| fray | Hmm.. I never saw the meta-openssl one.. but if Jason merged, good.. | 00:16 |
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| clementp[m] | Hi all, do you know a nice platform for getting logs of IoT devices available in yocto ? | 08:40 |
| Letothe2nd | define logs, define nice, define iot :P | 08:40 |
| mckoan | Letothe2nd: LOL | 08:42 |
| Letothe2nd | hey at least i think we can agree on....erm wait. | 08:42 |
| Letothe2nd | clementp[m]: please define "platform". | 08:43 |
| Letothe2nd | i think the "yocto" part at least is clear. | 08:43 |
| mckoan | Letothe2nd: more and more frequently nowadays I think I'd need the help of a 'crystal ball'(TM) | 08:45 |
| mckoan | to understand requests for quotation and tech specs :-D | 08:45 |
| clementp[m] | Letothe2nd: okay i have 50devices on the field and want to check if everything is fine or if they reboot what happened. | 08:46 |
| clementp[m] | They have internet connection and I don't save anything in the flash right now | 08:46 |
| Letothe2nd | clementp[m]: so we are talking about the system logs of the underlying linux, right? | 08:46 |
| clementp[m] | Yes | 08:46 |
| Letothe2nd | sysdig, maybe | 08:47 |
| Letothe2nd | should be in meta-oe | 08:47 |
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| clementp[m] | thanks i will check | 08:54 |
| Dracos-Carazza | maybe zabbix? | 08:55 |
| Dracos-Carazza | eventhough this might be overkill :D | 08:55 |
| Letothe2nd | as usual, it "depends". | 09:06 |
| Letothe2nd | one could also just pipe rsyslog out, AFAIK | 09:07 |
| Dracos-Carazza | yeah thats true... I used zabbix during my time at the institute in order to monitor our development VMs | 09:08 |
| Letothe2nd | nothing wrong with that. | 09:08 |
| Dracos-Carazza | well, "it depends" is really the correct term to describe such a solution :D | 09:10 |
| mckoan | Dracos-Carazza: looks interesting, thank you for sharing | 09:11 |
| kanavin_home | RP: what's the current schedule for running AUH? I couldn't figure this out from the autobuilder. | 09:19 |
| RP | kanavin_home: its manually triggered | 09:19 |
| RP | kanavin_home: We can schedule it if we wanted | 09:19 |
| kanavin_home | RP: right, I guess it's not too much trouble to press the button once a month | 09:20 |
| RP | kanavin_home: we can make it work whichever way we want... | 09:20 |
| kanavin_home | RP: maybe once a month on the 15th would be good, same as before | 09:21 |
| RP | kanavin_home: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/yocto-autobuilder2/commit/?id=6375d089c23ed152c9f647a384c34f9ae875c9dc - not live yet but will get added | 09:25 |
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| chris_ber | I try to create a cmake shared library and got the message: "ERROR: libprom-1.0-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: -dev package contains non-symlink .so: libprom-dev path '........./usr/lib/libprom.so' [dev-elf]" | 09:40 |
| chris_ber | any idea? | 09:41 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: sounds like versioning is not correct | 09:43 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: i think you need to specify the library version so all the naming and symlinking works properly, then it gets packaged as intended. | 09:43 |
| qschulz | chris_ber: libprom.so.1.0 is what your library should be named. Then you can have a symlink libprom.so.1 and libprom.so, which will make it to ${PN}-dev package | 09:45 |
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| chris_ber | ok | 09:48 |
| Letothe2nd | the key point is that the naming works automatically once you properly use cmakes library versioning | 09:51 |
| chris_ber | you talking about the missing version info in the CMakeLists.txt? | 09:55 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: i haven't looked at your cmakelists. jsut saying that if you do things correctly, then they get packaged correctly. | 09:57 |
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| chris_ber | i added in CMakeLists.txt: project(prom VERSION 1.0.0) and got still the saem Problem -> https://bitbin.it/Nj015pMb/ | 10:01 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: can't find it right now, but i guess you need to make sure the SOVERSION and all is set | 10:08 |
| chris_ber | ok | 10:08 |
| rburton | who is arranging the devday at ELC-NA? | 10:11 |
| rburton | i bet Letothe2nd knows | 10:11 |
| Letothe2nd | rburton: i do? | 10:11 |
| rburton | Seemed like the sort of thing you'd know ;) | 10:11 |
| Letothe2nd | rburton: i now whom i would get in touch with if i had something to discuss concerning that, no idea if that also the organizing person :) | 10:12 |
| Letothe2nd | *know | 10:12 |
| rburton | who is that? | 10:12 |
| Letothe2nd | rburton: david reyna | 10:13 |
| rburton | I shall hunt him down later, thanks | 10:13 |
| Letothe2nd | have fun. | 10:13 |
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| chris_ber | Letothe2nd: when i execute cmake itself folowed by make the shared library (incl symlink xx.so-> xx.so.1.0.0) are created. So maybe i missing something in the recipe? any idea? | 10:29 |
