| sadmac | what's the status of rust support? Stuff about bringing it into oe-core seems to have quieted since February, but meta-rust itself doesn't have branches for recent releases. | 00:00 |
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| khem | sadmac: rust follows its own release schedule and meta-rust roughly follows that | 00:07 |
| khem | sadmac:usually rust does not have many dependencies on rest of OE system | 00:08 |
| sakoman | khem: any thoughts on the above icu issue? | 00:09 |
| sakoman | (btw the link above is for the code in master for 67.1, I'm testing something similar for 66.1 in dunfell) | 00:14 |
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| khem | sakoman: check commit 5e5be67744d7ddf5a9ac433ecba02f697a84a325 in oe-core | 01:14 |
| khem | 0001-Fix-big-endian-build.patch should only apply when building the data from source | 01:15 |
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| sakoman | khem: in this case the data is not being built due to the new PACKAGECONFIG setting being off by default | 02:38 |
| sakoman | and since the data is not being built, there is not data file for icupkg to use as input | 02:40 |
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| srijan_root | I get this warning message | 05:21 |
| srijan_root | Warning: Value of CONFIG_LOCALVERSION is defined multiple times within fragment /opt/grays-poky/build-grays/tmp/work-shared/genericx86-64/kernel-source/.kernel-meta/configs/v5.2/standard/defconfig: | 05:21 |
| srijan_root | # CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="-grays-standard" | 05:21 |
| srijan_root | Where as CONFIG_LOCALVERSION is only define once the previous one is commented out | 05:22 |
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| srijan_root | I also have a LINUX_VERSION_EXTENSION = "-grays-${LINUX_KERNEL_TYPE}" in the .bbappend file....should I remove CONFIG_LOCALVERSION completely from defconfig | 05:25 |
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| sno | RP: the different PATHs scared me, too | 05:30 |
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| sno | RP: that's why I made the initial patch the way I did to figure out whether there is an itch or not | 05:31 |
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| yann | I'm trying to use http://sstate.yoctoproject.org/3.2/ for a 3.2_M1 qemux86-64 build (the timestamps seem to indicate a relation), but I still have lots of rebuilds including toolchain, where is my mistake ? | 08:29 |
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| RP | yann: its not possible to answer the question, the configuration must not match somehow | 09:15 |
| yann | I'm just adding to the default local.conf INHERIT += "buildstats buildstats-summary", SSTATE_MIRRORS = "file://.* http://sstate.yoctoproject.org/3.2/PATH;downloadfilename=PATH", and set DL_DIR | 09:17 |
| yann | on debian/testing, where I am able to reuse a sstate generated on a Debian 9 host | 09:17 |
| yann | (dunfell sstate, that last one) | 09:18 |
| yann | should I be able to diffsigs in one way or the other ? | 09:18 |
| RP | yann: the autobuilder has hashequiv enabled so thinking about it, without that mapping info you can;t use that :( | 09:20 |
| yann | ah, it boils down to this again :) | 09:20 |
| RP | yann: we want to be able to share a readonly srever or some kind of mappings bu we don't have that yet :( | 09:22 |
| yann | looks like it would be worth a note in local.conf.template for now ? | 09:23 |
| RP | yann: yes, 'd not made the connection until now | 09:23 |
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| emrius | Hey folks, quick question just to confirm: I'm using a mutliconfig configuration which is correctly working. Is the local.conf still respected? | 09:28 |
| emrius | I mean is it parsed as well? Yes, right? | 09:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | emrius: yup. | 09:29 |
| emrius | LetoThe2nd Thanks! | 09:29 |
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| milkylainen | Anyone know if meta-ti developers hang here? | 10:46 |
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| paulbarker | milkylainen: Some do, you may be a bit early for the US based folks though | 10:48 |
| milkylainen | paulbarker: Ah. Right. | 10:48 |
| paulbarker | milkylainen: I recommend just asking your question and seeing who answers | 10:48 |
