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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Can't not build ixgbe of meta-intel <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60715382/cant-not-build-ixgbe-of-meta-intel> | 02:17 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to have more than one tty console in yocto? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60718045/how-to-have-more-than-one-tty-console-in-yocto> | 07:48 |
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| Dracos-Carazza | hi, i have a kernel config fragment (generated via menuconfig/diffconfig), which is copied to $WORKDIR but for some reason completely ignored afterwards during kernel compile | 09:03 |
| Dracos-Carazza | what could be the reason for such a behavior? | 09:03 |
| Dracos-Carazza | shouldn't resolve menuconfig/diffconfig all dependencies? | 09:04 |
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| qschulz | Dracos-Carazza: depends on the recipe handling your kernel fragment. If it does not inherit kernel-yocto (or yocto-kernel?) bbclass, if it's not manually implemented in your recipe, you don't have fragment support | 09:15 |
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| Dracos-Carazza | fragment support is activated | 09:16 |
| Dracos-Carazza | there are several fragments from different layers | 09:16 |
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| qschulz | Dracos-Carazza: 1) check there isn't already a fragment named like that somehwere else. 2) check it's correctly named (e.g. has the correct file extension or whatever is used to detect it's a config fragment) 3) check the different config fragments you have are not conflicting in some ways (though I think Yocto throws an error when that happens?) | 09:32 |
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| mauz555 | hi is there a way to SKIP a specific .bbappend for an image ? | 11:08 |
| rburton | for an image, no | 11:09 |
| qschulz | mauz555: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-BBMASK, yocto-wide unfortunately | 11:09 |
| rburton | images are build from packages whihc are built from recipes. bbappend changes a recipe but will impact the packages which are used in all images | 11:10 |
| qschulz | mauz555: but depending on what's inside the bbappend, you could actually override it in another bbappend? | 11:11 |
| mauz555 | im setting up a production image and development image derived from prod adding dev tools | 11:12 |
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| mauz555 | I bbappend systemd-network to automatically set up wlan connection for the dev image. but Id like to skip this .bbappend for the base (prod) image | 11:13 |
| rburton | have two recipes that ship different configuration | 11:14 |
| rburton | you can just ship the configuration fragments in their own recipe | 11:16 |
| rburton | no need to bbappend | 11:16 |
| mauz555 | I guess I'd better copy and rename the whole systemd-conf recipe from poky/meta to my own layer and make it one for prod and one for dev, so I could easily add them specifically per images | 11:16 |
| rburton | no need | 11:17 |
| rburton | the entire point of systemd configuration is that you can drop in fragments | 11:17 |
| mauz555 | rburton: what do you mean by "ship the configuration fragments" | 11:18 |
| erbo | mauz555: e.g. files under /etc/systemd/network/ | 11:19 |
| mauz555 | I shipped systemd-network files to my own layer, but i needed a systemd-conf_%.bbappend to "FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend" and "do_install_append" and "FILES_${PN}" | 11:20 |
| erbo | No, you can install them from another recipe too | 11:20 |
| erbo | See e.g. https://github.com/QtiPi/meta-qtipi/blob/master/recipes-core/network-config/network-config.bb | 11:20 |
| erbo | Maybe not the prettiest recipe in the world, but you can get the point from it :) | 11:21 |
| mauz555 | okay so I can just rename systemd-conf_%.bbappend to mysystemdconf-prod.bb for example | 11:21 |
| mauz555 | aewsome! ty erbo, rburton, qschulz | 11:22 |
| erbo | You probably need more than a rename, but yes that's the basic idea. | 11:22 |
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| qschulz | technically, this can be done in a bbappend with a new package in PACKAGES right? (just asking) | 11:24 |
| rburton | yeah | 11:25 |
| rburton | more complex that way though | 11:25 |
| rburton | might as well just have a single recipe shipping the fragment | 11:25 |
| qschulz | rburton: ah? PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-myconf" and then FILES_${PN}-myconf = "/etc/systemd/network/myconf.file"? isn't that enough? (with the added install in do_install) isn't that enough? | 11:27 |
| rburton | i just think its neater to not bbappend if you don't need to | 11:27 |
| qschulz | rburton: agreed. | 11:27 |
