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| beratiks | Hi guys. Do you know that can I compile "gstreamer1.0-vaapi" for imx8 with thud branch? Is supported? Because now I am getting error. Is this only for intel? | 05:29 |
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| Letothe2nd | beratiks: "getting error" is not exactly a helpful problem desctiption. | 06:41 |
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| beratiks | Letothe2nd: co_compile error and give out a lot of stuff like syntaxs | 06:47 |
| beratiks | I thinks vaapi is not compatible imx8qxp | 06:47 |
| Letothe2nd | thats a possible reason. | 06:47 |
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| Letothe2nd | mckoan: howdy! | 06:48 |
| mckoan | good morning | 06:48 |
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| Letothe2nd | RP: ping - for the weekly stats report, please change my livecoding url to https://www.twitch.tv/theyoctojester - thanks. | 07:24 |
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| RP | Letothe2nd: updated | 07:26 |
| Letothe2nd | RP: thx | 07:26 |
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| alejandrohs | mckoan: morning | 07:32 |
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| rburton | kanavin_home: good news! rpm 4.16 supports sqlite for the database | 10:14 |
| rburton | kanavin_home: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Sqlite_Rpmdb has details of f33 moving | 10:16 |
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| kanavin_home | rburton: not quite, I think sqlite in 4.16 is still marked experimental, but ndb is considered stable. Bdb is deprecated (yay). | 10:38 |
| rburton | if f33 are moving to sqlite then i'd consider that backend the best tested when f33 is released | 10:39 |
| kanavin_home | of course, I am just saying what rpm 4.16 release notes say | 10:39 |
| kanavin_home | let's keep track of fedora's rpm.spec options and settings then | 10:40 |
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| nameclash | does anyone know why the crops/poky-container keeps prompting me for the sudo password (that I don't know)? looking at https://github.com/crops/poky-container/blob/master/sudoers.usersetup I thought it is set up to not prompt for sudo? | 11:23 |
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| paulbarker | nameclash: Which command are you trying to run by sudo? | 11:24 |
| nameclash | I'm trying to install a yocto sdk to /opt | 11:24 |
| paulbarker | nameclash: That won't work. Those sudoers entries you're looking at only allow the commands which are explicitly listed | 11:25 |
| nameclash | ah ok | 11:25 |
| paulbarker | You can use `docker exec -u 0 ....` to run a command as root inside an existing container, or you can write your own Dockerfile to create a new container image from poky-container with your extra dependencies installed | 11:26 |
| nameclash | ok, thx | 11:27 |
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| yann | I have a bitbake process stuck after hitting disk-full condition - is there any way I can query the server process what it's still thinking it's doing ? | 12:22 |
| kroon | yann, hold on | 12:23 |
| kroon | yann, https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13843 | 12:24 |
| kroon | yann, if the process is still alive you can attach with gdb and use "py-bt" | 12:25 |
| yann | kroon: I pasted the last lines output and the current process tree at https://pastebin.com/hrLAagfd - any guess as to which pid will be most useful to dig into ? | 12:28 |
| kroon | yann, in my case there was a worker process left using all CPU, do you have any of those ? | 12:30 |
| kroon | using all cpu that is | 12:30 |
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| yann | no, there's one (see paste) but not doing much apparently | 12:31 |
| hyper_dave | Is it a good idea to build yocto images inside arch? | 12:31 |
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| hyper_dave | Should I use a container? | 12:32 |
| yann | hm, debian's gdb would not have python support ? | 12:33 |
| kroon | yann, sorry, i don't have a good idea on what to inspect then, maybe RP has some idea | 12:34 |
| kroon | yann, you might need to install some additional package | 12:34 |
| kroon | yann, python3 debug info iirc | 12:34 |
| kroon | yann, yeah, at least that is required on Fedora 32 | 12:39 |
| yann | right, that's python3-dbg | 12:40 |
