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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to build redhat root file system? [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54318865/how-to-build-redhat-root-file-system> | 02:35 |
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| khem | RP: my local builds with tunes change look good for cortex-a5 machine | 05:52 |
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| yacar_ | hi Tom_builder, you shall refer to 3.1. Setting Up to Use the Extensible SDK of https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.1/sdk-manual/sdk-manual.html | 09:21 |
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| Guest40284 | Hi, in my team we are considering upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6. | 10:11 |
| Guest40284 | While looking for some docs etc, I've found that 2.6 is not in download page, no release note on we site . Is 2.6 a "regular" stable release? | 10:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest40284: it certainly is, but it its strongly encouraged to use git | 10:13 |
| Guest40284 | Yep we use git, it's just that while looking for some migration doc etc, there are several places where 2.5.2 and 2.4.4 are mentionned but 2.6.x is not so I was wondering. | 10:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest40284: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.6/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#moving-to-the-yocto-project-2.6-release | 10:18 |
| Guest40284 | Is there some info about test report generation using 2.6? We used to do xml output but it went away in 2.6, what are the other possibilities, especially to plug result in CI? | 10:18 |
| Guest40284 | yep I got this doc , but thanks | 10:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | well you asked for the migration doc, and thats it :) | 10:19 |
| Guest40284 | OK I was not clear, sorry | 10:20 |
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| RP | rburton: some worrying data: wget https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20190127-9/testresults/qemux86-64-ptest/testresults.json | 11:30 |
| RP | rburton: then cat testresults.json | sed 's/\\n/\n/g' > testresults1.json | 11:30 |
| RP | rburton: then grep for TIMEOUT: | 11:30 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to integrate Yocto Project and GCOV to find out coverage report? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54401095/how-to-integrate-yocto-project-and-gcov-to-find-out-coverage-report> | 11:37 |
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| derRichard | can yocto create me a src.rpm? | 12:02 |
| derRichard | i fear the answer is "no", but maybe i miss something | 12:04 |
| derRichard | hmm, the source archiver sounds good | 12:11 |
| Crofton | yeah | 12:12 |
| Crofton | We do the same sort of thing differently | 12:12 |
| rburton | derRichard: it can but only if you dont' expect to be able to rebuild it | 12:12 |
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| derRichard | rburton: hmmm. it is more or less (ab)used as tar ball? ;) | 12:13 |
| rburton | yes | 12:14 |
| rburton | if you do want srcrpm that you can rpmbuild then http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-translator/ exists but dear god i'm lucky i survived writing that. don't use it. that's an argument for why you shouldn't do that. | 12:14 |
| derRichard | rburton: ok :-) | 12:16 |
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| * kanavin couldn't resist looking | 12:27 | |
| kanavin | " Whereas in normal usage package_rpm is | 12:27 |
| kanavin | used to generate a minimal .spec that can build a binary package, | 12:27 |
| kanavin | meta-translator generates a more complex .spec that includes the build | 12:27 |
| kanavin | instructions from the .bb input so that the generated SRPM can be rebuild in | 12:27 |
| kanavin | another build system (for example, OBS). | 12:27 |
| kanavin | " | 12:27 |
| kanavin | that does sound like it's barely feasible | 12:28 |
| rburton | correct! | 12:28 |
| derRichard | in my case t'll go for tar ball :) | 12:28 |
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| RP | Having two mechanisms to do the same thing means by definition one is broken | 12:54 |
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| derRichard | RP: computers are very, very broken :-) | 13:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: disagreed. | 13:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: it means by definition AT LEAST one is broken | 13:00 |
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| derRichard | hmm, isn't there some fetchall command in bitbake to download all needed sources? | 13:11 |
| derRichard | ah, not for images ;-\ | 13:11 |
| derRichard | --runall=fetch it is^^ | 13:13 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: true :) | 13:21 |
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| RP | derRichard: that is the best way | 13:22 |
