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| xyzzy42 | What does one change to stop bitbake from auto-cleaning a package build directory when finished? I've searched for every instance of the work "clean" in the docs and can't find it. | 00:57 |
| khem | xyzzy42: do you have rm_work enabled | 01:09 |
| xyzzy42 | khem, yes thanks! I didn't know the name. I thought since the do_clean step deletes the work area, that the word "clean" would appear in the docs. | 01:18 |
| xyzzy42 | still doesn't work, after building everthing is still removed except the logs (which don't actually have logs of the build output). | 01:24 |
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| erbo | xyzzy42: Are you sure the recipe really got rebuilt after you removed rm_work? If you didn't "bitbake -c cleansstate <recipe>" it probably didn't rebuild, and therefore didn't leave anything in the workdir. | 05:07 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Why is this ptvsd package failing to compile? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60416188/why-is-this-ptvsd-package-failing-to-compile> | 07:28 |
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| ths1234 | Hi, | 08:08 |
| ths1234 | Can anybody help me? I use Yocto 3.0.1 and want to build a simple rootfs. I added a layer and the confg file looks like this: DEFAULTTUNE = "cortexa7t"require conf/machine/include/tune-cortexa7.incTARGET_FPU=""IMAGE_FSTYPES += "tar.bz2 ubi"EXTRA_IMAGECMD_jffs2 = "-lnp "MKUBIFS_ARGS = " -m 2048 -e 126976 -c 12000 "UBINIZE_ARGS = " -p 16KiB -m 2048 | 08:10 |
| ths1234 | -s 2048 "SERIAL_CONSOLE = "115200 ttyUSI0"PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libjpeg-native = "libjpeg-turbo-native"PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libjpeg = "libjpeg-turbo"make: *** .path/to/project/tmp/work-shared/ludwig-sdk/kernel-source: No such file or directory. Stop.ERROR: oe_runmake failed | 08:10 |
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| ths1234 | I always get an error, but I don't know why? | 08:11 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Difficult to build sw utilities on yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60559802/difficult-to-build-sw-utilities-on-yocto> | 08:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | ths1234: that looks weird, and not only from the formatting. | 08:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | ths1234: care to put the layer in a place that we can see? | 08:34 |
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| ths1234 | The layer is very simple. It only contains the standard layer.conf and the machine config file. I tried the machine config file with only one line: | 08:52 |
| ths1234 | DEFAULTTUNE = "cortexa7t"require conf/machine/include/tune-cortexa7.inc | 08:52 |
| ths1234 | I always get the same error: /kernel-source: No such file or directory. I do not understand why the kernel-recipes is executed (make-mod-scripts). Can I disable build kernel? | 08:53 |
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| PinkSnake | Hello guys, stupid question : I'm using an external meta-vendor but this meta is not compatible with zeus; what is the best way to fix that without edit any files in this meta ? Thx | 08:56 |
| kroon | If I introduce a new, yet unused distro feature "foo" in DISTRO_FEATURES, shouldn't that (in theory at least) result in no rebuilding ? | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | ths1234: you can. PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-dummy" | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | kroon: nope, it will result in rebuilding because bitbake dosn't know who actually uses what from DISTRO_FEATURES | 08:58 |
| kroon | LetoThe2nd, "bitbake doesn't know who uses what from DISTRO_FEATURES" ? | 09:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | kroon: thats at least my understanding. it can tell if a recipe looks at DISTRO_FEATURES for whatever reason, and hence "uses" it. it cannot tell in advance which parts of it are relevant. | 09:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | kroon: generally i think of DISTRO_FEATURES as kind of flag-array that can be used for arbitrary purposes. | 09:03 |
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| kroon | bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'foo', 'this', 'that'), the expression doesn't change if I introduce a new feature 'bar' | 09:04 |
| RP | kroon: it should, I suspect there is code which isn't quite right though | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | kroon: if you actually go through the function, then you are right. | 09:04 |
| RP | kroon: how much rebuilds? | 09:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: hehe. great minds think alike. | 09:05 |
| kroon | RP, mostly target recipes.. i'll see if I can investigate | 09:05 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: I wrote that code :) | 09:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: i know. | 09:05 |
| kroon | RP, definetley not all target recipes got rebuilt, so yeah maybe only some problematic ones that we can fix | 09:08 |
