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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: RPC package for my Yocto Linux build <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50167783/rpc-package-for-my-yocto-linux-build> | 05:31 |
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| aehs29 | Hello, does anyone happen to know Juro's handle in here? | 06:22 |
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| nayfe | aehs29: Hi, what is "Juro's handle"? | 07:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | nayfe: probably the nickname of some person with a real life first name of "Juro" | 07:18 |
| * LetoThe2nd points at the /who feature of irc | 07:18 | |
| nayfe | LetoThe2nd: oww ok I was far from that | 07:20 |
| nayfe | thx | 07:20 |
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| aehs29 | LetoThe2nd: thanks,haha now I just have to loop through all the names | 08:01 |
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| nayfe | otherwise, ask him by mail? :D | 08:09 |
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| acrap | Hi folks! What *-initial recipes certainly do? For example, we have glibc recipe and glibc-initial. Why? | 08:18 |
| osse | i have set up SSTATE_MIRRORS but no setscene tasks run at all. how can i investigate why? | 08:19 |
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| LetoThe2nd | acrap: AFAICS this is related to the bootstrapping stage, primarily of the toolchain | 08:21 |
| aehs29 | acrap: yes, initial recipes provide basic functionality for the toolchain to be built | 08:23 |
| acrap | aehs29: thanks a lot! | 08:24 |
| acrap | LetoThe2nd: thanks! | 08:24 |
| aehs29 | acrap: you can get more info if you look at the manual, on the cross development toolchain section | 08:25 |
| acrap | aehs29: i can't find it. Could you get me the link, please? | 08:30 |
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| acrap | aehs29: i mean the link to "cross dev toolchain section" | 08:30 |
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| jesand | Hi Just a quick beginner question. I am trying to fix a problem on my build. I need to make a symlink like similar to "ln -s /sys/bus /dev/bus " in a recipe. So I added ln -sf /sys/bus ${D}/dev/bus in my do_install_append section and FILES_${PN}-dev += "/dev/bus". There is no warning when i run bitbake but the symlink is missing in the final image | 09:05 |
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| LetoThe2nd | jesand: you cannot make symlinks there, as /dev, /sys, /proc and /tmp usually are only virtual filesystems | 09:07 |
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| jesand | LetoThe2end: ok. I see.. Do you have any suggestion on how to make the link then since when it is missing libusb will not work? | 09:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | jesand: find the *real* source of the problem. what does libusb expect, why and where? is your image even providing it? if it is something in /dev, maybe it is a missing kernel module or udev rule | 09:10 |
| jesand | LetoThe2nd: I will try do that, Thank you for pointing me in the right direction :-) | 09:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | jesand: good luck | 09:12 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: To build custom BSP layer using Yocto for a bare metal board <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50172362/to-build-custom-bsp-layer-using-yocto-for-a-bare-metal-board> | 10:32 |
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| eduardas_m | hello, has anyone used the meta-qt5 master branch recently? what is the best way to test it? is it compatible with the current poky sumo branch? | 10:59 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can't connect to free wifi network with iwconfig in Linux embedded <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50173011/cant-connect-to-free-wifi-network-with-iwconfig-in-linux-embedded> | 11:02 |
| rburton_ | eduardas_m: right now, sumo and master are identical | 11:07 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton_: btw, out of pure interest - wasn't sumo slated as release like 2 weeks ago? | 11:09 |
