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xicopitz[m] | Hello. Did someone successfully add docker-compose to a yocto project build? thanks | 02:04 |
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zeddii | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=docker-compose | 02:13 |
* paulg keys random words into the layer search | 02:17 | |
paulg | how can there not be a recipe for xroach !?! | 02:18 |
zeddii | xyes | 02:19 |
zeddii | xeyes even | 02:19 |
paulg | kids these days - no respect for tried and true software. | 02:20 |
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xicopitz[m] | zeddii: i was not importing "python3-docker-compose" on CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL . It's working now. Thanks | 02:37 |
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LetoThe2nd | any neat pointers on how to disable systemd-timesyncd in the defaultconfiguration? | 07:56 |
LetoThe2nd | sed'ing out the wantedby line out of the default unit by an append might work, but feels... convoluted. | 07:58 |
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RP | LetoThe2nd: switch to sysvinit? | 08:52 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: sorry, couldn't resist | 08:52 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: hehe | 08:52 |
LetoThe2nd | for the record, i now went with said sed'ing | 08:53 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: i personally think systemd is a powerful and awesome tool, except when it isn't : | 08:56 |
LetoThe2nd | :-D | 08:56 |
LetoThe2nd | just like that mikrotik switch i use as bench network here... its super awesome in terms of features packed for the price. but requires a lot of cursing and beating into shape before you can harness it. | 08:58 |
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RP | LetoThe2nd: I try not to have an opinion, someone had to give that answer though :) | 09:08 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: agreed! | 09:09 |
* RP needs to sort out his home networking. My desk switch is unmanaged so not so much fun | 09:10 | |
ak77 | god I hate that I can't run systemd nicely in a docker. I have a oe setup that produces containers/vm images/sd cards and can't use same init | 09:10 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: as hinted, i'm somewhat of a mikrotik fanboy now. the price tags are awesome for the features they pack, but it really requires some getting invested in sorting it out. | 09:11 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: I have a TP-Link managed switch which is more interesting | 09:13 |
* LetoThe2nd is running a switch setup with two vlans including dhcp server and port based tagging/untagging, as well as natting in HW for ~150€, and wifi/sfp are still unoccupied. | 09:13 | |
RP | LetoThe2nd: nice. I was happy to finally have ipv6 working recently | 09:14 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: for me the main requirement was that the box does all the vlan/dhcp magic, as my dev machine is a laptop that i lug around a lot and i don't want to poison other networks that I enter. this way, the only modification to that was adding the two vlan interfaces to access the DUT networks. | 09:16 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: makes sense | 09:18 |
LetoThe2nd | as usual, use cases differ. | 09:18 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: right, I have no need to do that | 09:19 |
LetoThe2nd | yes, if you've got a stationary setup the architecture can be quite different. | 09:19 |
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ziemlichwurscht | i have an image running on some device - now i would like to have some development tools on there - but only for development purposes. i could generate a package feed and somehow put "rpm" on the target, but i was wondering if there is an easier way, for example just generating a tar.gz with the development tool, inclkuding its dependencies which | 09:44 |
ziemlichwurscht | are not already part of the standard target image. | 09:44 |
ziemlichwurscht | any hints? | 09:44 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: why not just build the dev image that you like? | 09:45 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: its absolutely common to have a image/dev-image and/or distro/dev-distro pair for exactly that usecase. | 09:46 |
LetoThe2nd | and if done properly, thats even somewhat maintainable. | 09:46 |
ziemlichwurscht | LetoThe2nd: i guess that is another way, there are some practicalities... like with a complete image i have to go through the flash process of the device, or i want only 2 out of 10 possible tools and space is limited on the device | 09:46 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: boot from nfs or some sd card. :) | 09:47 |
ziemlichwurscht | no sd cards on the devices i have :) | 09:47 |
ziemlichwurscht | yeah, sure, that would be best.... but again even more pracicalities :) | 09:47 |
LetoThe2nd | settinincluding rpm as packagemanager will also eat up quite some space. | 09:48 |
