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jschneider | Hi - yocto/bitbake question: is there a configswitch (or similar) that controls the output format of the yocto-sdk? or is there only the self-extracting shar? | 04:28 |
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jschneider | (looking for a way to generate a .deb instead) | 04:29 |
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khem | jschneider: we only self extracting shar | 04:56 |
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Chrusel | Good Yocto community! | 05:31 |
Chrusel | Are other software archaeologists who have to use (-.-) clearcase fetcher ccrc out there? | 05:33 |
Chrusel | The fetcher, (as it is in warrior/master), does not work properly - I will provide a fix/change soon and post it to the bitbake mailing list. It would be smart to double check the change with another ClearCase setup. Damn, ClearCase is a load of crap ... -.- | 05:38 |
LetoThe2nd | Chrusel: I haven't noticed any issues or patches there lately. So sure go ahead, patches welcome. | 05:43 |
jschneider | @khem: ah, ok - thanks! | 05:49 |
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bentech | Hi, is this correct? The name of the layer e.g. ‘meta-mylayer’ doesn’t have any affect on file priority (which file ends up on the image) but the folder underneath does e.g. ‘recipes-core’ but the folder under that also doesn’t e.g. ‘base-files’? | 07:47 |
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LetoThe2nd | bentech: yeah, the name is totally irrelevant. | 07:49 |
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qschulz | Hi all, I'm debugging a size related issue. We're upgrading from krogoth to thud with very few changes in our layers (mostly fixing the build) so aside from build fixes, recipes are identical. | 08:01 |
qschulz | The cpio image more than doubled (66M to 140M) and from the list of installed packages I can see a non-negligeable increase in number of python3 packages installed in the image | 08:02 |
qschulz | But I'm quite lost on where to start, since it appears to be using this python3-manifest.json thing for dependencies. | 08:03 |
qschulz | Does anyone have any hint on where to start? | 08:03 |
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mcfrisk | qschulz: do a buildhistory diff before and after the update. may be as simple as openssl 1.1.x depending on perl... | 08:52 |
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qschulz | I find the recipe-depends.dot almost impossible to use, especially after creating an svg out of it | 08:55 |
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qschulz | python3-core is also 14 times bigger in thud and I've got a cpp package (coming from gcc AFAICT) taking 18Mo | 08:56 |
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qschulz | 10:30 pike| c'est un simple spam sur une mailing ou je suis | 11:00 |
qschulz | ah... well :D | 11:00 |
qschulz | http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/commit/meta-python/recipes-devtools/python?id=befa59e6de53ac72ebf5876156eb9192598967c8 | 11:00 |
qschulz | This saved me 50MB on the additional 80MB I have | 11:01 |
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* alessioigor waves all | 12:07 | |
alessioigor | Is there a way to override or extend create_merged_usr_symlinks_rootfs() in meta/classes/image.bbclass whitout change the latter? | 12:08 |
alessioigor | Thanks! | 12:08 |
yocti | New news from stackoverflow: "audit" doesn't get included in Yocto final image <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57325836/audit-doesnt-get-included-in-yocto-final-image> | 12:10 |
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tgoodwin | RP: Is there anything different about the environment of the build worker? I have a rootfs postprocess command that is failing only at the worker; I can't reproduce it at my desk or when I manually run it at the worker. It's a "find" call, like: "find dir/{a,b} ...". | 12:16 |
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RP | tgoodwin: there shouldn't be | 12:31 |
tgoodwin | The behavior is as if it's running in sh instead of bash. | 12:31 |
RP | tgoodwin: we do use /bin/sh and scripts are meant to be sh safe | 12:32 |
tgoodwin | Good to know. It's funny I've never seen this fail before. | 12:34 |
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RP | tgoodwin: different /bin/sh link desktop to worker? | 12:35 |
tgoodwin | Yep... that was it. Ubuntu 18.04 server has it linked to dash vs. desktop is linked to bash. | 12:37 |
tgoodwin | Thanks | 12:37 |
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kanavin | rburton, right it's a bit of a mess. I'd say we should standardize on virtio (you do *not* need working virgl to have it). | 12:42 |
kanavin | basically because that is the future, and is also where everyone else is heading :) | 12:42 |
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RP | kanavin: virtio has always made a lot of sense for the qemu machines | 12:46 |
RP | just didn't exist when we set out | 12:46 |
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kanavin | RP: there's talk about convincing SoC vendors to support virtio in their hypervisors, so that the guest Linux doesn't need SoC specific drivers at all | 12:47 |
kanavin | I personally can't see the likes of nvidia doing that, but who knows :) | 12:48 |
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kanavin | both because it surely affects gpu performance, and reduces the level of lock-in from the hardware vendor | 12:48 |
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RP | kanavin: that is an interesting one :) | 12:49 |
kanavin | RP: in the cloud it has already happened more or less | 12:50 |
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tgoodwin | RP: have you ever seen "chown failed -- inappropriate ioctl for device" when running populate_sdk? That's another one I cannot seem to reproduce at my desk. | 13:13 |
RP | tgoodwin: no | 13:14 |