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| osse | if the same variable is defined in both local.conf and site.conf, which wins? | 11:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | osse: bitbake -e tells you :) | 11:28 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: bear with us while we sort the fallout from https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto-ab/2018-April/002178.html | 11:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: ah, didn't notice :-( | 11:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: and i'll bear with anything, i was just wondering. | 11:30 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: it gets worse https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto-ab/2018-April/002212.html | 11:31 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: if you can help in any way, do | 11:31 |
| osse | LetoThe2nd: good idea. seems it's local | 11:31 |
| Son_Goku | this is unfortunate | 11:33 |
| Son_Goku | and really messed up | 11:34 |
| Son_Goku | one of the advantages of corporate communities is supposed to be shit like this not happening | 11:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: jsut catched up on the thread... whew | 11:37 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd: there's also the may message https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto-ab/2018-May/002216.html | 11:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: yeah, saw it | 11:39 |
| Son_Goku | with Wind River moved out of the Intel umbrella, maybe they could hire Richard? | 11:40 |
| kanavin | Son_Goku: I think for everyone's benefit it's best that RP operates independently | 11:41 |
| Son_Goku | sure, but it seems LF doesn't care enough | 11:41 |
| rburton_ | Son_Goku: WR is still in flux as the sale hasn't gone through, so nobody really knows exactly what is happening there yet | 11:42 |
| * Son_Goku waves at rburton_ | 11:42 | |
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| Son_Goku | well, there's only one more month left in 2Q 2018 | 11:43 |
| kanavin | Son_Goku: we need to wait and see, I believe there is an important YP advisory board meeting coming up | 11:43 |
| Son_Goku | It's most likely closing in the next few weeks | 11:43 |
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| rburton_ | LetoThe2nd: anyway the main reason for 2.5 being a little late was that m3 was really late (read the status reports to see why). we caught up a bit with the last milestone being short, the first RC is in qa now | 11:48 |
| rburton_ | LetoThe2nd: the RP situation actually has nothing to do with sumo release, but there will be changes during the 2.6 cycle (intel is having a bit of a shuffle, WR sale, etc) | 11:50 |
| T_UNIX | I'm trying to debug (unsing `-e`) why bitbake evaluates a variable (`COMPATIBLE_MACHINE`) in the way it does. However, I cannot do so, because it abborts because the provided `MACHINE` is not part of `COMPATIBLE_MACHINE` -.-' | 11:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton_: i see, thx | 11:51 |
| varjag | anyone here uses mercurial with bitbake | 11:57 |
| varjag | fetcher has problems getting specified revisions | 11:57 |
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| rburton_ | kanavin: anuj's gst upgrade fails in g-i if you fancy having a lot whilst he is asleep | 12:03 |
| kanavin | rburton_: I was *just* about to go ride a bike :) I'll look at it, is there a branch where I can pull from? | 12:04 |
| rburton_ | kanavin: go ride a bike :) | 12:04 |
| kanavin | I mean I will look at it later ;) | 12:04 |
| rburton_ | ross/mut is justed pushed and breaks if you build gstreamer-plugins-base | 12:04 |
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| kanavin | rburton_: at some point someone has to do the heavy lifting of meson switchover :-/ | 12:06 |
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| kanavin | rburton_: it can be done piecemeal though | 12:07 |
| kanavin | rburton_: ERROR: Task (virtual:native:/home/ak/development/poky/meta/recipes-devtools/flex/flex_2.6.4.bb:do_compile) failed with exit code '1' | 12:09 |
| kanavin | rburton_: | Makefile:1687: recipe for target 'stage1scan.c' failed | 12:09 |
| kanavin | | make[2]: *** [stage1scan.c] Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 12:09 |
| rburton_ | nuts | 12:09 |
| kanavin | rburton_: to be exact, | 12:10 |
| kanavin | | ./stage1flex -o stage1scan.c ../../flex-2.6.4/src/scan.l | 12:10 |
| kanavin | | Makefile:1687: recipe for target 'stage1scan.c' failed | 12:10 |
| kanavin | | make[2]: *** [stage1scan.c] Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 12:10 |
| kanavin | reverting for now | 12:10 |
