| Guest9816 | Androo: what does `go env` say ? | 00:04 |
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| Androo | CC and CXX both have that invalid sysroot in 'go env' | 00:05 |
| Guest9816 | right so that is the problem in building go compiler | 00:05 |
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| Guest9816 | I guess setting CC/CXX in your env is a workaround you can use but we need to fix it by setting CC_FOR_TARGET in recipe to use target compiler as it will be duting runtime not buildtime | 00:15 |
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| Androo | thanks for the assistance everyone, I believe I'm running smoothly with Go on the target machine now and will file a bug report once I dig into the problem a bit more and better understand it | 01:52 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:34 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:47 |
| mckoan | hi LetoThe2nd | 07:47 |
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| nlhnt | join #poky | 10:06 |
| nlhnt | sorry :) | 10:06 |
| nlhnt | Hey guys and gals, I wanted to ask for some help, is this a good place? | 10:07 |
| nlhnt | I am trying to install vboxguest additions for a NI Linux RT system which is based on Poky (I think), so I followed the guide found in here: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/meta/recipes-core/images/build-appliance-image/README_VirtualBox_Guest_Additions.txt | 10:08 |
| nlhnt | Unfortunately there are some missing files (probably more than one) and I cannot finish the ```make scripts``` step | 10:08 |
| nlhnt | For example `classmap.h` is missing. And it is not present on the system, I searched for some similar problems on Fedora distribution but there are no present solutions, they seem to struggle with similar problems as well. | 10:09 |
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| LetoThe2nd | nlhnt: well the readme you linked specifically refers to the build-appliance image, so it probably does not work on any given poky-based build | 10:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | see: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/plain/meta/recipes-core/images/build-appliance-image_15.0.0.bb | 10:28 |
| LetoThe2nd | this includes kernel-dev and kernel-devsrc, which are probably both not present in your image | 10:28 |
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| nlhnt | letothe2nd: Ok, will do, thank you! :) | 10:31 |
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| manuel1985 | What does the SH in SHLIBS stand for? I knew but it slipped my mind. | 10:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | um, "shared"? | 10:58 |
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| manuel1985 | LetoThe2nd: Ah, yes.. Now I remember ;) Thx | 11:12 |
| manuel1985 | I remember it was something pretty obvious when I first learned about it | 11:13 |
| manuel1985 | Still I forgot | 11:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | :) | 11:15 |
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| marex | fray: hey, are you around to discuss meta-xilinx-standalone ? :) | 12:39 |
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| LetoThe2nd | epyc 7ksomething for build server? good or bad idea? | 15:05 |
| guest252 | Hi, I'm having trouble with cross-linking a trivial c program with the yocto SDK: I get the error message "cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory" despite including it in my IDE | 15:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | guest252: are you properly passing the sysroot, repectively using the environment setup script? does it work manually (e.g. without the ide?) | 15:07 |
| guest252 | aarch64-poky-linux-gcc -L/opt/poky/3.0.4/sysroots/aarch64-poky-linux/lib -L/opt/poky/3.0.4/sysroots/aarch64-poky-linux/usr/lib -L/opt/poky/3.0.4/sysroots/aarch64-poky-linux/usr/lib/aarch64-poky-linux/9.2.0 -o "test" ./src/test.o | 15:09 |
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| guest252 | these are the sysroot directories | 15:10 |
| guest252 | I'm not using the environment setup script | 15:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | guest252: then thats the problem. use the script, its there for a reason. | 15:12 |
| LetoThe2nd | and AFAIK, passing random -L flags is not the same as passing --sysroot | 15:12 |
| rburton | guest252: you don't *need* to use the environment script, but you *do* need to pass --sysroot | 15:15 |
| rburton | because having 1 sysroot in a SDK is basically a nice edge case | 15:16 |
| rburton | multilib, multiarch, multitune, all have multiple sysroots | 15:16 |
| guest252 | Okay, that makes sens rburton, thank you | 15:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: so my AFAIK strikes! | 15:17 |
| rburton | yeah, gcc needs to find its internal libraries and stuff | 15:17 |
| * LetoThe2nd feels mightily proud. | 15:19 | |
| guest252 | Hm, it's probably easier if I actually use the environment script, the alternative is copy&paste anyway, so does anyone know a tutorial to include this script in Eclipse? | 15:24 |
| * LetoThe2nd knows how to get rid of eclipse | 15:25 | |
| rburton | when I used a SDK inside vscode the trick was to tell it that the compile command was . environment.. && $CC | 15:26 |
| guest252 | Ah, that's actually a great idea, thank you | 15:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: sounds legit, or robs latest blueprint for vsc | 15:27 |
| rburton | yeah that is next-level | 15:28 |