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| derRichard | RP: just noticed that yocto still started to build stuff. i tried: bitbake --runall=fetch myimage | 13:23 |
| derRichard | i want to download all sources but not more | 13:23 |
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| RP | derRichard: its probably building something like svn-native ? | 13:27 |
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| RP | derRichard: if that is a problem, tweak ASSUME_PROVIDED? | 13:28 |
| RP | and HOSTTOOLS | 13:28 |
| derRichard | RP: it started to build python-native plus a ton dependencies. i guess to run the git fetch python tooling? | 13:30 |
| RP | derRichard: git is in ASSUME_PROVIDED so I still suspect svn | 13:30 |
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| * derRichard runs again and finds | 13:32 | |
| derRichard | at least none of *my* recipes has a svn src-uri :) | 13:32 |
| RP | derRichard: it could be another fetcher dependency, I'm just guessing | 13:34 |
| derRichard | i will find out | 13:35 |
| derRichard | if it builds only fetcher stuff, this is no big deal | 13:35 |
| RP | derRichard: use bitbake -g <other options> and have a look at task-depends.dot | 13:35 |
| derRichard | i don't have a 1000 inc screen ;) | 13:36 |
| derRichard | *inch | 13:36 |
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| kanavin | derRichard: the .dot file is entirely textual and easy to make sense of, there's a misconception that you need to convert it to some enormous svg, but you don't. | 13:39 |
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| derRichard | kristoiv: true, the dot file is really something one can get a sane info out | 13:45 |
| derRichard | RP: bingo, svn it is | 13:45 |
| derRichard | "tremor.do_fetch" -> "subversion-native.do_populate_sysroot" | 13:45 |
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| RP | derRichard: I'd quite like to find a different url for tremor so we don't have any svn urls | 13:51 |
| RP | derRichard: ah, you're on an older release. We did get rid of that :) | 13:52 |
| derRichard | RP: this project is sumo, yes | 13:53 |
| * derRichard is currently working on many yocto projects | 13:53 | |
| derRichard | upgrade from rocko, a nightmare (not because of yocto, other horrors...) | 13:56 |
| RP | rburton: replied about the problems in the systemd patches, dropped from -next, retrying a new patchset. Have worked with Khem to find what I think is a good fix for the arm tune issues | 14:11 |
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| kanavin | RP: I am working on python-sanity btw :) just writing a test that would catch the notorious quiet module build regressions | 14:24 |
| kanavin | ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/alexander/development/poky/build-python-sanity/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/python3-native/3.7.2-r0/temp/log.do_install.129812 | 14:26 |
| kanavin | Log data follows: | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | DEBUG: Executing shell function do_install | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | The necessary bits to build these optional modules were not found: | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | _bz2 _curses _curses_panel | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | _dbm _gdbm _hashlib | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | _sqlite3 _ssl _tkinter | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | _uuid readline | 14:26 |
| kanavin | | | 14:26 |
| kanavin | \0/ | 14:26 |
| RP | kanavin: nice :) | 14:28 |
| RP | kanavin: I'm just depressed at the ptest output :( | 14:28 |
| kanavin | RP: that's hardly surprising though, as no one made a focused effort to make that better | 14:30 |
| kanavin | plus, we don't really enable it, so it doesn't get visibility in downstream | 14:31 |
| RP | kanavin: yes and no. The autobuilder does give us results and QA does compare them. They're just more broken than I'd like | 14:33 |
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| nacknick | after I use populate_sdk - how should I use it? I want to compile a program for the board | 14:43 |
| nacknick | I tried to run /opt/fslc-framebuffer/2.4.4/sysroots/armv7ahf-neon-linux-gnueabi/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc - but it says "/lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3: No such file or directory" | 14:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: you have to source the environment file that comes with the sdk. after that, in that very shell all necessary things should be set | 14:46 |
| nacknick | do you mean to configure "sysroot" path? | 14:47 |
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| khem | RP: a new QA error i am seeing is 06:32:43 ERROR: python-twisted-18.4.0-r0 do_package: QA Issue: python-twisted-src is listed in PACKAGES multiple times, this leads to packaging errors. [packages-list] | 14:56 |
| JPEW | khem: Is that with master-next? | 14:56 |
| JPEW | khem: If so, its probably because of 8fd8ae119c0 ("Change default debug split to make separate source packages") | 14:58 |
| khem | yes | 14:58 |