ziemlichwurscht | yes that is true | 09:48 |
LetoThe2nd | plus, it gets really hard to repeat the setup | 09:48 |
ziemlichwurscht | "quite some"? is it really that bad? why? | 09:48 |
ziemlichwurscht | i guess just being able to generate tar.gzs with what is actually needed would put the least requirements on the environment/device | 09:49 |
qschulz | ziemlichwurscht: devtool modify, devtool build, devtool deploy-target? | 09:50 |
LetoThe2nd | because of the package dbs. | 09:50 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: doesn't help if you only want to push a package | 09:50 |
ziemlichwurscht | qschulz: i have to look up what that is, thanks | 09:51 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: well, "just tar.gz" help you if your tools have no dependencies whatsoever and are completely statically linked. which.. is almost never the case. | 09:51 |
ziemlichwurscht | LetoThe2nd actually i was thinking something along the lines of telling yocto: i have this image on the device, i want gdb now, please put gdb and readline and what is not already in the image in a tar.gz i can extract on the device | 09:52 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: if you want to go the runtim PM route and are space contrained, basically your only bet is using ipk. | 09:52 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: i totally understood that thats what you thought of. ut its just not there for you to use, unless you write upstream support for a mechanism like that :) | 09:52 |
ziemlichwurscht | yeah, i was afraid of that being the answer :) | 09:53 |
ziemlichwurscht | i also thought about just doing the "rpm" PM stuff in a qemu | 09:54 |
ziemlichwurscht | and in this way using rpm, and then generating the tar.gz | 09:54 |
ziemlichwurscht | something like that | 09:54 |
LetoThe2nd | ziemlichwurscht: which in turn means that you are creating a second way to build a derived image. | 09:55 |
LetoThe2nd | like i said, i don't think thats a good idea. my vote is totally on dev-image/-distro | 09:56 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: what's wrong with devtool? Didn't understand what you wrote | 09:56 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: devtool works nicely for working on a specific application, and if all (R)DEPENDS are already in the image. not for getting a specific package onto the target. like, "devtool install strace" or such. | 09:57 |
ziemlichwurscht | qschulz i have some difficulities understanding this devtool business on the spot - even when googling - could you perhaps just summarize what you mean? | 09:57 |
LetoThe2nd | if devtool has gotten support for such lately then beg my pardon and i hereby contradict everything i just typed :) | 09:57 |
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vermaete | hi, | 10:01 |
vermaete | Could it be that the class to add the localversion to the Linux kernel of meta-freescale is not working anymore? | 10:02 |
vermaete | This one: https://github.com/Freescale/meta-freescale/blob/master/classes/fsl-kernel-localversion.bbclass | 10:02 |
vermaete | And where should I report this (once I'm sure about my case). | 10:02 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I assumed devtool deploy-target would send all files needed but I honestly use devtool sporadically ;) | 10:03 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: nope, devtool works differently. and more specifically, it only works for stuff you have explicitly pulled into your working area. | 10:03 |
LetoThe2nd | vermaete: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/meta-freescale/tree/README#n13 | 10:05 |
LetoThe2nd | vermaete: looks like they prefer interaction on github | 10:05 |
LetoThe2nd | vermaete: so maybe open an issue there? | 10:05 |
qschulz | vermaete: and please be more explicit than "is it possible it does not work?" ;) | 10:05 |
vermaete | Well, I was more wondering if there is now (Dunfell) a more common Yocto way of adding version info the the kernel version. | 10:06 |
vermaete | I never saw this one before: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#var-LINUX_VERSION_EXTENSION | 10:06 |
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LetoThe2nd | zeddii: preempt rt for the win :) | 14:35 |
* zeddii nods | 14:35 | |
zeddii | I hope with my last email, that I have done that exit. | 14:36 |
zeddii | time will tell. | 14:36 |
LetoThe2nd | i will tell right now: doesn't work. | 14:36 |
* zeddii sobs | 14:37 | |
LetoThe2nd | zeddii: have to admit that i anticipated exactly this outcome and therefore did not answer | 14:37 |
zeddii | that falls into the "if you are asking that question, you have no idea about all the details and issues, and there's no way we can instruct you" | 14:37 |
LetoThe2nd | or the "if you are asking that question this way, it means that you need some introductory training"-category | 14:38 |
zeddii | you will be fighting not only the OE learning curve, but the kernel issues at the same time. good luck and throw $$ at it. | 14:38 |
* zeddii nods | 14:38 | |
