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| stefandxm | hola | 00:03 |
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| stefandxm | iam trying to understand the runqemu approach | 00:03 |
| stefandxm | is there any exhaustive material on how this works? | 00:04 |
| stefandxm | if possible i want to run it outside the yocto enviroment in total | 00:08 |
| stefandxm | building yocto in a dockers container | 00:08 |
| stefandxm | preferably running the tests outside | 00:08 |
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| alejandrohs | stefandxm: I dont think theres any documentation other than the code itself which is inside scripts/runqemu, it does rely on the data grabbed from bitbake, so you would still need to do that to get the required variables about the system it'll run, a lot of those are inside the qemuboot.conf file on your deploy directory, which are set on the qemuboot class, you can easily share directories between | 01:09 |
| alejandrohs | the container and your host which would allow you to do something similar to that | 01:09 |
| stefandxm | thats fair | 01:15 |
| stefandxm | ponder i want to run 10x tests in parallel taking days | 01:16 |
| stefandxm | hmm, should work | 01:16 |
| stefandxm | sorry, was thinking loud :) | 01:16 |
| stefandxm | but main question remains tho. albeit its my own fault | 01:18 |
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| stefandxm | runqemu documentation? i had some difficulties with it yesterday | 01:18 |
| stefandxm | i see now our shell scripts do not export stuff | 01:22 |
| stefandxm | but pondering this works | 01:22 |
| stefandxm | we should be able to stage the qemuboot.conf right? | 01:23 |
| stefandxm | with the image? | 01:23 |
| stefandxm | (iam a bit out of the loop, just a programmer :) | 01:23 |
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| alejandrohs | technically the qemuboot.conf would still be generated within the build, so inside the container | 01:29 |
| alejandrohs | stefandxm: but if you share the build directory of such container with your host, you can run the same environment that was used to build on your host | 01:30 |
| alejandrohs | and it would grab the correct qemuboot.conf automatically | 01:30 |
| alejandrohs | thats just AN approach that comes to mind cant say its the most efficient possible | 01:31 |
| alejandrohs | so what I'm saying is you dont have to stage it, from outside the container you can just use the one created inside | 01:32 |
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| stefandxm | yeah we have mounted into the dockers container | 01:33 |
| stefandxm | i want to stage it | 01:33 |
| stefandxm | but i do it manually with some python scripts | 01:33 |
| alejandrohs | you would have to source the oe-env from outside and then nothing stops you from running runqemu at that point | 01:34 |
| stefandxm | its mostly because i want many short-tests | 01:34 |
| stefandxm | yeah | 01:34 |
| alejandrohs | as in you are using testimage? | 01:34 |
| stefandxm | yes | 01:34 |
| stefandxm | i think i will attack runqemu and make it more permanent to our test system | 01:34 |
| stefandxm | in the end i guess its all qemu system right? | 01:35 |
| alejandrohs | stefandxm: please dont attack our code | 01:36 |
| stefandxm | the reason for staging is because our generic testing system runs 1-~10 tests | 01:36 |
| alejandrohs | jk | 01:36 |
| stefandxm | and we do a dry run, quick test, quick test * 2 | 01:36 |
| stefandxm | and then some longer tests | 01:36 |
| alejandrohs | you can define different test suites | 01:36 |
| stefandxm | yeah, but the tests depend on evironment | 01:37 |
| stefandxm | not talking about the shell environment but databases/perpherials etc | 01:37 |
| stefandxm | a complete test takes 2 weeks :o | 01:37 |
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| stefandxm | its nothing advanced. just staging :) | 01:38 |
| stefandxm | in this case the yocto image is an edge device | 01:39 |
| stefandxm | or, even several | 01:39 |
| stefandxm | and each image depends on a production enviroment | 01:39 |
| stefandxm | yocto in total.. i have no idea :D | 01:41 |
| stefandxm | for what we are using it for it seems a bit over engineered | 01:41 |
| stefandxm | maybe its time for some separation | 01:41 |
| stefandxm | but it works great :) | 01:41 |
| alejandrohs | I think its achievable, my one suggestion would just be not to deviate too much from upstream, in case some behavior changes and that way you don thave to rebase your work | 01:41 |
| stefandxm | indeed | 01:42 |
| stefandxm | i will do full copy in the staging though | 01:42 |
| stefandxm | since you never know what triggers an issue | 01:42 |
| stefandxm | with yocto so many stages can create new behaviour | 01:42 |
| stefandxm | but we are in desperate need of emulator to get to valgrind etc | 01:43 |
| stefandxm | the hardware is just not fast enough | 01:43 |
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| dp | When building offline, I notice that yocto really wants to contact a git server in the case of recipes using tags for SRCREV. I see the advice is to "use SHAs instead, silly" but I would like to leave my recipes looking pretty. Is there a way I can get it not to try and fetch tags when offline (e.g. BB_NO_NETWORK)? | 01:43 |
