| ebolton | rburton: lol, they work fine....but the whole point of what I'm working on is trying out ESDK, I guess they first showed up in krogoth so maybe not so much? | 00:00 |
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| halstead | moto-timo, I meant when you open the link and look at the index. Are files there the only ones needed to save for YP in a drop? | 00:00 |
| rburton | ebolton: pretty much. the flexibility is nice but they're a bit more fragile, especially in krogoth | 00:00 |
| ebolton | rburton: will do | 00:01 |
| rburton | RP: fyi, mut was mostly green on the ab | 00:17 |
| * armpit ab's of steel | 00:32 | |
| moto-timo | halstead: oh duh. yes. | 01:02 |
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| CoLa|work | is there a way to deploy the full list of installed packages and their versions into the image (similar to image-buildinfo which seems to only do that for the layers)? | 07:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | CoLa|work: i'm not aware of any readymade solution, but you can always crate a custom class that basically is image-buildinfo and adds the bits and pieces that you want | 07:43 |
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| kroon | JPEW, with the two package.bbclass patches applied that I sent to ml, I can do "bitbake busybox" from scratch with no changes in depsig.* | 09:41 |
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| RP | rburton: when you say mostly green, ok to merge? :) | 10:32 |
| RP | rburton: eclipse glitched | 10:32 |
| rburton | yes, damned eclipse | 10:33 |
| RP | rburton: automate patch needs signoff and description | 10:34 |
| * LetoThe2nd offers some eclipsing for you to cheer up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsgWUq0fdKk | 10:34 | |
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| RP | rburton: merged some of it, have questions on the rest | 10:39 |
| rburton | oh just noticed i left the netbase one in there that i hadn't totally reviewed yet! | 10:40 |
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| rburton | RP: yeah sorry, failed to prune sufficiently | 10:41 |
| rburton | so we have lots of tasks that set +do_patch[umask] = "022" | 10:41 |
| rburton | why not just do that on startup? | 10:41 |
| RP | rburton: we should probably add something which allows that to be configured | 10:43 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: IP Tables for Yocto Krogoth <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54145246/ip-tables-for-yocto-krogoth> | 11:18 |
| Isaac_ | If i wish to bake nodejs lighttpd and lftp into my bild does this all come under EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES? | 11:18 |
| Isaac_ | Or do i use the IMAGE_INSTALL_append? | 11:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | Isaac_: usually one creates a new image recipe and adds it to IMAGE_INSTALL | 11:19 |
| Isaac_ | IMAGE_INSTALL ?= "nodejs lighttpd lftp" | 11:22 |
| Isaac_ | LetoThe2nd: Like so? | 11:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | IMAGES_ISNTALL += "nodejs lighttpd lftp" | 11:22 |
| Isaac_ | LetoThe2nd: | 11:23 |
| Isaac_ | LetoThe2nd: Ok i will try this. | 11:23 |
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| rburton | khem: thanks for the binutils patches | 11:45 |
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| kanavin | rburton: do you know if Martin Jansa is here? | 12:23 |
| rburton | kanavin: he goes by JaMa | 12:26 |
| kanavin | rburton: basically I ran out of ideas about how to make qemu+virgl work | 12:39 |
| kanavin | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12938#c5 | 12:39 |
| yocti | Bug 12938: enhancement, Medium+, 2.7 M2, Martin.Jansa, NEW , virglrenderer+spice support in qemu-native with accelerated GL | 12:39 |
| kanavin | what's especially annoying is that it does work for plenty of people, so it's probably some kind of user error | 12:40 |
| rburton | yeah | 12:40 |
| rburton | wasn't it JPEW who also had it working? | 12:41 |
| kanavin | I don't really remember if it was | 12:41 |
| kanavin | at this point I would just try with a host qemu, but surprise, Ubuntu ships it with virgl disabled | 12:42 |
| rburton | armpit: did you get anywhere with nfs-ganesha? I've a few patches to upstream but their contribution process makes me cry (gerrithub!) if you've got that setup, i'll throw you the patches :) | 12:45 |
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| interruptguy | I'm beginner in python and I would like to know if there is a way to debug step by step the bitbake server | 13:27 |
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| JPEW | rburton, kanavin: Yes, I have qemu+virgl working, but I use host qemu not the one from oe-core | 13:59 |