| JPEW | khem: Looks like that recipe is it is making it's own -src package (not particularly sure of the reason)... | 15:02 |
| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: How should I use gcc? I could not figure it out | 15:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: ". environment.sh" in the shell you want to use for building | 15:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | after that, your build system should be able use the newly set environment. | 15:04 |
| * derRichard wonders why poky sets in rpms as build host "reproducible", but sets the build date to the current date. :-D | 15:09 | |
| khem | JPEW: yah it needs some TLC | 15:10 |
| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: do you mean "./setup-environment" which I ran before using bitbake? because I've already ran it | 15:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: thats the point. do not run it, source it. | 15:14 |
| nacknick | "source it"? I'm not sure what does it mean | 15:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ". setup-environment" | 15:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: and if in doubt, google "bash source" | 15:19 |
| RP | khem: that patch is likely to merge soon, that issue is in the recipe | 15:23 |
| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: "source setup-environment build" for instance? | 15:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: now, why "build"?!? | 15:28 |
| nacknick | instead of "build" I need to choose another directory? | 15:28 |
| nacknick | I don't know which one :S | 15:28 |
| nacknick | -- /opt/fslc-framebuffer/2.4.4/sysroots/armv7ahf-neon-linux-gnueabi/ ?? | 15:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | nacknick: i totally and strongly suggest to have a look at the corresponding documentation: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#sdk-using-the-standard-sdk | 15:31 |
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| RP | alimon: around? | 15:40 |
| yates | when you do a "devtool mdoify -x <package> src/blah", are the existing patches for package applied? | 15:40 |
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| kergoth | the tree is constructed based on SRC_URI by running unpack & patch | 15:46 |
| yates | so yes.. | 15:47 |
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| rburton | nacknick: the sdk doesn't have 'build directories' | 15:54 |
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| malanecora | Hi dudes! I have a crda/wireless-regdb bbappend with some python scripts to create keys...but the build is failing due to "ImportError: No module named builtins" | 15:55 |
| malanecora | If I install the package python-builtins, the error that arises is "ImportError: No module named attr" | 15:55 |
| malanecora | python-future* | 15:55 |
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| rburton | is your append broken? | 15:58 |
| rburton | there is no standard python module called attr | 15:58 |
| rburton | maybe you need to depend on https://github.com/python-attrs/attrs | 15:59 |
| malanecora | rburton: I supose | 15:59 |
| malanecora | rburton: It worked fine until I upgradesd from Rocko to Thud | 16:00 |
| rburton | well, if the code uses python-attrs then you'll need to have that in dependencies | 16:00 |
| malanecora | rburton: Yep, gonna try that. Ty! | 16:01 |
| malanecora | rburton: No luck at all | 16:03 |
| kergoth | it wasn't called 'attr' in rocko either | 16:03 |
| malanecora | kergoth: sure it was not | 16:03 |
| malanecora | kergoth: The installation of python-future might be modifiying the script | 16:04 |
| malanecora | kergoth: I just installed python-future in order to fix the builtins module import error | 16:05 |
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| malanecora | kergoth: Though it seems to fix nothing :P | 16:05 |
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| kergoth | that's not a correct fix indeed. future should be used by the authors of the project where appropriate not a user trying to get it to run. builtins is aprt of python itself, not the future package unless they're dealing with python version incompatibilities and actually use futures directly | 16:06 |
| kergoth | future, rather | 16:06 |
| malanecora | kergoth: hmmm...got it | 16:07 |
| malanecora | kergoth: I'll have to struggle with this a little more | 16:08 |
| nacknick | LetoThe2nd: Thank you very much. I was looking for that manual... | 16:10 |
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| rburton | malanecora: might be better to paste the actual errors | 16:30 |
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| alimon | RP: hi | 16:49 |
| RP | alimon: were you looking at the ptest runtime test code or were you leaving that to me? I just looked at it and I see what you mean about the code :/ | 16:52 |
| RP | alimon: I just don't want to duplicate effort if you're looking at it | 16:52 |
| RP | alimon: I also wondered if you'd seen cases where processes persisted after ptest-runner had supposedly killed them and intermixed logging in a confusing way | 16:53 |