LetoThe2nd | the key point is understanding that $$$ is actually needed. | 14:39 |
LetoThe2nd | or a lot of time, not just "exact steps" | 14:40 |
zeddii | 100% | 14:40 |
qschulz | There are quite a bunch of those people lately on the ML unfortunately :/ | 14:40 |
LetoThe2nd | well it is both good and bad. new people coming in is good. the problem is when they have the "all i need to"-mindset | 14:41 |
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smurray | YPTM: Scott Murray is on | 15:02 |
LetoThe2nd | YPTM: Josef is on | 15:02 |
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tlwoerner | JPEW: sorry, what was your question again? | 15:15 |
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JPEW | tlwoerner: Does bitbake automatically detect variable dependencies in library code? Answer: no | 15:25 |
tlwoerner | JPEW: thanks :-) | 15:25 |
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rburton | khem: good news: found your optee-os build race | 15:27 |
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khem | rburton: nice ! | 15:28 |
rburton | classic missing mkdir when doing out-of-tree builds | 15:29 |
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RP | khem: do you know much about our qemumips target machine and whether there would be something faster we could emulate? | 15:30 |
RP | khem: its lack of speed appears to be creating issues on the autobuilder | 15:31 |
paulg | what is it emulating now? Some horrible 200MHz malta from 2003? | 15:31 |
zeddii | yup | 15:31 |
paulg | whee! | 15:31 |
rburton | I did wonder if it was being deliberately slow on purpose :) | 15:31 |
zeddii | there are other choices, but actually getting a fully functional platform/board is the trick. | 15:32 |
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zeddii | I don't think it slows down to what it is emulating, since it isn't cycle accurate or anything, but there's definitely some ancient stuff in there. | 15:32 |
RP | zeddii: for some definition of functional :/ | 15:33 |
zeddii | heh. I normally say "can disk boot and has a network" | 15:33 |
zeddii | most of them don't even have that, and we've swizzled the PCI on the malta a few times (paulg will get that reference). | 15:33 |
RP | zeddii: the continual races/hangs/problems are just getting to me | 15:33 |
RP | I guess I'm wondering if there is some instruction set change we could make to have it work faster | 15:34 |
kergoth | RP: huh, turns out MULTILIB_VARIANTS was in my nativesdk-glibc:do_patch sig, so changing from a non-multilib machine to a multilib machine made things blow up | 15:34 |
* kergoth figures out where it's coming from | 15:34 | |
RP | kergoth: ouch, that'd do it! | 15:34 |
zeddii | I don't think it's kernel version dependent, but i wonder why it's popping up more now. | 15:34 |
RP | zeddii: I wish I knew | 15:34 |
zeddii | I'm finalizing 5.8 right now, that will be another data point. | 15:35 |
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RP | zeddii: yes, that might be interesting | 15:37 |
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gsalazar | Hello, I am wondering if there is any way to exclude a certain package from being added to the sdk. Currently I am using yocto to generate an image to flash on a target and in that case I want the application being developed to be added but when generating the sdk to develop that application I would rather not compile and add it | 16:08 |
gsalazar | is this feasible? I looked in the manual but could not find it | 16:08 |
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kergoth | thank goodness for sstate-diff-machines.sh | 16:10 |
kergoth | hmm, could use an arg to specify the tasks to check, though | 16:11 |
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kergoth | hmm, ERROR_QA_remove is resulting in basehash change errors in do_package_qa? weird | 16:15 |
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dv | I am generating SDK for rpm-based distribution and can't find rpmbuild inside my SDK. Why it is not there and how can I include it? | 16:19 |
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kergoth | RP: is it possible to access the metadata of multiconfigs from the non-multiconfig baseline? i.e. have a recipe iterates over the multiconfig configurations and does something for each? | 16:39 |
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JPEW | kergoth: There currently isn't an API to access other multiconfig's variables... it would be nice though | 16:53 |
kergoth | ah. i was thinking about trying to make a combined sdk recipe that built the sysroots for multiple machines, but probably not viable without that just yet | 16:54 |
JPEW | kergoth: You need to grab `DEPLOY_DIR` from the other multiconfigs? | 16:56 |
JPEW | Or `DEPLOY_DIR` equivalent for SDKs... can't recall what it is ATM | 16:56 |
kergoth | sdks just build fielsystems like an image, just from both nativesdk and target, so presumably could make do with DEPLOY_DIR_IPK or whatever is in use, but would likely also need to know the package archs to use for each | 16:57 |