| kanavin | I will stop and go riding when I reach the gst failure ;) | 12:10 |
| kanavin | so it's all nice and ready | 12:10 |
| rburton_ | kanavin: yeah revert the flex upgrade | 12:11 |
| rburton_ | not sure how that worked for me | 12:11 |
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| RP | rburton_: -next merged to master | 12:30 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-gcc cross compile issue <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50174593/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-gcc-cross-compile-issue> | 12:33 |
| rburton_ | RP: \o/ | 12:48 |
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| angelo_ts | hello all | 12:50 |
| angelo_ts | Our company yocto is not happy with my debian unstable distro. And it exit for errors. It requires an ubuntu of a certain version. Is there a way i can install an ubuntu here without going to virtualbox ? | 12:51 |
| varjag | if my package needs autotools to build, i don't have to specify anything in the .bb, am i right? | 12:52 |
| varjag | other than inherit autotools | 12:52 |
| rburton_ | varjag: 'inherit autotools' | 12:52 |
| neverpanic | angelo_ts: the usual way is to use a container. | 12:52 |
| varjag | rburton_: *nod* but the rest should happen automagically? | 12:52 |
| angelo_ts | neverpanic, sounds acceptable | 12:52 |
| angelo_ts | neverpanic, if any guide, welcome | 12:52 |
| rburton_ | angelo_ts: if it requires a specific ubuntu then your company yocto is a bit broken. should work on debian but unstable means new which means you get to discover the bugs in your company yocto first. | 12:53 |
| rburton_ | varjag: right, that does configure/make/make install for you | 12:53 |
| varjag | because bitbaking the project fails, it tries to go with make right away | 12:53 |
| rburton_ | varjag: sounds like you need to read the configure log to see why | 12:53 |
| neverpanic | angelo_ts: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#setting-up-to-use-crops | 12:53 |
| varjag | rburton_: there's no configure log anywhere | 12:53 |
| varjag | "mbdaemon/1.0-r0/build/config.log: No such file or directory" | 12:54 |
| varjag | 12:54 | |
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| varjag | in my log.do_configure | 12:54 |
| varjag | are my paths botched up somehow, or | 12:54 |
| rburton_ | varjag: the log.do_configure in the temp/ directory | 12:55 |
| rburton_ | are you *sure* this is using autoconf? | 12:56 |
| varjag | yep that one, see the quote above from it | 12:56 |
| varjag | rburton_: quite sure, i wrote that package myself | 12:56 |
| rburton_ | sounds like the configure is bust | 12:56 |
| angelo_ts | rburton_, building a recipe i get | 12:56 |
| rburton_ | try using autotools-brokensep and see if that fixes it | 12:56 |
| varjag | i can build it via ./configure and make manually no issues | 12:56 |
| angelo_ts | WARNING: Host distribution "debian" has not been validated with this version of the build system; you may possibly experience unexpected failures. It is recommended that you use a tested distribution. | 12:56 |
| rburton_ | if it does then your configure is broken | 12:56 |
| varjag | hmm | 12:56 |
| angelo_ts | i probably better go with the container ? | 12:57 |
| rburton_ | angelo_ts: sure, you're not using a supported distro, so if it breaks then you get to fix it. its just a warning, i turn that warning off :) | 12:57 |
| angelo_ts | at the end shouldn't lose in performance | 12:57 |
| varjag | no, it makes no difference | 12:58 |
| rburton_ | varjag: well your configure must be doing something odd as it clearly works for the 463 recipes in oe-core that inherit autotools :) | 12:59 |
| varjag | it does not run configure | 12:59 |
| varjag | for whatever reason | 12:59 |
| varjag | so that's not the issue | 12:59 |
| rburton_ | the class will show you where it looks for the configure, if its not available in ${S} | 13:00 |
| rburton_ | i don't have your recipe or sources so your on your own a bit. proper autotools just works with the single inherit, yes. | 13:00 |
| varjag | do i have to specify ${S} manually, or it should work with some default | 13:01 |
| varjag | ../work/<arch-whatever>/projectname | 13:02 |
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| rburton_ | it defaults to WORKDIR/PN-PV, so if your tarball doesn't unpack to PN-PV then yes you need to set it | 13:03 |
| varjag | hmm.. that could be it | 13:05 |
| varjag | thanks | 13:05 |
