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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Failed to bitbake docker in Yocto 4.9.88 (rocko) with meta-virtualization layer <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56659259/failed-to-bitbake-docker-in-yocto-4-9-88-rocko-with-meta-virtualization-layer> | 02:31 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:02 |
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| woutervh | hello. My do_populate_sdk for my image fails on qttools -> warning: library search path "/usr/lib/llvm-6.0/lib" is unsafe for cross-compilation | 07:17 |
| woutervh | \/usr/lib/llvm-6.0/lib/libclang.so: file not recognized: file format not recognized | 07:18 |
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| yacar_ | Hi guys, do you have any hints about this one : https://community.nxp.com/message/1167806 | 08:24 |
| yacar_ | I've found a thread here from two years ago but the issue did not seems to be fixed : https://yocto.yoctoproject.narkive.com/BofTeBvr/esdk-install-script-failure | 08:25 |
| yacar_ | I guess we have the same issue now, but I have try many things and always end up stuck at the same point | 08:27 |
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| litb | hello folks | 09:08 |
| litb | i wonder whether the sstate-cache works like ccache, in a way | 09:08 |
| litb | that it stores .o files | 09:08 |
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| rburton | no | 09:10 |
| rburton | it stores the packages | 09:10 |
| rburton | (and other metadata) | 09:10 |
| rburton | if you delete tmp and rebuild and image from sstate, it simply extracts the packages from sstate and then builds an image, nothing else needs to be done | 09:10 |
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| litb | rburton, ahh, i see! | 09:14 |
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| Piraty | does yocto allow me to use docker images on the system created with yocto? i mean: does it have build recipies for the docker daemon? | 09:25 |
| rburton | Piraty: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=docker | 09:26 |
| Piraty | rburton: thanks a lot! | 09:27 |
| rburton | thats the answer to 'is there a recipe for <x>' | 09:27 |
| Piraty | i see | 09:28 |
| * Piraty bookmarked the link | 09:28 | |
| Piraty | i'm in the process of evaluating build systems so $management can make a decision :-/ | 09:29 |
| rburton | note that meta-virtualisation is behind https://resources.windriver.com/helix-platform/wind-river-helix-virtualization-platform-demonstration work, so presumably it actually works | 09:35 |
| litb | this sentence in the manual reads rather funny: "The source archiver class can generate tarballs and SRPMs and can create them with various levels of compliance in mind. " | 09:41 |
| litb | in my mind, it reads the same as "... and can create them with various levels of non-compliance in mind." | 09:41 |
| rburton | lol yeah the english there isn't great | 09:42 |
| rburton | question: do we want to prefer pigz over gzip (paging RP) | 09:43 |
| rburton | (i think yes) | 09:44 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to configure LIC_FILE_CHECKSUM for https downloads in SRC_URI in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56700957/how-to-configure-lic-file-checksum-for-https-downloads-in-src-uri-in-yocto> | 10:02 |
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| kuzulis | Hi guys. I have updated the yocto layers to 'thud'.. But now, the U-boot can't load the kernel, it say: "Wrong Image Format for bootm command"... When I have replaced the new uImage with an old uImage, then it booted. So, seems that in a new layer the kernel uImage has a different format.. So, my question is: where is it possible to change the Kernel Image format: in yocto or in menuconfig? | 10:15 |
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| RP | rburton: yes, I think so | 10:35 |
| RP | rburton: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/37/builds/739 :/ | 10:36 |
| RP | rburton: | pigz: abort: internal threads error | 10:36 |
| RP | rburton: max open files too low on opensuse151 maybe | 10:37 |
| RP | hmm, same on all the workers | 10:40 |
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| w1ndy_ | Hey guys anyone how to install postgresql? | 11:18 |
| w1ndy_ | I cant use the psql command | 11:19 |
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| litb | hm, why does the core-image.../ folder in deploy/licenses/ sometimes contain license.manifest with a list of all packages in the image.. and sometimes, it doesn't | 11:30 |
| litb | sometimes, it does only contain image_license.manifest with the bootmanager licenses in it! | 11:31 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: core-image-weston with x-server backwards compatibility <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56702397/core-image-weston-with-x-server-backwards-compatibility> | 11:32 |
| w1ndy_ | Someone know how to install postgreSQL and use the psql tool? | 11:36 |
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| litb | hm, when I'm using the archiver class and let it archive the sources used to build the image, does it also archive the build-dependencies? i.e DEPENDS-recipes of them? | 12:23 |
| litb | iirc, GPL requires it | 12:23 |
| rburton | RP: damnit!! | 12:26 |
| rburton | litb: if you do a build from scratch, then it will archive *everything* used | 12:27 |
