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| LetoThe2nd | behanw: ping concerning streams | 07:12 |
| jmiehe | g'morning! What exactly is the difference between "package" and "recipe" in yocto? (How) can one define multiple packages in a single recipe? | 07:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | jmiehe: a single recipe can (and in most cases does) produce a multitude of (hopefully related) packages. | 07:14 |
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| wooosaiii | hi guys... I have a yocto build. I tried to build the sdk & esdk... well they didn't build without some changes in poky/classes/populate_sdk_ext.bbclass | 07:48 |
| wooosaiii | I found patches online | 07:49 |
| wooosaiii | but I don't want to update the poky layer at the moment | 07:49 |
| wooosaiii | can I somehow patch poky from my custom meta-mylayer? | 07:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | wooosaiii: depends on the form of the "paches" | 07:50 |
| wooosaiii | https://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/155533/ | 07:51 |
| wooosaiii | this one for example | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | nope, you can't apply this from another layer | 07:51 |
| wooosaiii | bummer :D | 07:51 |
| wooosaiii | is there any good practice on such case? | 07:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | wooosaiii: updating poky :) | 07:52 |
| wooosaiii | heheh :D | 07:52 |
| wooosaiii | ok | 07:52 |
| wooosaiii | LetoThe2nd: what about this technique? | 07:54 |
| wooosaiii | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51002891/overwriting-yocto-classes-through-meta-layer | 07:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | wooosaiii: it works, but is highly fragile. and will lead to hard-to-trace errors when somebody tries to reproduce your build. hence, i discourage it. | 07:55 |
| wooosaiii | LetoThe2nd: I agree... that this is somehow bad approach... | 07:56 |
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| jmiehe | can I enforce a specific version for IMAGE_INSTALL? or for `bitbake <package>`? | 09:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | jmiehe: you can, given the prerequisite that a recipe providing the desired version exists. | 09:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | jmiehe: in that case, PREFERRED_VERSION (as to be found in the manual) | 09:20 |
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| litb | hello folks | 09:46 |
| litb | the qt5 recipes install the qmake, moc etc native tools to recipe-sysroot-native . is this the correct way? must recipe-sysroot/usr/bin not contain binaries that are used at build time only? | 09:47 |
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| litb | it complicates our make scripts, because we use the QT5PATH variable for both the target-library .so files and headers in recipe-sysroot, and for the builtime-native binaries like qmake and moc | 09:48 |
| litb | nor we require a QT5TOOLSPATH or something for the latter | 09:48 |
| RP | litb: recipe-sysroot only contains target libs/binaries | 09:49 |
| RP | litb: in the general case you can't run target binaries, only native ones | 09:50 |
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| BCMM | litb: having build tools and runtime libraries in different trees is generally going to be a thing with any sane cross-compiling setup, not just with yocto | 10:15 |
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| litb | BCMM, hm, i see | 10:27 |
| litb | BCMM, I guess this is the reason why some packages need to be compiled for the build host, when cross compiling | 10:27 |
| BCMM | assumptions that make perfect sense for native builds but come back and bite you when cross compiling are pretty common in build systems; and this might be one of them | 10:27 |
| litb | to get native binaries for the "foo-config" thingies | 10:28 |
| BCMM | (actually even assumptions that don't make sense when you're packaging are fairly common) | 10:28 |
| litb | but, I don't understand it completely. the Qt .pc files that are compiled for the build host still need to report paths of the compilation that was done for the target | 10:29 |
| litb | when those two compilations are completely separate, I can't imagine how this works. so, I think this needs some support from the configure/makefiles in order to get a working result? | 10:29 |
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| PinkSnake | Hello all, someone here could give me some advice to fix this kind of issue (https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-xilinx/2018-December/004127.html) witch meta-xilinx 2019.1 revision ? I have propably missed something but i don't know what :S | 10:46 |
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| Crofton|work | did you try adding the line manju mentioned to your local.conf and see if it helped? | 10:50 |
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| wooosaiii | I have built extensible SDK... now I have installed it and tried to run devtool --help | 12:13 |
| wooosaiii | it fails with No such file or directory | 12:13 |
| wooosaiii | after investigating a bit further | 12:14 |
| wooosaiii | I have checked with "which devtool" where it is located | 12:14 |
| wooosaiii | and inspected the python file with vi | 12:14 |
| wooosaiii | i changed "#!/usr/bin/env python3" to "#!/usr/bin/python3" | 12:15 |
| wooosaiii | and then I can run devtool --help.... | 12:15 |
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| wooosaiii | is this known bug or? | 12:15 |
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| georgem | wooosaiii: what distro are you running? | 12:16 |
| georgem | wooosaiii: that should work fine on most | 12:16 |
| wooosaiii | Ubuntu 18 | 12:17 |
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| wooosaiii | but I have tried the same with extensible container | 12:17 |
| wooosaiii | which is Ubuntu 16 | 12:17 |
| wooosaiii | same error | 12:17 |
| georgem | You don't get a python prompt if you do this from the command line? /usr/bin/env python3 | 12:18 |
| georgem | I do on Arch Linux and Debian. | 12:19 |
| wooosaiii | I do get it... | 12:19 |
| wooosaiii | this is really strange error | 12:19 |
| georgem | yeah. bizarre | 12:19 |
| georgem | If you just make a script with: | 12:21 |
| georgem | #!/usr/bin/env python3 | 12:21 |
| georgem | print("test") | 12:21 |
| PinkSnake | Crofton|work Yep but didn't help :S | 12:21 |
| PinkSnake | it doesn't work out of the box ? same issue with 2018.3 | 12:21 |
| PinkSnake | so it's probably in my configuration | 12:21 |