kergoth | hmm | 16:57 |
kergoth | could arrange to write the necessary information where i can pull it, rather than using a direct api | 16:57 |
JPEW | kergoth: Thats what we do currently | 16:57 |
kergoth | ah, do you have an example? are you doing this sort of thing with images? | 16:58 |
JPEW | For each of our multiconfigs, we have DEPLOY_DIR_A, DEPLOY_DIR_B, defined in the base config, then in multiconfig A we do DEPLOY_DIR = "${DEPLOY_DIR_A}" | 17:00 |
JPEW | So, each one has well defined DEPLOY_DIR they can cross reference | 17:00 |
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RP | kergoth: we haven't come up with an API for that as yet | 17:06 |
RP | kergoth: its hard since the metadata doesn't even exist inside bitbake in general | 17:07 |
RP | we'd hard to parse/compute the other datastore | 17:07 |
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jarvis-owl | @manjaroi3_ i tried yocto in docker with manjaro | 17:24 |
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bob444 | Hello all - I have a Yocto question. Can I ask it here? | 17:54 |
dv | I am generating SDK for rpm-based distribution and can't find rpmbuild inside my SDK. Why it is not there and how can I include it? | 17:55 |
bob444 | I have a requirement to produce both shared and static libraries for a lot of recipes - fmt is a good example. I want to do something like: | 17:57 |
bob444 | EXTRA_OECMAKE = "-DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=ON", then do the configure and compile, the do EXTRA_OECMAKE = "-DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=OFF", then do the configure and compile again. | 17:57 |
bob444 | Anyone have an idea on how to do that? | 17:58 |
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rburton | can't your cmake just build both at the same time? | 18:02 |
rburton | most can | 18:02 |
kergoth | hmm, gcc-cross-canadian-arm changes between armv7ahf-neon and armv7a-neon, even though it's supposedly just arm. i'd expect glibc and the runtime to differ, but the toolchain either needs to use a unique prefix based on tuning, or shouldn't change between tunings | 18:04 |
bob444 | I can look at patching the CMakeLists.txt, but it's a less ideal approach for me, because I'm going to need to do this for fmt and several lua libraries | 18:04 |
kergoth | presumably the default tuning of the compiler might change, but we always pass the tuning anyway, so if so that's less than useful.. | 18:06 |
kergoth | hmm | 18:06 |
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kergoth | I should probably examine gcc-cross, i don't think that gets rebuilt between them.. at least i'd hope not | 18:08 |
kergoth | indeed, it doesn't, will have to compare gcc-cross and gcc-cross-canadian builds | 18:11 |
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rburton | bob444: easier to patch (and send upstream) the required makefile changes to build static and shared at the same time (as the only difference is a link call) than kludge multipe recipes that build twice | 18:31 |
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kergoth | Currently 2 running tasks (1548 of 10333) .. huh. multiconfig builds can take a while | 19:54 |
RP | sakoman: your build just hit the ping timeout too :( | 19:57 |
sakoman | RP: yeah, was just looking at that :-( | 19:58 |
khem | RP: qemumips we use malta emulation IIRC right ? | 20:01 |
RP | sakoman: mips I can understand but that was an x86 build, presumably with kvm | 20:01 |
RP | khem: yes | 20:02 |
khem | perhaps we could use pc-like 'mips' board emulation | 20:02 |
khem | malta supports more controllers and devices perhaps thats why its slow | 20:03 |
RP | khem: I suspect the instruction set emulation is the main bottleneck, I think we already push for virtio | 20:03 |
khem | right, malta is 24Kf ISA, which will emulation hard-float too | 20:04 |
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sakoman | RP: I didn't notice whether the master-next build had started before the error. If it hadn't then the system probably wasn't very heavily loaded | 20:04 |
khem | not sure what generic mips will default to, but perhaps worth to explore | 20:04 |
RP | sakoman: it hadn't | 20:04 |
sakoman | So that makes it even more mysterious | 20:04 |
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RP | sakoman: yes. Ideas on debugging this? :/ | 20:05 |
sakoman | No, not even a faint idea! | 20:05 |
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sakoman | you've tried things I wouldn't have thought of! | 20:06 |
khem | is sakoman 's issue on mips too ? | 20:06 |
sakoman | no x86 | 20:06 |
RP | sakoman: I've tried one too many of these kinds of issue, I'm worn out with them and out of ideas | 20:06 |
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RP | khem: we had an error on an x86 selftest build which looks a bit like one of the mips failures. The mips issues are much more prevalent though | 20:06 |
khem | I see, I have seen that code generated with gcc10 on mips is bigger in size performance wise it did not show huge differences, but havent measured it particulatly | 20:07 |