| dp | I understand the problems around tags potentially changing definition upstream, but if I'm building offline I don't 100% care about that from a developer perspective, since I'd have imagined offline builds to use local versions of tags | 01:44 |
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| stefandxm | alejandrohs: you work on yocto? | 01:49 |
| stefandxm | dp: sorry i dont know | 01:49 |
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| alejandrohs | stefandxm: I mean tecnically we all contribute to it | 02:12 |
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| stefandxm | alejandrohs: i just adressed you because of the original comment of yours :) but you are a maintainer no? | 02:14 |
| stefandxm | we are very happy with yocto | 02:14 |
| stefandxm | iam working for a company trying to get away from some lock ins | 02:15 |
| stefandxm | and personally iam an avid open source contributor | 02:15 |
| stefandxm | having some projects on my own | 02:15 |
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| stefandxm | but we are new to yocto :) | 02:16 |
| stefandxm | and while trying to do some stuff yourself until you learn i love the synergy of asking questions when it can help you | 02:17 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Config parsing error on xl create for Xen Guest DomU <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55907917/config-parsing-error-on-xl-create-for-xen-guest-domu> | 02:35 |
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| alejandrohs | stefandxm: yes, usually you can get help from the community through these channels | 05:06 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Installing Mosquitto on Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61095064/installing-mosquitto-on-yocto> | 07:36 |
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| aurelienbouin | Hello everybody, I am looking for a yocto build machine, I would like at least 32 threads (16 cores), have you buy something like that ? Do you have a website to advise me ? Thank you very much | 08:39 |
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| qschulz | aurelienbouin: there was a thread recently on the mailing list, let me find it | 08:41 |
| aurelienbouin | qschulz: oh really, yes please show me it ! thank you | 08:43 |
| qschulz | aurelienbouin: ah not exactly... there was discussion on what were the factors for speedy yocto builds | 08:48 |
| qschulz | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/topic/72047879#48885 | 08:52 |
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| aurelienbouin | qschulz yes interesting, but where to buy ;-) | 08:57 |
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| paulbarker | aurelienbouin: Are you looking to buy a physical server or just rent one in a datacentre somewhere? I use Hetzner (DE) and OVH (FR/GB) servers | 09:10 |
| aurelienbouin | As a yocto build machine I was planning to use AMD EPYC 7302P (Lenovo ThinkSystem SR635), but I don't know if it is worth it compare to AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | 09:11 |
| aurelienbouin | paulbarker : The problem is my internet connection bandwidth, else i would rent AWS or any other machine online, things that i do for my customers ... | 09:12 |
| paulbarker | https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-EPYC-7302P-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X/3610vs3493 | 09:13 |
| aurelienbouin | Maybe better to buy two AMD Ryzen 9 then | 09:13 |
| aurelienbouin | paulbarker: Maybe better to buy two AMD Ryzen 9 then | 09:14 |
| paulbarker | Personally I'd take the Ryzen 9. | 09:14 |
| aurelienbouin | Is there a way to split yocto build among multiple machine on a network ? | 09:14 |
| paulbarker | Not that I know of. Multiple machines would help if you've got more than one build to do at a time though, I often find I have 3 machines running different builds | 09:15 |
| aurelienbouin | paulbarker: yes the same for me the problem is that sometime we need to wait until a build finished for so small modifications ... | 09:16 |
| mcfrisk | aurelienbouin: pool of throw away build machines and jenkins... | 09:16 |
| aurelienbouin | mcfrisk: yes actually using bamboo those times but yes the way to go I guess | 09:18 |
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| RobertBerger | @aurelienbouin: Is there a way to split yocto build among multiple machine on a network ? - Yes you can try icecream | 09:19 |
| mcfrisk | aurelienbouin: measure your builds:CPU, RAM, IO, disk, networking.. take machines where you can extend at least memory and disk if needed. our builds are not bound by CPUs nor RAM nor disk or network. It's an annoying combination of them which is hard to optimize... | 09:20 |
| RobertBerger | @aurelienbouin: there is a bbclass for it in poky: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/icecc.bbclass | 09:21 |
| mcfrisk | I didn't see any build time improvements with icecc...switching from virtual machines to real throw away ones brought the biggest reliability and performance gains beyond rm_work, sstate caches/mirrors, download caches.. | 09:22 |