| RP | kroon: would be good to track them down, worth fixing if we can | 09:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: s/track/hunt/g (for the fun of it) | 09:10 |
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| qschulz | Why am I learning about nonarch_base_libdir just now /o\ | 09:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: /me is delaying that even a bit more | 09:26 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: we overrode base_libdir in firmware recipes until now /me facepalms | 09:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: ah. never run into that as we actually don't ship noarch code. | 09:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | if we wanted to, technically a webfrontend or such could be violently declared as such but as it is all so tightly coupled we just don't bother. | 09:30 |
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| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: it's more that base_libdir changes in case of multilib (/lib for 64b machines until lib32- is involved, in which case it's /lib64) IIRC | 09:33 |
| qschulz | And we unfortunately have such cases (and can't get rid of them, third party vendor......) | 09:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: i'll try and take a mental note for upcoming support cases :) | 09:33 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I like reading the ML, you learn so many things from it :) | 09:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: you do actually *READ* *THINGS*?!? | 09:38 |
| * LetoThe2nd goes into full fahrenheit 451 mode and burns the ML with a flamethrower. | 09:38 | |
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| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I'm able to read. What you write as well, unfortunately. | 09:41 |
| qschulz | :D | 09:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: i am in fact made up of 1725 monkeys randomly hammering their keyboards and an AI that selects the (usually) least offensive outcome of said keyboard-hammering. | 09:43 |
| * LetoThe2nd hereby puts this self-analysis into public domain. | 09:43 | |
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| qschulz | And I thought the 21 different personalities displayed in the movie Split were already a lot to handle. EVerything makes sense now :) | 09:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | see :) | 09:46 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: its quite good output from only 1725 :) | 09:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: we make sure to use only the best monkeys, of course. QA is very important! | 09:47 |
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| kroon | RP, my distro feature rebuild issue was a PEBKAC | 09:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | kroon: s/distro feature rebuild//g | 09:52 |
| kroon | RP, I used += instead of _append on DISTRO_FEATURES, which threw away default values | 09:52 |
| RP | kroon: ah, that would do it | 09:53 |
| kroon | LetoThe2nd, even more impressive with monkeys that know regexp | 09:59 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kroon: we've got ze best AI to choose from the mokeys output! | 10:00 |
| kroon | hehe | 10:01 |
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| LetoThe2nd | you wouldn't believe how incredibly the AI training was. all the usually available models are trained for shakespeare, fake news, and such. getting one for #yocto, thats a real challenge! | 10:04 |
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| panfir | I'm wondering if there is any fix/workaround for my sumo/multilib issue, read-only rootfs scenario: | 10:52 |
| panfir | MACHINE = "qemuarm64", IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " lib32-glib-2.0" and IMAGE_FEATURES = "read-only-rootfs" | 10:53 |
| panfir | ERROR: core-image-minimal-1.0-r0 do_rootfs: The following packages could not be configured offline and rootfs is read-only: ['100-lib32-libglib-2.0-0'] | 10:53 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: how to add full x11 support for imx6 board in yocto krogoth <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49398370/how-to-add-full-x11-support-for-imx6-board-in-yocto-krogoth> | 10:59 |
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| PinkSnake | Where is the best place to put some board configuration without edit conf/machine/machine.conf file ? =L | 13:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | PinkSnake: "depends" | 13:16 |
| PinkSnake | ;) | 13:16 |
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| PinkSnake | I continue with stupid questions : is it possible to edit LAYERSERIES_COMPAT_ from outside the layer ? | 13:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | no. | 13:25 |
| PinkSnake | :S ok thx. | 13:25 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: (yes :) ) | 13:28 |
| qschulz | The question is.... why? | 13:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: ? | 13:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: layer.conf is kind of pre-parsed to my understanding before anyting else happens. as far as i can tell there is no even remotely sane way to tinker with it. | 13:29 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I'm not saying it's sane :D | 13:30 |
