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| aehs29 | Im trying to get travis to build automatically through github integration, but I (obviously) hit the 50 minute time limit (free travis), does anyone know if theres a better solution? | 00:28 |
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| aehs29 | trying to avoid using some s3 workaround to get the sstate | 00:29 |
| rburton | run your own worker and persist the sstate | 00:29 |
| rburton | s3 can be too slow (and expensive) to persist sstate on | 00:29 |
| rburton | you can try using the sstate on yoctoproject.org but obviously you need to pin to the release and use poky etc | 00:30 |
| rburton | but the real solution is your own hardware, the runner on it, and a persistant sstate | 00:30 |
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| rburton | (your own hw could obviously be on aws or whatever, you just need persistant local storage) | 00:31 |
| rburton | oh and github actions are much nicer than travis :) | 00:32 |
| rburton | ah but actions don't do self-hosted yet so ignore me | 00:33 |
| rburton | half one, definitely time for bed | 00:33 |
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| rburton | 'gnight | 00:33 |
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| Crofton | good night john boy | 00:34 |
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| neverpanic | aehs29: other services give you longer build times in the free tier, github actions or azure pipelines, for example. | 00:48 |
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| mischief | is it canonical for recipes to use tabs or spaces? | 03:30 |
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| erbo | mischief: Go with spaces. Some parts like python functions must use four spaces, and then it's simpler to just do that in all of the recipe. OE-core uses tabs in shell functions, but if you're starting a new layer I see no point in mixing. | 04:09 |
| mischief | okay. i ask because i think i have a bitbake syntax plugin for vim which i believe is 4 spaces, but my coworker seems to have used tabs in something he wrote :( | 04:11 |
| kergoth | see also https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Styleguide | 04:14 |
| erbo | I guess that happens. I'd just bring it up for discussion so you can decide what to use | 04:14 |
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| erbo | The worst things are when people start doing style related changes without first having some kind of common guidelines. It's like a bad race condition :-) | 04:16 |
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| aehs29 | rburton: gnight | 04:23 |
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| aehs29 | rburton: I already tried reusing the sstate from yoctoproject.org but my stuff doesnt get automatically built so it doesnt exist | 04:23 |
| aehs29 | neverpanic: I'll give that a try | 04:23 |
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| mischief | erbo: we're just getting started and i've been doing most of the development.. still hardly have any idea what i'm doing, but i have a working image on our hardware ;) | 05:55 |
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| ThomasD13 | I am wondering about the KERNEL_FEATURES variable. I know it should enable specific kernel options. And it reference a .scc file. But I can't find that file. Neither in the layer-directory nor in the build directory. | 06:30 |
| ThomasD13 | I would like to know how a scc file looks, compared to a kernel configuration fragment file | 06:31 |
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| iceaway | I am on Yocto Sumo, and need to bring in some recipe changes (bug fixes) from newer versions. I don't suppose you can patch a recipe file from a .bbappend? | 07:43 |
| erbo | iceaway: you can override a lot of stuff using a bbappend. But depending on how the original recipe looks, and what you need to change, it might be tricky to fix stuff in a bbappend. | 07:47 |
| erbo | If it gets too messy, you can always put the newer version of the recipe in your own layer. | 07:49 |
| iceaway | erbo: thanks, might just do that! | 07:49 |
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| ThomasD13 | How does oe.utils.conditional work? Where is it defined? | 08:57 |
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| PinkSnake | FILESEXTRAPATHS is working inside a recipe .bb to override git source ? | 09:19 |
| kroon | PinkSnake, if i understand correctly, not really: it changes where the local file fetcher searches for files | 09:34 |
| qschulz | PinkSnake: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-FILESEXTRAPATHS | 09:37 |
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| PinkSnake | kroon qschulz Thx guys! | 09:38 |
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| qschulz | only for local files. It adds paths where the fetcher will look for local files. You can check which paths and in which order they are traversed with bitbake -e if you want and check FILEPATHS | 09:41 |
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| kanavin_ | rburton, git log says:Add 0001-mesonbuild-environment.py-check-environment-for-vari.patch | 09:55 |
| kanavin_ | as particularly we set windows resource compiler through an | 09:55 |
| kanavin_ | environment variable WINDRES. This has replaced the | 09:55 |
| kanavin_ | 0001-modules-windows-split-WINDRES-env-variable.patch as the code | 09:55 |