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| kroon | RP, regarding the features_check/warn-if-unused thing, could you elaborate on the parsing hit ? I did some before/after measurements but I can't detect any noticeable differences | 11:39 |
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| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: then are you maybe installing to non-canonical places? but no real idea, sorry. | 11:44 |
| chris_ber | ok | 11:46 |
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| RP | kroon: out of interest why couldn't you use BBINCLUDED ? | 11:53 |
| kroon | RP, as I see it, I can only warn of those variables are unset *and* features_check is inherited directly in the .bb file. If its in an .inc it could be false positive (which there are in OE-Core). I don't think that information can be extracted from BBINCLUDED | 11:56 |
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| kroon | RP, for instance there is a "inherit features_check" in xorg-lib-common.inc, but not all xorg bb recipes that include it use the feature check functionality | 11:58 |
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| RP | kroon: the xorg issue looks like its aviodable by checking for None vs "" in the set value? | 12:01 |
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| RP | kroon: I understand why you've built it the way you have but I fear its trying to be a little bit too clever :/ | 12:03 |
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| kroon | RP, xorg was a bad example | 12:06 |
| kroon | RP, I think | 12:06 |
| kroon | RP, libva-initial is another one | 12:06 |
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| kroon | RP, it includes libva.inc, but doesnt set any of the variables | 12:07 |
| RP | kroon: shouldn't that just be cleaned up? | 12:08 |
| kroon | RP, how ? | 12:08 |
| kroon | RP, move the inherit from the inc ? | 12:08 |
| RP | kroon: dropped from libva.inc ? | 12:08 |
| kroon | RP, id say that depends on how recipes include the .inc file | 12:09 |
| kroon | RP, *how many recipes include* | 12:09 |
| RP | kroon: ok, but looking at the way those recipes use the inc, it can be dropped | 12:09 |
| kroon | RP, then there is glib and glibc | 12:09 |
| RP | kroon: glib doesn't use it at a quick glance? | 12:11 |
| kroon | RP, well, glib should just be fixed, right | 12:11 |
| RP | can't spot any glibc usage immediately either | 12:12 |
| kroon | right | 12:12 |
| RP | so we just fix those? | 12:12 |
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| kroon | RP, ya, and bluez5 | 12:14 |
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| ka6sox | Good Morning, If you want to use cve-check.bbclass what is the best practice for adding cve-update-db in Zeus? | 13:25 |
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| rburton | the class is already in zeus isn't it? | 13:34 |
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| ka6sox | yes, the class is there but to use it there is a cve-update-db recipe. what I'm trying to understand is if the parser knows that needs to be run first or you need a separate build to update the db. | 13:39 |
| rburton | the class knows to run the tool | 13:40 |
| neverpanic | mcfrisk: ^? | 13:40 |
| chris_ber | hwen i have to versions of my recipe: app_0.0.1.bb and app_0.0.2.bb how can i instruct bitbake to install one specific version? | 13:46 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: PREFERRED_VERSION, see ref-manual | 13:47 |
| chris_ber | o | 13:47 |
| chris_ber | ok | 13:49 |
| qschulz | chris_ber: in your distro conf file or machine conf file, elsewhere it has no effect | 13:52 |
| Letothe2nd | qschulz: hey you just ruined the fun! | 13:54 |
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| qschulz | Letothe2nd: sorry, I foresaw the next question :) | 13:59 |
| Letothe2nd | qschulz: i did too, yet i remained purposefully silent | 14:03 |
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| armpit | I am adding dunfell to patchwork | 14:21 |
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| chris_ber | Does somebody experienced the same? changes in CMakeLists.txt (e.g. changing SOVERSION) are unrecognized. When i update the content of the recipe it will be | 15:33 |
| Letothe2nd | chris_ber: is it still a combined metadata-source thing? | 15:35 |
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| chris_ber | you don't wanna hear this: yes | 15:36 |
| Letothe2nd | then you screwed yourself. | 15:36 |
| Letothe2nd | even if you don't wanna hear it | 15:36 |
| qschulz | chris_ber: you probably have used devtool before right and forgot to reset? | 15:36 |
| qschulz | or forgot you reset and still use devtool workspace | 15:36 |
| Letothe2nd | reason: bitbake looks at the recipe, sees no change, decides not to act. | 15:37 |
| chris_ber | qschulz: no, i am not using devtool | 15:37 |
| Letothe2nd | if you had followed given advice (separate repo, or at least EXTERNALSRC) it would have worked. | 15:37 |
| qschulz | chris_ber: what do you have in SRC_URI? | 15:37 |
| Letothe2nd | blame your wasted time at your unwillingness to listen, then. | 15:37 |
| chris_ber | glob | 15:37 |
| Letothe2nd | and with that, i call it a day. | 15:37 |
