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| Jacobenz | Hi Team, I'm Jacob, new to linux foundation as the product owner of Dev Analytics. I'm just checking out the tools you use to collaborate. Have a great one! | 01:21 |
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| alessioigor | good morning | 06:11 |
| alessioigor | Could you point me to the relevant documentation for install and use mingw32 based SDK, please? | 06:11 |
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| luckywho | Hi Guys, i'm facing some issue with python in oe. | 08:14 |
| luckywho | Missing Python modules on target | 08:17 |
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| litb | hello folks | 09:40 |
| litb | can the sstate-cach be relocated to outside the build/, once it has been populated? | 09:40 |
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| LetoThe2nd | litb: nope | 09:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | litb: there might be evil magic with links etc, but i'd expect a lot of breakage. hence, just "no" | 09:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | luckywho: can you please be more specific? | 09:58 |
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| luckywho | LetoThe2nd, I'm using python 2.7.13 in openembedded core. Target, /usr/lib/python2.7/ i have limited library modules. In target i don't have specific reason why many modules such subprocess, string, textwrap and manymore are not their in target. I'm missing many modules. | 10:07 |
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| luckywho | http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/log/meta/recipes-devtools/python?h=rocko | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | luckywho: python is split into a lot of smaller packages for space efficiency reasons. so, install the modules you need specifically. find some inspiratoin here: http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-python/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-meta-python.bb?h=master | 10:09 |
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| luckywho | LetoThe2nd: Thanks for your help. BUt i don't have meta-python folder. I can see meta & meta-poky folder. http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/log/meta/recipes-devtools/python?h=rocko | 10:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | luckywho: same reasoning applies. please see: http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/python?h=rocko | 10:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | more specifically, see http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python-2.7-manifest.inc?h=rocko | 10:20 |
| litb | LetoThe2nd, thanks | 10:20 |
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| rburton | litb: sstate-cache can be moves, yes | 11:04 |
| rburton | luckywho: if you want all of py then add python-modules to the image | 11:05 |
| rburton | in fact, just python should be sufficient with a recent release. | 11:05 |
| luckywho | rburton: How? | 11:06 |
| rburton | add python to IMAGE_INSTALL for the image you're building | 11:06 |
| luckywho | rburton: Will it be local.conf file. I'm noob in yocto. | 11:13 |
| rburton | luckywho: you can do that, but ideally if you want a custom image, make a custom image. copy and edit the image file that you're building already. | 11:13 |
| litb | rburton, so is LetoThe2nd wrong that I can't move it? | 11:18 |
| rburton | yes, sstate can easily be moved | 11:18 |
| rburton | you can't move tmp/ inside the build directory, but you can just delete that and rebuild from sstate in seconds | 11:19 |
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| luckywho | rburton: In poky/build/conf/local.conf, IMAGE_INSTALL += "python". Is that correct? | 11:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: ah nice. thanks for the correction. messe dup tmp and sstate then, me. | 11:24 |
| rburton | luckywho: if you're going to do it in local.conf then IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " python" is probably safer as i've no idea what image you're using. this is in the manual, btw. | 11:25 |
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| litb | rburton, should I trust you or LetoThe2nd | 11:49 |
| rburton | litb: me, obviously :) | 11:49 |
| litb | rburton, i see, you seem to have 40 repositories on github. sounds trustworthy | 11:50 |
| RP | litb: rburton is right, you can move sstate | 11:51 |
| RP | litb: I wrote large chunks of sstate code if that helps ;-) | 11:51 |