| kanavin | JPEW: right - I found what was the issue with qemu-gtk (seemingly random lockups) | 14:00 |
| kanavin | we might yet get this into oe-core proper :) | 14:00 |
| kanavin | host qemu is not really an option, as for example Ubuntu does not support virgl in qemu | 14:00 |
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| RP | kanavin: You probably noticed I merged perl. We'll see what that brings! :) | 14:11 |
| kanavin | RP: I sent patches for meta-oe that fix at least some of the damage :) | 14:11 |
| kanavin | but basically yes, I'm (in)famous for such changes ;) | 14:11 |
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| JPEW | RP: Seen any strange bitbake crashes/hangs on the autobuilder? I think I have some proof that we need the fork handlers for persist_data :( | 14:12 |
| RP | kanavin: it brings us up to date which is good in many different ways | 14:12 |
| RP | JPEW: not really, no | 14:12 |
| kanavin | RP: I will also try to work on python, time permitting | 14:13 |
| JPEW | RP: OK | 14:13 |
| kanavin | with that in place, we should be again mostly updated | 14:13 |
| RP | JPEW: I really don't want to go there :( | 14:13 |
| RP | kanavin: yes, that is the next biggest piece, then we're looking pretty good | 14:13 |
| RP | JPEW: too many pieces to go wrong :( | 14:14 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya, I get it. Using sqlite as an IPC mechanism isn't as straight forward as I was hoping | 14:14 |
| JPEW | Probably means that persist_data needs to be compeltely redone to do something else.... what that is I don't know | 14:15 |
| RP | JPEW: agreed | 14:15 |
| RP | JPEW: probably more like PR server with a RPC call? | 14:16 |
| RP | single server started by cooker and connected to by the workers? | 14:16 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to include correct libssl version into yocto-build to run .net-core application? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54147878/how-to-include-correct-libssl-version-into-yocto-build-to-run-net-core-applicat> | 14:19 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya. I'm a little worried about the I/O throughput, but probably best to start with the simplest implementation and run tests to see if it will suffice | 14:24 |
| RP | JPEW: we do occasionally still see PR server timeouts :( | 14:24 |
| JPEW | persist_data is read mostly, so I think some sort of intelligent local caching would work (e.g. the server tracks what keys each client has "checked out" and tells them when they change, otherwise the client keeps using the local cache) | 14:25 |
| RP | JPEW: for the hash equivalence case there can certainly be optimisation as they don't change | 14:26 |
| JPEW | RP: Yet :) | 14:26 |
| RP | JPEW: hmm :) | 14:28 |
| JPEW | I though that was the end use case; trivially change a recipe and none of the downstream tasks have to re-run. AFAIK, doing that in a single invocation of bitbake will almost *have* to change the hash for running tasks. | 14:29 |
| JPEW | Err, change the unihash | 14:29 |
| JPEW | Unless you get lucky and someone made that *exact* same change to the recipe and reported it to the hash server | 14:30 |
| RP | JPEW: once a given worker has requested a hash, its not going to change in the lifetime of that worker's task execution | 14:30 |
| JPEW | Yes, thats correct | 14:30 |
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| JPEW | I suppose if the persist_data server lived in the same process that manages the runqueue (bbserver?) it could access the persist_data directly to get the up-to-date hashes | 14:32 |
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| JPEW | Although, at that point I don't really see a lot of use in continuing to lump it in with persist_data; it should probably be it's own thing? | 14:33 |
| RP | JPEW: it may be worth making it its own thing | 14:33 |
| RP | JPEW: persistdata is horrible | 14:33 |
| JPEW | Agreed.... maybe we can just kill it | 14:34 |
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| JPEW | Might there be an easier alternative to BB_URI_HEADREVS? | 14:34 |
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| RP | JPEW: that code does need some store of data :/ | 14:35 |
| RP | its all fairly simple and could be made PR server like | 14:36 |
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| nxp | Hi! Anybody here having yocto linux on an imx8 board? | 15:18 |
| kergoth | meta-freescape supports imx8, should look at that layer and its maintainers | 15:18 |
| nxp | thanx a lot! | 15:21 |
| nxp | coming back from #meta-freescape. There is no such chat on IRQ here. | 15:22 |
| nxp | I mean IRC | 15:22 |
| zeddii_home | s/scape/scale/ | 15:23 |
