Tuesday, 2020-03-17

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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: Can't not build ixgbe of meta-intel <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60715382/cant-not-build-ixgbe-of-meta-intel>02:17
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: How to have more than one tty console in yocto? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60718045/how-to-have-more-than-one-tty-console-in-yocto>07:48
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Dracos-Carazzahi, i have a kernel config fragment (generated via menuconfig/diffconfig), which is copied to $WORKDIR but for some reason completely ignored afterwards during kernel compile09:03
Dracos-Carazzawhat could be the reason for such a behavior?09:03
Dracos-Carazzashouldn't resolve menuconfig/diffconfig all dependencies?09:04
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qschulzDracos-Carazza: depends on the recipe handling your kernel fragment. If it does not inherit kernel-yocto (or yocto-kernel?) bbclass, if it's not manually implemented in your recipe, you don't have fragment support09:15
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Dracos-Carazzafragment support is activated09:16
Dracos-Carazzathere are several fragments from different layers09:16
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qschulzDracos-Carazza: 1) check there isn't already a fragment named like that somehwere else. 2) check it's correctly named (e.g. has the correct file extension or whatever is used to detect it's a config fragment) 3) check the different config fragments you have are not conflicting in some ways (though I think Yocto throws an error when that happens?)09:32
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mauz555hi is there a way to SKIP a specific .bbappend  for an image ?11:08
rburtonfor an image, no11:09
qschulzmauz555: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-BBMASK, yocto-wide unfortunately11:09
rburtonimages are build from packages whihc are built from recipes.  bbappend changes a recipe but will impact the packages which are used in all images11:10
qschulzmauz555: but depending on what's inside the bbappend, you could actually override it in another bbappend?11:11
mauz555im setting up a production image and development image derived from prod adding dev tools11:12
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mauz555I bbappend systemd-network to automatically set up wlan connection for the dev image. but Id like to skip this .bbappend for the base (prod) image11:13
rburtonhave two recipes that ship different configuration11:14
rburtonyou can just ship the configuration fragments in their own recipe11:16
rburtonno need to bbappend11:16
mauz555I guess I'd better copy and rename the whole systemd-conf recipe from poky/meta to my own layer and make it one for prod and one for dev, so I could easily add them specifically per images11:16
rburtonno  need11:17
rburtonthe entire point of systemd configuration is that you can drop in fragments11:17
mauz555rburton: what do you mean by  "ship the configuration fragments"11:18
erbomauz555: e.g. files under /etc/systemd/network/11:19
mauz555I shipped systemd-network files to my own layer, but i needed a systemd-conf_%.bbappend to "FILESEXTRAPATHS_prepend" and "do_install_append" and "FILES_${PN}"11:20
erboNo, you can install them from another recipe too11:20
erboSee e.g. https://github.com/QtiPi/meta-qtipi/blob/master/recipes-core/network-config/network-config.bb11:20
erboMaybe not the prettiest recipe in the world, but you can get the point from it :)11:21
mauz555okay so I can just rename systemd-conf_%.bbappend to mysystemdconf-prod.bb for example11:21
mauz555aewsome! ty erbo, rburton, qschulz11:22
erboYou probably need more than a rename, but yes that's the basic idea.11:22
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qschulztechnically, this can be done in a bbappend with a new package in PACKAGES right? (just asking)11:24
rburtonmore complex that way though11:25
rburtonmight as well just have a single recipe shipping the fragment11:25
qschulzrburton: ah? PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-myconf" and then FILES_${PN}-myconf = "/etc/systemd/network/myconf.file"? isn't that enough? (with the added install in do_install) isn't that enough?11:27
rburtoni just think its neater to not bbappend if you don't need to11:27
qschulzrburton: agreed.11:27
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mauz555also I needed a systemd_%.bbappend to add         PACKAGECONFIG_append = " networkd resolved". could I instead use some kind of DEPENDS_${PN}-systemd in my network-config.bb ? I know it works for packages but does it works for PackageConfig ?11:39
erbomauz555: No, that bbappend is still needed11:40
erboOne package cannot affect how another one is built11:40
erboIn the same way images can't to that11:40
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erboSince packages are built the same way regardless of which image they might eventually end up in11:41
qschulzLetoThe2nd: it's time for your cult anthem now. Hurry up ^^^^^^11:41
mauz555erbo: clear11:41
mauz555erbo: as I cannot mask a specific bbappend for a specific image and as PACKAGECONFIG_append can only happen in a bbappend. I guess my production and developement image will have to share that behaviour.11:43
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erbomauz555: yes, but I guess having networkd enabled can't have that many downsides unless you're really space contrained11:44