| milkylainen | Tnx. | 10:49 |
| milkylainen | omap3-evm in meta-ti. Is that implicitly AM3x or DM37x? Not TI81xx? Probably flogging a dead horse here, but I have to ask. :) | 10:50 |
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| paulbarker | milkylainen: That is probably too HW specific for non-TI folks to answer authoritatively. Maybe try the meta-ti list: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-ti | 11:00 |
| milkylainen | paulbarker: Mmm. It was a longshot that a meta-ti maintainer was hanging around here. Searched the channels, but could not find anything more specific to yocto meta-ti. Thanks. | 11:01 |
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| tiramisu | for chromium builds should system_wayland_scanner_path="/usr/bin/wayland-scanner"? (assuming that's where my wayland-scanner lives) | 12:26 |
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| denix | milkylainen: omap3-evm is anything with OMAP35xx | 14:21 |
| milkylainen | denix: ok. There is still no sign of anyone reviving ti816x? | 14:22 |
| JaMa | lol got first e-mail from openembedded-commits@lists.openembedded.org in months and it's marked as spam, because it's some fake "New voicemail received" from "RP" | 14:22 |
| JaMa | https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-commits/message/186007 | 14:23 |
| JaMa | halstead: ^ the git hooks for e-mails still don't work | 14:24 |
| denix | milkylainen: no | 14:25 |
| milkylainen | :( | 14:25 |
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| halstead | JaMa, We can remove that one from the archive. Time to take another look at what is failing here. | 14:34 |
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| zeddii | @jonmason everytime I fix a go issue with ARM builds, do I get a micro-donation ? | 15:00 |
| * zeddii shakes his tin cup. | 15:00 | |
| zeddii | got me 50 cents in there, at least. | 15:00 |
| jonmason | zeddii: rburton is the one that should've gotten golang working. Blame him | 15:01 |
| zeddii | no blame. I'm looking to make some bank | 15:01 |
| zeddii | :P | 15:01 |
| jonmason | its also easier to blame him when he takes the day off | 15:01 |
| zeddii | oooo. I'm hitting bugzilla then | 15:01 |
| jonmason | zeddii: Arm has a xen fix coming, wanna call it even? | 15:03 |
| zeddii | dunno. I'm at both docker and kubernetes. | 15:03 |
| zeddii | we'll settle it over pints in 2022. | 15:04 |
| * zeddii runs | 15:04 | |
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| jonmason | for some reson, the automotive stuff wants xen. I guess they hate life | 15:04 |
| zeddii | yah. I hear that same thing around the office. that is self abuse to be sure. | 15:05 |
| jonmason | zeddii: I'll be happy to buy the first round whenever the US is done infecting all of its populous with covid | 15:05 |
| zeddii | deal. at this rate, you'll make herd by end of year. so keep up the good work! | 15:05 |
| jonmason | when they open up schools at the end of next month, we'll get herd even faster | 15:06 |
| zeddii | might as well work all angles :P | 15:06 |
| * jonmason resists urge to talk politics | 15:07 | |
| zeddii | good idea. trolling for fun is ok. triggering folks, maybe not so much :D | 15:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: Trigger? I hear trigger? | 15:20 |
| smurray | jonmason: there's already support for Xen on a couple of ARM platforms in the AGL tree | 15:20 |
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| jonmason | smurray: not saying it's not supported, xen is broken on master | 15:33 |
| zeddii | well, that isn't true | 15:33 |
| zeddii | many of us are building and using xen on master regularly. | 15:33 |
| jonmason | at least, the patch I internally +2'ed (yay gerrit) said it was and here is the one line fix.... | 15:34 |
| smurray | jonmason: heh, I wasn't referring to it working or not, just that automotive folks are definitely interested | 15:34 |
| zeddii | I'll wait to see the patch then, since the config must be different then. some machine specifics may have crept in. | 15:34 |
| jonmason | now my person has to get IT to change stuff so that he can email the patch from his work email, because of corp smtp server | 15:35 |
| jonmason | the upside is that Arm is testing Xen internally and working to fix issues | 15:36 |