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| litb | thanks folks. you saved me so much time! | 11:57 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Yocto ERROR: Function failed: SYSTEMD_SERVICE_package value myservice.service does not exist <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56460650/yocto-error-function-failed-systemd-service-package-value-myservice-service-do> | 12:39 |
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| lpapp | hi, why does HOST_ARCH not make it into my makefile if I use make -e in my do_compile? | 14:11 |
| lpapp | if I do make HOST_ARCH=$(HOST_ARCH) ... then it makes it into the Makefile. | 14:11 |
| qschulz | look into oe_runmake | 14:17 |
| qschulz | it takes EXTRA_OEMAKE variable and put it as argument of make in oe_runmake_call | 14:18 |
| qschulz | I guess HOST_ARCH is put into this variable? | 14:18 |
| qschulz | if you're only wanting to pass some more variables to make, just do an EXTRA_OEMAKE += "jqlrvrg" and leave do_compile without modifications | 14:19 |
| lpapp | that is a real shame. | 14:20 |
| lpapp | I thought make -e will make all the bitbake environment variables directly accessible | 14:20 |
| lpapp | so my only option is FOO=${FOO} then to make it directly accessible | 14:20 |
| lpapp | but then I am puzzled entirely how other environment variables like compilation flags, etc, make it into our build system. It is a complete mystery... | 14:21 |
| lpapp | I think it would make no sense to wrap it all from environment into EXTRA_OEMAKE... | 14:21 |
| lpapp | since no build system wants to build openembedded specific variables into their build system... that would be nightmare. | 14:21 |
| lpapp | so I find it hard to believe it. | 14:21 |
| qschulz | yes, you need EXTRA_OEMAKE += "FOO=${FOO}" to pass FOO to your makefile | 14:23 |
| lpapp | our do_compile is: "make -e LD="${CCLD}" CCACHE=0 foo" | 14:24 |
| qschulz | foo is your target I guess? | 14:24 |
| lpapp | yeah | 14:24 |
| lpapp | also, why does Yocto set HOST_ARCH as arm | 14:24 |
| lpapp | but ARCH to arm in the SDK | 14:24 |
| lpapp | should they not be consistent | 14:24 |
| lpapp | so any project using yocto or the sdk to build, they can rely on one variable, not multiple | 14:25 |
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| qschulz | oe_runmake foo and you add your "flags" to EXTRA_OEMAKE | 14:25 |
| lpapp | qschulz: if I have to do that, I would rather do make ... FOO=$(FOO) | 14:25 |
| lpapp | than an extra line | 14:25 |
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| qschulz | I'd not | 14:26 |
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| qschulz | you depends on LDFLAGS, CFLAGS, etc... | 14:26 |
| qschulz | ag my bad | 14:26 |
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| qschulz | I guess you should be able to do oe_runmake -e -e LD="${CCLD}" CCACHE=0 foo | 14:27 |
| qschulz | oe_runmake, not make | 14:27 |
| qschulz | (and only one -e, bad copy-pasting) | 14:27 |
| qschulz | if you use make, you loose everything that is in EXTRA_OEMAKE | 14:27 |
| lpapp | why is TARGET_ARCH not set | 14:28 |
| lpapp | it should be according to manual if HOST_ARCH is set, but bitbake -e foo | grep ^TARGET_ARCH shows it empty | 14:28 |
| kuzulis | Hi guys. Why when I try to add the RDEPENDS_${PN} = "... \gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly-meta" to my packagegroup, then the bitbake say that nothing provides this package? But as I can see in /sources/poky/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/ thnen I see that the gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly_1.10.4.bb is present.. | 14:28 |
| qschulz | some variables are resolved later | 14:28 |
| lpapp | kuzulis: I do not know. But there is a meta difference | 14:29 |
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| qschulz | Is there a ${PN}-meta in gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly_1.10.4.bb? | 14:30 |
| lpapp | qschulz: bitbake -e foo | grep ^EXTRA_OEMAKE -> returns empty | 14:30 |
| lpapp | qschulz: should I use HOST_ARCH or TARGET_ARCH | 14:30 |
| lpapp | furthermore, why not ARCH like in the SDK? | 14:30 |
| lpapp | why inconsistency | 14:30 |
| kuzulis | qschulz: No, there no any 'meta' mention. | 14:31 |
| qschulz | lpapp: look into the workdir of your recipe, you have a temp directory. In there, you have run.do_something and log.do_something. Former is what is run, latter is the log of what is run. It might help you later anyway | 14:32 |
| kuzulis | qschulz: But, when I add 'gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad-meta' to my RDEPENDS_${PN} then it does work, even if gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad_1.10.4.bb has not any 'meta' mention | 14:33 |