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| mauz555 | also I needed a systemd_%.bbappend to add PACKAGECONFIG_append = " networkd resolved". could I instead use some kind of DEPENDS_${PN}-systemd in my network-config.bb ? I know it works for packages but does it works for PackageConfig ? | 11:39 |
| erbo | mauz555: No, that bbappend is still needed | 11:40 |
| erbo | One package cannot affect how another one is built | 11:40 |
| erbo | In the same way images can't to that | 11:40 |
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| erbo | Since packages are built the same way regardless of which image they might eventually end up in | 11:41 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: it's time for your cult anthem now. Hurry up ^^^^^^ | 11:41 |
| mauz555 | erbo: clear | 11:41 |
| mauz555 | erbo: as I cannot mask a specific bbappend for a specific image and as PACKAGECONFIG_append can only happen in a bbappend. I guess my production and developement image will have to share that behaviour. | 11:43 |
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| erbo | mauz555: yes, but I guess having networkd enabled can't have that many downsides unless you're really space contrained | 11:44 |
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| mauz555 | erbo: right. I measuring how much I can reduce the "attack surface" using different images | 11:46 |
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| qschulz | mauz555: if it's really an issue, you might want to have a look at different distros? that way you can have PACKAGECONFIG_append_distrowithnetworkd = " networkd resolved"? | 11:50 |
| qschulz | but be careful, having different distros means almost everything is rebuilt and have a different sstate-cache | 11:51 |
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| mckoan | do you know how to call "source oe-init-build-env" and "bitbake core-minimal-image" inside a shell script? The first command doesn't continue to the second. | 12:57 |
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| guerinoni | try to check return value of command | 13:01 |
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| qschulz | mckoan: might need a subshell or source your script? Haven't tested though | 13:08 |
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| mckoan | qschulz: I am not sure is possible to surce a script that is doing a source | 13:14 |
| mckoan | the problem here is that the source is inside a script | 13:14 |
| mckoan | so it doesn't exit and can't continue to the next command | 13:15 |
| qschulz | mckoan: we're doing it, so yes, you can :) | 13:17 |
| qschulz | (though we're not calling bitbake in it, but source oe-init-build-env followed by our logic "works" TM) | 13:18 |
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| Erlkoenig | Hi, I would like to build a custom application for a Yocto target. I figure the proper way to do that is to use the eSDK. I am using the same (linux) host to develop & build both the Yocto system and the application. | 13:24 |
| Erlkoenig | Can I run the eSDK (particularly, devtool) directly from the Yocto source tree without having to (re-)build (bitbake image -c populate_sdk_ext) and install it each time I change something in the image? | 13:24 |
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| mckoan | qschulz: solved, it works if you use #!/usr/bin/env bash instead of #!/bin/bash ;-) | 13:42 |
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| qschulz | mckoan: could this mean that you don't have bash in /bin ? | 13:53 |
| rburton | yeah that sounds wrong | 13:55 |
| rburton | the only reason source followed by bitbake won't work is if you're not actually running a shell script, but a series of shell commands in different shells | 13:55 |
| rburton | like in a makefile you can't do source oe-init-build-env and then bitbake on the next line: theyre different shells so the environment doesn't persist | 13:56 |
| rburton | source oe-init-build-env && bitbake foobar | 13:56 |
| rburton | is the solution there | 13:56 |
| qschulz | rburton: that takes a very long one liner if you have many things to do :) | 13:57 |
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| mckoan | rburton: actually my script contains only these two lines | 14:05 |
| mckoan | rburton: but the solution was to change the shebang | 14:06 |
| qschulz | mckoan: I think the point of using /usr/bin/env bash is for portability, if someone uses your script on a system where bash is not in /bin as in your first try | 14:07 |
| erbo | yeah I don't understand why it made a difference | 14:09 |
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| mckoan | erbo: actually you are right, I'm still digging | 14:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Erlkoenig: devtool is available right in the standard build environment, no need to do the esdk dance at all. | 14:42 |
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| emrius | Hey there, ok, this seems very basic but still I am failing... I managed to get ssh access to a qemu image. But this fails on the actual device. I added `IMAGE_FEATURES += "ssh-server-dropbear"`. Is there any other configuration required? the device boots but on ssh using user `root` it says "No route to host" | 14:44 |
