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| denix | RP: since you are still here, hopefully a quick question - when creating per-image/sdk feeds in oe-rootfs-repo/oe-sdk-repo, what ends up pulling all sub-packages (-dev, -dbg, -locale, etc) for a dependent package? I have some custom sub-package that get left behind and trying to see how to solve it... | 00:05 |
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| bluelightning | denix: you'd have been more than welcome, but it is still a bit out of the way :) | 00:24 |
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| bluelightning | especially travelling with kids, something I now have an appreciation for... | 00:25 |
| denix | bluelightning: thanks, I know you have your hands full these days, so didn't mean to imply. how's your kid? what's new? | 00:33 |
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| bluelightning | denix: pretty good thanks... my son's almost 2, my daughter 3 1/2 | 01:41 |
| Crofton|work | We are getting old | 01:42 |
| bluelightning | coupled with buying a house that does certainly keep us busy :) | 01:42 |
| bluelightning | Crofton|work: I'll be 28 next year... in hex ;) | 01:43 |
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| Crofton|work | llz | 01:46 |
| Crofton|work | as koen once siad, that is old in any base | 01:46 |
| denix | lol | 01:46 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to run yocto developed raspberry pi image in qemu? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54360232/how-to-run-yocto-developed-raspberry-pi-image-in-qemu> | 06:53 |
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| angelo_ts | Hi, if i would have the yocto generated sysroot to be used in separate "make", is there a recipe to generate it ? | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | angelo_ts: can you try to rephrase? i'm not sure i understand the question | 09:07 |
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| angelo_ts | LetoThe2nd, ok. Mainly. how can i export properly the yocto-generated sysroot ? | 09:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | angelo_ts: bitbake $YOURIMAGE -c populate_sdk generates an sdk that brings all the toolchain to run on the host plus a fitting target sysroot | 09:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | so thats the most obivous option | 09:18 |
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| angelo_ts | LetoThe2nd, ok many thanks. I am looking for a confortable way of working in development phase. Imaging this is the proper one. | 09:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | angelo_ts: its an option. | 09:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i personally favor devtool modify, but it depends | 09:25 |
| sagner | We are using read-only /usr. I noticed that Python is rather slow... Using strace shows that it tries to open new bytecode files but can't write them (since /usr is ro). | 09:26 |
| sagner | docker-compose takes 12.5 seconds to print help. If I remount /usr rw, the second time docker-compose takes only 4 seconds... | 09:27 |
| sagner | There are pyc files preinstalled by OE, but it seems that python3 on the target does not like them? Any idea? | 09:28 |
| angelo_ts | LetoThe2nd, many thanks | 09:44 |
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| angelo_ts | there will be anyone of you and openembedded / fosdem ? | 10:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | Crofton|work: ^^^^^^ | 10:32 |
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| mckoan | angelo_ts: you are right, looks like this year we forgot to open a dedicated page http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2018 | 10:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: we never forget anything. we just priotize some things so low that they never happen! | 10:49 |
| mckoan | created just now https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2019 | 10:49 |
| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: LOL | 10:50 |
| angelo_ts | very nice :) thanks. I may bring a m68k/coldfire board with kernel built by Yocto, just need to setup things properly | 10:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | sounds quite necrophile (SCNR) | 10:54 |
| mckoan | angelo_ts: be careful to state that you built the kernel and all artefacts using OE which is part of the Yocto umbrella :-D | 10:54 |
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| LetoThe2nd | -ella, -ella, -ella... | 10:55 |