| qschulz | lpapp: Host for host, target for target. Depends on what you're building. Native? Host most likely. For your DUT? Target most likely. | 14:33 |
| qschulz | I'm no Yocto developer honestly so just giving my 2cts | 14:34 |
| lpapp | qschulz: what is DUT? | 14:34 |
| qschulz | device under test | 14:34 |
| qschulz | or your target if you prefer | 14:34 |
| lpapp | yeah, building within Yocto for arm | 14:34 |
| lpapp | in an Intel vm | 14:35 |
| lpapp | qschulz: do we really need -e with oe_runmake and explicit var maps | 14:36 |
| lpapp | well | 14:37 |
| lpapp | lpapp@yocto-build-32:~/Projects/polatis/Yocto/src/build$ bitbake -c cleanall | 14:37 |
| lpapp | ERROR: Only one copy of bitbake should be run against a build directory | 14:37 |
| lpapp | lpapp@yocto-build-32:~/Projects/polatis/Yocto/src/build$ killall bitbake | 14:37 |
| lpapp | bitbake: no process found | 14:37 |
| lpapp | lpapp@yocto-build-32:~/Projects/polatis/Yocto/src/build$ | 14:37 |
| lpapp | how is this possible :) | 14:37 |
| qschulz | bitbake.lock | 14:38 |
| lpapp | hmm | 14:38 |
| lpapp | so why is ARCH not defaulting to TARGET_ARCH | 14:39 |
| lpapp | so that build systems can rely on the ARCH variable both in and outside Yocto | 14:39 |
| qschulz | Yocto is a build system | 14:39 |
| lpapp | ikr | 14:40 |
| qschulz | so I don't quite understand what you're trying to say | 14:41 |
| qschulz | AH, I guess you want to be able to use the same makefile without too much magic and use ARCH since it's what's used most of the time | 14:41 |
| lpapp | yeah | 14:42 |
| lpapp | I guess ARCH="${TARGET_ARCH}" is uncool for everyone included | 14:42 |
| qschulz | I'd have a look at the kernel recipes, since I remember compiling it with make ARCH= and I'm not sure it actually supports TARGET_ARCH | 14:42 |
| qschulz | so there needs to be something in the kernel recipe | 14:43 |
| qschulz | (might be in the kernel.bbclass also) | 14:43 |
| lpapp | by the way, TARGET_ARCH does not work for me | 14:43 |
| qschulz | (beware, it's a pretty huge and complex recipe/class) | 14:43 |
| lpapp | HOST_ARCH does | 14:43 |
| lpapp | it looks like TARGET_ARCH is not set, why? | 14:43 |
| lpapp | oh, sorry, I was wrong | 14:44 |
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| lpapp | we also run make strip in the do_compile target after make | 14:45 |
| lpapp | is there a way to do it automatically with oe_runmake? | 14:45 |
| lpapp | oe_runmake ARCH="${TARGET_ARCH}" LD="${CCLD}" CCACHE=0 target | 14:45 |
| lpapp | oe_runmake strip | 14:45 |
| lpapp | these two in one line? | 14:45 |
| rburton | no because make will run both in parallel | 14:46 |
| lpapp | target strip maybe | 14:46 |
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| rburton | (this is a make question, not yocto) | 14:46 |
| lpapp | probably true | 14:46 |
| lpapp | make target will not strip though | 14:47 |
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| qschulz | lpapp: why do you want it in one line? | 14:49 |
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| lpapp | qschulz: avoid the word make twice | 15:05 |
| lpapp | or oe_runmake for that matter | 15:05 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to fix "undefined reference to symbol 'vxCannyEdgeDetectorNode'" error compiling openvx on yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56463256/how-to-fix-undefined-reference-to-symbol-vxcannyedgedetectornode-error-compi> | 15:09 |
| armpit | behanw, did you get the updated slide dec? | 15:16 |
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| JPEW | RP: I'm seeing some weird reproducibility problems related to RDEPENDS..... it looks like RDEPENDS get pulled into the RSS, but not consistently (or reproducibly) | 16:00 |
| JPEW | For example, in one run acl finds"echo" from the host, and in another its from the RSS | 16:01 |
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| RP | JPEW: this sounds like investigation is needed. I'm not entirely surprised :/ | 16:03 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Set new user permissions in Yocto recipe <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56463788/set-new-user-permissions-in-yocto-recipe> | 16:09 |
| RP | JPEW: oh, I might be able to explain that | 16:14 |
| RP | JPEW: RSS is populated "as needed" so if do_package has a dependency it would only get added at do_package time. It might not be there at do_compile time | 16:14 |
| RP | JPEW: I talked about how we have recipe specific sysroots and not task specific sysroots in the original pull request for the work | 16:15 |
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| JPEW | RP: Does that mean if a recipe is rebuilt the RSS might have different contents left over from the last run? | 16:42 |