| emrius | Got it! | 14:45 |
| emrius | No way! my router front end is showing wrong IP addresses ... fucking cheap included Vodafone routers! Suckers... Found the correct ip using `nmap` | 14:46 |
| emrius | That took about two hours... grrr | 14:46 |
| Erlkoenig | LetoThe2nd: and it automatically uses all the dependency recipes and compilers from the source tree? | 14:48 |
| Erlkoenig | emrius: I usually find it helpful to connect to the target via serial port terminal, issue "ifconfig" and then connect via SSH... | 14:48 |
| emrius | Thanks! Yeah, I have to get used to that workflow | 14:49 |
| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Step by Step walk through on how to use swupdate on Raspberry Pi or any Embedded board for system update <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60724524/step-by-step-walk-through-on-how-to-use-swupdate-on-raspberry-pi-or-any-embedded> | 14:49 |
| qschulz | Erlkoenig: yes, devtool works with bitbake. I'm not sure if these words are exact but yes, you can devtool modify my-recipe, devtool build and even devtool deploy-target | 14:51 |
| Erlkoenig | Okay thanks... Right now I'm working on a different issue: Yocto uses g++ 7.3.0 but I need 8.3.0 - actually, I have a working aarch64-linux-gnu-g++ installed... | 14:52 |
| qschulz | Erlkoenig: I'm not familiar with compilers, why do you depend on a specific g+ version? IIRC, it's recommended to take the one from the Yocto branch and not try to backport/update it. So if need be, update your layers? | 14:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | Erlkoenig: then you have to set up a yocto build that brings the desired compiler. | 14:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | Erlkoenig: .e.g listen to qschulz ... (me is off again) | 14:55 |
| Erlkoenig | g++ 7.3.0 appears to have some bugs with C++17 that are fixed in 8.3.0 | 14:55 |
| Erlkoenig | Currently trying to workaround | 14:55 |
| qschulz | Erlkoenig: who uses C++? just migrate to pure C | 14:56 |
| Erlkoenig | I use it | 14:56 |
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| qschulz | I was trolling :) | 14:57 |
| qschulz | we're too | 14:57 |
| Erlkoenig | Gah! My blood pressure was peaking. | 14:57 |
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| qschulz | Erlkoenig: warrior branch has g++ 8.3.0 (well, gcc, but I don't see why we would have two different versions for gcc and g++) | 14:58 |
| Erlkoenig | okay... I am using a sumo tree provided by the board manufacturer | 14:58 |
| armpit | YPTM armin is on | 14:58 |
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| JPEW | YPTM: Joshua Watt here | 15:00 |
| Erlkoenig | I seem to have found a workaround. I think that's okay for now... | 15:00 |
| smurray | YPTM Scott Murray is on | 15:00 |
| moto-timo | YPTM Tim is on | 15:00 |
| qschulz | Erlkoenig: maybe you could share this workaround? people might have the same question in a few days/months | 15:00 |
| halstead | YPTM Michael present. | 15:01 |
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| Erlkoenig | I was capturing a template parameter pack in a lambda and extracting it in that lambda. I now wrapped that in another lambda that gets called for each parameter pack entry and which internally only sees single entries | 15:02 |
| Erlkoenig | Making a minimal example for that might prove difficult | 15:02 |
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| ecdhe | I'd like to make yocto cross-compile a custom cpython extension module, but haven't found much prior art on calling 'setup.py build_ext' from a .bb file. | 15:06 |
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| qschulz | Erlkoenig: I thought it was Yocto related work around :'D But thanks! | 15:25 |
| Erlkoenig | ah :D no i modified the source code | 15:25 |
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| dreyna | YPTM minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ly8nyhO14kDNnFcW2QskANXW3ZT7QwKC5wWVDg9dDH4 | 15:50 |
| zeddii | damn, that's fast! | 15:51 |
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| vmeson | khem: the YP autobuilder for zeus has gcc/glibc/binutils 'ptest' resutls: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20200313-3/testresults/testresult-report.txt | 15:52 |
| vmeson | I didn't see them for master, maybe armpit knows if the are only run for released versions. | 15:53 |
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| khem | thaks vmeson its helpful | 16:02 |
| emrius | Hey folks, I just posted another question on SO: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60726034/how-to-handle-the-license-field-when-there-is-no-license-file | 16:04 |
| emrius | What if there is no license file? | 16:04 |
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| rburton | what is the license? | 16:06 |