RP | sakoman: that worker is very very laggy to login to | 20:09 |
khem | RP: maybe we should try mips32r6-generic instead of 24Kf for CPU model | 20:09 |
RP | khem: would be worth some quick benchmarking | 20:09 |
khem | my worry is r6 is ABI incompatible with older mips32 so it might mean using different tunes | 20:10 |
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RP | khem: I don't know the mips isas very well :( | 20:11 |
khem | you are lucky | 20:11 |
khem | I am glad its fading away | 20:12 |
khem | RP: try something like http://sprunge.us/WCqnQx | 20:14 |
RP | There is something really wrong on this worker :( | 20:16 |
RP | halstead: are you around or not? No problem if not | 20:16 |
halstead | RP, I'm around. Just making a little lunch. | 20:18 |
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khem | RP: trying a qemumips build today and see if it pans ok with r6 cpu | 20:19 |
khem | RP: did you see any other problems with glibc 2.32 besides the qemippc issue ? | 20:20 |
halstead | RP, Is this centos-ty-1 again? | 20:20 |
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RP | halstead: no, centos8-ty-1 | 20:26 |
RP | halstead: its really odd, I installed iotop and am watching this running build. It will see a ton of IO, then kind of lock up for several seconds, then another burst of activity | 20:26 |
halstead | RP, Did this just start? I replaced a drive in this worker when I visited Portland on the 17th. It should have finished rebuilding a awhile ago. I'll check. | 20:28 |
RP | halstead: We're seeing odd issues on several workers :/ | 20:29 |
RP | halstead: its hard to tell when it started | 20:29 |
halstead | RP, The CentOS8 workers don't have the scheduled drop_caches like the centos7 workers. Should they? | 20:31 |
RP | halstead: the other place we saw the issue was debian10-ty-3 :/ | 20:31 |
RP | halstead: no, the centos8 workers shouldn't need that | 20:31 |
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RP | halstead: its as if its choked up on IO yet iotop is also hanging :/ | 20:33 |
RP | halstead: its running more normally now | 20:36 |
RP | halstead: did you change something? | 20:36 |
halstead | RP, No I just started looking at it from a shell. | 20:37 |
RP | halstead: its suddenly got a lot more interactive and sped up | 20:37 |
halstead | RP, I saw the unresponsiveness on centos8-ty-1, debian10-ty-2, and debian10-ty-3 for a minute. But it cleared up as I was reading top and such. | 20:38 |
RP | halstead: right, its stalling a bit still now and again but nothing like it was | 20:39 |
RP | halstead: we need to find the cause of this as I think its related to the failures we're seeing | 20:39 |
halstead | RP, There was a problem with the raid rebuild on centos8-ty-1. I'm going to pause it to correct. | 20:40 |
RP | halstead: not sure its as simple as system load :/ | 20:40 |
RP | halstead: ok | 20:40 |
RP | halstead: we can abort the current build and restart if it helps, or just disconnect that worker and let the controller reschedule the work | 20:41 |
halstead | RP, I don't think so either. The numbers aren't out of the ordinary. Looking over dmesg there are tracebacks I don't see often. | 20:42 |
RP | halstead: they suggest slow processes though and are more of a symptom I think? | 20:42 |
halstead | RP, Okay I'll force that offline after I poke at it a bit more. | 20:43 |
RP | halstead: sorry to interrupt lunch, its probably good you see this for yourself though | 20:43 |
halstead | RP, No worries. I'm glad to see it as it's happening. | 20:44 |
RP | halstead: iotop does keep stopping to refresh :/ | 20:45 |
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kergoth | huh. i wonder why lib32-gcc-cross-i686 is mlprefixed when doing an i686 multilib for x86_64 baseline. you'd think it'd be the same result as regular gcc-cross-i686, since it's building a new gcc for that arch either way, as opposed to using a ml config of gcc-cross-x86-64 | 20:52 |
* kergoth shrugs, jots a note to check it out later out of curiosity | 20:53 | |
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RP | kergoth: from memory we had to have different mlprefix compilers since the libXX locations are hardcoded into the compiler :( | 21:00 |
kergoth | hmm, interesting. i'm sure we could get around it one way or another, but it's the lowest of low priorities :) | 21:03 |
RP | kergoth: I decided I'd gone far enough at that point :) | 21:04 |
kergoth | indeed | 21:04 |
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dv | how to include rpmbuild into SDK? | 22:32 |
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RP | khem: I did try that but it doesn't seem to want to boot :/ | 23:10 |
kergoth | RP: can you run a selftest against a multiconfig configuration? | 23:16 |
kergoth | or anyone else, really | 23:16 |
RP | kergoth: it would only run against the default config I suspect | 23:18 |
kergoth | that's what i was thinking, thanks | 23:18 |
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