| kergoth | meta-freescape is a layer, not an irc channel | 15:23 |
| nxp | uhm I was looking for someone I can ask a fast question about an NXP eval board with an i.MX8 running yocto linux | 15:24 |
| fray | try NXP | 15:24 |
| fray | (I'm not trying to be a troll, but it's hard for most of us to comment about specific eval boards.. the semi vendor is much more suited to answering those types of questions.) | 15:26 |
| nxp | OK, yes. I just had a little hope to find another user of it maybe here in the chats. It's faster than email or forums. | 15:26 |
| nxp | Thanks anyway to all | 15:27 |
| paul_99 | Hi, i'm totally confused what yocto is for | 15:27 |
| paul_99 | its basically a build system for embedded linux right ? | 15:27 |
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| paul_99 | rather then a speific kernel ,its for putting together a choice of kernel root fs drivers etc in an easier way ? | 15:28 |
| fray | Yocto Project is for building an embedded Linux operating system that meets your projects specific needs. It is highly configurable, customizable and extendable. | 15:28 |
| fray | it's not just a kernel, it includes cross compiled toolchain, and user space applications (all compiled from source) meaning it's YOUR configuration that is used.. not some random configuration from someone else | 15:28 |
| fray | if all you want is a kernel, there are other options that are easier to get started. However, if you are trying to build a project (hobby or commercial), the Yocto Project gives you all of the tools you will need | 15:29 |
| paul_99 | yea ok, but in terms of porting linux to a custom board, the configuration of u boot and kernel is abstracted and done through Yocto ? | 15:29 |
| paul_99 | with its build scripts | 15:29 |
| fray | uboot is often considered to be above the operating system. Depending on your configuration, you may need to use the cross compilers and build it separately | 15:30 |
| nxp | paul_99: yes, it compiles everything from the sources the scripts find on internet GIT servers, even the toolchain for development. So you will get a consistent system that you can even reconstruct in 10 years when you may need to rebuild old firmware versions again for e.g. bugfixing support | 15:30 |
| fray | the kernel is usually patches, configured and built as part of the Yocto Project builds. However, this can also be avoided if you really don't want that.. but doing it in a unified method makes it easier to support long term. | 15:30 |
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| kergoth | if all you're doing is bringup of a new board, building u-boot and kernel on their own during the development process is quicker, though I'd still use yocto to build and maintain the images and rootfs for long term maintenance | 15:43 |
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| bernardoaraujo | hey everyone | 15:51 |
| bernardoaraujo | anyone knows how to use FILESYSTEM_PERMS_TABLES without host contamination? I know I can ignore this QA on local.conf but I need a permanent solution for my layer | 15:52 |
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| fray | I'm confused by 'without host contamination?' in that question | 15:55 |
| fray | the permissions tables are a way to globally set what filesystem elements should be.. such as anything that creates '/bin' it should be set 0755 | 15:56 |
| Piraty | where can i find prepared release tarballs for opkg ? if the answer is "nowhere, clone the latestt tag", what do i need to set in ACLOCAL_FLAGS ? | 15:56 |
| Piraty | (since yocto now hosts opkg) | 15:57 |
| rburton | Piraty: SRC_URI = "http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/${BPN}/${BPN}-${PV}.tar.gz" says the recipe | 15:59 |
| rburton | replace BPN with opkg and PV with 0.4.0, and you've got a URL | 15:59 |
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| Piraty | thanks | 16:11 |
| Piraty | i didn't check yocto recipies in specific | 16:12 |
| Piraty | i have an old system where opkg-cl is installed, what is that about ? | 16:13 |
| Piraty | well, checksum for your download mirror was the same as the cgit link | 16:13 |
| Piraty | is still get ./configure: line 13311: syntax error near unexpected token `0.20' | 16:14 |
| rburton | i'd have a look at line 13311 and see what bash is running | 16:14 |
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| Piraty | true | 16:16 |
| Piraty | gimme 1 sec | 16:16 |
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| Piraty | ./configure: line 13311: `PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG(0.20)' | 16:20 |
| rburton | you need pkgconfig installed | 16:20 |
| rburton | (autoconf should have thrown you some warnings) | 16:21 |