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mauz555erbo: right. I measuring how much I can reduce the "attack surface" using different images11:46
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qschulzmauz555: if it's really an issue, you might want to have a look at different distros? that way you can have PACKAGECONFIG_append_distrowithnetworkd = " networkd resolved"?11:50
qschulzbut be careful, having different distros means almost everything is rebuilt and have a different sstate-cache11:51
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mckoando you know how to call "source oe-init-build-env" and "bitbake core-minimal-image" inside a shell script? The first command doesn't continue to the second.12:57
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guerinonitry to check return value of command13:01
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qschulzmckoan: might need a subshell or source your script? Haven't tested though13:08
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mckoanqschulz: I am not sure is possible to surce a script that is doing a source13:14
mckoanthe problem here is that the source is inside a script13:14
mckoanso it doesn't exit and can't continue to the next command13:15
qschulzmckoan: we're doing it, so yes, you can :)13:17
qschulz(though we're not calling bitbake in it, but source oe-init-build-env followed by our logic "works" TM)13:18
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ErlkoenigHi, I would like to build a custom application for a Yocto target. I figure the proper way to do that is to use the eSDK. I am using the same (linux) host to develop & build both the Yocto system and the application.13:24
ErlkoenigCan I run the eSDK (particularly, devtool) directly from the Yocto source tree without having to (re-)build (bitbake image -c populate_sdk_ext) and install it each time I change something in the image?13:24
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mckoanqschulz: solved, it works if you use #!/usr/bin/env bash instead of #!/bin/bash ;-)13:42
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qschulzmckoan: could this mean that you don't have bash in /bin ?13:53
rburtonyeah that sounds wrong13:55
rburtonthe only reason source followed by bitbake won't work is if you're not actually running a shell script, but a series of shell commands in different shells13:55
rburtonlike in a makefile you can't do source oe-init-build-env and then bitbake on the next line: theyre different shells so the environment doesn't persist13:56
rburtonsource oe-init-build-env && bitbake foobar13:56
rburtonis the solution there13:56
qschulzrburton: that takes a very long one liner if you have many things to do :)13:57
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mckoanrburton: actually my script contains only these two lines14:05
mckoanrburton: but the solution was to change the shebang14:06
qschulzmckoan: I think the point of using /usr/bin/env bash is for portability, if someone uses your script on a system where bash is not in /bin as in your first try14:07
erboyeah I don't understand why it made a difference14:09
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mckoanerbo: actually you are right, I'm still digging14:33
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LetoThe2ndErlkoenig: devtool is available right in the standard build environment, no need to do the esdk dance at all.14:42
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emriusHey there, ok, this seems very basic but still I am failing... I managed to get ssh access to a qemu image. But this fails on the actual device. I added `IMAGE_FEATURES += "ssh-server-dropbear"`. Is there any other configuration required? the device boots but on ssh using user `root` it says "No route to host"14:44
emriusGot it!14:45
emriusNo way! my router front end is showing wrong IP addresses ... fucking cheap included Vodafone routers! Suckers... Found the correct ip using `nmap`14:46
emriusThat took about two hours... grrr14:46
ErlkoenigLetoThe2nd: and it automatically uses all the dependency recipes and compilers from the source tree?14:48
Erlkoenigemrius: I usually find it helpful to connect to the target via serial port terminal, issue "ifconfig" and then connect via SSH...14:48
emriusThanks! Yeah, I have to get used to that workflow14:49
yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: Step by Step walk through on how to use swupdate on Raspberry Pi or any Embedded board for system update <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60724524/step-by-step-walk-through-on-how-to-use-swupdate-on-raspberry-pi-or-any-embedded>14:49
qschulzErlkoenig: yes, devtool works with bitbake. I'm not sure if these words are exact but yes, you can devtool modify my-recipe, devtool build and even devtool deploy-target14:51
ErlkoenigOkay thanks... Right now I'm working on a different issue: Yocto uses g++ 7.3.0 but I need 8.3.0 - actually, I have a working aarch64-linux-gnu-g++ installed...14:52
qschulzErlkoenig: I'm not familiar with compilers, why do you depend on a specific g+ version? IIRC, it's recommended to take the one from the Yocto branch and not try to backport/update it. So if need be, update your layers?14:54
LetoThe2ndErlkoenig: then you have to set up a yocto build that brings the desired compiler.14:54
LetoThe2ndErlkoenig: .e.g listen to qschulz ... (me is off again)14:55
Erlkoenigg++ 7.3.0 appears to have some bugs with C++17 that are fixed in 8.3.014:55
ErlkoenigCurrently trying to workaround14:55