| PinkSnake | In fact it's just because some meta are not set compatible with zeus :( | 13:31 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: from my experience. bblayers.conf works and in fact, any layer.conf of any layer in bblayers.conf is fine | 13:31 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: but, that's mainly an unwanted side effect and could disappear | 13:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | PinkSnake: fork and patch until they are. | 13:32 |
| qschulz | PinkSnake: add manually zeus to the layer LAYERSERIES_COMPAT_, build everything from that layer with all machines. If it works fine, send a PR to the meta | 13:32 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: damn it | 13:32 |
| qschulz | too fast too furious | 13:32 |
| PinkSnake | qschulz already done 1 month ago ^^ | 13:35 |
| qschulz | PinkSnake: the PR? | 13:37 |
| qschulz | why don't you take your git repo for it then? | 13:37 |
| PinkSnake | qschulz because it's done fome my personnal account and don't want to fork on compagny repo | 13:37 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: bblayers.conf is the first file parsed. Then layer.conf from layers in the order in which theya re declared in BBLAYERS. | 13:41 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: one could technically override the LAYERSERIES_COMPAT_ from another layer's layer.conf because it's handled after all layer.conf have been parsed. | 13:41 |
| qschulz | https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/bitbake/lib/bb/cookerdata.py#n397 | 13:41 |
| qschulz | while the parsing is done in: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/bitbake/lib/bb/cookerdata.py#n366 | 13:42 |
| qschulz | VERY bad IMO | 13:42 |
| qschulz | (to set LAYERSERIES_COMPAT_ elsewhere than the original layer) | 13:42 |
| qschulz | (we'll soon do it because we use meta-qt5 locked on pre-GPLv3 and I can't stand the warning message every time I call bibtake) | 13:43 |
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| smurray | I do this exact hack now to enable building the Alexa Auto SDK for AGL, Amazon only have rocko and thud in LAYERSERIES_COMPAT, so I append zeus on | 13:52 |
| qschulz | smurray: please send a PR to those projects to add zeus so that the hack is not needed :) | 13:53 |
| smurray | a small patch is required to their stuff, trying to get something worked out with them to get it upstream | 13:53 |
| qschulz | smurray: nice | 13:53 |
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| smurray | qschulz: bemusingly, their layer is on github, but it's effectively a code dump, they ignore PRs | 13:53 |
| smurray | qschulz: AGL is carrying some quite non-trivial bugfixes that I bbappend on, I've poked some of the Alexa folks to try and get it sorted | 13:55 |
| smurray | qschulz: their stuff is a good bad example, they mix the source code and layers in one git repo | 13:55 |
| qschulz | smurray: cough cough | 13:55 |
| smurray | heh | 13:56 |
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| qschulz | same here, once it's been done it's hard to convince people to make some efforts to do it the "good" way, because "it works" (TM) | 14:00 |
| emrius | Hey together, after I made some good progress in the last couple of days working my way through my first recipes, layers, images etc. I start to vaguely understand what I'm doing here '=D | 14:02 |
| emrius | But with every question crossed off my list there is usually at least twice that number of new questions and my list is getting longer and longer ... | 14:03 |
| emrius | What I wonder is if there is something like a yocto get together in northern germany or maybe Berlin where it would be possible to get in touch with you guys personally? Sometimes it's just so much more efficient to speak in person. Beer is on me ;) | 14:04 |
| emrius | I checked meetup.com but didn't find anything there | 14:05 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: FREE BEER ^ | 14:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | emrius: there is none as far as i know. set one up and have all the fame for the worlds first yocto meetup ALL FOR YOURSELF | 14:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | (i'll happily help promoting it, though) | 14:06 |
| emrius | :) just looking for answers not for fame | 14:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | emrius: i'll try and be helpful during the usual office times as well as sometimes also in the evening. :) | 14:08 |
| emrius | BUT if there is somebody here who is willing to present something on some occasion I would for sure take the effort to organize a small event | 14:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | emrius: make a tweet that we can relay, ask if there is interest. we'll make sure it gets some attention. | 14:09 |
| emrius | LetoThe2nd: I know, you helped me quite a lot already. | 14:09 |
| emrius | oh great! I'll do that over the weekend | 14:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | emrius: @TheYoctoJester, @yoctoproject, @OpenEmbeddedOrg :) | 14:11 |