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tgoodwin | RP: also getting "python callback ??? failed, aborting" with populate_sdks. | 13:41 |
RP | tgoodwin: That doesn't sound familiar | 13:45 |
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tgoodwin | RP: I'm at a loss for this one. I thought it might be the lack of a shell for the build user, so I set it to /bin/bash, logged in as the user and ran bitbake. The populate_sdk task works fine. | 14:35 |
tgoodwin | I let buildbot re-run the task and it fails. | 14:36 |
RP | tgoodwin: can you pastebin the actual error. Context may help me | 14:40 |
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tgoodwin | RP: I was inheriting rm_work. Once I removed that, populate_sdk worked. | 15:23 |
RP | tgoodwin: that is interesting. I wonder why that was breaking things? :/ | 15:25 |
tgoodwin | RP: Right. And exclusively when buildbot is running things. | 15:26 |
RP | tgoodwin: I'd love to understand how that happens | 15:26 |
tgoodwin | With rm_work enabled, I was noticing that there was no recipe-sysroot-native for the image, and the log for populate_sdk showed it was trying to run dnf from there. The log.task_order indicated rm_work had already run. | 15:27 |
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RP | tgoodwin: oh, that would indeed break it | 15:34 |
tgoodwin | RP: yeah it's like the one beat the other to the punch. Down in the populate_sdk log it showed an error when it tried to execute dnf, but the log continued for pages including a DNF version output like it got executed somehow. | 15:35 |
tgoodwin | weird stuff | 15:36 |
RP | tgoodwin: its because populate_sdk is a leaf task, it isn't a dependency of do_build | 15:37 |
RP | tgoodwin: rm_work adds itself before do_build | 15:37 |
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kanavin | RP: congrats on getting the hash euqivalency work done! | 16:08 |
RP | kanavin: thanks :) Its a start, not sure its "done" yet! | 16:10 |
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kanavin | RP: it's a bit ironic that I am reluctant to advocate this feature here, because we are trying to convince management to buy even more powerful workstations and build servers for yocto work. | 16:12 |
kanavin | saying that 'yocto will get faster' is a bit counter to that :D | 16:12 |
RP | kanavin: I can see the dilemma :) | 16:13 |
RP | kanavin: Reality is it will help for some things, not others | 16:14 |
kanavin | RP: also I got a ticket for ELC-E, not sure if you or others are coming, but just fyi | 16:15 |
kanavin | this year I should be in good health to finally make it there | 16:15 |
kanavin | there are direct flights Berlin-Lyon too apparently, which is nice | 16:16 |
RP | kanavin: I'm intending to go and have budget approval for that one. Not sure I can get direct flights but will figure it out | 16:18 |
Crofton|work | Plane to Paris, train to Lyon | 16:19 |
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RP | Crofton|work: maybe, may be easier to fly via AMS | 16:22 |
tgoodwin | RP: cool, thanks | 16:23 |
Crofton|work | sure, but for me, this is the way to go | 16:24 |
kanavin | I would take a train any time over flying | 16:26 |
kanavin | TGV is nice :) | 16:26 |
kanavin | and there is a station directly in Paris CDG airport | 16:26 |
kanavin | travel time is 2 hours apparently | 16:27 |
Crofton|work | but not frequent service to Lyon. Might spend a night or two in Paris and inspect beer places | 16:28 |
RP | kanavin: I tried trains to get to Grenoble for an ELC-E once. It didn't work out so well | 16:31 |
Crofton|work | rp has a cloud that follows him around | 16:33 |
Crofton|work | tools-sdk doesn't include gdb ..... | 16:34 |
RP | Crofton|work: nah, was just unfortunate last time... | 16:39 |
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seebs | okay so in the patch to fix yesterday's pseudo patch | 17:39 |
seebs | you will notice that i am replacing "flags|O_NOFOLLOW" with "flags&O_NOFOLLOW" as a test for "whether O_NOFOLLOW is present in flags" | 17:39 |
seebs | i just want to state for the record that i'm actually sort of proud of managing to do something that insanely stupid, and especially of the fact that it *actually passed any tests at all*. | 17:40 |
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Crofton|work | nice work seebs | 18:02 |
kergoth | ha, i'm always amazed by the stupid mistakes i make at times, usually something miniscule like that with large effects. single character makes a lot of difference.. | 18:07 |
aehs29 | rburton: yeah removing qemu user mode didnt improve things for me | 18:15 |
aehs29 | rburton: I had already disabled gobject introspection which is the only thing that it dit | 18:15 |
aehs29 | but stuff like chromium is wired in to execute qemu as well, and apparently the v8 engine in it requires to run code on QEMU, and AFAIC I cant disable it the same way | 18:16 |
aehs29 | I probably will just have to wait for skylake-client/avx support on qemu upstream | 18:17 |
aehs29 | Crofton|work: I'd be interested in ispecting beer places in Paris as well | 18:18 |
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Crofton|work | the beer scene isn't grim | 18:19 |
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jwessel | seebs: It goes to show you also how much of a corner case it was. There were not actually that many failures. It did expose something in the OE QA that isn't supposed to be happening. | 19:08 |
jwessel | fray was separately send out some patches for that problem. | 19:09 |
jwessel | This time around all the regression testing is green so far. | 19:09 |
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rburton | kanavin: the problem with virtio (and why i said standardize on std first) is that virtio-gpu is only enabled in qemu for x86 and one other arch that i can't remember, so we're going to be hitting a lot of codepaths that have never been tested before | 21:02 |
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