qschulzErlkoenig: who uses C++? just migrate to pure C14:56
ErlkoenigI use it14:56
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qschulzI was trolling :)14:57
qschulzwe're too14:57
ErlkoenigGah! My blood pressure was peaking.14:57
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qschulzErlkoenig: warrior branch has g++ 8.3.0 (well, gcc, but I don't see why we would have two different versions for gcc and g++)14:58
Erlkoenigokay... I am using a sumo tree provided by the board manufacturer14:58
armpitYPTM armin is on14:58
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JPEWYPTM: Joshua Watt here15:00
ErlkoenigI seem to have found a workaround. I think that's okay for now...15:00
smurrayYPTM Scott Murray is on15:00
moto-timoYPTM Tim is on15:00
qschulzErlkoenig: maybe you could share this workaround? people might have the same question in a few days/months15:00
halsteadYPTM Michael present.15:01
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ErlkoenigI was capturing a template parameter pack in a lambda and extracting it in that lambda. I now wrapped that in another lambda that gets called for each parameter pack entry and which internally only sees single entries15:02
ErlkoenigMaking a minimal example for that might prove difficult15:02
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ecdheI'd like to make yocto cross-compile a custom cpython extension module, but haven't found much prior art on calling 'setup.py build_ext' from a .bb file.15:06
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qschulzErlkoenig: I thought it was Yocto related work around :'D But thanks!15:25
Erlkoenigah :D no i modified the source code15:25
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dreynaYPTM minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ly8nyhO14kDNnFcW2QskANXW3ZT7QwKC5wWVDg9dDH415:50
zeddiidamn, that's fast!15:51
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vmesonkhem: the YP autobuilder for zeus has gcc/glibc/binutils 'ptest' resutls: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20200313-3/testresults/testresult-report.txt15:52
vmesonI didn't see them for master, maybe armpit knows if the are only run for released versions.15:53
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khemthaks vmeson its helpful16:02
emriusHey folks, I just posted another question on SO: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60726034/how-to-handle-the-license-field-when-there-is-no-license-file16:04
emriusWhat if there is no license file?16:04
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rburtonwhat is the license?16:06
rburtonand where is that defined16:06
emriusin each file header it seems16:06
emriuse.g. https://github.com/jwrdegoede/rtl8189ES_linux/blob/master/platform/platform_ops.h16:07
rburtonand there we go, a license file16:07
rburtonyou can tell the license checksum to use a piece of the file with beginline/endline16:07
emriusok. Great, I'll do that. I was just not sure if there is an issue as there are basically about 100 license copies.16:08
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emriusAnyway, I open an issue on the root repo asking to add a dedicated file.16:08
rburtonyou can just do one of them16:08
armpitvmeson, we have them for m316:09
rburtonfind a central header or something16:09
emriusYou want to answer the question to get the credits on SO or shall I do that?16:10
ecdheA little grepping in my yocto install and I see a couple of instances of "${PYTHON} setup.py" which looks promising, but no examples of build_ext16:12
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yoctiNew news from stackoverflow: How to handle the LICENSE field when there is no license file? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60726034/how-to-handle-the-license-field-when-there-is-no-license-file>16:19
rburtonemrius: done16:21
emriusaccepted :)16:22
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ErlkoenigLetoThe2nd, qschulz - devtool appears to work right out of the yocto source tree, thanks! For whatever reason it didn't work right away when I first tried. Even deployment works, nice...16:40
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roussinmIf I have an IvyBridge cpu for a machine, should I create my ivybridge-tune, so that I can get the AVX instruction set? Because If I use the corei7, it doesn't come with the AVX instruction set.16:46
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ecdheany examples of building a basic python extention module in yocto?16:48
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rburtonroussinm: meta-intel master has a shiny new BSP especially for you17:20
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rburtonroussinm: try intel-skylake-64, *should* be an improvement.  you'll want to double-check that skylake doens't add stuff that ivybridge doesn't have, i can't remember what was added when17:22
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armpitshiny.. nice17:24
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roussinmrburton: thanks, I'll take a look, but we are stuck on Krogoth.17:34
rburtonthen the skylake bsp is a perfect example of how to make your own custom bsp i guess17:34
roussinmamazing thanks!17:34
roussinmWe are trying to get the most juice out of this machine lol :/ We were thinking of maybe backporting gcc 9.2 only for that machine, but it's probably too much work for the gain.17:35
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roussinmrburton: would you accept a patch to add the tune for ivybridge inside the meta-intel layer?17:40