| emrius | Thanks! | 14:11 |
| emrius | (Need to register on twitter first \O/ ) So don't be surprised if that comes from someone with no twitter-street-credibility ... | 14:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | Thats ok. If you have some other thing with "credibility", i can also do the tweet for you. | 14:13 |
| dl9pf | > git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/poky --depth=1 | 14:23 |
| dl9pf | Cloning into 'poky'... | 14:23 |
| dl9pf | fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer | 14:23 |
| smurray | seeing it here as well | 14:24 |
| qschulz | halstead: Hello, just FYI ^^^ git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/poky => fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer (same for https). | 14:25 |
| RP | hmm, existing clones seem to work, new ones do not | 14:28 |
| RP | autobuilder also sees it :( | 14:28 |
| shauno | looks like it's working again now? or I got lucky | 14:31 |
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| qschulz | halstead: it's back for me too. /me shrugs | 14:32 |
| dl9pf | no, still there | 14:33 |
| halstead | qschulz, There is some SYN flooding. I'm trying to fix it at the firewall. | 14:34 |
| qschulz | halstead: thanks for the prompt answer. Good luck! | 14:34 |
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| halstead | qschulz, dl9pf, smurray: Any change for you now? | 14:35 |
| smurray | halstead: working here now | 14:36 |
| qschulz | halstead: both git and https seem ok now | 14:36 |
| dl9pf | trying | 14:36 |
| dl9pf | Tnx! | 14:45 |
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| ssajal | i'm trying to uprev libvirt to v6.0.0, the do_configure fails saying "configure: error: "rst2html5/rst2html is required to build libvirt"", i find that rst2html is in python3-docutils, i add that to the DEPENDS variable in the libvirt recipe and i still get the error. is there something that i'm missing? | 15:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | ssajal: you probably need the -native incarnation of it, as it is most likely something that has to be run on the host, at build time. | 15:28 |
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| ssajal | LetoThe2nd: i tried pytho3-docutils-native as well, -native breaks the do_compile with "/bin/bash: access/viraccessapicheck[qemu/lxc].h/.c: No such file or directory" | 15:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | ssajal: then you are in for some fun. either finding a way to build without that thing, or finding a way to provide it for the host. | 15:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ssajal: generall this sound like it is only needed for building docs anyways, so that maybe can be disabled in the configuration stage | 15:40 |
| ssajal | LetoThe2nd: yes they are used for docs and man pages, i beleive. thanks for your suggestions!! | 15:40 |
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| ssajal | LetoThe2nd: removed libvirt-doc from the PACKAGES variable in an attempt to stop building the docs, still end up with the do_configure failure | 16:46 |
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| qschulz | ssajal: PACKAGES is not used until do_package or something. Definitely *after* do_configure | 16:49 |
| qschulz | and if what I'm saying isn't accurate, AFAIK PACKAGES has absolutely no impact on do_configure. PACKAGE_CONFIG, EXTRA_OEMAKE/EXTRA_OECONF etc... do. Maybe you need a patch to disable the docs building directly from the sources | 16:50 |
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| ssajal | qschulz: thank you for your input. I'm considering if not building docs as part of the package is a good idea or not, since users might want to have a look at them. | 17:02 |
| qschulz | ssajal: I'd say it's a good step to make it work without the docs if the docs are really an issue and then work on that part. | 17:03 |
| ssajal | qschulz: sounds like a plan, i'll follow your direction and see how far i go | 17:08 |
| qschulz | ssajal: good luck! | 17:10 |
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| roussinm | Would it make sense to create a new tune for specifically ivy bridge cpus? Because we need the avx instruction set and tune-corei7 doesn't provide it. | 18:00 |
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| sheelba | Is there any HOWTOs out there for developing recipes to apply PREEMPT_RT to an existing hardware-specific BSP? Digging into it, it just seems like a colossal task and I'm not clear on how to begin. I'm trying to do this on the Pine64 kernels (sopine-a64 specifically); the Raspberry Pi RT kernels just pull down a pre-patched git branch, but I don't have that for the pine64. :( | 19:54 |
| sheelba | I'm thinking I need to devtool the post-patched A64 virtual/kernel, then massage PREEMPT_RT into it. But getting from that into a .bb or .bbappend is not at all clear | 19:55 |
| sheelba | I'm hoping that this road has been traveled, but if not I'll keep my head down until I figure it out. | 19:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | sheelba: in a nutshell, its complicated. you're usually better off if you set up a tree specifically for this use case and just refer to it in a recipe, instead of carrying humongeous patches in the layers. | 19:58 |
