei7-64.ipk and tmp/work/corei7-64-poky-linux/zlib/1.2.8-r0/deploy-ipks/corei7-64/libz1_1.2.8-r0_corei7-64.ipk11:56
Smit-Tayfor example11:56
Smit-TayThese two files are produces from bitbake even though I only specified a single build target, my release build11:57
Smit-Tay*ALSO*, when I look in the manifest for the build, I notice that zlib is named as a package, but in fact, the package is not named zlib11:58
TamisSmit-Tay: no it does not duplicate anything. Most of them are hard links11:58
Smit-Tayit's named libz111:58
ranranTamis, Thank you. I now see it. by the way, is there a way to find the build folder for each package ? something like bitbake -e <pkg> | grep ^D=11:59
TamisSmit-Tay: the one at the work dir is the first created. The other you see is just a hard link12:00
Tamisranran: I do not know that.12:00
ranranThanks Tamis.12:01
Smit-TayTamis:  Why are the inodes different ?12:01
rburtontmp/deploy is the final resting place for stuff that is built12:02
rburtontmp/work/blaa/blaa/deploy-ipkgs is just a staging area, and if you inherit rm_work, will be deleted for you12:03
rburtonas to the also, my default debian.bbclass is inherited, which renames packages that only contain libraries to match their soname12:03
rburtonso zlib->libz12:03
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Smit-TaySo, how do I make sense of what's in the manifest ?  It shows the name of the "Package" which doesn't match the name of the ipk file12:04
rburtonwhat manifest in particular?12:05
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Smit-Tayfound in /tmp/deploy/licenses12:07
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tront_hi everybody12:18
tront_I have a question about the e2fsprogs package12:19
tront_is there a particular reason why the fsck.extX binaries from this package are standalone binaries rather than having them be symlinks to e2fsck?12:20
RPtront_: they're hardlinked12:22
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tront_right, thanks12:31
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ranranIf we change sdk path (copy the entire sdk to somewhere else), is it sufficient to change the path in the environment setup script ?12:41
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Smit-TayPK, I'm even more confused.  What is package.manifest, and why are its contents so different than license.manifest ?  License.manifest indicates the combination of package and version that *mostly* can be found as ipk files.  Whereas package.manifest contains a bare name (no version) of packages - which, at least has the redeeming feature that renamed packages like zlib->libz1 show up with the right (renamed) package name.  What's the purpose of two13:16
Smit-Tayfiles, and why is the "core" data (i.e. the package name) different ?13:16
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rburtonstill not sure where you're finding license.manifest and package.manifest13:26
rburtonwhen i say the manifest, i mean the <rootfs>.manifest in tmp/deploy/images13:26
rburtonwhich uses real package names, such as libz113:26
rburton(and versions)13:27
rburtoneg libz1 core2_64 1.2.1113:27
rburtonah there they are, generated by the license class13:34
rburtonSmit-Tay: clearly they need to be merged and fixed.  if you just want a manifest, use the one in the images directory13:35
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Smit-TayOK, that appears to solve my problem.  Thanks again rburton14:01
Smit-Tayrbuton, what is the second element in the row communicating ?14:02
Smit-TayI see at least three different values (corei7-64, all, hpad_al_54_uefi)14:04
Smit-Tayin the same file14:04
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xtroncan I use example recipe for both helloworld.c compiling and image creation using <inherit core-image> ?14:24
rburtonpackages != images14:25
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rburtonif you want a custom image, copy/paste one of the existing images  that is close to what you want14:26
xtronrburton: right,14:28
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Adam_Are EGL implementations of video drivers (ie, TI's DDK) agnostic to windowing system (ie X11 or Weston)?14:40
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rburtontheoretically yes14:45
rburtonthere are extensions the drivers need to support for eg wayland to work14:46
Adam_Ok. On a Wayland/Weston system, to bind a legacy X11/EGL application to Xwayland would simply need X11-EGL extension. Correct?14:47
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CTtpollardis there a reason why the recipe for gpgme was removed between morty & pyro, but the rest of the config left?14:49
rburtonwhat configuration specifically?14:49
CTtpollardwait ignore that, just typo'd an ls....14:49
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CTtpollardrburton: I'm trying to move an sdk from morty to pyro, it's complaining that nothing rprovides gpgme-pthread. Trying to see what's changed between recipe versions/configs14:52