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yannI'm surprised by gcc-runtime-dbg not containing the source files -  is there something to look for around gcc-source package ?17:43
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milloniyann: just a guess on my part but perhaps gcc-runtime-dev?18:30
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nemgti-ogI am trying to devtool build some-recipe in an eSDK I created. I am isntalling the eSDK in a docker container (not sure if that is relevant). My recipe downloads a git repo (camke is used here). Does anyboday knows what coudl be the reason of having "/bin/sh: 1: commonapi-generator-linux-x86_64: not found" returned on a "add_custom_command"Hello18:49
nemgti-ogThat last "Hello" word was supposed to be at the beginning of my line18:50
nemgti-ogfor a little more detail on my recipe, you can take a look here - the recipe is really short: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/message/4878218:50
nemgti-ogif I run that same command (i.e. commonapi-generator-linux-x86_64) anyware on my docker container, the command will be found and executed. Only when I am trying to build my recipe, will the command not be found18:53
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yannmilloni: there's no such package - libstdc++-dev in my case is the closest, bus as expected only contains the headers, not the libstdc++ sources19:32
millonihmm, okay, another guess - won't it be basically the same source as gcc-dev?19:33
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mauz555hello how do you change the machine network hostname using poky ?19:46
mauz555this does not work https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.7.3/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-customimage-image-name19:51
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LetoThe2ndmauz555: this does work, i have personally tested it only a couple of days back. the important parts ar the lines above the snippets, which sate in which files those things are expected to be placed.19:55
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LetoThe2nd[RFC] how about a form of the build-appliance (dev-appliance?) that incorporates an esdk? multiconfig should makes this pretty straightforwards, right?20:04
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JPEWLetoThe2nd: I'm not sure I quite follow what you are trying to do20:18
LetoThe2ndJPEW: we have the build-appliance image which is basically just an image with packagegroup-self-hosting on steroids, right?20:19
JPEWIt's designed to produce an image that can build Yocto correct?20:20
JPEWThat you could run e.g. in a container, in qemu, on a PC, etc.20:20
LetoThe2ndJPEW: yeah, thats how i read it.20:20
JPEWLetoThe2nd: So you want to build one that already has the eSDK in it?20:21
LetoThe2ndJPEW: bingo.20:21
JPEWLetoThe2nd: Whats the use case?20:22
LetoThe2ndJPEW: having something that can be handed out along a specific board/target for newbies to start out more easily.20:23
JPEWHmm, I've not used the eSDK much... is it a lot better than bitbake itself?20:24
LetoThe2ndJPEW: its different and makes some specific workflows more straightforward.20:24
LetoThe2ndJPEW: e.g. devtool specifically.20:25
mauz555LetoThe2nd: is there no way to make it work from an image bb file ? I'd like to have a different hostname based on the loaded image20:25
LetoThe2ndi just thought of the esdk as it would be an easier path than actually baking in  a complete build environment.20:25
LetoThe2ndmauz555: nope, it doesn't work like that.20:25
JPEWmauz555: You *might* be able to override in a post processing command20:26
LetoThe2nd(yeah there are always tricks around it, like setting the hostnmae per se to empty, and injecting something else via a magic recipe that in turn pulls from somewhere... but thats a) a lot of work b) prone to break c) so much black magic - that the down to earth answer is just "no")20:28
mauz555yocto is the most funny piece of technology I met, yet in the end it seems to do the job as intended20:28
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mauz555blackmagic right20:30
LetoThe2ndJPEW: so weirded out by the line of thought?20:32
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JPEWLetoThe2nd: heh, not sure :)20:43
JPEWLetoThe2nd: Trying to figure out how multiconfig plays into it20:44
LetoThe2ndJPEW: mc1: make the esdk. mc2: make the appliance, incorporating result from mc120:45
LetoThe2ndreasoning is that the target is a specific image-machine-distro config, which almost certainly is not x86_64/build-appliance :)20:46
JPEWLetoThe2nd: Right, so I think you could write a recipe for the build appliance that extracts the eSDK so its included in the image20:50
JPEWSo, the next question is: Why is the build-appliance necessary?20:51
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LetoThe2ndJPEW: so everything is already neatly wrapped up for those who are not familiar with the process of setting the stuff up20:55
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* LetoThe2nd anyways, calls it a day.21:02
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: i'd be inclined to embed a proper bitbake and not esdk tbh21:20
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bluelightninghmm, I'm being asked for good intermediate-level tutorials22:23
bluelightningperhaps LetoThe2nd's twitch recordings?22:23
rburtonprobably a good start yes22:29
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