| jonmason | so after years of getting stuff for free, Arm is doing right by the community | 15:37 |
| jonmason | I'm taking all credit and no blame ;-) | 15:37 |
| jonmason | zeddii: any idea why "bitbake-layers layerindex-fetch meta-virtualization" craps the bed but "bitbake-layers layerindex-fetch -b master meta-virtualization" works? | 15:39 |
| zeddii | I've never used bitbake-layers, os I have no idea. | 15:39 |
| zeddii | s/os/so/ | 15:39 |
| jonmason | I'm trying to do some CI scripts and those commands are gold | 15:40 |
| zeddii | I just have shell scripts :D | 15:40 |
| kergoth | Hmmm, the gcc/glibc/etc selftests don't test multilib configurations, only the base configuration | 15:40 |
| kergoth | arg | 15:40 |
| kergoth | guess i could generate subtests, but it'd be nice to be able to specify with less granularity to run the tests for this multilib or that or just the base or all | 15:40 |
| kergoth | hmm | 15:41 |
| fray | jonmason what branch are you in and what is the error? | 15:48 |
| fray | layerindex-fetch queries the layerindex.. if your current branch name isn't yet in the layer index -- or there is no meta-virtualization for that layer it will come back as unnown | 15:49 |
| fray | that is the purpose of the -b option, to specify the branch to query | 15:49 |
| jonmason | fray: master... let me rerun it with a more easily reproducable command | 15:49 |
| fray | master won't work by default.. | 15:49 |
| fray | 'master' does not declare itself as 'master' | 15:50 |
| fray | gatesgarth is what it's declared as, and there is no gatesgarth in the layer index | 15:50 |
| fray | so you need to tell the softare to use master and not gatesgarth | 15:50 |
| jonmason | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HFry5Yxe/ | 15:51 |
| jonmason | other layers are fine, it's only meta-virt | 15:51 |
| fray | ok, then it's dependency related.. sec | 15:51 |
| jonmason | '$ bitbake-layers layerindex-fetch meta-oe meta-python meta-kernel' worked before this and I just did a cleaning of the tree | 15:51 |
| fray | what branch did it fetch for those? | 15:52 |
| jonmason | master, dunfell, dunfell | 15:52 |
| fray | (to be clear it should never backtrace like this.. but anyway) | 15:52 |
| jonmason | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/u0TJvgdD/ | 15:53 |
| jonmason | layer-fetch let's me easily switch whatever branch I'm testing on. It's really aware that way | 15:53 |
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| fray | ya I know.. I wrote most of it.. ;) | 15:54 |
| jonmason | s/aware/awesome | 15:54 |
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| jonmason | I just figured zeddii did something to break it, being an evil canadian and all | 15:54 |
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| fray | it's the dependency fetch of meta-virt that is the problem.. my guess, it has a dependency on something that doesn't exist.. but that shouldn't be triggered a backtrace like this | 15:54 |
| paulbarker | I've seen this a few times recently | 15:55 |
| paulbarker | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13954 | 15:55 |
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| fray | so it likely was pulling the dunfell version of meta-virt.. | 15:55 |
| jonmason | of course paulbarker did the right thing and open a bug, instead of complaining on irc ;-) | 15:56 |
| paulbarker | I should also open a bug for `bitbake-layers layerindex-fetch ...` not looking on the master branch when you've got the master branch of poky checked out | 15:56 |
| fray | that depends on openembedded-core, meta-filesystems, meta-python, meta-networking, meta-oe, meta-selinux, meta-webserverjon, can you try a fetch-layer for each of the dependencies instead of meta-virt? | 15:56 |
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| fray | paulbarker it's doing what it's been told.. your system has said "I'm dunfell and gatesgarth" compatible, which means it won't go to master | 15:58 |
| fray | That is the problem with 'master', nothing actually says "I'm master". | 15:58 |
| fray | meta/layer.conf:LAYERSERIES_CORENAMES = "dunfell gatesgarth" | 15:59 |
| fray | that is all it has to go on for the query | 16:00 |
| fray | Since gatesgarth is not defined, it's going to only query dunfell | 16:00 |