| aurelienbouin | RobertBerger: really interesting ! Reading on it : https://elinux.org/images/c/cc/Sweeten_Your_Yocto_Build_Times_with_Icecream.pdf if you have a better link I am also interested | 09:22 |
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| aurelienbouin | mcfrisk: I prefer to use docker instead of VM, a lot more convenient to share folders; reproduce builds;move build etc | 09:23 |
| mcfrisk | we use lxc, docker would do as well. but mainly for host contamination and easier portability of all build tools and their versions. | 09:25 |
| aurelienbouin | I share sstate-cache dir and downloads folder through docker, example of a launch : DOWNLOADS_SHARED_DIRECTORY="/media/hddhome/bouin/yocto/downloads/" && SSTATE_SHARED_DIRECTORY="/media/hddhome/bouin/yocto/sstate-cache/" && docker run --rm -it -v ${PWD}:/workdir -v ${DOWNLOADS_SHARED_DIRECTORY}:/workdir/downloads -v ${SSTATE_SHARED_DIRECTORY}:/workdir/sstate-cache crops/poky:ubuntu-18.04 --workdir=/workdir bash | 09:27 |
| mcfrisk | docker images are not reproducible by default... | 09:28 |
| RobertBerger | @aurelienbouin: here are a few notes I made about it: http://reliableembeddedsystems.com/wiki/index.php?title=Technonolgies_to_check#UB_18 | 09:29 |
| RobertBerger | @aurelienbouin: http://reliableembeddedsystems.com/wiki/index.php?title=Technonolgies_to_check#icecream | 09:30 |
| RobertBerger | @aurelienbouin: I use proxmox and lxr containers which docker running in there - much better performance than vm + container | 09:34 |
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| aurelienbouin | mcfrisk: don't you think that buy 2x 12 cores processors combined with icecc won't get better performance than 1x16 cores processor ? of course with RAM and NvME etc | 09:34 |
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| aurelienbouin | Thank you all for your time RobertBerger mcfrisk paulbarker qschulz | 09:43 |
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| emrius | Hello together, I ran into a strange error: do_package_qa: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory. | 12:12 |
| emrius | This is strange 1. because the stated .debug directory doesn't exist and 2. I have no idea why that directory was created. | 12:13 |
| emrius | The recipe compiles some c code through a makefile | 12:13 |
| emrius | Can anyone shed some light onto 1. or 2.? | 12:13 |
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| emrius | INHIBIT_PACKAGE_DEBUG_SPLIT = "1" fixed that for now. But I'm still a little confused about number 1. | 12:21 |
| emrius | anyway... | 12:21 |
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| vermaete | Hi, | 12:29 |
| vermaete | Is there a way to set the compiler options to a more strict was (e.g. -Wall, pedantic, ...) in a recipe or local.conf? | 12:30 |
| vermaete | I could like to use this in the CI to do some QA measurements. | 12:30 |
| vermaete | I know there is insane.bbclass, but this seems to be more about yocto itself and not the compiler of some bb recipes. | 12:31 |
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| qschulz | vermaete: CFLAGS += in your recipe? | 12:35 |
| vermaete | Could work, but if possible I was looking for an option at local.conf that would be used for all recipes. | 12:36 |
| vermaete | Well, I was just wondering how Yocto/OE of users where doing this. | 12:36 |
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| mcfrisk | vermaete: meta/conf/bitbake.conf and *OPTMIZIATION flags, you can change these in distro or local.conf | 12:41 |
| mcfrisk | note that some recipes do overwrite e.g. -O2 optimization with -O3, so for Os builds for example some patches will be needed to make these effective. inspection of buildhistory for sizes with Os or do_compile logs for other flags will be needed. | 12:42 |
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| qschulz | mcfrisk: and if I can add, I got bit recently by a SW that would work with -O0 only :) | 12:52 |
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| vermaete | thanks! I will check these things. | 12:59 |
| mcfrisk | qschulz: I've been there too. it was an expensive bit of SW too. well done from their sales team.. | 13:00 |
| qschulz | mcfrisk: signing tool for secure boot from the SoC vendor for me :) | 13:00 |
| mcfrisk | oh, those are fun.. | 13:01 |
| mcfrisk | should we start the daily/weekly BSP bashing rant? | 13:01 |
| PatrickE | hey i created a simple recipe, now i get ERROR: Function failed: BUILDSPEC any advice? | 13:05 |
| PatrickE | :q | 13:05 |
| paulbarker | PatrickE: Can you share the full error via a pastebin? | 13:05 |
| PatrickE | iam already pasting it | 13:06 |
| PatrickE | http://dpaste.com/1CC2T5P | 13:07 |
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| paulbarker | PatrickE: The full bitbake output would make things clearer | 13:11 |
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| PatrickE | paulbarker its the same | 13:21 |
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| paulbarker | PatrickE: So you ran bitbake and that was the full output? | 13:24 |
| paulbarker | What was the bitbake command? | 13:25 |
| PatrickE | yes | 13:25 |
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| PatrickE | error: line 6: Empty tag: Group: | 13:30 |
| PatrickE | This is the error | 13:30 |