| mckoan | ROTFL | 10:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | sry, trying to get rid of my office frustration | 10:55 |
| mckoan | jalla jalla | 10:55 |
| angelo_ts | :) | 10:55 |
| mckoan | angelo_ts: BTW here we are a bit OT, the OE chat is #OE | 10:59 |
| angelo_ts | ok good to know there is an #oe channel, thanks | 11:00 |
| RP | mckoan: I'm not sure it matters that much | 11:00 |
| mckoan | RP: yes indeed | 11:01 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: dark matter, maybe | 11:01 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: if its dark, how would we know it exists though? | 11:01 |
| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: good to see you are feeling the TGIF spirit | 11:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | mckoan: totally | 11:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSkGtW-fQ3s | 11:02 |
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| Crofton|work | angelo_ts, yes and there will be a stand | 11:34 |
| Crofton|work | paulbarker, ^^^ | 11:34 |
| angelo_ts | Crofton|work, ok thanks, it seems the very 1st, AW 1 (you you and OE are all together) | 11:35 |
| angelo_ts | well will be certainly be there around | 11:36 |
| kanavin | RP: do you know how sstate cache cleanup on the autobuilder is performed? | 11:43 |
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| interruptguy | Hi. I would like to remove some compile options for ptest package. How can I do that? EXTRA_OECMAKE_remove-ptest doesn't seems to work. Any ideas? | 12:16 |
| RP | kanavin: atime, if its not accessed for a while we remove it | 12:17 |
| kanavin | RP: right, I guess the chance for it being accessed just at the wrong moment is not exactly zero, but very close to it | 12:20 |
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| RP | kanavin: its not perfect, I don't know how to do anything better though | 12:24 |
| RP | kanavin: the main issue is bitbake's delay between checking if these things exist, then fetching them | 12:25 |
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| kanavin | yeah, this came up in the discussion here - I'm pushing for a 'NFS that all builders contribute to' approach, instead of 'weekly generation of cache available via http' they do now | 12:25 |
| kanavin | they are scared of builders all writing and reading to the cache at the same time, I had to reassure that the appropriate locking is in place | 12:26 |
| RP | kanavin: the fallbacks are also safe, if it didn't exist at fetch, it would show a setscene error but then just rebuild the thing | 12:28 |
| RP | whether that should be an error or a warning has been a long debated question | 12:28 |
| kanavin | they were worried about things like several builders writing to the same file or a builder reading from an incomplete file | 12:28 |
| RP | kanavin: the code is carefully written for that | 12:29 |
| RP | (we move the files into position) | 12:29 |
| kanavin | RP: yep, but even then there is file locking in place, right? | 12:30 |
| RP | kanavin: no, why would you need that? | 12:30 |
| RP | kanavin: we write the artefact to a temp file, then rename it into the right place. That means the operation is atomic. You either see it or you don't | 12:31 |
| RP | kanavin: DL_DIR has locking, sstate doesn't need it | 12:31 |
| kanavin | RP: but I see the file lock calls in sstate.bbclass around those operations | 12:32 |
| kanavin | if several builders are writing to the 'same' sstate object at the same time, how is that handled? is tmp file name additionally randomized? | 12:32 |
| RP | kanavin: the tempfile is random | 12:33 |
| RP | kanavin: lockfiles in sstate.bbclass are for something totally different, not SSTATE_DIR | 12:33 |
| RP | kanavin: they're where we have a shared directory like sysroot used to be | 12:34 |
| RP | pkgdata still is shared | 12:34 |
| kanavin | right, thanks :) I'll have to correct myself then | 12:35 |
| RP | kanavin: sstate_create_package() is the key function which could race | 12:35 |
| RP | kanavin: its shell code and uses mktemp to get a unique name and ends with the atomic mv | 12:36 |
| kanavin | RP: I see, thanks again | 12:36 |
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| rburton | kanavin: i've a hunch that changing pkg_postinst_ontarget isn't causing a rebuild | 16:14 |
| kanavin | rburton: could well be | 16:15 |
| kanavin | it should only start from do_package() though | 16:15 |
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| kanavin | rburton: as there seems to be no progress with various attempts to update python3, I have started a python-sanity project :) | 16:19 |