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| rburton_ | kanavin: anuj found the problem | 13:09 |
| anujm | rburton_: should I re-send this patch? | 13:10 |
| rburton_ | anujm: please do | 13:10 |
| rburton_ | anujm: didn't realise you where here. why are you still here? :) | 13:10 |
| anujm | rburton_: ok, will do in a minute. was watching a movie, sword of the stranger, nice anime :) | 13:13 |
| varjag | rburton_: it *was* the wrong S | 13:20 |
| varjag | it all snowballed from me using hg instead of git like every other damn project on the net | 13:20 |
| varjag | so fetch unpacks it under workdir/projectname | 13:21 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: how to get an older version of gcc in yocto beside the default one <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50175960/how-to-get-an-older-version-of-gcc-in-yocto-beside-the-default-one> | 13:33 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Dockerfile to run a package revision (PR) server <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50176382/dockerfile-to-run-a-package-revision-pr-server> | 14:03 |
| ernstp | if I want to set something like image-prelink permanently, can I just put a USER_CLASSES in my distro.conf or something like that? | 14:05 |
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| mcfrisk | Hi, does yocto master branch now support multiple kernels per machine? Any pointers to documentation? | 14:16 |
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| ernstp | oh, USER_CLASSES is just goes into plain old INHERIT | 14:39 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error for a custom Yocto layer <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50177447/cannot-execute-binary-file-exec-format-error-for-a-custom-yocto-layer> | 15:03 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: i'm sorry to hear you've been disabled | 15:05 |
| tlwoerner | https://yoctoproject.biterg.io | 15:05 |
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| RP | tlwoerner: that data looks wrong :/ I don't get a mention! :) | 16:10 |
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| armpit | halstead, when is the maint window on the .io AB ? | 16:14 |
| halstead | armpit, Usually start around now. | 16:15 |
| halstead | armpit, I'll ping you once it's complete! :) | 16:15 |
| armpit | k. thanks | 16:15 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to set python version to 2.7 for Yocto project work in Ubuntu 18.04? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50179078/how-to-set-python-version-to-2-7-for-yocto-project-work-in-ubuntu-18-04> | 16:34 |
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| halstead | armpit, Build away! | 16:37 |
| armpit | halstead, cool. thanks | 16:37 |
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| otavio[m] | armpit: I got two update branches for stable queue | 17:53 |
| otavio[m] | armpit: https://github.com/OSSystems/oe-core/compare/rocko...rocko-next | 17:53 |
| otavio[m] | armpit: https://github.com/OSSystems/oe-core/compare/sumo...sumo-next | 17:53 |
| armpit | thanks | 18:06 |
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| otavio[m] | armpit: is there I way I can make it easier? or using the branches are good ? | 18:10 |
| armpit | branches are easy for me. thanks | 18:11 |
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| khem | zeddii_home: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=kraj/master&id=22b2280f4978df41d9bd546773dce1b3538a35ca | 18:19 |
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| zeddii_home | khem: I’ll grab it now and integrate it to the tree. | 18:20 |
| khem | zeddii: we need these fixes for ppc to work with gcc8 | 18:20 |
| khem | I think first one is good to sent to lkml too | 18:20 |
| khem | zeddii_home: I need similar fix for mips | 18:21 |
| khem | will let you know once I push it | 18:21 |
| zeddii_home | gotcha. I’ll track the one upstream and reference it in the commit. | 18:21 |
| JaMa | armpit: can you please take https://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/149165/ to rocko as well? it's waiting for couple months | 18:23 |
| armpit | JaMa, thats currently included in the stable/rocko-next bring built. it got caught up in the some the uninative issues | 18:25 |
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| khem | armpit: there are few changes coming for ssp changes that I am getting into oe-core soon | 18:43 |