| fray | this was done this way, because during 'master' development a LOT of layers haven't yet upgraded.. so there really isn't a good answer.. | 16:00 |
| fray | What you can do locally is add 'master' to the LAYERSERIES_CORENAMES and then it'll automatically query master | 16:00 |
| fray | (it queries in the order listed, for the most part.. there are some exceptions) | 16:01 |
| paulbarker | fray: That all does make sense, but the results are a mess | 16:01 |
| fray | FInd a way to declare 'master' and 'master', and make sure that everyone is updating layer regularly and the mess goes away.. (I doubt that will happen).. which is why the stable branches work well, master doesn't.. | 16:01 |
| paulbarker | There's no guarantee that dunfell branches of other layers are compatible with master of poky/oe-core. | 16:01 |
| fray | No there aren't.. | 16:02 |
| fray | for master you should always use -b or change the LAYERSERIES_CORENAMES or do it manually.. this is a people issue not a technical issue... | 16:02 |
| paulbarker | It's clear that there's no simple fix that's just going to work out-of-the-box for all layers on master | 16:02 |
| fray | this is one of the BIG reasons I complained 6 months ago about 'master' being horribly stale in the layer index and we needed to really prune it.. | 16:03 |
| fray | but that went nowhere | 16:03 |
| jonmason | maybe to go along with getting rid of the name "master"? | 16:03 |
| fray | if you point fetch-layer, it starts to fail pretty quickly.. not just cause of that -- but stale dependencies, etc | 16:03 |
| jonmason | fray: bots should be easy to write to walk the index and find missing deps | 16:04 |
| fray | jonmason it's not just a name issue.. one possible way to deal with it really is dump 'master', but it means when RP declares 'gatesgarth', that same day it should be added to the layer index and for layers that declare compatibility with gatesgarth they start to run | 16:04 |
| fray | jonmason I did EXACTLY that... and it was a huge mess.. | 16:04 |
| fray | check the archives for the architecture discussion.. I posted all of the stale and invalid configurations.. | 16:05 |
| jonmason | fray: just because it breaks doesn't mean to stop spamming people | 16:05 |
| jonmason | I say the beating continues until they fix it | 16:05 |
| fray | resurrect the thread, I'm all on board with either cleaning up master, asking maintainers to fix things, or both.. (likely both is needed as there really is a LOT of obsolete content) | 16:06 |
| jonmason | we talked about it at OEDEM, I think we need to start doing some action | 16:06 |
| fray | if oe-core declares dunfell and gategarth, and a layer in master doesn't declare either.. it shouldn't be there.. | 16:06 |
| fray | my proposal was I believe 3 months of warnings, then drop it | 16:06 |
| paulbarker | fray: Agreed there | 16:06 |
| fray | if you go through master there are tons of layers that still have no layer version defined, or point ot thud.. or something else equally as old | 16:07 |
| splatch | there is one thing I can't quite get, systemd class has "auto enable" flag, when I do it unit is getting loaded during the boot, but what I actually want for two of my units to run. Is there a way to trigger that nicely? | 16:07 |
| splatch | good afternoon by the way | 16:07 |
| fray | if both units come from the same recipe, I think you just have to specify them both in the variable | 16:08 |
| paulbarker | fray: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7792 is also relevant here | 16:08 |
| fray | but it's been a while since i did this. | 16:08 |
| fray | paulbaker we already have that in the LAYERSERIES_COMPAT and layer index.. so I'd call that implemented.. | 16:08 |
| fray | the issue is that the indexing engine works by branch.. so in order for something to be compatible for dunfell, but not be on the dunfell branch -- one of the layerindex admins needs to manually add it.. then it'll be indexed | 16:09 |
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| splatch | fray: below config does not cause unit to start: SYSTEMD_PACKAGES += "wireguard-tools" SYSTEMD_SERVICE = "wg-quick@wg0.service" SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE = "enable", I even made another one which is not parametrized (wg-quick is) with no luck. There is either an mystery or I do something wrong. | 16:09 |