| qschulz | chris_ber: there is no glob support in SRC_URI | 15:38 |
| qschulz | we told you yesterday | 15:38 |
| qschulz | files or directories only | 15:38 |
| qschulz | the issue is that Yocto pulls the files correctly the first time (not even guaranteed?) but the files aren't watched over | 15:39 |
| qschulz | when you're using a glob | 15:39 |
| chris_ber | tomorrow i restart over and do it your way. i am sick of getting results and got stuck in another place. | 15:39 |
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| qschulz | chris_ber: whatever suits you best. You need to give directories and files to SRC_URI only, explicitely, not with glob or regexp. If you just explicit them, you can keep your (bad practice) current way of doing it | 15:42 |
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| lukma | Maybe a strange question - I'm using podman/docker to build Yocto with some older OSes | 16:09 |
| lukma | The problem is that I need to build it as root (as this avoids a lot of issues with UID/GID mismatches on namespaces and mount directories) | 16:09 |
| lukma | I do know that just running bitbake as root is forbidden and can be fixed with using: | 16:09 |
| lukma | meta/conf/sanity.conf (#INHERIT += "sanity") | 16:09 |
| lukma | But is there any plan to make it optional (as use case in containers)? | 16:09 |
| neverpanic | lukma: Running builds as root hides operations that are not properly run under pseudo, Yocto's fakeroot implementation. | 16:12 |
| neverpanic | When running builds as user, such issues will be caught by a sanity check. | 16:12 |
| paulbarker | lukma: Have you looked into the CROPS containers? They're designed to fix exactly that issue | 16:12 |
| paulbarker | A startup script in the container ensures uids/gids match | 16:13 |
| smurray | or JPEW's pyrex tooling | 16:13 |
| JPEW | lukma: Pyrex is designed to preserve the proper permissions of your user when running bitbake in a container | 16:14 |
| JPEW | lukma: https://github.com/garmin/pyrex | 16:20 |
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| rburton | lukma: also some upstream packages *refuse* to build if root, if you want more reasons to run builds as non-root user | 18:20 |
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| * Letothe2nd gets beer, starts late shift. | 18:45 | |
| * qschulz should really leave the office now :) | 18:46 | |
| Letothe2nd | qschulz: alone there? best time to get $stuff done! | 18:46 |
| qschulz | 9pm before a holiday? sure thing I'm alone at the office | 18:47 |
| Letothe2nd | best time to get $STUFF done. | 18:47 |
| Letothe2nd | happy dance due to random click: git blame annotations in vs code. /me likes! | 18:53 |
| khem | smurray: or yoe distro also uses docker container :) | 19:02 |
| Letothe2nd | kas also supports docker | 19:05 |
| Letothe2nd | i think its harder to find proper project not relying on a docker build than those which do these times. | 19:05 |
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| khem | yeah building master I prefer to use archlinux, but for releases docker is so much better, I can still use archlinux of today to build morty | 19:15 |
| khem | its that pill which gets sweeter with time :) | 19:16 |
| smurray | heh | 19:16 |
| smurray | I do my own tinkering with master on Fedora if it's not broken, otherwise a debian stable container | 19:17 |
| khem | broken ? fedora or OE or both | 19:18 |
| smurray | khem: e.g. the occasional bleeding edge brokenness like gcc 10 in F32 | 19:22 |
| khem | ah yes | 19:23 |
| khem | yeah someone has to fix them and unfortunately its some of us at that edge | 19:23 |
| khem | in my experiments I see systemd images have 30MB extra ram usage compared to sysvinit | 19:24 |
| khem | regardless of musl or glibc | 19:25 |
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| smurray | khem: runtime, you mean? | 19:33 |
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| khem | yes | 19:41 |
| khem | so certainly not a lot of you have modern machines, but still a lot if you have 32MB flash and 128MB DRAM parts | 19:42 |
| smurray | khem: yeah. Is it spread around, or does e.g. journald seem to be larger than expected? | 19:45 |
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| khem | its spread | 19:50 |
| khem | its fresh isntall so journald is not housing much | 19:50 |
| smurray | gotcha | 19:55 |
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| paulg | v5.2.x SRBDS released, for all those who monitor CVEs. https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/linux-yocto/message/8744 | 21:45 |
| paulg | https://www.vusec.net/projects/crosstalk/ <------ CVE-2020-0543 | 21:47 |
| paulg | the v5.4.x and v5.7.x can be found in the "normal" integrations of linux-stable that zeddii does. | 21:49 |
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| armpit | paulg, thanks | 23:21 |
| paulg | armpit, as always I'm glad to see it used. There have even been side benefits, like finding backport issues in v5.4 | 23:27 |
| paulg | https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg392076.html | 23:27 |
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