| RP | JPEW: yes | 16:44 |
| RP | JPEW: well the tasks are meant to to use anything they don't explicitly depend upon | 16:44 |
| RP | not to use | 16:45 |
| RP | JPEW: reality is there is some potential window there and it was a known problem with the design of RSS. I don't know how we could avoid it really | 16:45 |
| RP | task specific sysroots would be insane and really hard to make work and we can't know all the task dependencies at do_configure time (some are circular too) | 16:46 |
| RP | (also changing the compiler paths between configure and compile turned out to be near impossible to make workable) | 16:47 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Unable to Upgrade A Recipe for a Meta-Layer in Yocto Krogoth <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56465052/unable-to-upgrade-a-recipe-for-a-meta-layer-in-yocto-krogoth> | 17:09 |
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| litb | hello folks | 18:14 |
| litb | is there a workflow for creating a distribution installer? I.e let's assume you have created your image, and now you want an installer for that firmware, that boots up when customers want to upgrade to that firmware | 18:15 |
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| litb | is there a framework for that, that can be used with yocto? | 18:15 |
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| RP | litb: it tends to be very usecase specific. I know people have done it, not sure there is a standard framework though | 18:29 |
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| * RP should probably mention https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/ now its providing more useful info in the index | 18:51 | |
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| JPEW | Is that only successful builds? | 19:07 |
| RP | JPEW: no, any build on the AB that generated testresults | 19:08 |
| JPEW | nice | 19:08 |
| RP | oh, it also now has https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20190605-1/testresults/qemuarm64-ptest-fast/ *.log | 19:08 |
| RP | i.e. all ptest logs are extracted magically | 19:09 |
| RP | JPEW: your code in action :) | 19:11 |
| RP | lets me close a few more bugs :) | 19:11 |
| JPEW | Good.... I opened one about the RSS + reproducibility | 19:12 |
| JPEW | Not sure what to do about it right now, need to have a think | 19:12 |
| RP | JPEW: I'm not sure its a huge issue, we likely just need to force a few config values i.e. sort is just sort, no path | 19:18 |
| RP | maybe hack the actual macro | 19:18 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya thats fair; do you think that should just be done automatically for several of the hosttools? | 19:18 |
| RP | JPEW: possibly. I know I already did it for sed, bash/sh and maybe some others | 19:19 |
| JPEW | Hmm, would that fix it though? If we set SED="sed" it would still actually use the sed from sysroot-native, since it comes before hosttools in PATH. | 19:20 |
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| JPEW | I guess it would make the makescripts consistent and the build outputs would be consistent as long as the two seds acted the same | 19:21 |
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| RP | JPEW: perhaps we should just enforce coreutils not to overlap with HOSTTOOLS? | 19:38 |
| RP | (coreutils-native that is) | 19:38 |
| RP | JPEW: we do already assume that the HOSTTOOLS behave the same really | 19:38 |
| JPEW | As in modify the coreutils-native recipe to not install anything that happens to be in HOSTTOOLS (e.g. echo, sort, etc.)? | 19:39 |
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| m1ster_r0b0t | Good evening everyone! | 20:12 |
| m1ster_r0b0t | one question: has libelf-dev been patched out of elfutils? | 20:15 |
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| rburton | m1ster_r0b0t: nope | 20:28 |
| m1ster_r0b0t | so how can i install it to an image? just add recipes-devtools/elfutils/elfutils_0.176.bb? | 20:34 |
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| rburton | elfutils-dev | 20:59 |
| m1ster_r0b0t | is it inside elfutils? i just get a elfutils RPROVIDES elfutils-dev | 21:04 |
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| rburton | m1ster_r0b0t: elfutils-dev: | 21:19 |
| rburton | /usr/include/dwarf.h | 21:19 |
| rburton | /usr/include/elfutils/elf-knowledge.h | 21:19 |
| rburton | .. | 21:19 |
| rburton | the elfutils recipe builds an elfutils-dev package | 21:19 |
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| m1ster_r0b0t | thx! | 21:50 |
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