| emrius | GNU | 16:06 |
| rburton | and where is that defined | 16:06 |
| emrius | in each file header it seems | 16:06 |
| emrius | e.g. https://github.com/jwrdegoede/rtl8189ES_linux/blob/master/platform/platform_ops.h | 16:07 |
| rburton | and there we go, a license file | 16:07 |
| rburton | you can tell the license checksum to use a piece of the file with beginline/endline | 16:07 |
| emrius | ok. Great, I'll do that. I was just not sure if there is an issue as there are basically about 100 license copies. | 16:08 |
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| emrius | Anyway, I open an issue on the root repo asking to add a dedicated file. | 16:08 |
| emrius | thanks | 16:08 |
| rburton | you can just do one of them | 16:08 |
| armpit | vmeson, we have them for m3 | 16:09 |
| rburton | find a central header or something | 16:09 |
| armpit | https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/releases/yocto-3.1_M3.rc1/testresults/testresult-report.txt | 16:09 |
| emrius | Ok | 16:09 |
| emrius | You want to answer the question to get the credits on SO or shall I do that? | 16:10 |
| ecdhe | A little grepping in my yocto install and I see a couple of instances of "${PYTHON} setup.py" which looks promising, but no examples of build_ext | 16:12 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How to handle the LICENSE field when there is no license file? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60726034/how-to-handle-the-license-field-when-there-is-no-license-file> | 16:19 |
| rburton | emrius: done | 16:21 |
| emrius | thanks | 16:22 |
| emrius | accepted :) | 16:22 |
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| Erlkoenig | LetoThe2nd, qschulz - devtool appears to work right out of the yocto source tree, thanks! For whatever reason it didn't work right away when I first tried. Even deployment works, nice... | 16:40 |
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| roussinm | If I have an IvyBridge cpu for a machine, should I create my ivybridge-tune, so that I can get the AVX instruction set? Because If I use the corei7, it doesn't come with the AVX instruction set. | 16:46 |
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| ecdhe | any examples of building a basic python extention module in yocto? | 16:48 |
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| rburton | roussinm: meta-intel master has a shiny new BSP especially for you | 17:20 |
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| rburton | roussinm: try intel-skylake-64, *should* be an improvement. you'll want to double-check that skylake doens't add stuff that ivybridge doesn't have, i can't remember what was added when | 17:22 |
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| armpit | shiny.. nice | 17:24 |
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| roussinm | rburton: thanks, I'll take a look, but we are stuck on Krogoth. | 17:34 |
| rburton | then the skylake bsp is a perfect example of how to make your own custom bsp i guess | 17:34 |
| roussinm | amazing thanks! | 17:34 |
| roussinm | We are trying to get the most juice out of this machine lol :/ We were thinking of maybe backporting gcc 9.2 only for that machine, but it's probably too much work for the gain. | 17:35 |
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| roussinm | rburton: would you accept a patch to add the tune for ivybridge inside the meta-intel layer? | 17:40 |
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| yann | I'm surprised by gcc-runtime-dbg not containing the source files - is there something to look for around gcc-source package ? | 17:43 |
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| milloni | yann: just a guess on my part but perhaps gcc-runtime-dev? | 18:30 |
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| nemgti-og | I am trying to devtool build some-recipe in an eSDK I created. I am isntalling the eSDK in a docker container (not sure if that is relevant). My recipe downloads a git repo (camke is used here). Does anyboday knows what coudl be the reason of having "/bin/sh: 1: commonapi-generator-linux-x86_64: not found" returned on a "add_custom_command"Hello | 18:49 |
| nemgti-og | That last "Hello" word was supposed to be at the beginning of my line | 18:50 |
| nemgti-og | for a little more detail on my recipe, you can take a look here - the recipe is really short: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/message/48782 | 18:50 |
| nemgti-og | if I run that same command (i.e. commonapi-generator-linux-x86_64) anyware on my docker container, the command will be found and executed. Only when I am trying to build my recipe, will the command not be found | 18:53 |
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| yann | milloni: there's no such package - libstdc++-dev in my case is the closest, bus as expected only contains the headers, not the libstdc++ sources | 19:32 |
| milloni | hmm, okay, another guess - won't it be basically the same source as gcc-dev? | 19:33 |
