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| armpit | kergoth, do you want me to add that to the 2.7 planning | 00:12 |
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| kergoth | armpit: if appropriate, sure. it's proposed still, haven't discussed it at all yet | 01:05 |
| armpit | done | 01:08 |
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| kergoth | thanks | 01:15 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to re-generate yocto SDK in deploy folder <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53185960/how-to-re-generate-yocto-sdk-in-deploy-folder> | 08:44 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: lib32-ncurses not installing into rootfs <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53186500/lib32-ncurses-not-installing-into-rootfs> | 09:44 |
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| jofr | I can't seem to get rid of the NOTE complaining that there are multiple providers available for my "virtual/appmod" and that I should consider defining a PREFERRED_RPROVIDER for it. I've gone so far as to put the two lines right in my image-recipe, and it still complains: PREFERRED_RPROVIDER_virtual/appmod = "appmod-molly" [\n] RDEPENDS_${PN} = "virtual/appmod" | 09:58 |
| jofr | Am I missing something obvoius? | 09:58 |
| jofr | obvious? | 09:58 |
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| erbo | jofr: It should go into global configuration (like local.conf or distro conf) and not a recipe | 10:07 |
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| erbo | oh wait, I was missing the R as in RPROVIDERS | 10:08 |
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| jofr | I reverted my change back to imageA.bb IMAGE_INSTALLing appmod-A, and imageB.bb IMAGE_INSTALLing appmod-B. | 10:11 |
| jofr | Both images require an image-common.bb and I was trying to IMAGE_INSTALL my "virtual/appmod" in there, and then just defining a different provider for each of the other images that depend on it.. | 10:12 |
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| jofr | Also tried having my image-common.bb RDEPEND on virtual/appmod, but it had the same effect. | 10:13 |
| erbo | jofr: have you tried setting it in global configuration instead of in a recipe scope? | 10:16 |
| erbo | But then I guess it doesn't fit your usecase | 10:16 |
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| zagor | I'm writing a recipe for a cmake-based package, and I'm running into the sysroot /not/exist issue. this feels like it is solved generically somewhere, but I fail to find where/how. | 12:35 |
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| zagor | the specific issue I have is that the cross-compiler does not find libc and libcc header files such as cstdint and assert.h | 12:39 |
| zagor | since its' sysroot is set to /not/exist | 12:40 |
| zagor | this can be configured per-package, but that would be a huge duplication of code and I also don't see packages doing that. so what is it I should do? | 12:40 |
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| OutBackDingo | ok whats a FIT image ? | 12:51 |
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| Crofton | kernel glued to device tree and possibly rootfs | 12:57 |
| Crofton | all the cool kids use them now | 12:58 |
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| jofr | I'm using a custom in-house build-system (.....don't ask...) to build a package. It supports a "threads" argument, similar to make's "-j". Is it considered bad practice to use multiple threads for a recipe like that? | 13:14 |
| jofr | Because bitbake does it's own threading/forking and builds multiple packages simultaneously.. That's why I'm wondering about it.. | 13:15 |
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| neverpanic | jofr: Nope, bitbake parallelizes on multiple levels, by building multiple recipes at the same time and by executing tasks in parallel while building those recipes. | 13:20 |
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| rburton | zagor: the cmake file is overwriting the provided cc/cflags/ldflags | 13:33 |
| rburton | as they have the path to the right sysroot in | 13:33 |
| zagor | rburton: are they set in the environment? | 13:34 |
| zagor | environment variables, I mean | 13:34 |
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| rburton | zagor: a toolchain file is used to set CMAKE_C_COMPILER and CMAKE_C_FLAGS | 13:34 |
| rburton | (see cmake.bbclass | 13:34 |
| zagor | ok. thanks! | 13:35 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: conflicting requests error while building SDK <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52877506/conflicting-requests-error-while-building-sdk> | 13:45 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: NTP daemon on Yocto Krogoth <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53190937/ntp-daemon-on-yocto-krogoth> | 14:15 |