| Piraty | i don't have it installed, and no, autogen.sh didn't complain | 16:22 |
| rburton | yay autoconf, its a bit rubbish like that. install pkgconfig. | 16:22 |
| Piraty | that i already assumed, thanks ;) | 16:23 |
| Piraty | autohell being autohell i guess | 16:23 |
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| Piraty | autohell being autohell i guess | 16:25 |
| Piraty | oops | 16:25 |
| Piraty | thanks rburton ;) | 16:25 |
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| rburton | kanavin: did i mention https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/1849 to you before? | 16:31 |
| rburton | with a bit of fixing to the meson class and meson itself, we might be able to drop the qt/pkgconfig patch we carry | 16:32 |
| rburton | armpit: do you test apparmor with ptest? it won't build here | 16:35 |
| rburton | armpit: (tries to run a target binary at build time) | 16:35 |
| armpit | rburton, I have not sure what is current state is | 16:36 |
| armpit | what machine? | 16:36 |
| rburton | x86-64 | 16:36 |
| rburton | | make: Entering directory '/data/poky-tmp/master/work/corei7-64-poky-linux/apparmor/2.12-r0/apparmor-2.12/parser/tst' | 16:36 |
| rburton | | LANG=C ../apparmor_parser -S -I errors >/dev/null errors/okay.sd | 16:36 |
| rburton | | /bin/sh: 1: ../apparmor_parser: not found | 16:36 |
| armpit | k, will take a look | 16:36 |
| rburton | (not found == loader not found, the file exists but its a target binary) | 16:37 |
| rburton | got a slew of little fixes here too | 16:37 |
| armpit | k | 16:37 |
| bernardoaraujo | fray: I was getting warnings with the message "host contamination"... I managed how to solve it though, thanks! | 16:44 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Building Yocto Linux Image with my own program inside of Image <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54150448/building-yocto-linux-image-with-my-own-program-inside-of-image> | 16:49 |
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| Piraty | where can i find more information on the configure flags of okpg ? for example --enable-fast-install | 16:56 |
| rburton | adelcast: ^ | 16:57 |
| Piraty | is there any source of information besides the super-old code.google site? | 16:58 |
| rburton | well, that's a libtool thing | 16:58 |
| rburton | http://tinf2.vub.ac.be/~dvermeir/manual/autobook/autobook-1.2/autobook_86.html | 16:58 |
| rburton | oh wow thats a really old link, sorry | 16:58 |
| Piraty | ah didn't know, thanks rburton | 16:58 |
| adelcast | opkg does have man pages for opkg, opkg.conf and opkg-key | 16:59 |
| adelcast | and yeah, rburton is right, that's not an opkg flag | 16:59 |
| paulbarker | For configure flags you'd just run './configure --help' I think | 16:59 |
| Piraty | that's where i got it from | 17:00 |
| Piraty | libtool specific stuff is not marked ass such | 17:00 |
| Piraty | s/ass/as/ ;) | 17:00 |
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| yates_home | my target gcc package (smart install gcc) did not provide gcc but rather arm-fslc-linux-gnueabi-gcc et al. is there a package which defines the standard (shortened) tool names? | 17:10 |
| yates_home | of course i could just make symlinks, but just curious | 17:11 |
| rburton | gcc-symlinks, iirc | 17:14 |
| yates_home | yes! thanks rburton | 17:17 |
| yates_home | and g++-symlinks for g++ | 17:17 |
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| paulbarker | Is patchwork for oe-core playing up? Seems to be rejecting a lot of patches as not applying to master recently, mine included | 17:18 |
| rburton | is what it thinks master is correct? | 17:20 |
| paulbarker | It thinks master is 65c419b8c4, can't find that commit in oe-core or poky so not sure where it's got that from | 17:21 |
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| rburton | halstead: ^ | 17:24 |
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| yates_home | g++ is complaining: g++: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: No such file or directory | 17:57 |
| yates_home | sounds like the assembler isn't installed (as)? | 17:57 |
| yates_home | do you have to install this separately TOO? | 17:57 |
| rburton | its prefixed too | 17:57 |
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| yates_home | i'm not seeing a prefixed "as" either in either of gcc, g++ | 18:01 |
| RP | kanavin: why do we see this now after the patches merge: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/47/builds/168/steps/7/logs/step1b :/ | 18:02 |
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| RP | kanavin: also https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/62/builds/170/steps/7/logs/step1b | 18:03 |
| yates_home | is there some other package i need besides gcc, gcc-symlink, g++, g++-symlink | 18:03 |