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CTtpollardpresumably from this commit http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=6075e4978d344faabede03829ebacd82dcfd392b14:59
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CTtpollardso I need to change the rdpends to handle it..15:03
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CTtpollardrburton: same scenario but this time the removal of sgml-common?15:13
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CTtpollardah..... http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=671780de49f93ec1cc28f5ad2a7eebe211918b8515:16
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kanavinCTtpollard: obviously we don't commit to maintaining stuff for all eternity :)15:18
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diembedHi all15:24
diembedCan someone tell me how to undo the forced flag ?15:25
diembedI ran bitbake -f -c configure systemd. Now each time I run bitbake I have this message "systemd_232.bb.do_configure is tainted from a forced run", please.15:26
LetoThe2nddiembed: -c clean it doesn't do the trick?15:27
CTtpollardkanavin: understandable, git revert is fine for my needs here :)15:29
kanavinCTtpollard: why do you need sgml stuff? has been obsolete for years15:30
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bertonzeddii (IRC): ping15:32
diembedLetoThe2nd: Thank you. I will try it when current build will be finished15:34
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Smit-TayNewbie question.   I see version information that looks like this:  "1:2.44.1-r0"   What's the "1:" part called / indicating ?15:36
kanavinSmit-Tay: package epoch15:37
diembedI also have the flag forced for an image (let's say core-image-minimal), if I run "bitbake -c clean core-image-minimal", does all packages will be recompiled at next execution of "bitbake core-image-minimal" ?15:37
kanavindiembed: no15:37
LetoThe2nddiembed: nope, the command clears only the state for the given recipe15:37
LetoThe2ndso if the caches are hot AND valid, only the image will be recreated15:38
diembedkanavin and LetoThe2nd: Cool, thanks a lot15:38
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kanavinSmit-Tay: it's indicating whether the package previously used one versioning scheme, and then switched to another versioning scheme. to avoid confusing the two, package epoch clearly separates moving from one to another15:39
kanavinSmit-Tay: or if we need to downgrade a package version for whatever reason15:40
kanavinrburton: was the meson patchset ever given to AB?15:42
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kanavin(don't do it if it wasn't; I'm preparing a new version, and want to see any failures that happened)15:42
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diembedI have an other question : I created a systemd_%.bbappend file with these two lines:15:43
diembedPACKAGECONFIG += " networkd resolved timedated timesyncd"15:43
diembedEXTRA_OECONF_append = " --with-ntp-servers=0.pool.ntp.org --with-dns-servers= "15:43
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diembedI tried to move them to my machine configuration file but it does not work. Here the two lines added in file "machine/myboard.conf":15:44
diembed#PACKAGECONFIG_systemd += " networkd resolved timedated timesyncd"15:44
diembedEXTRA_OECONF_systemd_append = " --with-ntp-servers=0.pool.ntp.org --with-dns-servers= "15:44
LetoThe2nddiembed: PACKAGECONFIG_on-systemd += "..."15:44
LetoThe2nddang, typo PACKAGECONFIG_pn-systemd += "..."15:45
diembed(without # for PACKAGECONFIG_systemd, of course)15:45
Smit-TaySO, why is epcoh removed from the actual ipk file name ??  (And included in the manifest ??)15:45
kanavinSmit-Tay: no idea. I'm a rpm specialist :)15:45
diembedAnd Is EXTRA_OECONF OK ?15:45
kanavinSmit-Tay: if you find the place in code where the filename is formed, you might see some clues15:45
LetoThe2nddiembed: no idea if it works for EXTRA_OECONF too, but if, it will need the _pn- syntax too15:46
kanavindiembed: you probably want these in your distro config, not your machine config, if you need to support several boards in the future15:46
diembedLetoThe2nd: Thank you. I appreciate your help very much.15:46
LetoThe2nddiembed: :-)15:47
LetoThe2nddiembed: and what kanavin said15:47
Smit-Taylibglib-2.0-0, is an example.  the manifest says it's version 1:2.44.1-r0, but the ipk file is named "libglib-2.0-0_2.44.1-r0_corei7-64.ipk"  (missing the epoch)15:47
diembedkanavin: I put it in Machine as all futures machines will not necessarily need these options15:47
kanavindiembed: still, it belongs in the distro - machine config should only have stuff related to hardware15:48
kanavindiembed: if you need different settings, define another distro15:49
diembedkanavin: and as you see I am not very familiar with all Yocto stuff. So I will do that later ;)15:49
diembedkanavin: Thank you for advises15:49
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diembedPACKAGECONFIG_pn-systemd += "..." and EXTRA_OECONF_pn-systemd += "..." in machine file work perfectly (with bbappend disabled)15:55