| kanavin | similar to perl, rewrite recipe from scratch, taking in pieces and patches which are proven to be necessary | 16:19 |
| kanavin | also, no separate python3-native | 16:20 |
| RP | rburton: open bug | 16:20 |
| RP | rburton: I have a patch | 16:20 |
| RP | rburton: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=b569103e9217a211a641b52cababfdf3dc9591bf | 16:20 |
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| kroon | does bitbake/oe/yocto require both python 2 and 3 ? if so, is the intent to migrate everything to 3 ? | 18:30 |
| Crofton | everything should move to python3 | 18:32 |
| Crofton | pretty sure bitbkle is already py3 | 18:33 |
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| kroon | ok | 18:37 |
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| kergoth | kroon: only 3 is required on the host. we often have to build python 2 to run tools needed by the buildsystems of the projects we build, of course | 18:41 |
| kroon | kergoth: oh, ok.. iirc the bitbake sanity checker told me to install python2 | 18:42 |
| kroon | bitbake/oe sanity checker | 18:43 |
| kergoth | hm, possibly still require it on the host for all the cases wher ea reciope needs it for the build prcoess but doesn't dep on python2-native | 18:44 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How set git project to release recipe in Yocto by 'devtool finish' command? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54371132/how-set-git-project-to-release-recipe-in-yocto-by-devtool-finish-command> | 18:55 |
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| rburton | kroon: 2 is needed for some recipes that assume py2 is present | 19:46 |
| rburton | eventually that will fade away but not yet | 19:46 |
| kroon | rburton: ok | 19:47 |
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| halstead | AB is ready for more builds. | 20:43 |
| nate0202 | I'm trying to make a native recipe for a binary i need. It builds fine and the build/temp/work/x86.../image directory is as expectected. But nothing is showing up in the recipe-sysroot-native directory of my recipe that depends on it | 20:49 |
| JPEW | armpit: Planning any thud builds soon? | 20:55 |
| JPEW | armpit: (On the AB) | 20:56 |
| nate0202 | Well, I say as expected, the binary is located at ../image/usr/bin , whereas other native builds seem to have a different image folder than non-native recipes. | 20:56 |
| nate0202 | tar for instance: ../image/yocto/cci/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/tar-native/1.29-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/tar-native/tar | 20:57 |
| kergoth | tar is a special case. | 20:57 |
| kergoth | but it sounds like you didn tinherit native | 20:57 |
| kergoth | don't look to any recipe with a 'replacement-native' PROVIDES as an example, they're not usual | 20:58 |
| nate0202 | i did inherit native | 20:58 |
| kergoth | without seeing the actual recipe there's a limit to what we can do for you | 20:59 |
| kergoth | but the first thing is to make sure it actually obyes our paths | 20:59 |
| kergoth | it needs to install to ${D}${bindir}, not ${D}/usr/bin | 20:59 |
| nate0202 | the cmake file for this binary is really complex. | 21:01 |
| nate0202 | the recipe is very simple though, inherit cmake pkgconfig native | 21:01 |
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| nate0202 | a couple EXTRA_OECMAKE arguments and that's it | 21:02 |
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| nate0202 | kergoth, should I just override the do_install and install my binary manually? | 21:05 |
| kergoth | ideally you'd fix the underlying cmake buildsystem to obey standard cmake paths, which our bbclass already adjusts, but that'd be one option to hack it for now | 21:07 |
| nate0202 | Ok, i'll see what I can do, thanks for the info. | 21:08 |
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| nate0202 | so in the cmake files I'm seeing "install blah ver RUNTIME DESTINATION /usr/bin" I changed these to "install blah ver RUNTIME DESTINATION bin", seems to work now!! Thanks | 21:42 |
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| kroon | anything special I need to for an autotools project to generate intl/ during configure, besides inheriting autotools and gettext ? | 22:05 |
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| kroon | EXTRA_AUTORECONF_remove = "--exclude=autopoint" and depend on gettext-native seems to do the trick .. | 22:28 |
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