| kanavin_ | has been refactored. | 09:55 |
| rburton | hm shoudl have thought of that ;) | 09:55 |
| rburton | so why isn't it upstreamed :) | 09:56 |
| rburton | the is_cross patch is broken sadly | 09:56 |
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| kanavin_ | rburton, yeah, but I wonder why it believes the exe wrapper is needed on target | 10:04 |
| rburton | because the machineinfo that early in the build is 'linux none none' | 10:05 |
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| rburton | the fix is actually quite simple, just need to write a test to demonstrate it for upstream | 10:05 |
| kanavin_ | rburton, right, so do I need to do anything? | 10:05 |
| rburton | nope | 10:05 |
| kanavin_ | cheers :) | 10:06 |
| rburton | well working out how to upstream the windres thing would be good ;) | 10:06 |
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| filt3r | hi, is it (still) possible/allowed to share sstate-cache between simultaneous running builds? (i found an mailing list entry form 2016 where it looks like it should be fine) | 11:22 |
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| pepone | Hi, I building a package that requires python3-config at build time, how can I get this installed in the recipe sysroot? | 11:33 |
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| erbo | filt3r: I doubt that has changed, but hopefully someone involved in those parts confirm :) | 11:34 |
| kanavin_ | filt3r, yes it is | 11:44 |
| filt3r | thank you very much for the confirmation | 11:45 |
| kanavin_ | filt3r, what you cannnot do is remove items from the cache while a build is running (bitbake -c cleansstate, or directly) | 11:45 |
| filt3r | ok, ye, that makes sense | 11:45 |
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| Klanticus | hey guys, I'm trying to build a cmake based recipe that uses llvm on yocto, but I couldn't make it find the llvm cmake files. Do you know the proper way to import llvm on a cmake project? | 11:55 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to import LLVM on a cmake based bitbake recipe? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58236490/how-to-import-llvm-on-a-cmake-based-bitbake-recipe> | 12:38 |
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| Klanticus | yocti: I posted that question :) , but got nothing yet | 12:47 |
| yocti | Klanticus: Error: "I" is not a valid command. | 12:47 |
| Klanticus | what? | 12:48 |
| smurray | Klanticus: yocti is just a bot that posts the stackoverflow questions here | 12:51 |
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| Klanticus | oh god | 12:51 |
| Klanticus | I feel ashamed now | 12:52 |
| smurray | Klanticus: no worries | 12:53 |
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| rburton | Klanticus: at least you didn't get into a fight with it | 13:02 |
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| Klanticus | rburton: yeah, otherwise I'd have left the channel by now, to never return ;) | 13:06 |
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| pepone | FILES_${PN}-dbg += "${PYTHON_SITEPACKAGES_DIR}/.debug" | 14:56 |
| pepone | Do I need that for recipes that build python C libraries? | 14:56 |
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| pepone | any idea about "nothing provides gdbserver needed by packagegroup-core-tools-debug-1.0-r3.all" | 15:15 |
| PinkSnake | pepone bitbake gdb -c cleanall and rebuild ? | 15:19 |
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| __angelo | hello, trying to build a sdk (bitbake image -c populate_sdk) but getting hecking target system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-myd-sdk-linux': machine `x86_64-myd-sdk' not recognized | 15:31 |
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| rburton | pepone: for any recent release you don't need to set FILES_PN-dbg at all | 15:36 |
| rburton | __angelo: maybe dont use a hyphen in your os name | 15:37 |
| rburton | if that fixes it we should make that error out at construction time | 15:37 |
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| __angelo | rburton, mmm i am in a schroot, | 15:42 |
| __angelo | BUILD_SYS = "x86_64-linux" | 15:42 |
| __angelo | NATIVELSBSTRING = "ubuntu-16.04" | 15:42 |
| rburton | i'm guessing myd-sdk is your name | 15:42 |
| __angelo | mm how can i check it ? | 15:43 |
| rburton | is it not the name of your distro? | 15:44 |
| __angelo | myd is the name | 15:44 |
| __angelo | distro name | 15:44 |
| pepone | PinkSnake: thanks that worked | 15:44 |
| __angelo | oh, i have set SDK_VENDOR = "-myd-sdk" | 15:45 |
| __angelo | changed to "-myd_sdk" and seems to work | 15:47 |
| rburton | ok i'll file a bug | 15:47 |
| __angelo | i probably copy and pasted that name/scheme, but is possible i changed and _ to a - becouse i like hypens | 15:48 |
| __angelo | rburton, a special thanks | 15:48 |
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| pepone | locale -a , alwasys returns "C, POSIX" | 16:10 |
| pepone | Why aren't other locales installed with core-image-minimal | 16:11 |
| pepone | Seems they were build in tmp/work/cortexa8hf-neon-poky-linux-gnueabi/glibc-locale/2.29-r0/image/usr/share/i18n/locales | 16:13 |
| pepone | But that is not in the rootfs of the image | 16:14 |
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| kergoth | it's called minimal for a reason. but adjust IMAGE_LINGUAS to control which are installed in any given image | 16:36 |