| yates | how do i find out the current "active recipe", i.e., a recipe which would be cleared with "devtool reset -a"? | 16:55 |
| alimon | RP: I had the intent to fix the ptest runtime test but not spend time on it yet, I have certain workload these days so if you want to do it go ahead. | 16:58 |
| alimon | RP: regarding the corruption on the logging, I didn't see anything like that, In the ptest-runner code I use a pipes (stdout, stderr) and close after the process ends. | 16:59 |
| florian | Uh, looks like the gitsm fetcher in thud is broken submodule specs without a hostname. | 17:02 |
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| florian | A line like url = git@bitbucket.org:someone/something.git in .gitmodules ends up in ... protocol=git@bitbucket.org | 17:04 |
| mdp | florian, smurray mentioned he was possibly looking at a fix for some aspect of broken gitsm on thud the other day. dunno if he'll chime in today wrt his findings as he's off teaching a f2f class atm. | 17:04 |
| florian | mdp: ok, the first pats sounds good... the second not that much :-) | 17:05 |
| RP | florian: there are a ton of gitsm fixes on master | 17:05 |
| mdp | florian: I was only half-listening, but his issue might be specific to subdirectories of submodules | 17:05 |
| florian | RP: I'll give them a try... these fix this issue it might be good to get them into stable as well. | 17:06 |
| RP | florian: well, they fix several things and break others. I'm waiting until its stable first | 17:07 |
| RP | florian: if master doesn't work we'd love to know about it and get that fixed (and test case added) | 17:07 |
| armpit | RP, want me to process your master-next build? | 17:08 |
| florian | RP: okay | 17:08 |
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| armpit | RP, the perf builds being run, do they land on the wiki or should they? | 17:10 |
| RP | armpit: I posted about the systemd boot failures on list so they're covered (and the broken patch is still in -next so I need to drop that) | 17:11 |
| RP | armpit: we probably need bugs for the "random" failures we keep seeing :( | 17:12 |
| armpit | k, will look into | 17:12 |
| RP | armpit: the perf builds, not sure if they hit the wiki or not. they do hit the performance mailing list though | 17:12 |
| armpit | RP, I am thinking in the case if they fail to run. does that show up in the perf mailing list? | 17:13 |
| RP | armpit: no, failures are not covered there | 17:14 |
| armpit | k | 17:14 |
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| RP | armpit: we just changed things on the perf machines so they;re about twice as fast now. Had to reset the stats repo so we don't compare apples to oranges | 17:15 |
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| RP | armpit: you ask a lot of good questions, I just wish I had better answers | 17:16 |
| RP | alimon: thanks, I guess whichever of us gets to it first :) | 17:16 |
| RP | alimon: I'll look more into the logs issue, I could be misreading things somehow or they could be getting corrupted | 17:17 |
| khem | RP: yes its in recipe as I noted | 17:18 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: What is the recommended way to organize Yocto project repository(-ies)? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53907168/what-is-the-recommended-way-to-organize-yocto-project-repository-ies> | 17:38 |
| dkc | is there a way with wic/wks to create a partition with a few files extra-files in it? To store config files for instance | 17:41 |
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| mnemoc | I use `repo`, `build-*` and `downloads/` directories at the root of the workspace, and everything else inside at `sources/*` | 17:51 |
| mnemoc | works-for-me (tm) | 17:51 |
| mnemoc | yocti ---^ | 17:52 |
| yocti | mnemoc: Error: "---^" is not a valid command. | 17:52 |
| * mnemoc ashamed | 17:52 | |
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| rburton | mnemoc: yocti is a bot, one of the things it does is post new relevant posts from SO | 17:55 |
| rburton | hello, yocti | 17:55 |
| rburton | hm | 17:55 |
| rburton | yocti: hello | 17:55 |
| yocti | rburton: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. | 17:55 |
| rburton | rude | 17:55 |
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| RP | yocti: praise rburton | 17:56 |
| yocti | RP: Error: There are no praises in my database for #yocto. | 17:56 |
| rburton | even ruder! | 17:57 |
| rburton | kanavin_: why do you need vte-native? | 17:58 |
| RP | yocti: karma rburton | 17:59 |
| yocti | RP: Karma for "rburton" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. | 17:59 |
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| khem | halstead: http://git.openembedded.org/ comes out to be marked "not secure" on browser i wonder if this should be fixed | 21:13 |
| halstead | khem, http:// URLs are always "not secure". | 21:15 |
| halstead | khem, Perhaps we should offer https://git.openembedded.org/ though. We haven't yet. | 21:16 |