| sheelba | I agree-- I started my own tree but that has its own level of ginormous complexity. But I've only been at Yocto for a few months. I'll keep at it until it clicks. | 19:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | sheelba: taking care of the kernel by itself really is the simplest way. the yocto integration boils down to a pretty standard linux-yocto-custom recipe then, which basically just carries your defconfig. | 20:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | sheelba: i think there are a lot of pointers in the kernel manual, as well as bits and pieces in one of the livecoding sessions. but of course it is and will always be more complicated than just packaging some userland thing. | 20:02 |
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| sheelba | OK, thanks! I'll steer in that direction. My goal is a true machine-independent RT-enabled yocto tree that I can use for any of this zoo of prototypes I've got, but that may be wishful thinking. *looks scornfully at the half-dozen yocto roots in my work directory* | 20:03 |
| sheelba | Yeah, I know I'm not doing it right. :) | 20:03 |
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| LetoThe2nd | at least given the current state of kernel code, "machine independent rt-enabled" is just not going to happen. | 20:04 |
| zeddii | out of curiosity, what kernel version are you using ? and are there a lot of non mainline pine64 patches ? | 20:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | for the closest thing that exists, look at https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto | 20:04 |
| LetoThe2nd | (which on the other hand is considerably more effort to maintain, though, than just a kernel repo + simple recipe) | 20:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: yeah, all the cool bits should be in anyways, right? | 20:05 |
| zeddii | yah, since if so, you can flip it around and just use one of the rt branches I always have in linux-yocto, and apply the BSP patches, instead of the other way around. But the kernel versions have to align, etc. | 20:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: good option indeed. | 20:06 |
| sheelba | meta-pine64 supports up to 5.5 actually, but I've been hammering on 5.3. For the RPi they don't seem to be able to get further than 4.19. | 20:07 |
| sheelba | The pine64 patches may be avoidable; one is for wireless but I'm wired (and eventually not network-enabled) so I still have some hope left for linux-yocto-rt. Just need to find a proper defconfig to move forward. | 20:09 |
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| sheelba | To be really perverse I could pull the RPi PREEMPT_RT git sources as the pre-patch target for the pine64 kernel recipe. But that way lies madness I'm sure. Best just make my own. | 20:11 |
| sheelba | zeddii: But yeah, good idea. I'll try it the other way | 20:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | sheelba: cue: https://youtu.be/Kvqr366Op3k | 20:12 |
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| sheelba | zeddii: "v5.4/standard/preempt-rt/base" Exactly what I was looking for. I think I have the way forward with that, thanks! | 20:38 |
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| xyzzy42 | I'm trying to get ssh host keys to persist across software updates (which reflash the rootfs). It looks like the poky script sshd_check_keys will generate the keys in SYSCONFDIR. However, it doesn't seem that opensshd cares one bit about that variable, and will always look in /etc/ssh unless its config file is edited. | 22:13 |
| xyzzy42 | It seems like setting SYSCONFDIR is quite useless. The key location needs to be in sshd_config. | 22:15 |
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| JPEW | xyzzy42: There is some support for alternate locations (although it might not be very good). Look at the read-only-rootfs IMAGE_FEATURE | 22:35 |
| JPEW | I believe that makes it look for the keys in /var/run/ssh/ (which, we redirect to non-temp storage with a volatiles file) | 22:36 |
| * RP watches buildtools tarball fall over with crypt.h issues. Looks like we need a new build from master | 22:37 | |
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| JPEW | Hmm, can I manually add a variable to the basehash? | 22:40 |
| RP | JPEW: vardeps ? | 22:42 |
| RP | JPEW: do_XXX[vardeps] += "YYY" ? | 22:42 |
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| JPEW | Not quite what I need. More specifically, I've append a new string to MACHINEOVERRIDES (I think appending makes it higher priority?), but it still seems to be pulling the old sstate object | 22:44 |
| JPEW | e.g. MACHINEOVERRIDES .= ":foo" should make "foo" more preferred than "${MACHINE}" ? | 22:45 |
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| RP | JPEW: I can never remember the ordering :/ | 22:51 |
| RP | JPEW: it should notice any values changing that would affect a given task | 22:51 |
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