| jofr | neverpanic: Ok, but does that mean that there is a variable I can use to pass the number of threads to the sub-buildsystem? | 14:23 |
| rburton | we pass PARALLEL_MAKE to make calls | 14:31 |
| rburton | PARALLEL_MAKE ?= "-j ${@oe.utils.cpu_count()}" | 14:31 |
| rburton | it's sad that -j is in there, because it means everyone has to replicate the logic to rip out the -j | 14:32 |
| rburton | oh, that's right, someone fixed this already | 14:33 |
| rburton | oe.utils.parallel_make() will give you the number | 14:33 |
| rburton | and a helper function below | 14:33 |
| rburton | e.g. if PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 10", parallel_make_argument(d, "-n %d") will return "-n 10" | 14:33 |
| rburton | can't help think that a proper fix would be to redefine PARALLEL_MAKE as '-j ${BB_NUM_SUBTASKS}' or similar, default that to cpu_count, deprecate PARALLEL_MAKE, then fix everyone else to use BB_NUM_SUBTASKS instead of parsing PARALLEL_MAKE | 14:35 |
| rburton | actually that seems like a totally sensible thing to do. PARALLEL_MAKE will exist but the recommendation will be to set BB_NUM_SUBTASKS or something instead. the default is just 'number of cores' now so fewer people set it than before | 14:44 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to copy content from .repo/manifests during repo sync? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52862542/how-to-copy-content-from-repo-manifests-during-repo-sync> | 14:45 |
| kergoth | rburton: probably a good idea, yes. repeatedly parsing something make-specific is a bit silly | 14:51 |
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| armpit | RP rocko-next clean build last night with 4.4 kernel updated. want me to prep QA build run? | 15:15 |
| armpit | zeddii, the kernel updates passed AB, I sent patches to list on my changes | 15:17 |
| zeddii | cool. | 15:19 |
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| rondo-de | i'm looking for same actuel good tutorials to build em. linux for rpi64 with WIFI support , have somebody an Idea ? | 15:48 |
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| donster | Hi All, having some problems getting openssh sshd running under systemd. I'm including ssh-server-openssh to my image features and sshd is being installed on the target. But when I use systemctrl to get a status, it can't. | 15:54 |
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| stefans__ | Hi. I'm having a build error when doing populate_sdk on the same build dir and re-using sstate when changing machine (same arch though): ERROR: my-image-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk: The recipe my-image is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exist. Those files and their manifest location are: /home/builder/build/tmp/depl | 16:08 |
| stefans__ | oy/sdk/poky-glibc-x86_64-my-image-cortexa7hf-neon-toolchain-1.0.testdata.json | 16:08 |
| stefans__ | Basically I'm doing MACHINE=machine1 bitbake my-image && MACHINE=machine1 bitbake my-image -c populate_sdk && MACHINE=machine2 bitbake my-image && MACHINE=machine2 bitbake my-image -c populate_sdk | 16:09 |
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| RP | armpit: ok, great. I'll do the release bits shortly (ba srcrev bump and check DISTRO_VERSION. Did we set DISTRO_VERSION already?) | 18:00 |
| RP | armpit: I'm just a little worried an autobuilder fix made today may have broken some oe-selftests | 18:00 |
| armpit | RP, we have not set DISTRO_VERSION | 18:01 |
| RP | armpit: right, means I need to find time to concentrate for a few minutes then :) | 18:02 |
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| armpit | RP, just bumped the distro version | 18:06 |
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| armpit | I don't believe I can set the build-appliance-image as the hashes wont match | 18:07 |
| yates | are there any yocto-supported file systems besides aufs and unionfs that supported "merged" filesystems for read-only and read/write access? | 18:08 |
| yates | see https://www.logicsupply.com/explore/io-hub/how-to-build-a-read-only-linux-system/ | 18:08 |
| yates | it looks like unionfs is not supported for 4.1.15 | 18:08 |
| yates | correction: aufs is not supported for 4.1.15 | 18:09 |
| JPEW | yates: overlayfs? | 18:12 |
| kergoth | overlayfs seems to be the most common one for folks that want an overlay filesystem, anyway | 18:13 |
| kergoth | others use bind mounts, symlinks, or both for writable areas | 18:13 |