| rburton | RP: maybe its threading too heavily and hitting the limit anyway? or is the limit huge | 12:27 |
| rburton | RP: oddly i thought sstate_create_package was already using pigz | 12:32 |
| rburton | yes | 12:33 |
| rburton | they all failed like that? | 12:34 |
| rburton | i honestly didn't think i changed anything for the native case | 12:50 |
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| rburton | RP: oh that build only has the priority change, so how can that be my fault :( | 12:57 |
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| kayterina[m] | what do I run to make an 'rpi-sdimg' file from my built without rebiolding? | 13:23 |
| RP | rburton: I'm not blaming you, just bad luck with you asking about pigz I think | 13:23 |
| kayterina[m] | *building | 13:23 |
| RP | rburton: it is odd coincidence though :/ | 13:23 |
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| JPEW | rburton: Ah, I figured it out; I did fix perl-ptest, I just haven't pushed the patches to the mailing list (I wasn't done testing them) | 13:25 |
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| JPEW | rburton: At least, I think http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2019-June/283946.html will fix it | 13:31 |
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| rburton | JPEW: cool | 13:47 |
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| litb | weird. in the manual, it says that in order to use PREMIRROR with git repositories, you need to set BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS : " Causes tarballs of the Git repositories, including the Git metadata, to be placed in the DL_DIR directory. Anyone wishing to create a source mirror would want to enable this variable. " | 14:02 |
| litb | why is this? I don't have set that variable, any my DL_DIR contains git repository clones in DL_DIR. why is this not sufficient to create a source mirror? | 14:02 |
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| JPEW | litb: IIRC BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS pacakges up the git repos a little differently, and you have to do it that way to publish them as a premirror | 14:22 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: CrossCompile jrxtx with yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56705336/crosscompile-jrxtx-with-yocto> | 14:33 |
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| rburton | w1ndy_: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/5558/ | 14:41 |
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| w1ndy_ | rburton, O problema é que esse pacote não instala o psql | 15:07 |
| w1ndy_ | rburton, Sorry for that. The problem is that i cannot use psql. i can only connect to it remotely | 15:08 |
| litb | JPEW, ah i see! | 15:09 |
| litb | maybe it's even more efficient because the git repository will contain all the history while the tarballs could contain just the needed snapshots | 15:10 |
| JPEW | litb: Ya, I'm the "normal" format for git repos in DL_DIR is more efficent that the mirror tarball format, but the mirror tarball lets you get everything in a single file download | 15:11 |
| JPEW | s/I'm/I suspect/ | 15:11 |
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| litb | JPEW, thanks! | 16:09 |
| litb | I'm currently looking into using the archiver.class-generated tarballs as a PREMIRROR. understanding the PREMIRROR syntax is a bit daunting ^^ | 16:10 |
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| litb | this should definitely be part of the manual: https://www.inango.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Yocto-Source-Mirrors-Mechanism.pdf | 16:22 |
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| JPEW | litb: I don't think you can use the archive.class genertated tarballs for PREMIRRORing | 16:28 |
| litb | JPEW, ohh, hm. I thought that it was the whole point that I can hand over the source code for my image to customers, so that they can rebuild and customize it | 16:29 |
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| JPEW | Perhaps for archiver.bbclass, but I don't think thats the purpose of a premirror | 16:30 |
| rburton | archiver is for GPL compliance | 16:31 |
| litb | JPEW, yeah, I'm just reading the above mirror-mechanism pdf and it says that if the protocol is changed for a mirror, then if the original protocol was git, then the changed protocol needs to fetch from a tarball called like 'git2_hostname.path.to.repo.git.tar.gz' | 16:31 |
| litb | that's not at all what the archiver-output names look like, i'm afraid | 16:31 |
| rburton | if you want to host a source mirror then just share your DL_DIR | 16:31 |
| rburton | if you want it to include *just* what is needed then that's simple enough: new config, populated DL_DIR as premirror, bitbake world -c fetch. | 16:32 |
| litb | rburton, hm, we are in the impression that for GPL and LGPL compliance, we need to provide the source-code of the used libs, so that the user can rebuild them. | 16:33 |
| rburton | sure, and the tarball+patches is absolutely acceptable for tha | 16:33 |
| litb | therefore, since archiver is for gpl compliance, we thought that it provides us with that functionality :/ | 16:33 |
| litb | rburton, hm, but for that, it needs the buildsystem aswell, and a way to inject that code so that the buildsystem uses it | 16:34 |
| litb | I thought that this is the purpose of PREMIRRORS or DL_DIR | 16:34 |