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| pepone | I have already set it | 16:42 |
| pepone | ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" | 16:42 |
| pepone | GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_US.UTF-8" | 16:42 |
| pepone | IMAGE_LINGUAS = "en-us" | 16:42 |
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| vixp | Hi all, I am experiencing a strange crash with a QT (5.9.7) application on my embedded platform built with yocto: "The Wayland connection experienced a fatal error (No child processes)". Can anyone shed some light on this, or point me in the right direction? | 17:38 |
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| kergoth | pepone: i wouldn't be at all surprised if minimal's .bb overrides that as a part of its goal. minimal. minimal is almost never the image you want | 17:43 |
| kergoth | might want to just create yourself a recipe at this point | 17:43 |
| kergoth | image, that is | 17:43 |
| pepone | kergoth: ok I will give it a try | 17:46 |
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| mranostay | kergoth: seen minimal images that are rather large :) | 18:03 |
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| marler899712 | we're running into problems with sstate cache and our mirror server. Does anyone know, should ever tgz file have a corresponding tgz.siginfo file? | 19:44 |
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| marler899712 | It looks like the answer might be yes | 20:33 |
| marler899712 | I think what happened is our build server failed while uploading it's sstate cache | 20:34 |
| marler899712 | so then there was a bunch of archive files with missing siginfo files which caused any builds using that server to fail | 20:34 |
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| marler899712 | I'm wondering if there is an upload mechanism that wouldn't leave the server in a bad state on failure to upload | 20:34 |
| marler899712 | if I upload the siginfo first and then the archive, does anyone know if that would work? | 20:35 |
| JPEW | marler899712: You need both, and we ran into the same problem. We fixed it by running a script that cleans out sstate removing files missing their match | 20:37 |
| marler899712 | So if you just have siginfo...will the build still fail? | 20:39 |
| marler899712 | I know if you just have the archive it will | 20:39 |
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| JPEW | marler899712: I don't remember off the top of my head, sorry... having the siginfo w/o the archive doesn't seem very useful anyway :) | 20:48 |
| marler899712 | yeah, I just want to know if there is a way to upload files without creating a race condition where the server temporarily has invalid files that will cause a build to fail | 20:49 |
| marler899712 | a better solution might to to patch oe-core to handle this case with a warning instead of an error | 20:49 |
| JPEW | marler899712: IIRC, it only looks for siginfo if the archive is found, but don't quote me on that | 20:50 |
| marler899712 | ok, well it's worth testing out | 20:50 |
| smurray | marler899712: if you have the space, rsync new version to a different directory, then mv it into place after a successful upload? | 20:52 |
| JPEW | smurray: I don't know if Crofton told you, but I borrowed part of your container presentation for a talk I gave at the platform security summit. It was very helpful :) | 20:55 |
| marler899712 | smurray: that is a pretty good idea | 20:55 |
| smurray | JPEW: heh, no, he didn't, but cool. I need to get back to runc tinkering one of these days, but I'm entering AGL crunch time for CES now | 20:56 |
| * smurray tries to forget he has an AGL blog post to write | 20:57 | |
| JPEW | The problem we have with rsync + sstate is multiple builds trying to upload at the same time... the sets of sstate intersect, so we need them all, but it causes issues where they overlap | 20:58 |
| JPEW | I'm not sure if the mv would help in that case :( | 20:58 |
| marler899712 | yeah I was thinking about solutions like copying the old contents into the new before doing a mv, but that doesn't handle multiple uploaders | 20:59 |
| marler899712 | you would need some sort of queue in that case | 20:59 |
| JPEW | marler899712: It's a harder problem than it first seems :) | 21:00 |
| marler899712 | yeah, if we fixed yocto to handle missing files then it wouldn't matter as much | 21:00 |
| smurray | perhaps need something like a WebDAV backend to plug into | 21:00 |
| smurray | or maybe the hash equiv server solves this, JPEW? | 21:00 |
| JPEW | no, hash equivalence doesn't protect you from missing siginfo | 21:01 |
| smurray | JPEW: the hash equivalence server is read only, ie multiple builds couldn't run against it and populate it at the same time? | 21:03 |
| JPEW | smurray: err, not sure what you mean :) multiple builds can report equivalent hashes. The HE server doesn't look at the sstate files at all, it just tracks hashes | 21:06 |
| kergoth | hash equiv just lets you use sstate with a different checksum than this task has, if we know it'll produce the same results. | 21:06 |
| smurray | right, okay, I'll shut up | 21:07 |
| smurray | ;) | 21:07 |
| JPEW | Anyway, there are probably a few ways of solving this. Someone should bring it up at the 3.1 planning meeting | 21:08 |
| JPEW | But, I have to take $CHILD to swim lessons now. TTYL | 21:09 |
| marler899712 | raise $CHILD | 21:09 |
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