| qschulz | Any reason for having openssl 1.0.2 named openssl in meta-openssl102? We effectively lose the ability to have both openssl10 and openssl in the same build. | 12:41 |
| kanavin_home | I think this was never intended, and meta-openssl102 is meant to exclude 1.1 entirely from builds | 12:48 |
| yann | kroon: I've pasted all thread backtraces at https://pastebin.com/MbxeatC8 - without any clue on bitbake's inner workings I can't see what's pathological in there | 12:48 |
| qschulz | kanavin_home: it was never intended to support both versions of openssl in the same build? that's what you meant? | 12:51 |
| kroon | yann, FWIW, I'd put that in a text file and attach it to the bug, or perhaps file a new | 12:59 |
| yann | yes, a new one could be worth | 12:59 |
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| RP | yann: bitbake really doesn't like running out of space :( It can be hard to figure out where its locked up like that :( | 13:05 |
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| yann | RP: so is it useful to open a new bugreport ? | 13:06 |
| RP | yann: Its probably worth documenting that there is an issue but realistically, I can't see anyone with time to look into that any time soon :( | 13:07 |
| RP | yann: there are other more serious issues that need attention and too few people to look at issues like that | 13:07 |
| yann | just adding this to kroon's report then | 13:07 |
| RP | yann: please make it a separate bug, its a different issue | 13:08 |
| yann | k | 13:08 |
| RP | multiple different issues in the same bug becomes a nightmare | 13:08 |
| RP | I appreciate there is potentially a connection here | 13:08 |
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| akane | hi - i have my own BSP layer which specifies a version. When from another layers conf I do LAYERDEPENDS_mylayer = "core bsp:1" I receive an error message. When I remove the version from bsp I do not receive the error message | 14:01 |
| akane | Why is this happening? Thanks | 14:01 |
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| qschulz | akane: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-LAYERDEPENDS | 14:02 |
| qschulz | bsp (=1) I guess? | 14:02 |
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| akane | => qschulz - that fixed it - was looking at the wrong version of the mega manual - thanks | 14:03 |
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| qschulz | akane: my pleasure :) | 14:06 |
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| kanavin_home | qschulz: I do not know that for sure, but trying to mix openssl 1.0 and 1.1 quickly leads into trouble, as you are likely to run into a situation where both versions are attempted to be installed into a component sysroot, and the filenames clash | 14:14 |
| kanavin_home | (filenames of headers, .pc files) | 14:14 |
| qschulz | kanavin_home: the current situation is that I actually manage to build SW with a dependency on openssl10-native but once running extend_sysroot or something like that from the staging.bbclass, something attempts to install openssl headers into the sysroot-native which are obviously already there because of openssl10-native DEPENDS | 14:21 |
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| kanavin_home | qschulz: yeah, so you need to stick to openssl 1.0, which is troublesome because its out of support | 14:25 |
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| qschulz | yeah no, not going to happen for the reasons you stated :) I managed to remove the useless openssl10-native dependency (was needlessly brought up by some recipe) but I'm pretty sure it'll bite back soon enough | 14:27 |
| qschulz | now, I can understand it's impossible... but I really want to understand what's happening during this extend_sysroot function from staging class because it seems very weird to have something be appended to recipe-sysroot-native **after** it's been used for the recipe | 14:28 |
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| dreyna | test | 14:49 |
| dreyna | THe YP booth at ELC is open! Several people have already stooped by. Come say hello and chat with us and visitors, and share about YP | 14:50 |
| dreyna | s/stooped/stopped | 14:50 |
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| RP | dreyna: do we want to focus people to the booth or the slack channel? | 15:05 |
| Letothe2nd | slack please | 15:05 |
| dreyna | yes, probably slack since it is more persistent | 15:05 |