| georgem | wooosaiii: then chmod 755 script.py; ./script.py does it work? | 12:21 |
| wooosaiii | ammm | 12:22 |
| wooosaiii | but does yocto run my machine native python3 or the one from $OECORE_NATIVE_SYSROOT | 12:22 |
| wooosaiii | ? | 12:22 |
| georgem | depends :) | 12:23 |
| georgem | devtool should run with the python from the machine | 12:23 |
| georgem | IFAIK | 12:23 |
| Crofton|work | PinkSnake, email the meta-xilinx list with details | 12:27 |
| PinkSnake | Crofton|work ok thx ;) | 12:28 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya, that is unsuprising. I suspect we'll need a more "industrial strength" server to handle that | 13:20 |
| RP | JPEW: you'd kind of have hoped it would have been simple enough to work even for this though :/ | 13:26 |
| JPEW | RP: Do you happen to know where the bottleneck is? | 13:31 |
| BobPungartnik | Hello people | 13:34 |
| BobPungartnik | I'm trying to do some changes at the kernel bbclass file. | 13:34 |
| BobPungartnik | So far I already have my own layer where I'm placing all the changes for the board where I'm working(bb and bbappend files). | 13:34 |
| BobPungartnik | I thought that for the bbclass I should proceed on the sme way, but, when I do bitbake my image, it don't use my bbclass file. | 13:34 |
| BobPungartnik | Is that the rigth way to do that? | 13:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | BobPungartnik: bbclasses cannot be appended, and usually should be version independent. its rather uncommon that you need to touch them for kernel development | 13:36 |
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| BobPungartnik | it's mainly cosmetic, for this board, they want build user, build host, and some other items set for the company reference. | 13:45 |
| BobPungartnik | my idea was to place all in one layer for this board. | 13:45 |
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| litb | is it possible that I can tell bitbake that all DEPENDS and all RDEPENDS of a layer's recipes must be whitelisted somewhere? | 13:49 |
| litb | I want to prevent that our proprietary layer depends on opensource software without having whitelisted them somewhere | 13:49 |
| alessioigor | Have I to create an user to submit a layer to layers.openembedded.org? | 13:51 |
| Crofton|work | probably | 13:52 |
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| RP | JPEW: I'm not sure. | 13:55 |
| * RP can't reproduce a hash equiv build failure from the autobuilder :( | 14:04 | |
| RP | JPEW: an interesting dilemma. bitbake starts, sees valid sstate and tuns those tasks. Other tasks are run, equiv is noticed, the sstate hashes of the tasks which it already pulled from sstate change. What should it do? | 14:20 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya... the hash equiv database is currently a little more tightly coupled to the sstate cache contents that would be ideal. | 14:22 |
| JPEW | One option would be to have the server return a list of compatible hashes instead of a single one and bitbake can decide then see the current hash is already valid and do nothing | 14:23 |
| JPEW | Argh, typing is hard. Need more coffee | 14:23 |
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| RP | JPEW: can we assume that since it already had one, that one is still valid? | 14:24 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya that's also what I was thinking.... only allow setsecene to be run once for any given task | 14:25 |
| RP | or might that not be true. I can't quite decide | 14:25 |
| RP | JPEW: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/49/builds/907/steps/8/logs/step1b makes interesting reading for the number of times packagegroup-core-lsb reruns | 14:27 |
| RP | or it thinks about it anyway | 14:27 |
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| armpit | YP bug triage started | 14:34 |
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| JPEW | RP: I suppose I would expect the packagegroup to be updated frequently... each time a dependent package's unihash changed. | 15:33 |
| litb | hmm... trying to run toaster in analysis mode with a python venv | 15:33 |
| JPEW | Ideally it wouldn't be actually run several times though | 15:33 |
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| RP | JPEW: the question is whether its ok after any sstate runs? | 15:34 |
| litb | but when I run toaster with the venv, and in the other terminal start a bitbake build, and then go to http://localhost:8000/toastergui/landing/ , it just says "This is toaster", and doesn't show anything about the build | 15:34 |
| litb | what am I doing wrong? | 15:34 |
| litb | do I have to run bitbake in the same shell that i ran "source toaster start" with? i'm unsure how to do that, because the venv is setup there, and I can't have it active when I run bitbake, I think | 15:35 |
| JPEW | RP: What if setscene tasks also reported to the hash server and updated unihash? | 15:46 |
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| JPEW | That would unify the hashes even for the case where an sstate object hadn't been seen before.... I suppose the weird part there is what do you do with the sstate file.... rename it? | 15:47 |
| litb | one question: the sstate cache only caches packages, I'm told | 15:56 |
| litb | are .o files also cached and reused? | 15:56 |
| litb | there doesn't seem to be a ccache used | 15:57 |
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| JPEW | litb: It caches more than packages, but in general I don't think .o files would be cached.... More accurately, sstate caches the output from specific tasks | 15:57 |
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| kergoth | hmm, would be nice if the layer index supported search result sorting. sort machines by layer name, or last update, or whatever.. or at the least be able to easily view the latest added layers, to see what's shown up since you were there last | 16:54 |
| kergoth | ah, can examine the change history. a bit verbose, but it's something | 16:54 |
| RP | JPEW: right, I'm not sure :/ | 16:55 |
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| RP | JPEW: I just had a look at netstat on the machine running hashserv. 16,000 connections open | 22:08 |
| RP | JPEW: its handling about 300 queries a second and held about 16,000 open for around 6 minutes | 22:11 |
| RP | although I guess I can't tell how many were timeouts and how many were handled | 22:13 |
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| RP | hmm, major bug in the new runqueue code :/ | 23:16 |
| * RP sleeps on it | 23:16 | |
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