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| paulbarker | PatrickE: Please share the command you executed and the full output printed, we can't really help from what you've shared so far | 13:41 |
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| qschulz | has anyone ever had an issue with a file-rdeps issue for lib32-gstreamer1.0-plugins-good-cairo package? | 14:06 |
| qschulz | QA Issue: /usr/lib/gstreamer-1.0/libgstcairo.so requires libcairo-gobject.so.2, but no providers found in RDEPEND | 14:09 |
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| thomas_dee | Hello, when bitbaking the linux kernel, there might be some unset CONFIG-switches. The build then aborts with an error message stating the missing CONFIG. | 14:20 |
| thomas_dee | The problem ist now: I have a lot of unset CONFIG switches and I have to run bitbake again and agian to add all the missing swicthes step by step. | 14:20 |
| thomas_dee | Is there a global "set all unset CONFIG switches to [n]" | 14:21 |
| thomas_dee | ? | 14:21 |
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| thomas_dee | Additional info: we use a custom default-config | 14:22 |
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| paulbarker | thomas_dee: How did you generate the custom config? | 14:26 |
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| thomas_dee | We used menuconfig and then saved it. BUT, we also "add" cfg snippets in the do_configure_append. And those (there set) CONFIG switches adds some more CONFIG-dependencies which I want to default to [n] | 14:27 |
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| qschulz | wth. So... cairo-gobject package is created but not lib32-cairo-gobject... | 14:57 |
| qschulz | but there is a packages-split directory for it with the correct lib in it | 14:57 |
| qschulz | how could this happen? | 14:57 |
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| nameclash | hi everyone, is there anything special in baking meta packages? I want to bake meta-toolchain-qt5 which works fine when passing it directly to bitbake, however when I add it to IMAGE_INSTALL in core-image-minimal.bbappend it fails complaining "No package meta-toolchain-qt5 available" .... I'm confused and can't find anything really useful on this out there | 15:02 |
| jpuhlman | nameclash: Yeah meta packages do not generate packages that can be included in an image. | 15:02 |
| jpuhlman | meta-toolchain-qt5 is a build target for generating an SDK. | 15:03 |
| nameclash | ok, I see | 15:03 |
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| jpuhlman | nameclash, The target part you want in your image is likely packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-target | 15:04 |
| nameclash | actually that was my ultimate goal anyway, I just needed qmake to be included in an SDK | 15:04 |
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| nameclash | thanks @jpuhlman, that's reasonable info | 15:05 |
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| jpuhlman | nameclash, in a normal case you could add the packaagegroup to your image, and run the image -c populate_sdk or -c populates_ext_sdk and it will give you a working sdk with qt5. However the qt5 toolchain sdk also adds in nativesdk-qttools-tools to make the sdk more usable for qt development. | 15:08 |
| nameclash | I'm running a build with nativesdk-packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-host now and see what I get | 15:10 |
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| nameclash | it should include nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host, nativesdk-qttools-tools and nativesdk-qtbase-tools | 15:10 |
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| jpuhlman | nameclash yeah. that will build the packages that are used to assemble the meta-toolchain-qt5 sdk, but it won't actually build the sdk itself. | 15:13 |
| nameclash | sdk creation is already in place, I'm just adding more packages in there | 15:14 |
| qschulz | ok, found it. It's a license issue. LICENSE_${PN}-gobject does not seem to work for the lib32 variant for some reason..... | 15:14 |
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| jpuhlman | You would need to rebuild the sdk in order for new packages to be added. | 15:17 |
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| jpuhlman | if you built meta-toolchain-qt5 they should already exist since that is what it keys off of. You have to alter TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK to add new nativesdk packages and TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK to add new target packages to the sdk. | 15:19 |
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| nameclash | I added nativesdk-packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-host to TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_append | 15:24 |
| jpuhlman | So looking at the meta-toolchain task they are doing some extra env output likely to enable additional stuff. | 15:24 |
| nameclash | yeah they're adding the target toolchain and qtcreator, I don't need any of these | 15:26 |
| nameclash | packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-target and packagegroup-qt5-qtcreator-debug ... dont need em | 15:27 |
| nameclash | thanks jpuhlman, gotta go afk now before my wife freaks out | 15:28 |