| rburton | now you're entering 'speak to your lawyer' territory. releasing the layer would be an interesting interpretation. | 16:34 |
| rburton | PREMIRRORS is just a mirror that is used first. DL_DIR is the local cache. | 16:35 |
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| litb | hm, I think that then we may be better of tarballing our DL_DIR (and enabling mirror-tarballing of git), and not using archiver, and releasing our bsp and os layer | 16:36 |
| rburton | if you want to include build instructions then just push the layer, and use archiver to expose the tarballs. the layer will refer to the upstream SRC_URIs and contain the patches, right? archiver is needed to satisfy the terms but can otherwise be ignored. | 16:36 |
| rburton | people who just want to satisfy gpl and that's it just use archiver to get the tarballs/patches for all the GPL pieces | 16:36 |
| litb | the archiver then seems to be of not much use for us, since the above things will do all it does aswell, and more | 16:36 |
| rburton | not sure why you think premirrors/git-tarballs is needed for gpl | 16:37 |
| rburton | unless you're hosting a source mirror for kindness | 16:37 |
| rburton | which is fair as that's what http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/ is | 16:38 |
| litb | rburton, colleagues read the GPL. I can speak for the LGPL only now. the LGPL requires that if you distribute binaries, you also need to distribute the sources, and build scripts and any patches you used | 16:38 |
| rburton | arguably the build scripts are in the tarball: makefile etc | 16:39 |
| litb | so if you just distribute the sources and patches, it's not enough because users can't build the software with them. they need the layers aswell, and a way to tell the layers to use those sources | 16:39 |
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| rburton | but as i said, if you want to include the layer in that definition then push the layer to git | 16:40 |
| litb | rburton, thanks. i think that's what we should do. the archiver would still be usedful because it will contain all licenses and all copyrights. we must distribute those alongside our binaries | 16:41 |
| rburton | right | 16:41 |
| litb | and for people to be able to rebuild from source, we don't need to distribute all the build-dependencies alongside. so for that, we can on-demand distribute the DL_DIR (stripped of proprietary things) | 16:42 |
| rburton | why isn't the archiver enough for that? | 16:42 |
| rburton | at no point does the *gpl say that the source provided has to be the same one that is built. archiver+layer is sources+build instructions | 16:43 |
| litb | it says that the complete and corresponding sources need to be provided. which according to colleagues and books they read means that it must be the same source | 16:44 |
| litb | including any patches applied in them | 16:45 |
| litb | and the build scripts. but not necessarily toolchains or common system libraries | 16:45 |
| rburton | i disagre, but fine. ship a DL_DIR: the little trick above will make a fresh one with only what you needed. | 16:46 |
| litb | thanks | 16:49 |
| litb | weird that deploy/licenses/ + deploy/sources/ output is around 1.3GB but build/downloads/ is 12GB. that's very unexpected | 16:50 |
| litb | it's probably the toolchain that takes all that. | 16:50 |
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| rewitt | can it be assumed that the latest version of bitbake will work with metadata that was built using an older version of bitbake? | 17:57 |
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| rburton | rewitt: i wouldn't want to bet on it | 18:17 |
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| rewitt | rburton: That's what I thought, I'm trying to figure out all the reasons to say why I won't put bitbake in the container images https://github.com/crops/poky-container/issues/36 | 18:18 |
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| rburton | rewitt: as reasons go, the total lack of api stability is a pretty good one | 18:39 |
| rburton | rewitt: close it :) | 18:40 |
| rewitt | rburton: Thanks. That was my first reason, but I did add another reason because a new user isn't going to understand they are essentially asking "Why isn't there a bitbake package?" | 18:40 |
| rburton | that reminds me! kergoth can you remove bitbake from pip please :) | 18:41 |
| rburton | kergoth: https://pypi.org/project/bitbake/ | 18:41 |
| rburton | oh maintainer zecke, misread the author bit | 18:41 |
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| halstead | RP, AB changes are ready for testing. Anything to queue? | 19:02 |
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| fray | lol | 19:13 |
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| fray | \o/ | 19:23 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How should incrementing a package revision be handled when adding/editing a .bbappend file? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56709810/how-should-incrementing-a-package-revision-be-handled-when-adding-editing-a-bba> | 20:34 |
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| RP | welcome back darknighte! :) | 21:47 |
| RP | halstead: build is away | 21:47 |
| darknighte | RP: thx! | 21:55 |
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| halstead | Thank you RP. I'll check in on it in a few hours. | 22:22 |
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