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| yates | ok, thank you | 18:19 |
| RP | armpit: thanks, I have scripts for the ba rev | 18:30 |
| RP | I wish we could avoid them :/ | 18:30 |
| rondo-de | i'm looking for same actuel good tutorials to build em. linux for rpi64 with WIFI support , have somebody an Idea ? | 18:35 |
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| armpit | rondo-de, have you looked at http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-raspberrypi/tree/README.md | 18:39 |
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| rondo-de | armpit, ok thank you | 18:43 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto - Exporting STAGING_KERNEL_BUILDDIR as part of extensible SDK <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53196165/yocto-exporting-staging-kernel-builddir-as-part-of-extensible-sdk> | 19:16 |
| yates | with the techniques like static wear leveling which are implemented by controllers on flash memories these days, does using a read-only filesystem really help with flash lifetime? | 19:24 |
| yates | or rather, something like an overlay filesystem where there is a writeable area and a read-only area? | 19:25 |
| yates | at the end of the day, the underlying device doesn't care about filesystems, it just manages the blocks, right? | 19:26 |
| yates | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling#Comparison | 19:27 |
| yates | or said another way, overlayfs won't help flash lifetime UNLESS the writeable filesystem is on another device (e.g., tmpfs). correct? | 19:42 |
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| kergoth | yes | 19:52 |
| kergoth | but read-only rootfs buys other functionality as well, particularly for recovery and avoiding filesystem damage, etc | 19:52 |
| kergoth | also extremely useful if you're going to set up a dual-partition swupdate mechanism or similar | 19:53 |
| kergoth | i.e. it downloads an updated image, flashes it to whichever rootfs isn't currently booted, then reboots onto the new one, leaving the old as a fallback in case it fails | 19:53 |
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| yates | i don't see how a read-only fs helps with that, per se | 20:02 |
| yates | but ... | 20:03 |
| yates | i can see where having an extra partition acting as the writable portion of an overlayfs would be most convenient, so that you could upgrade without wiping away your nv data | 20:04 |
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| litb | hello folks | 20:11 |
| litb | i successfully built the poky-linux for my zedboard zynq board and booted from it. | 20:11 |
| litb | now i want to add n FPGA part to the design. I want to use u-boot-SPL (not Xilinx FSBL) | 20:12 |
| bluelightning | any known issues for the 2.6 release notes? | 20:13 |
| litb | what's the recommended way to do this? I am about to create a new layer "meta-myfpga", and put TCL scripts and recipes there which build the HDF file, and specify for the recipes that they provide this file for the meta-xilinx layer (I think it has a u-boot-xlnx recipe that can take this HDF file) | 20:13 |
| bluelightning | ^^ rburton RP | 20:13 |
| litb | is this the recommended approach? or am I doing it all-wrong? | 20:13 |
| bluelightning | litb: that seems reasonable | 20:13 |
| Crofton | litb, so there are ps7_init.c,h fils from vivaado | 20:20 |
| Crofton | I forget exactly how they are added to u-boot at th em moment | 20:20 |
| litb | i think that there is that file, and then there's the bitfile | 20:20 |
| Crofton | which et of layers are ytu using? | 20:20 |
| litb | but then there's also a "hdf" file which somehow contains both | 20:20 |
| Crofton | look at the u-boot recipe and see if that source has ps7 files | 20:21 |
| litb | meta-xilinx, meta and meta-xilinx/meta-xilinx-bsp | 20:21 |
| Crofton | sumo? | 20:22 |
| litb | Crofton, it has none | 20:22 |
| Crofton | what branch? | 20:22 |
| litb | git status says "Your branch is up to date with 'origin/sumo'." | 20:23 |
| Crofton | ok | 20:23 |
| litb | Crofton, i did a find, and there's a ps7_init_gpl.c/h in ./recipes-bsp/platform-init/platform-init/picozed-zynq7/ps7_init_gpl.h | 20:23 |
| Crofton | hmm | 20:24 |
| litb | however I'm using the zedboard. but maybe they just use that init file for all boards. on the other hand, the vanilla core-image-minimal with meta-xilinx doesn't include an fpga bitstream, so maybe they have a prebaked boot.bin file with the FSBL somewhere? | 20:24 |
| Crofton | ps7 files setup mio and ddr ontroller, tends to be baord spcific :) | 20:26 |
| litb | hm i see | 20:29 |
| litb | Crofton, ah i found one in the build directory | 20:30 |
| litb | ./tmp/work/x86_64-linux/u-boot-mkimage-native/1_2018.01-r0/git/board/xilinx/zynq/zynq-zed/ps7_init_gpl.c | 20:30 |
