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mckoan | good morning | 06:48 |
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yann | oh, "Running setscene task 3057 of 219", really ? :) | 13:04 |
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yann | the cooker output shows "Running task 367 of 1011" and the next one is "Running setscene task 1400 of 219" (on dunfell) | 13:05 |
RP | yann: its a known issue, not sure if there is a bug open for it | 13:06 |
yann | oh ok | 13:06 |
RP | yann: the task counts are right, the setscene ones can't be really | 13:06 |
RP | its due to hash equivlance | 13:06 |
yann | RP: I'm reducing the testcase for the meson bug when configuring mesa - it's likely to be small :) | 13:08 |
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RP | seebs: happen to be around? I have a new pseudo issue which I've mostly debugged for your entertainment ;-) | 16:55 |
seebs | oh no | 16:55 |
seebs | i'm sort of around, which is to say, i'm on hold | 16:56 |
seebs | i keep thinking any day now i'll have free time and catch up on my backlog, then Things Happen | 16:56 |
RP | seebs: We're seeing machines where the xattr functions are failing with ENOSYS | 16:56 |
seebs | like, the pseudo ones, or the underlying system ones? | 16:57 |
RP | seebs: that can only happen if real_fsetxattr is null. | 16:57 |
fray | I've seen that when people try to use xattr on (via pseudo) on filesystems w/o xattr support | 16:57 |
RP | seebs: its the enosys message from pseudo | 16:57 |
fray | ahh sounds different from when I saw it.. had to tell the people to use a real FS | 16:57 |
RP | seebs: the issue is that dlsym() isn't finding fsetxattr and friends in some cases | 16:57 |
RP | seebs: interestingly dlerror() isn't set | 16:58 |
RP | seebs: I then discovered that dlsym *is* finding a null symbol in libacl which is the one for fsetxattr in libattr | 16:59 |
seebs | oh weird. | 16:59 |
RP | seebs: behaving as defined in the man page :/ | 16:59 |
RP | seebs: I can "fix" this by adding "GLIBC_2.3" versions to our xattr function entries | 16:59 |
RP | seebs: it does raise a new question though - so we need to wrap the functions in libattr :/ | 17:00 |
RP | s/so/do/ | 17:00 |
seebs | i don't know what libattr does. if it's calling libc functions, then we probably want to just skip past it to the glibc versions, because its functions just call ours, i guess? but i don't really know. hmm. | 17:01 |
RP | seebs: I think this only happens if we haven't bound the symbols in libacl. If we have, we find those, things "work" | 17:01 |
seebs | so, why does libattr have null values for these symbols, and why is it linked? | 17:02 |
RP | seebs: I haven't looked at libattr yet. I was wondering if you happened to know. That is my next step I guess | 17:02 |
seebs | haven't really been attached to this stuff for a while. these days i'm mostly doing performance stuff in Go, which is definitely a very different world. | 17:03 |
RP | seebs: libacl links to libattr. I think the null entries are the unresolved function pointers in libacl to libattr | 17:03 |
RP | seebs: I'm way out my normal comfort zone as well... | 17:03 |
RP | seebs: Some good news from libattr: | 17:04 |
RP | * These dumb wrappers are for backwards compatibility only. | 17:04 |
RP | * Actual syscall wrappers are long gone to libc. | 17:04 |
seebs | i wonder if we can just not-link-with libattr. | 17:05 |
RP | seebs: which I think makes http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=0d5960dcace84a81ea896efa20866218384910e0 a reasonable fix? | 17:05 |
seebs | my concern would be that if the symbols change versions in glibc, we might lose later, but i guess they should stay compatible for a while? | 17:06 |
seebs | i seem to recall having had some prior issues with libattr being Annoying in some way. | 17:06 |
RP | seebs: they seem to have been around forever and not changed... | 17:06 |
seebs | yeah, fair enough. i think the GLIBC_2.3 versions should stay visible for quite a while. | 17:06 |
seebs | my guess is that at some point pseudo will need to be replaced by something not relying on LD_PRELOAD, and that something like jail/container behavior would be better, but it may take some doing to get there. | 17:07 |
RP | seebs: I'll tidy this all up, I guess I'm just wondering if there is anything obvious I've missed and if this is the right way to fix the issue | 17:07 |
RP | seebs: ultimately there may be other ways but not easily without root privs :/ | 17:08 |
seebs | Yeah, I think all the debugger-like stuff tends to require at least the option of getting privileges. | 17:08 |
seebs | And definitely potentially hurts performance. | 17:08 |