| khem | meta-openembedded intake is too slow | 18:43 |
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| khem | are you waiting on maintainers too long ? | 18:44 |
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| khem | zeddii_home: http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=kraj/master&id=0e85aea10984c1cefe8712ca5ed643daf854cbef | 18:55 |
| khem | this is mips fix | 18:55 |
| zeddii_home | ack'd | 18:56 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can't connect to free wifi network with iwconfig in Linux embedded [on hold] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50173011/cant-connect-to-free-wifi-network-with-iwconfig-in-linux-embedded> | 19:04 |
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| khem | zeddii_home: pushed another fix for mips64 as well :) | 19:47 |
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| khem | RP: I have 3 major changes 1) ssp 2) gcc8 3)drop nis,nsl (obsoleted glibc features), I ran image tests on core-image-sato all looks good on all arches for both musl/glibc | 21:43 |
| khem | RP: one thing occured to me, that spe backends are on a lifeline in gcc 8 and can only be enabled with --enable-obsolete option to you know where they are headed | 21:44 |
| khem | so I wonder if we should also plan to drop ppc from first class citizen in 2.6 | 21:44 |
| fray | khem is ssp required for PPC support? I thought it was only useful on some of the e500/e5000 lines.. | 22:03 |
| fray | (and yes, I realize that e5000 is probably one of the last available PPC chips...) I'm also not sure if there are ANY PowerPC codes listed for 'new' designs anymore | 22:03 |
| khem | ssp does not work on ppc | 22:04 |
| fray | ok, then I'm confused | 22:04 |
| khem | ssp work I did is common it has nothing to do with ppc | 22:04 |
| khem | we were using gcc provided impls and libc provided impls in a non deterministic way | 22:05 |
| khem | the ssp rework ensures that we use libc provided impls always | 22:05 |
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| khem | except for mingw32 where we need gcc provided libssp | 22:06 |
| khem | powerpcspe as a backend is deprecated and might disappear from gcc in 9.x time frame next year | 22:07 |
| fray | ya, I'm not surprised.. it's probably not getting much love.. | 22:07 |
| khem | so We have to start deprecating as well | 22:07 |
| khem | I am sure we can have year or two but it will be pain to maintain it during this time | 22:08 |
| fray | keeping support, but deprecating and explaining why would be fine with me.. if NXP (or someone else) shows up, we can reverse that | 22:08 |
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| khem | our qemu is not using spe so we can keep usingit | 22:08 |
| * fray goes back to demolishing the central chimney to the house.. :P | 22:08 | |
| khem | its 74xx | 22:09 |
| fray | http://kernel.crashing.org/fray/chimney | 22:09 |
| fray | khem, ya... I would expect NXP to step up if they want further e* support.. | 22:09 |
| fray | (but I think we've moved to a dualopoly of IA and ARM right now... (I'm not seeing any new mips designs either) | 22:09 |
| fray | RISC V -might- be something to promote when it's ready, but it seems to be still in it's infancy... | 22:10 |
| * fray really goes.. abck in a bit | 22:10 | |
| khem | fray: dont forget riscv :) | 22:10 |
| khem | risc-v is coming in big way into non intel markets thats my prediction for next 5 years | 22:10 |
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| RP | khem: I'm aware we have several series outstanding, thanks for the heads up | 22:34 |
| RP | khem: we should perhaps ask about ppc on the arch list, see who if anyone is intersted | 22:34 |
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| Tartarus | Re powerpc keep in mind there's a lot of stuff on long term support wrt hardware | 23:35 |
| Tartarus | Someone stepped up for ppc8xx for uboot | 23:35 |
| Tartarus | And they have to support it until 2020? 2022? I forget off hand | 23:35 |
| Tartarus | And it's also true that old designs need to get supported with newer SW for security reasons | 23:36 |
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| Tartarus | I'm also not saying it needs to be done without finding people to help | 23:36 |
| Tartarus | But I'm thinking it should be possible to find people | 23:37 |
| Tartarus | Maybe poke some ppc lists too | 23:37 |
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