| fray | (we used this extensively at Wind River.. our say 2019 release branch, would point to things listed as Zeus, or 2019 or even master..) | 16:09 |
| fray | You'll have to check the classes.. I thought you could declare multiple services together.. like the PACKAGES it's a += for each server and enable | 16:10 |
| fray | but I've not done anything related to that in about 2 years, so I might be remembering completely incorrectly | 16:10 |
| paulbarker | fray: Understood. The indexing engine should look at `LAYERSERIES_COMPAT` and then layer maintainers should be told to add `gatesgarth` to that on master. It will also help when layers change branch names | 16:11 |
| splatch | ok, will check with += | 16:11 |
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| fray | I'm going to see if I still had my layerindex scripting to check a given branch and what was broken on it | 16:11 |
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| paulbarker | fray, jonmason: Good discussion here. I'll capture some of it into the relevant bugzilla tickets | 16:11 |
| fray | Well I definitely still have the patch.. but I've forgotten how to use it.. let me see.... | 16:13 |
| paulbarker | I'd recommend `master` disappears from the layer index completely and we just go on LAYERSERIES names (once the indexing is fixed) | 16:13 |
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| fray | We need Paul Eggleton involved with any indxexing discussions.. | 16:14 |
| fray | He is the one who was handling all of that.. and I suspect we need help to adjust the indexing | 16:14 |
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| paulbarker | fray: Agreed | 16:16 |
| fray | so ya, my scripting appears to still work.. | 16:17 |
| fray | trying to find the rules it was documenting | 16:17 |
| paulbarker | We need to consider that some layers will be renaming `master` to `main` or `dev` or something else. I plan to do that for meta-kernel next week | 16:17 |
| fray | URL invalid for >= 90 days, error.. >= 30 days warning, invalid "note'... | 16:18 |
| fray | LAYERSERIES_COMPAT > 1.5 years error, otherwise warning | 16:18 |
| fray | Invalid conf/layer.conf error | 16:19 |
| fray | ya, that is all the current code specifically looks for | 16:19 |
| fray | LAYERSERIES_COMPAT -- doesn't include the targeted compat name, and that has been true for a year and a 1/2 | 16:19 |
| fray | these times/dates were all based on the discussions on the architecture list BTW | 16:20 |
| fray | here is an example of a policy violation: | 16:21 |
| fray | HEAD is now at cbb677e9a0 bitbake: bitbake-worker child process create group before registering SIGTERM handler | 16:21 |
| fray | fatal: unable to access 'http://git.nexell.co.kr:8080/nexell/yocto/krogoth/meta-nexell/': Failed to connect to git.nexell.co.kr port 8080: Connection refused | 16:21 |
| fray | ERROR: POLICY - URL - Layer URL has been invalid for 575 days | 16:21 |
| fray | meta-nexell disappeared a long time ago.. but yet, it's still in the index... | 16:21 |
| fray | IMHO this should have been removed from the index completely.. since it's clearly offline after 575 days | 16:22 |
| fray | lol and meta-gstreamer broke my eval engine.. "nice" | 16:23 |
| splatch | fray: ok, got it running with SYSTEMD_PACKAGES_${PN}-wg = "wireguard-tools" SYSTEMD_SERVICE_${PN}-wg = "wg-quick@wg0.service", I don't quite get why it needs to be with suffix cause when I had ${PN} alone it blew up | 16:23 |
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| paulg | 575 days - geez. | 16:24 |
| fray | (all of the information on when the last succesful fetch by the layerindex is available via the API, which si why I know 575 days) | 16:24 |
| fray | So this is sumo (which is clearly very old) | 16:30 |
| fray | ERROR: POLICY - URL - Invalid layer, meta-luneos-backports-2-8/conf/layer.conf is not available | 16:30 |
| fray | ERROR: POLICY - URL - Invalid layer, meta-mender-toradex-nxp/conf/layer.conf is not available | 16:30 |
| fray | ERROR: POLICY - URL - Layer URL has been invalid for 575 days | 16:30 |
| fray | one invalid URL, and two layers that will never work as they aren't even valid | 16:30 |
| fray | I'm switching to master to see how mad it really is.. | 16:31 |