| litb | this seems to indicate that the image it created for me actually already uses u-boot spl. otherwise it would create the image with bootgen instead of mkimage | 20:31 |
| litb | Crofton, my target for this experiment is to have a framebuffer device working in the FPGA that sends encoded output to the HDMI of the zedboard and has KMS drivers for the linux host to communicate to it | 20:34 |
| Crofton | so likely in mainline u-boot | 20:34 |
| litb | hm i see | 20:34 |
| Crofton | did you make any changes to mio (not likely) maybe fpga clocks? | 20:34 |
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| Crofton | the defaulty ps7 files may just work | 20:34 |
| litb | Crofton, ah i think i found it here: build/tmp/work/zedboard_zynq7-poky-linux-gnueabi/u-boot-xlnx/v2018.01-xilinx-v2018.1+gitAUTOINC+949e5cb9a7-r0/git/board/xilinx/zynq/zynq-zed/ps7_init_gpl.c | 20:37 |
| litb | so it's in the GIT repository | 20:38 |
| litb | Crofton, i didn't do any FPGA design works yet | 20:38 |
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| RP | bluelightning: we need to highlight the number of CVEs coming onto the release branch post release | 20:51 |
| bluelightning | RP: ok, I guess I should get Tracy to collect a list? | 20:52 |
| bluelightning | tgraydon: ^ | 20:52 |
| tgraydon | RP, bluelightning, do we just need a count or do we need to capture what they are as well? | 20:53 |
| tgraydon | RP. bluelightning: I am assuming we want to include this info in the release notes in some fashion, yeah? | 20:54 |
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| bluelightning | tgraydon: we should put it in the known issues, and IMHO I think we should list all the ones we at least have patches for (assuming we aren't also aware of others) | 20:55 |
| tgraydon | bluelightning: gotcha. | 20:56 |
| bluelightning | tgraydon: thanks! | 20:57 |
| tgraydon | bluelightning: I've got to run off to an appointment shortly. Be gone for a bit, but will work on this once I get back. Just FYI. | 20:59 |
| bluelightning | ok no worries | 21:00 |
| RP | bluelightning, tgraydon: you can get an idea of the list from master-next | 21:01 |
| tgraydon | RP: should I be using master-next to generate this list or use the thud branch. I would guess I want everything from the RC revision we built to HEAD on thud? | 21:02 |
| tgraydon | RP: or is master-next going to be closer to the truth? | 21:02 |
| bluelightning | tgraydon: I already have the list of CVEs that is fixed, RP means the list of issues not yet fixed in thud | 21:02 |
| bluelightning | s/is/are/ | 21:03 |
| tgraydon | bluelightning: ah, gotcha. These fixes are not on thud yet. Was thinking we were saying they had been pushed to thud at this point. | 21:03 |
| RP | tgraydon: not yet, but master-next CVEs will be going into thud imminently | 21:04 |
| bluelightning | RP: for the next point release though right ? | 21:04 |
| tgraydon | bluelightning, RP: got it. Will work on this this afternoon, based off master-next. | 21:04 |
| RP | bluelightning: yes. THe release notes should say they're being queued on the branch though ready | 21:04 |
| RP | bluelightning, tgraydon: btw, halstead and I discovered our sstate release artefacts have been bust for a number of releases :( | 21:05 |
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| tgraydon | RP: yuck. Have we root caused that yet and fixed it? | 21:06 |
| RP | tgraydon: autobuilder issues and the new autobuilder code will do better | 21:09 |
| tgraydon | RP: cool. | 21:10 |
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| armpit | truth... what is truth | 21:26 |
| RP | bluelightning: any idea why https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/28/builds/189 would happen? | 21:27 |
| RP | bluelightning: $ oe-selftest -r recipetool.RecipetoolAppendsrcTests.test_recipetool_appendsrcfile_basic in the same build directory passed | 21:27 |
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| bluelightning | RP: er... looks like there's a lot going wrong with that build :( | 21:28 |
| armpit | RP so is master-next the thud-next or should it be pruned ? | 21:29 |
| RP | bluelightning: its stable sumo :/ | 21:29 |
| armpit | sumo... /me sighh | 21:29 |
| RP | armpit: the first part of it is | 21:29 |
| RP | armpit: sorting thud-next is next on my list after rocko which is after figuring out whether we broke the autobuilder. I think we didn't and this is some sumo bug :/ | 21:29 |
| * armpit sumo passed for me.. WT heck | 21:30 | |
| RP | armpit: hence my worry we broke something | 21:30 |
| RP | armpit: but I think it is sumo | 21:30 |