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| mauz555 | hello how do you change the machine network hostname using poky ? | 19:46 |
| mauz555 | this does not work https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.7.3/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-customimage-image-name | 19:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mauz555: this does work, i have personally tested it only a couple of days back. the important parts ar the lines above the snippets, which sate in which files those things are expected to be placed. | 19:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | [RFC] how about a form of the build-appliance (dev-appliance?) that incorporates an esdk? multiconfig should makes this pretty straightforwards, right? | 20:04 |
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| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: I'm not sure I quite follow what you are trying to do | 20:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: we have the build-appliance image which is basically just an image with packagegroup-self-hosting on steroids, right? | 20:19 |
| JPEW | It's designed to produce an image that can build Yocto correct? | 20:20 |
| JPEW | That you could run e.g. in a container, in qemu, on a PC, etc. | 20:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: yeah, thats how i read it. | 20:20 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: So you want to build one that already has the eSDK in it? | 20:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: bingo. | 20:21 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: Whats the use case? | 20:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: having something that can be handed out along a specific board/target for newbies to start out more easily. | 20:23 |
| JPEW | Hmm, I've not used the eSDK much... is it a lot better than bitbake itself? | 20:24 |
| JPEW | s/better/easier/ | 20:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: its different and makes some specific workflows more straightforward. | 20:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: e.g. devtool specifically. | 20:25 |
| mauz555 | LetoThe2nd: is there no way to make it work from an image bb file ? I'd like to have a different hostname based on the loaded image | 20:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i just thought of the esdk as it would be an easier path than actually baking in a complete build environment. | 20:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | mauz555: nope, it doesn't work like that. | 20:25 |
| JPEW | mauz555: You *might* be able to override in a post processing command | 20:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | (yeah there are always tricks around it, like setting the hostnmae per se to empty, and injecting something else via a magic recipe that in turn pulls from somewhere... but thats a) a lot of work b) prone to break c) so much black magic - that the down to earth answer is just "no") | 20:28 |
| mauz555 | yocto is the most funny piece of technology I met, yet in the end it seems to do the job as intended | 20:28 |
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| mauz555 | blackmagic right | 20:30 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: so weirded out by the line of thought? | 20:32 |
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| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: heh, not sure :) | 20:43 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: Trying to figure out how multiconfig plays into it | 20:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: mc1: make the esdk. mc2: make the appliance, incorporating result from mc1 | 20:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | reasoning is that the target is a specific image-machine-distro config, which almost certainly is not x86_64/build-appliance :) | 20:46 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: Right, so I think you could write a recipe for the build appliance that extracts the eSDK so its included in the image | 20:50 |
| JPEW | So, the next question is: Why is the build-appliance necessary? | 20:51 |
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| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: so everything is already neatly wrapped up for those who are not familiar with the process of setting the stuff up | 20:55 |
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| * LetoThe2nd anyways, calls it a day. | 21:02 | |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: i'd be inclined to embed a proper bitbake and not esdk tbh | 21:20 |
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| bluelightning | hmm, I'm being asked for good intermediate-level tutorials | 22:23 |
| bluelightning | perhaps LetoThe2nd's twitch recordings? | 22:23 |
| rburton | probably a good start yes | 22:29 |
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