| Letothe2nd | the chat interface is awful. and i think only available during the "breaks" anyways, right? | 15:05 |
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| mcfrisk | hi, has anyone managed to build chromium or chromium-ozone-wayland from meta-browser with SoC specific graphics, without mesa? Looks like several things expect mesa details like dri.pc.. or I've screwed up the build feature config. | 15:14 |
| rabbit9911 | There is a yocto slack group? | 15:26 |
| rburton | there's an ELC/OSS slack for the conference | 15:26 |
| Letothe2nd | rabbit9911: not exactly, there is one for the currently ongoing ELC/OSS | 15:26 |
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| RP | hmm, https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/60/builds/2081 is another weird failure. Something sending out SIGTERM to the wrong things? :/ | 15:56 |
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| moto-timo | booth is fairly quiet. And we've had a couple drive-bys that didn't stay long enough to engage | 17:40 |
| RP | moto-timo: there are too many channels for information | 17:43 |
| moto-timo | RP: including this one today :) | 17:43 |
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| rburton | if someone has a qemu to hand, can you run "qemu-system-aarch64 --machine help" and pastebin the output? | 18:25 |
| rburton | my qemu is the wrong side of a vpn right now | 18:25 |
| PaowZ | rburton: https://pastebin.com/nZbjaUei | 18:27 |
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| rburton | thanks! | 18:30 |
| PaowZ | rburton: no pb | 18:30 |
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| rabbit9911 | Some communities have moved to discord over slack because its free. Has anyone in the yocto community looked at discord? | 19:54 |
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| zeddii | discord makes me wish for death | 20:02 |
| RP | zeddii: I'm quite happy with irc | 20:09 |
| rabbit9911 | zeddii: So.. it reminds you of heaven? | 20:09 |
| zeddii | RP: agreed :D | 20:11 |
| rabbit9911 | I just keep getting disconnected from IRC then I have to go back to the logs to see what was said. Just spoiled by systems like slack.. but slack is not free. | 20:11 |
| RP | zeddii: seriously, did you ever see any upstream fix for that make race kernel issue. We seem to be hitting it a lot. We need to try and reduce the number of intermittent failures as a matter of urgency as together they're causing problems :/ | 20:12 |
| zeddii | RP: no, nothing found yet. | 20:12 |
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| zeddii | I was poking at it today though. | 20:12 |
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| RP | zeddii: ok, cool, thanks. I spent half the weekend poking at other things and they're proving frustrating | 20:13 |
| RP | seems as soon as I fix one, something else pops up too :( | 20:13 |
| zeddii | I have that + the ARM32 bit go build failures to sort out before I can finish my v5.8 kernel stuff, so I'm feeling the same. | 20:13 |
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| khem | RP: what is the race you are seeing ? | 20:41 |
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| RP | khem: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=AB-INT are our intermittent issues | 20:52 |
| RP | khem: or you mean the new ones we don't have bugs for? | 20:53 |
| RP | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/60/builds/2081 and https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/87/builds/1085 puzzle us | 20:53 |
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| khem | RP: I was interested in kernel one | 21:35 |
| RP | khem: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13924 | 21:36 |
| khem | RP: is it happening on hosts with gcc10 natively | 21:37 |
| khem | its due to -fcommon being default | 21:37 |
| khem | I mean -fno-common being default | 21:38 |
| khem | so add -fcommon to host cc flags | 21:39 |
| RP | zeddii: can you reproduce/test that? | 21:42 |
| zeddii | I already have the kernel fix in the tree for that. | 21:44 |
| zeddii | we don't need to futz with flags | 21:44 |
| zeddii | IIRC you already have my latest. that being said, I can send you new SRCREVs and we can see if the fix holds. | 21:45 |
| RP | zeddii: I'm not sure we do. Steve was saying we needed to update some SRCREVs | 21:45 |
| RP | Perhaps this is where we're going wrong | 21:45 |