| armpit | well, I can pull things in for thud-next in the normal process to filter out other master-next | 21:31 |
| armpit | thud-nmut process | 21:31 |
| RP | armpit: thud-next is up to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=2535ec060d85d76685237e42375d0a1fd34a8bc0 | 21:32 |
| RP | armpit: or was what I was thinking anything | 21:32 |
| RP | er, thinking anyway | 21:32 |
| RP | armpit: some things at the end of -next are untested | 21:32 |
| armpit | k | 21:32 |
| armpit | should I look into sumo ? | 21:33 |
| armpit | while you look into thud? | 21:33 |
| armpit | rocko is the next in for QA | 21:33 |
| RP | armpit: We probably need to rerun that sumo build. I suspect some early test fail took out the others | 21:33 |
| armpit | I will fire off a sumo build and look at that | 21:34 |
| armpit | sumo has some time to settle. thud next ie cve's higher prio | 21:35 |
| * armpit contrib/sumo-next | 21:36 | |
| RP | armpit: can you glance at the rocko branches and see if they look right? | 21:36 |
| RP | armpit: if so, I'll run the build | 21:37 |
| armpit | rocko looks good | 21:38 |
| armpit | even though I had to ++++ firefox to read it ; ) | 21:38 |
| * RP fires | 21:40 | |
| * RP feels he should be firing pyro | 21:40 | |
| armpit | so sanity reasons ? | 21:40 |
| RP | armpit: sanity reasons? | 21:40 |
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| armpit | you said pyro.. its in community supported | 21:41 |
| RP | armpit: just word association, pyro and fire | 21:41 |
| armpit | hehe | 21:41 |
| armpit | I will re-run stable/sumo-next for a base line on the sumo status | 21:42 |
| armpit | later todaey | 21:42 |
| RP | armpit: just fyi michael and I are in the same physical location this week so we've been working on AB stuff for that reason | 21:42 |
| armpit | I have a pyro US TSA story to tell you later | 21:43 |
| * armpit wife was not happy | 21:43 | |
| RP | random facts - sources for OE-Core come in at 3.7GB and sstate for the 2.5.1 release build is 265GB | 21:43 |
| RP | armpit: pyro and TSA likely isn't a good combination and we're both likely on watch lists now ;-) | 21:44 |
| armpit | C4 and TNT | 21:45 |
| armpit | alarms... not a goog thing | 21:45 |
| RP | armpit: I think you're trying not to travel? :) | 21:45 |
| Crofton | RP, undisclosed location? | 21:49 |
| RP | Crofton: I did not disclose it but it isn't exactly a secret | 21:50 |
| Crofton | old joke :) | 21:50 |
| Crofton | Dick Cheney and his undisclosed location | 21:50 |
| RP | Crofton: I clearly missed that one... | 21:51 |
| Crofton | https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/upshot/cheney-reveals-his-undisclosed-location.html | 21:52 |
| armpit | Crofton, I am Dick Cheney | 21:54 |
| armpit | Crofton, you thought the stores at the "Hanging Bat" where crazy.. there are more | 21:55 |
| RP | armpit: at least this rocko build has a nice hot sstate cache :) | 22:01 |
| RP | and it appears to have an sstate release directory which has the right files in it | 22:01 |
| armpit | hot sstate.. I was looking for fiery sstate. the better of the best sstate ; ) | 22:04 |
| armpit | lava sstate??? | 22:05 |
| armpit | I think we can graph that | 22:05 |
| armpit | RP is halstead wear shorts yet? | 22:06 |
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| derek_ | HI, Something went wrong with source extraction - the devtool-source class was not active or did not function correctly, I always got this error, when I use command "devtool modify syslinux-native" | 22:08 |
| derek_ | anyone met this error before? | 22:08 |
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| RP | armpit: he commented it feels much colder than Edi here | 22:25 |
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| armpit | RP, as you have told me.. just wondering if he is growing a thinker skin | 22:29 |
| RP | armpit: he's only been here a few days | 22:29 |
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| RP | armpit: sumo build can go, or -next will be ready shortly | 23:11 |
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| armpit | RP, stable/sumo-next build underway.. | 23:15 |
| * armpit releases.. juggling chainsaws | 23:17 | |
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| RP | armpit: looks like the release artefact collection for rocko is bust :/ | 23:33 |
| RP | (for beaglebone-yocto) | 23:34 |
| * armpit sigh | 23:34 | |
| RP | armpit: we can rerun those I guess | 23:35 |
| * armpit scratches head over reproducibility... should be the same... | 23:36 | |
| * armpit wonders how to make thing better for release time??? | 23:41 | |
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| * armpit pub time | 23:42 | |
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