| khem | so we should get https setup then maybe Crofton should help | 21:16 |
| Crofton|work | oh bother | 21:17 |
| halstead | khem, Is someone calling for https://git.openembedded.org/ ? | 21:17 |
| khem | halstead: no but | 21:17 |
| Crofton|work | planning ahead | 21:17 |
| halstead | Just a good idea in general? | 21:17 |
| khem | I think browsers are getting tighter | 21:17 |
| * Crofton|work is waiting for a plane | 21:17 | |
| khem | Crofton|work: dont wait .. let it come | 21:18 |
| halstead | Browsers will "never" stop supporting http:// | 21:18 |
| Crofton|work | yeah | 21:18 |
| Crofton|work | but browsers will warn it is shit :) | 21:18 |
| khem | halstead: yes but they will start bitching about it more and more | 21:18 |
| Crofton|work | been on email/OE admin bing during layover | 21:18 |
| khem | and does not give a lot of confidence when someone sees that | 21:18 |
| Crofton|work | +1 | 21:18 |
| Crofton|work | we are being forced to drop http:// | 21:19 |
| Crofton|work | by forces of good | 21:19 |
| khem | especially security guys who are driven to ban http urls as much as they can | 21:19 |
| halstead | Are there really security staff who want to ban read-only http:// public websites? | 21:22 |
| Crofton|work | it is likely :) | 21:23 |
| * halstead shrugs. | 21:23 | |
| halstead | I suppose they have to justify their jobs somehow. | 21:23 |
| halstead | Anyway adding https is easy enough and I'm happy to do that. | 21:24 |
| halstead | I could use an easy task right now. ;) | 21:24 |
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| halstead | khem, Crofton|work All set, https://git.openembedded.org/ | 21:29 |
| Crofton|work | heh | 21:30 |
| Crofton|work | thanks | 21:30 |
| khem | halstead: that was fast | 21:32 |
| khem | halstead: how about doing same for all yocto and oe sites | 21:32 |
| khem | e.g. http://errors.yoctoproject.org/ | 21:33 |
| khem | halstead: maybe disable http for git.oe.org ? | 21:33 |
| khem | oh well that can wait may be | 21:33 |
| * khem sees a nice lock next to git.oe.org feels so good | 21:35 | |
| halstead | khem, People probably count on the existing links working. I wouldn't not mess with that. Especially when there is no benefit. | 21:35 |
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| Crofton|work | emotional support symbol | 21:36 |
| khem | halstead: https://konklone.com/post/were-deprecating-http-and-its-going-to-be-okay | 21:36 |
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| khem | https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/marking-http-as-non-secure | 21:37 |
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| halstead | khem, Is there a problem with https://errors.yoctoproject.org/ ? | 21:41 |
| khem | no, my link needs adjusting | 21:43 |
| khem | but I wonder when I type error.yp.org it should default to https and http | 21:43 |
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| halstead | khem, If you want your browser to prefer https when you enter a partial URL you can install https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere | 21:45 |
| halstead | khem, By default your browser prefers http when you don't include the protocol. | 21:46 |
| khem | halstead: yeah it does not help when bookmarks have http :) | 21:47 |
| halstead | khem, Thanks for the article. Let me know if you spot any YP or OE sites that don't allow https. It should be available everywhere. We force https for logins but otherwise try to leave the protocol up to the user. | 21:49 |
| halstead | khem, We can look in to domains where we can force https for users all the the time. I don't want to force any automated processes to change though. | 21:56 |
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| khem | thats ok a soft nudge to start using https will go long way | 22:01 |
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| halstead | khem, For http://git.openembedded.org/ I've made it redirect to https://git.openembedded.org/. Other URLs will be served though. This will help people who type the domain and search engine rankings without much possibility of breaking any old scripts. (same for errors.yp) | 22:42 |
| khem | superb | 22:42 |
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| RP | khem: tune change passed testing | 22:54 |
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| khem | RP: yay | 22:58 |
| kroon | I can't run aclocal on target, complains about missing signals, perl -le 'print for keys %SIG', yields nothing | 22:59 |
| kroon | wonder if its a regression since the perl updates | 22:59 |
| khem | halstead: https://openembedded.org says Info or Not secure | 23:00 |
| khem | details see https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95617?visit_id=636843131537615008-1464303268&p=ui_security_indicator&rd=1 | 23:00 |
| khem | even if its https | 23:00 |
| khem | yp.org is ok | 23:00 |
| halstead | khem, It's because of the paypal button on the OE site. | 23:03 |
| rburton | kroon: huh the ab *should* be exercising that | 23:04 |
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