RP | seebs: we've seen this one occasionally for a while, I just had a reproducible test case today to poke at which helps a lot | 17:09 |
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seebs | i am not entirely opposed to Go's "we just make syscalls directly" philosophical stance, but it does mean it'll be basically impossible to make any go programs work under pseudo. | 17:10 |
RP | seebs: right, I can understand it but its problematic for us | 17:11 |
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seebs | yeah. i don't really see a fix that isn't basically "become a debugger or require a way to at least transiently have root-like privs". | 17:12 |
smurray | I'm still holding out hope that advocates for non-privileged containers might get there eventually | 17:15 |
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sno | otavio: to your question whether it's sane to extract some common usable to an -fslc branch - I talked to a colleague this afternoon and we realized, that there is no reasonable QorIQ / fsl-lsch3 community | 17:20 |
sno | otavio: we're more or less on our own and stumble forward at our best ;) | 17:21 |
sno | otavio: but bringing everything as much as upriver as we can is one of our personal goals | 17:22 |
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moto-timo | Shouldn't /tmp be getting created by initrdscripts ? | 17:57 |
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otavio | sno: awesome. When you think it is time, let me know | 17:57 |
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moto-timo | I've got an initramfs-framework script (inherited from refkit) that does headers=$(mnktemp) but this fails because /tmp does not exist | 17:58 |
moto-timo | ^$(mktemp) | 17:58 |
otavio | moto-timo: the framework base, I think, does it | 17:58 |
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moto-timo | otavio: I don't see it in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-core/initrdscripts/initramfs-framework/init#n81 | 18:00 |
moto-timo | otavio: found it http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-core/initrdscripts/files/init-install-efi.sh#n141 | 18:07 |
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Letothe2nd | is there any metric available on sstate/downloads reuse? | 19:04 |
Letothe2nd | other than the rather coarse "x tasks not needed" | 19:04 |
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kanavin_home | aaaand here we have it https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ | 19:12 |
kanavin_home | not great news for linux, that | 19:14 |
* Letothe2nd shrugs | 19:14 | |
neverpanic | not sure, I'm guessing it may actually be good news for Linux because it'll get significant testing on aarch64? | 19:16 |
neverpanic | and be it just for docker containers | 19:17 |
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kanavin_home | neverpanic: I can imagine Apple will only allow linux in a VM, and lock down the hardware completely otherwise, so no baremetal linux | 19:31 |
kanavin_home | neverpanic: this is move away from being able to run linux anywhere where you want it to, not towards it | 19:32 |
kanavin_home | and aarch64 testing is already more or less covered with raspberry pi | 19:33 |
neverpanic | Lots of people run 32bit userland on Raspis | 19:34 |
kanavin_home | yeah, but 64bit is now fully useable, no? | 19:34 |
neverpanic | Good point, however, secure boot on ARM may not be as flexible with machine owner keys as x86_64 | 19:34 |
neverpanic | Yes. | 19:34 |
RP | kanavin_home, rburton, sakoman: master now has a fix for the infradead server outage, useful to stop test builds failing | 19:39 |
sakoman | Thanks! | 19:40 |
RP | sakoman: I can pull that straight onto the 1.46 branch if you want, its at least straight forward to test... | 19:40 |
sakoman | Yes, please do! | 19:41 |
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rabbit9911 | Has anyone noticed that toaster reports the machine as the machine configured in local.conf even when using multiconfig with a different machine? | 19:53 |
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sakoman | RP: thanks! | 20:08 |
kanavin_home | RP: thanks, we can wait and see if mtd-utils recipe needs some kind of SRC_URI fix | 20:16 |
RP | kanavin_home: the mirror repo is really just there for the fetcher issues. As you say, with mtd-utils we'll have to wait and see | 20:18 |
RP | the fetcher test issues | 20:19 |
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JPEW | Is virgl broken on dunfell? I keep getting "failed to open radeonsi" | 20:27 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: it is tested on the AB | 20:29 |