| nameclash | homeoffice around the globe is cool but you gotta know where to make the cut :) | 15:29 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: How do I enable bridged networking in Xen guest? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55907917/how-do-i-enable-bridged-networking-in-xen-guest> | 15:38 |
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| nameclash | jpuhlman, I'm getting "environment-setup.d conflicts between attempted installs of nativesdk-cmake-3.8.2-r0.x86_64_nativesdk and nativesdk-qtbase-tools-5.9.8+git0+82eb6aa08e-r0.x86_64_nativesdk" on do_populate_sdk now, do I interpret this right that the two are populating overlapping artifacts? | 15:42 |
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| jpuhlman | Perhaps, can you put the error in pastbin? | 15:47 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: gnome.gtk-doc() gives permission denied error in Yocto (do_install) <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61104614/gnome-gtk-doc-gives-permission-denied-error-in-yocto-do-install> | 16:08 |
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| moto-timo | JPEW: dunfell branch created. thank you for the reminder | 17:18 |
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| qschulz | OK, there is definitely a LICENSE issue with multilib packages. | 17:39 |
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| The_Pacifist | don't want to dox anyone but is there someone here names phillip who went to VT? | 17:45 |
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| bluelightning | The_Pacifist: I believe there is yes | 18:35 |
| bluelightning | I will poke him and he will get in contact | 18:36 |
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| Crofton|road | it is no secret | 18:39 |
| Crofton|road | The_Pacifist: I am likely the person you seek | 18:40 |
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| armpit | I would have asked why they are looking for you before raising your hand. | 18:47 |
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| armpit | maybe that philip is involved in some sort of love triangle | 18:48 |
| zeddii | lets start some rumours | 18:49 |
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| paulg | ooh, worked for the giant electronic conglomerate Phillips, I heard. | 19:13 |
| khem | is it equilateral or one-sides triangle | 19:13 |
| paulg | stole top sekrit plans for a new screwdriver too. | 19:14 |
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| zeddii | had to admit that robertson is superior to phillips | 19:23 |
| * zeddii wonders if only the canadians got that reference. | 19:24 | |
| paulg | funny, since I was thinking of typing a square head reference too.... | 19:24 |
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| paulg | That should be a Canadian immigration test. List the robertson colours from smallest to largest. | 19:26 |
| paulg | automatic fail if you spell colour wrong. | 19:26 |
| zeddii | harsh! | 19:27 |
| paulg | gotta keep the heathens out, and we can't afford to build a wall. ;) | 19:28 |
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| khem | export Tim Hortons to other countries then you wont need wall :) | 19:30 |
| mischief1 | it looks like commit 8946c65c8f0 broke using icecc with a kernel recipe. is that expected? | 19:30 |
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| paulg | khem, https://locations.timhortons.com/us.html | 19:32 |
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| mischief1 | i filed a bug about icecc, i hope using BZ is the right approach.. | 20:18 |
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| nameclash | I'm trying to configure a qt based project for my target platform using qmake that I baked into the nativesdk and get this error: | 21:51 |
| nameclash | Checking for Qt using qmake ......... no (Qt include directory "/home/user/work/montavista/meta-user/opencgx-xilinx-2.4/project/tmp/work/x86_64-nativesdk-montavistasdk-linux/nativesdk-qtbase/5.9.8+gitAUTOINC+82eb6aa08e-r0/recipe-sysroot/opt/montavista/sysroots/x86_64-montavistasdk-linux/usr/include/qt5" does not exist) | 21:51 |
| nameclash | somehow the tmp directory from the build process has found its way into the built qmake. I don't understand what's going on -- does this look familiar to any of you? (maybe also in the context of other recipes?) | 21:52 |
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| khem | nameclash: your SDK vendor should be right entity to help you | 22:00 |
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| khem | if you can reproduce it with master perhaps someone here might be able to assist you better | 22:01 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Recipe Build Failure for requests-unixsocket <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61110730/recipe-build-failure-for-requests-unixsocket> | 22:09 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: imx6qsabresd Yocto compile driver selftest/demo application on the linux-imx recipe <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61111628/imx6qsabresd-yocto-compile-driver-selftest-demo-application-on-the-linux-imx-rec> | 23:39 |
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