kergoth_pn += will erase any existing value, rather than appending to it15:56
kergothyou want _append_pn- instead15:56
LetoThe2ndkergoth: ah interesting, thx15:56
kergothnote that _append won't add the space separator for you15:57
kergothhttps://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual.html#variable-interaction-worked-examples mentions the _append_foo vs _foo_append / _foo +=, though possibly not as clearly as i'd like given such a common point of confusion16:00
kanavinkergoth: yeah, "try various ways until it works"16:01
kergoththat's not generally a good way to proceed, that's how you end up with files riddled with bad stuff that others then copy and paste into their own files, and wrong stuff gets spread around to new layers16:01
kergoththen it takes ages to fix them all16:01
kanavinkergoth: yes, but that's how people tend to do things16:02
kergothsadly yes16:02
kanavinkergoth: exhibit a: autotools16:02
kergothwhich is why layer quality is as bad as it is16:02
kergoththat too16:02
kergothautotools shows the sad lack of configuration management and build engineering expertise in open source projects16:02
kergothtoo much emphasis on just the code16:02
kergoththe yocto project is thankfully an exception to that, though16:04
* kergoth ponders16:05
kanavinkergoth: no one ever wants to be an expert in configuration management or build engineering. It's boring! :) People want to hack the code, and make it do exciting stuff, so those things are largely seen as necessary evil.16:06
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kergothunfortunate, but true. configuration management is important, but not exciting16:11
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diembedkergoth: Indeed, since my modification xsltproc is no more found while compiling systemd, Thank you16:11
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diembedkergoth: I read a lot of docs for Yocto (including official one, for course) but I worked several years with LITB and I had to "learn" very fast Yocto to start a new project. I am the first to say that documentation must be read and the command "man" is my best friend but sometimes, it is not enough to understand all the underlaying stuff ;)16:14
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kergothyeah, not blaming you there, there's a substantial learning curve, and this is a common area of confusion16:15
ranranWhich of the directory is applied with the patches, the source or the destination ?16:15
kergothranran: what do you mean?16:16
LetoThe2ndranran: what good would it do to path the destination/build directory?16:16
ranranI understand there is source directory ${S} and destination directory ${D}.16:17
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kergothSRC_URI is sources by definition.16:18
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kergoththe whole point of patches in SRCURI is to patch the source tree16:18
ranranIf I understand correctly: fetch is into source, then it is also patched (in source) ?16:18
kergothsources are downloaded from upstream to DL_DIR in do_fetch, then unpacked from DL_DIR into WORKDIR in do_unpack, then patches are applied to S in do_patch16:19
ranrankergoth, thank you very much, that's make sense now. !!16:19
kergothD is only ever written to directly in do_install16:20
kergoththen the contents of D are split up into individual packages in do_package, and then written to binary package files in the do_package_write_* tasks16:21
LetoThe2ndkergoth: hey don't burst my bubble "its all magic!"16:21
kergothiirc the behavior of the main tasks is covered by the yocto project docs as well as the yocto chapter of the architecture of open source systems book16:21
kergothin case you want to read more16:22
kergothof course, if you're really curious, you can just read base.bbclass, patch.bbclass, staging.bbclass, package.bbclass, and read the definitions of the tasks, but most dont' want that deep a dive :)16:23
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ranranThanks, I had to understand the basic , before diving, and I understand now better, with the help of this group. Thanks a lot16:24
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* kergoth nods, no problem16:27
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MWelchUKjoshuagl: o/16:41
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xtronWith fresh copy of poky.morty, bitbake core-image-minimal throwing error of "changing ownership of... operation not permitted"16:42
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MWelchUKAre there any examples of IMAGE_QA_COMMANDS in Yocto, or is this some infrastructure that hasn't got any tests yet?16:45
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: GStreamer understanding (gst-pligins-base,... gst-plugin-vspfilter, element, pipeline) [on hold] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47207193/gstreamer-understanding-gst-pligins-base-gst-plugin-vspfilter-element-pip>16:49
rburtonkanavin: can't recall, please rebase and ping when you have a moment16:50