| zeddii | I have a stack of 6 -stable bumps that I've tested locally. I can send them out. | 21:46 |
| RP | zeddii: I think we need to ensure we bump meta-yocto-bsp too | 21:46 |
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| RP | zeddii: but yes, please | 21:47 |
| zeddii | yep. otherwise, the reference will continue to show it. | 21:47 |
| zeddii | I'll confirm I have all the -f*common changes, and will bump them. | 21:47 |
| zeddii | I'll send it late tonight, so you can try it in your morning. | 21:47 |
| RP | zeddii: sounds good thanks | 21:51 |
| RP | I think that will help sakoman too | 21:51 |
| khem | this will be issue on all older kernels I believe. so using f32 as host will be PITA | 21:56 |
| khem | I looked at 50+ packages breaking builds when I turned it off in gcc10 by default. | 21:56 |
| khem | Lets others do the work :) | 21:57 |
| * armpit hides | 22:05 | |
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| RP | sakoman: I'd ask kanavin_home if he remembers that ubuntu virgl error cause :/ | 22:39 |
| sakoman | RP: it is possibly ubuntu version related | 22:40 |
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| sakoman | RP: I'll ping him when he returns | 22:43 |
| sakoman | Once you've rebooted I may try doing another couple builds to 16.04 and 18.04 to see if 16.04 still succeeds and 18.04 still fails | 22:45 |
| RP | sakoman: I won't reboot until my morning so feel free to run them | 22:46 |
| RP | well, just restart the controller | 22:46 |
| RP | (process) | 22:46 |
| sakoman | OK will do | 22:48 |
| RP | sakoman: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=1ec91031165f8801eeb5662aa98c73dc6be88cc1 maybe ? | 22:48 |
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| RP | sakoman: look at the surrounding changes too :/ | 22:48 |
| sakoman | Ah yes, a possibility! | 22:49 |
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| sakoman | RP: testing now on a 20.04 worker with those three patches. Fingers crossed . . . | 22:57 |
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| jpuhlman | RP: Question on bugzilla bugs. A bug was reported on an earlier release. Currently it has a 3.2 milestone, however the code has been updated that its obsolete in 3.2, but its still an issue in the older release. What is the correct resolution? | 23:02 |
| jpuhlman | The actual release it was reported on is no longer supported even via community. | 23:04 |
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| paulg | dunno about "official policy" but I'd be personally wondering about whether there was an isolated commit that could be backported, or if a pkg-uprev was the only way to deal with the issue.... | 23:08 |
| jpuhlman | paulg: If that was at me, update is not likely the right word, completely reworked such that the failing recipe no longer even exists. | 23:11 |
| paulg | jpuhlman, yeah - that is tougher - if it isn't even a patch to a pkg, but the original recipe is gone for the old pkg, then IMHO - if it was my project -- it would become "Won't Fix" | 23:12 |
| paulg | unless an older release had the same issue on the older pkg, and say, it was a CVE, and that older release was still "maintained". | 23:13 |
| paulg | jpuhlman, do you have a bugzilla link that you are able to share for more context? | 23:14 |
| jpuhlman | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11351 | 23:14 |
| * paulg reads | 23:15 | |
| jpuhlman | Basically go-bootstap-native has been nuked from orbit and a binary replacement has been pulled in. It basically dosen't build the bootstrap any more we cheat. | 23:15 |
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| jpuhlman | I haven't dug in to the history to see when the transision took place but the original was 2.3 | 23:16 |
| paulg | ugh - I had the misfortune of dealing with go bootstrap stuff several years ago. | 23:18 |
| paulg | there were no easy solutions back then. | 23:18 |
| paulg | I'm pretty sure we can rule this out as NOT being a "single commit backport CVE instance".... | 23:19 |
| jpuhlman | Yeah its always been a bear. | 23:19 |
| paulg | jpuhlman, ok - sorry to waste your time ; in this instance I'm pretty sure I've got no pro solution for you. :-/ | 23:20 |
| paulg | maybe someone else reading can? | 23:20 |
| * paulg normally hides in kernel cobwebs. | 23:21 | |