JPEW | Hmm | 20:47 |
JPEW | It's definitely failing on my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop | 20:47 |
JPEW | Can't find drmSyncobjQuery2 | 20:50 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: full error messages please :) | 20:50 |
JPEW | kanavin_home: https://pastebin.com/YLFmjUmv | 20:53 |
JPEW | With LD_DEBUG=symbols, it give a little more useful: 20516:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_amdgpu.so.1: error: symbol lookup error: undefined symbol: drmSyncobjQuery2 (fatal) | 20:54 |
JPEW | kanavin_home: Ah, I might have it. thats in a newer libdrm, but I think I forgot to rebuild qemu-helper-native after the upgrade | 21:00 |
kanavin_home | JPEW, yes, I was getting to the point where I would say that libdrm in yocto is older than the one on the host, and lacks the needed symbol | 21:01 |
kanavin_home | you need 101 or 102 | 21:01 |
RP | kanavin_home: I think with the tweak I just found we can upgrade qemu | 21:01 |
JPEW | kanavin_home: Right, I did that and assumed qemu would rebuild, but apparently it did not :) | 21:02 |
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kanavin_home | RP: nice, and Armin sent bind updates as well | 21:02 |
RP | kanavin_home: How many upgrades is AUH saying are pending now? :) | 21:03 |
kanavin_home | RP: I have a stash of updates here http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=akanavin/package-version-updates | 21:04 |
kanavin_home | (still clinging to a belief that 'maintainers' would act on at least some of them in the next few days) | 21:04 |
kanavin_home | with those included, and bind/qemu excluded, it's vulkan... and not much else :) | 21:05 |
kanavin_home | oh, and mesa | 21:05 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: we probably should upgrade libdrm in dunfell then? | 21:06 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: I am rather curious, are you experimenting with virgl, or putting it into use? | 21:06 |
RP | kanavin_home: nice, mostly small version deltas too | 21:06 |
JPEW | kanavin_home: We use it to do development off-hardware with i386 | 21:07 |
kanavin_home | RP: yeah I run them through the AB today, only elfutils needs further fixing | 21:07 |
JPEW | kanavin_home: We also boot it with u-boot, which is also broken for some reason :) | 21:07 |
JPEW | sakoman, kanavin_home: Yes, I think we need to upgrade libdrm in dunfell | 21:09 |
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JPEW | kanavin_home: A, u-boot isn't broken, it was just the graphics. I can confirm that upgrading to 2.4.102 fixes it | 21:17 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: I am more surpised that ubuntu 18.04 has something this recent, but maybe it's part of their hardware enablement stack that they keep current | 21:19 |
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JPEW | kanavin_home: Ya, looks like it's because of the AMD drivers | 21:19 |
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JPEW | blerg. Anyone tried to compile the latest luaposix? It looks like they completely gave up on cross compiling support :( | 21:21 |
kanavin_home | JPEW: lucky you have AMD card. Here they decided everyone should have nvidia, and nouveau is very slow :( | 21:22 |
kanavin_home | I am torn between adding support for the blob to yocto's virgl setup, or just declaring the linus thing | 21:22 |
kanavin_home | https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=linus+torvalds+nvidia | 21:23 |
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mranostay | kanavin_home: nouveau is okay if you only do web browsing other than that :) | 21:24 |
kanavin_home | mranostay: it becomes less okay on UHD resolutions :( | 21:25 |
kanavin_home | noticeably laggy even with regular desktop things | 21:25 |
mranostay | yeah last time i used it like 4-5 years ago it was pretty unusable | 21:34 |
RP | tgamblin__: FWIW I sent a patch to try and improve logging for the 1 != 2 error for rndCmd stdin | 21:38 |
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RP | tgamblin__: Actually, I can make it fail | 21:44 |
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RP | tgamblin__: I'll send a patch. Now you get to fix one of my bugs in return, right? :) | 21:55 |
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tgamblin__ | RP: take your pick :) | 22:02 |
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RP | armpit: I think we may need dhcpcd in OE-Core to replace dhcp-client? :/ | 22:27 |
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armpit | RP, atleast dhcpcd is maintained | 22:57 |
* armpit needs to look into more things | 22:58 | |
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