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diembedIs there any further informations about SRC_URI than this one http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-SRC_URI ? I need to clone a git repository with submodules. I don't known if the recipe does it the right way : https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-tlk/tree/common/recipes-support/sbsigntool/sbsigntool-native_git.bb?id=863590f9bc7104fef698ce6b89ec24dfce542df117:01
diembed(I already create other recipes with git repository and understand all the variable but the is the first I have to write for a project with submodule.17:02
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diembedSo I don't know if git submodule init/update will do done automatically (I doubt it) or if I have to specify all submodules revision17:04
diembed(like in sbsigntoll) or if there is an intermediate declaration of git+submodules repositories17:04
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diembedwithout the need of declaring each submodules' destination directory ?17:06
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diembedI will ask again tomorrow ;) Bye and thanks17:30
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ranranHello, I see 2 source directory for linux, what's the difference between them ?  build/tmp/work-shared/lec-imx6/kernel-source/  & build/tmp/work/lec_imx6-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-imx/4.1.15-r0/git17:36
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: GStreamer understanding (gst-pligins-base,... gst-plugin-vspfilter, element, pipeline) [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47207193/gstreamer-understanding-gst-pligins-base-gst-plugin-vspfilter-element-pip>17:49
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Tamishas anyone built openjdk-8-native in morty branch. It seems to fail at icedtea-native18:06
Tamisplus the build prints a lot of warnings: ....exception IndexError: string index out of range18:08
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uglyoldbobhas devtool been updated since fido to allow it to work with linux-yocto?18:35
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otaviorburton: i sent the u-boot update18:50
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ranranDoes anyone knows why there are 2 source folders for linux: build/tmp/work-shared/lec-imx6/kernel-source/ build/tmp/work/lec_imx6-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-imx/4.1.15-r0/git ?20:05
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fraythe 'work-shared' is the source for the kernel that is shared between all users of that source (as there are multiple users)20:05
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fraythe copy on the w'owkr' directory (assuming it's using STANDARD tooling) is specific instance for that build..20:05
frayoften a BSP vendor will do their own thing, so the work-shared version is never really shared..20:06
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ranranthank fray20:09
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maciejjohi, i've got a question: is it possible to build several image recipes with one bitbake target?20:18
maciejjoI would like to build rootfs and additionally small ramdisk image20:19
kergoththe bitbake command accepts any arbitrary number of targets on the commandline, is that insufficient?20:19
maciejjodidn't thought about it that way, should be ok20:20
diembedHi again :)20:21
kergothdiembed: just use gitsm:// instead of git:// to let the bitbake fetcher handle a remote git repo with submodules20:22
kergothnothing else you need to do20:22
diembedkergoth: Thank you. I found this in a stackoverflow's post (or similar) but I was not sure it was the best way (and tought it was obsolete as it is not in docs)20:24
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diembedA last question: I try to populate a custom license (for vim recipe imported to my layer from official meta-oe layer) but I have this warning "The license listed vim was not in the licenses collected for recipe vim"20:27
diembedI added "LICENSE_PATH += "${LAYERDIR}/files/custom-licenses"" to mylayer/conf/layer.conf20:27
diembed*to meta-mylayer/conf/layer.conf20:28
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diembedI added the vim license file to meta-mylayer/files/custom-licenses20:28
diembedand in meta-mylayer/repices-oe/vim/vim_8.0.0427.bb there is this line : LICENSE = "vim"20:29
diembedDo you any lead for me, please ?20:29
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diembedI used http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/bsp-guide/bsp-guide.html and I don't see what is wrong20:32
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joshuaglMWelchUK: \o I added that so that we could implement things like: http://git.yoctoproject.org/clean/cgit.cgi/meta-swupd/tree/classes/swupd-image.bbclass#n57221:17
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diembedBye and thanks for help21:54
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