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| jpuhlman | No worries. Like I said for 3.2 its fixed, which is what the milestone is set to. Since is really a reorganization, moving it backwards is not likely correct either. | 23:23 |
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| paulg | I hate things with unreasonable and/or cross-compile unfriendly demands like "help2man". | 23:32 |
| paulg | making me kill it with fire. https://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/88533/ | 23:34 |
| smurray | I sometimes wonder how many projects actually have users using man pages on target | 23:34 |
| paulg | don't care. It still should be a working option. Yocto isn't all embedded targets. | 23:35 |
| smurray | yeah, I know | 23:35 |
| smurray | don't think I've ever worked on a project that used the doc packages, though | 23:39 |
| fray | smurray it's interesting, I keep getting requests for man pages, especially on network programs.. especially 'ip', route and similar.. | 23:41 |
| jpuhlman | smurray: More often then not its part of the --make-customer-happy option. | 23:41 |
| fray | seems like it's a short cut way to document the tool on the target for network devices without resorting to Cisco style IOS interfaces | 23:41 |
| smurray | fray: heh, that is interesting | 23:41 |
| paulg | a bunch of years back I worked on making an installable version of a "server" install based on yocto (SDK/self-hosting) | 23:42 |
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| smurray | fray: the large network equipment distro I worked on had its own CLI with its own help system | 23:42 |
| paulg | I believe all the history is in https://github.com/OverC/meta-overc.git | 23:42 |
| smurray | yeah, I looked at it one point | 23:42 |
| paulg | I was focused on making the CLI env not suck - working git, working manpages etc. ; zeddii then took that and added gfx/X11 | 23:43 |
| fray | smurray I've been working with (as in a customer of) Ubiquity networks, ya I know not same level as Juniper or Cisco.. but they just use standard Linux tooling for command line -- their UI is all web based.. | 23:43 |
| paulg | and a bunch of those changes fed back directly into oe/yocto - so IMHO time not wasted. | 23:43 |
| paulg | commit deecd4314939268be94e3185239cd7e0c7e6dbf7 | 23:44 |
| paulg | Author: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.co | 23:44 |
| paulg | Date: Sat Feb 14 10:18:12 2015 -0500 | 23:44 |
| paulg | git-manpages: remove recipe ; merged upstream | 23:44 |
| paulg | overc commit that now everyone gets to use. | 23:44 |
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| paulg | making vim and/or "top" not suck - I believe those went to yocto/OE too? | 23:46 |
| smurray | I can imagine the usecases. Was just an idle thought on my part given statements of there not being a lot of dev resources | 23:46 |
| smurray | I'll retreat to my cave now | 23:46 |
| fray | on the uqiquity side I can run ip, route, ifconfig, iptables, etc and adjust things and my changes show up in the UI.. it's REALLY slick.. | 23:46 |
| paulg | smurray, no - it is all good - I am sure you aren't the only one, and it is a good dialog. | 23:47 |
| fray | yup | 23:47 |
| paulg | yocto does itself a dis-service if everyone thinks it is for flash install on non-x86 with 128MB ram. | 23:48 |
| smurray | I don't disagree with that, but the project doesn't really market itself at all, and there are significant challenges once you require much beyond oe-core & meta-oe | 23:52 |
| smurray | err, market itself for that at all | 23:52 |
| paulg | yeah, I can't argue with that. | 23:53 |
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| smurray | fray: I sort of gave up on Ubiquity after they blew off all requests for source for their (now dropped) powerbar products. That kind of left me with a bad impression, even though I do hear good stuff re the access points | 23:57 |
| smurray | s/Ubiquity/Ubuiqiti/ | 23:57 |
| paulg | kinda thought people were smart enough now to toss a turdburger ftp site out there with un-compile-able code by now. | 23:58 |
| paulg | lessons learned by Linksys on the WRT54G like 15y ago.... | 23:58 |
| fray | Ya, last ubquity stuff I used was years ago.. (10 or so).. | 23:59 |
| fray | the new stuff seems way better.. and frankly I got tired of building my own stuff that 'mostly' worked | 23:59 |
| paulg | ooh! build 3.18 + binary radio blobs for my phone! I can't wait! | 23:59 |
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