| rburton | RP: i saw that once, disappeared if i cleaned/rebuilt | 18:03 |
| rburton | assumed it was one of those things | 18:03 |
| yates_home | binutils? | 18:04 |
| RP | yates_home: yes, as is from binutils | 18:05 |
| RP | yates_home: maybe binutils-symlinks | 18:05 |
| yates_home | RP: ok. binutils-symlinks was not required to get plain old "as" | 18:06 |
| RP | yates_home: sure but you mentioned the other ones ;-) | 18:07 |
| kanavin | RP: it's a parallel build race :( I had fixed a few of those with upstream, and though that numerous green runs of AB is enough proof | 18:09 |
| kanavin | RP: I will notify them again now, until then we may have to revert to non-parallel make runs | 18:09 |
| RP | kanavin: ok, thanks. At least we know what it is! :) | 18:11 |
| * RP -> in search of pizza | 18:12 | |
| kanavin | RP: https://github.com/arsv/perl-cross/issues/72 let's see if they come up with a patch quickly (historically they did), if not, we can do non-parallel builds | 18:12 |
| kanavin | basically building dynaloader ahead of other items should do the trick I think | 18:12 |
| RP | kanavin: sounds like a plan, thanks | 18:12 |
| kanavin | RP: cheers :) | 18:13 |
| kanavin | rburton: can you take that up (the meson thing)? | 18:13 |
| rburton | kanavin: yeah | 18:14 |
| rburton | kanavin: great to see the perl-cross people being proactive with issues | 18:14 |
| kanavin | yep | 18:15 |
| kanavin | I think perl upstream still doesn't support or test parallel builds, so we're just weeding those issues now | 18:15 |
| rburton | right | 18:16 |
| rburton | when can we ditch perl entirely | 18:16 |
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| kanavin | I think it's worth it, from 4 minutes to 30 seconds | 18:16 |
| rburton | also, popt is now 9 years unmaintained, so people really need to start moving away from that | 18:16 |
| kanavin | rburton, what about python 2? | 18:17 |
| kanavin | we have less than a year to drop it :) | 18:17 |
| rburton | kanavin: so close to getting rid of that! | 18:17 |
| rburton | i think mesa can use py3 in git now | 18:17 |
| rburton | right dinner is done. have a good weekend all. | 18:17 |
| kanavin | good weekend to you too | 18:18 |
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| yates_home | RP: yes, you were perfectly logical! i was just pointing out the inconsistency | 18:30 |
| halstead | paulbarker, Between Dec 19th and the 22nd something happened that caused patchwork's repo to get stuck. Maybe there was a non-FF push to oe-core that it couldn't deal with. It is fixed now. | 18:32 |
| halstead | paulbarker, rburton RP I'm taking a little time to see if there is an easy way to keep patchwork from getting stuck this way again. | 18:33 |
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| kroon | Is there a shortcut for "bitbake -c clean -c cleansstate <pkg> && bitbake <pkg>" ? | 18:41 |
| kergoth | "-c clean -c cleansstate" will do nothing, for one. or ather, it'll only run cleansstate | 18:49 |
| kergoth | -c only accepts a single task, it's not cumulative | 18:49 |
| kergoth | beyond that, no, any clean task really has to be done in a separate bitbake commandr ight now | 18:49 |
| khem | use shell aliases | 18:49 |
| kergoth | we've discussed possibly adding a clean runqueue to get around it, but it's not done yet | 18:49 |
| kergoth | yeah, i use a shell function for that | 18:49 |
| kergoth | and if you use memres it's even faster | 18:50 |
| kroon | ok | 18:54 |
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| kroon | although "-c clean -c cleansstate" does seem to do what I expected here ... | 18:56 |
| kroon | are there some deps between the tasks | 18:56 |
| kroon | aye, so I only needed cleansstate :-) | 18:58 |
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| kergoth | yes, it runs cl eansstate, and cleansstate already encompasses clean | 19:01 |
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| khem | cleanall > cleansstate > clean | 19:03 |
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| kroon | now I just need to find doc on how to use/enable memres | 19:10 |
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| Piraty | wooot checksum for the opkg tarball changes within a few hours, wtf | 22:14 |
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| kergoth | is it a github generated tarball by chance? | 22:25 |
| kergoth | those are known to be regenerated | 22:25 |
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| Piraty | ehm, not that often. also, it is pulled from https://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/opkg/opkg-0.4.0.tar.gz | 22:40 |
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