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| qschulz | splatch: SYSTEMD_PACKAGES is for the recipe so without ${PN}-wg. SYSTEMD_SERVICE is for packages, so you need a suffix. But is there really a ${PN}-wg package in the wireguard-tools recipe (couldn't find one explicitly defined) | 16:38 |
| fray | wow.. master really is a garbage heap of out dated content | 16:41 |
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| khem | RP: I am seeing double packaging issues https://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Build/105653/?limit=150 on master-next any insights | 16:55 |
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| splatch | qschulz: thanks for clarification, I couldn't find distinction between both. Now its a bit brighter ;-) | 16:56 |
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| splatch | just an suggestions, you might consider getting decent openid setup for all public systems you have. I've tried to do two things and landed with two user accounts already ;-) | 17:03 |
| splatch | third is coming .. bugzilla ;) | 17:04 |
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| fray | FYI, my scripting says 156 layers should be removed from master as being excessively old and incompatible | 17:20 |
| fray | that leaves 220 in master | 17:20 |
| fray | (to be clear, removed from master doesn't necessarily mean removed from the index!) | 17:21 |
| fray | there are only 10 in there with invalid URLs right now | 17:21 |
| fray | of those only 4 meet the time'd criteria to remove them | 17:21 |
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| kergoth | oof. | 17:34 |
| kergoth | i need to do more regular testing of my public layers with various stable branches. should really set up a personal CI | 17:35 |
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| RP | khem: they look python related which makes me suspect http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=eb166d936b442c38604f8e42fd96aba84a2d74de | 17:43 |
| RP | khem: doesn't look obviously wrong though | 17:43 |
| RP | khem: ah, it is obviously wrong :) | 17:44 |
| milkylainen | I can't for the life of me figure out why a "newer" gcc won't build a booting ARM 2.6.37 (older meta-ti). I've fixed -fno-ipa-sra, -mno-unaligned-access, fixed unaligned asm, fixed broken memset, updated kernel compiler headers. And I don't have a JTAG to it. Anyone? | 17:45 |
| milkylainen | Codesourcery 4.3.3 works. Crosstool-ng 4.9.4 or whatever breaks. | 17:46 |
| milkylainen | Nothing from the kernel. Dead as a dodo. | 17:46 |
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| alejandrohs | guys what was the name of the scrip that checks for recipe/layer syntax? | 17:49 |
| alejandrohs | script* | 17:49 |
| zeddii | why_does_this_layer_suck_so_bad.py | 17:52 |
| fray | the one for yocto compatibility? | 17:53 |
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| alejandrohs | fray: yup | 17:53 |
| zeddii | yocto_why_does_this_layer_suck_so_bad.py | 17:53 |
| alejandrohs | zeddii: hahaha | 17:53 |
| fray | sec | 17:53 |
| alejandrohs | If I cant find it I cant imagine how someone new would :/ | 17:55 |
| JPEW | alejandrohs: scripts/yocto-check-layer | 17:55 |
| alejandrohs | JPEW: thanks! | 18:01 |
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| khem | RP: yeah | 18:15 |
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| khem | milkylainen: its better to stay with that old of kernel with older compiler, while its feasible to compile it using newer gcc you probably wont gain much | 18:22 |
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| milkylainen | khem: Yes I know I won't gain much. I just like the idea of not having several toolchains for one build. | 18:25 |
| milkylainen | khem: And the problem fascinates me a bit too. ;) | 18:25 |
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| khem | milkylainen: well curiousity is good, if thats what you are after | 18:27 |
| milkylainen | khem: Btw. I think I applied your references to memset fixes, but that did not help either. | 18:31 |
| milkylainen | It's a bit of a pita without a debugger. | 18:31 |
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| khem | RP: will you punt this patch from master-next ? | 18:38 |
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| RP | khem: yes | 19:06 |
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