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| roussinm | I was wondering if this is the style of code you are using inside bitbake python: https://pastebin.com/6z2438FY instead of `return fn in self.clean` ? | 15:36 |
| roussinm | Oups that pastebin has expired. | 15:36 |
| roussinm | https://pastebin.com/6tqdUcis | 15:38 |
| kergoth | roussinm: it's not a question of general style, just individual choices about readability. generally we favor idiomatic python, but we try not to sacrifice readability just for conciseness. it's case by case. | 15:40 |
| * zeddii nods | 15:42 | |
| zeddii | I've read too much perl/script/python code where the author is just trying to show how clever they are, and make things as small/concise/single line as possible. | 15:43 |
| roussinm | kergoth: what about usage of functions like `all` and `any` ? | 15:43 |
| kergoth | we've used them on a number of occasions and continue to do so | 15:43 |
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| kergoth | zeddii: precisely, they often sacrifice readability and make maintenance harder in the doing | 15:43 |
| kergoth | we aren't going to be clever just because the stdlib has a function. if it makes sense and it's idiomatic and readable, we'll use it | 15:44 |
| kergoth | certainly patches to make the codebase more idiomatic would be considered for sure | 15:44 |
| roussinm | We all have threshold of readability I guess, I would prefer using `return MYCONDITION` instead of spliting false/true. I'm used to the second syntax because I use a clang-tidy (C++) check that requires to "simplify" statement. | 15:46 |
| roussinm | *first syntax. | 15:46 |
| kergoth | IMO it depends on the complexity and readability of the condition | 15:47 |
| fray | I love people who use obfuscators.. 'Don't steal ma code, I'm an eleete haxor'.. dude, it's an interpreted language, the code is open.. | 15:48 |
| roussinm | you can always extract to a function or variable to put a name on the condition which should simplify. | 15:48 |
| zeddii | if not not foo: do this. | 15:48 |
| roussinm | zeddii: oh god. don't. | 15:49 |
| zeddii | signed-off-by: his-eliteness@elite.org | 15:49 |
| fray | if not not not foo: | 15:49 |
| zeddii | :D | 15:49 |
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| fray | if not not not foo or not not foo: | 15:49 |
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| fray | (actually I was going through some code a few weeks ago, where the code was something like foo = not bar \n (about a dozen lines later) if foo or bar: .... | 15:50 |
| fray | so always do this? | 15:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: you're not really eleet until you get your PoCs back from customer presentations with the commend "worked nicely, but they asked us what foo and bar meant" | 15:51 |
| zeddii | :D | 15:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | for the record: yes, this has happend to me. | 15:52 |
| zeddii | it definitely level sets for the rest of the conversation, doesn't it ? | 15:52 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ayup | 15:53 |
| roussinm | kergoth: https://clang.llvm.org/extra/clang-tidy/checks/readability-simplify-boolean-expr.html that's the check I'm using in our code base. I don't have much experience in Python, does python has similar tooling? Auto-refactoring, Auto-modernization? | 15:55 |
| fray | One thing I do, and have been called on it numerous times.. "for k,v in pairs(table)" (lua code).. "Please expand what k and v do".. for a lot of cases, that makes sense, cause the key and value do have meaning... but I wrote a function that simply copied a structure.. got the same comment and say "stands for key and value, since it can copy any table..." | 15:55 |
| fray | so it was clear the reviewer just went 'k,v' but enver looked at the comment to the function that says 'copy a table' | 15:55 |
| rburton | roussinm: https://github.com/python-rope/rope? | 15:57 |
| roussinm | rburton: Yes I use rope inside VSCode. That's the only one I use with PyLance server. | 15:58 |
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| roussinm | Pylance has been very usefull to find unused imports and unused variables, but I don't think I understand how import works in bitbake because when I experiment by removing unused imports in a module, another module fails because it's missing that import. It feels like transitive import dependency? Maybe that's the python way? | 16:07 |
| JaMa | halstead: is patchwork known to be broken or is it just really slow? https://patchwork.openembedded.org/project/oe/patches/?submitter=&state=*&q=&archive=both&delegate= shows last patch from 2020-10-30 and there were many patches on ML after that | 16:09 |
| halstead | JaMa, I keep repairing patch processing and then it fails again. I'm not sure why this time. | 16:14 |
| roussinm | kergoth: the maximum python version supported in BitBake atm is 3.6, correct? | 16:15 |
| halstead | Email to OE patchwork-next is bouncing again just like on Oct 17th. I need to change this set up instead of repairing. | 16:16 |
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| kergoth | roussinm: https://github.com/openembedded/bitbake/blob/master/lib/bb/__init__.py#L15 | 16:16 |
| kergoth | roussinm: sadly we can't use f-strings yet :) | 16:16 |
| roussinm | kergoth: :( Do you have a ETA on when it's going to be possible? Because even Debian has Python 3.7, debian is always behind usally. lol | 16:17 |
| kergoth | would have to ask RP, but oe+bitbake is expeted to run on a wide variety of hosts, so it always tends toward a certain level of compatibility | 16:18 |
| kergoth | would be nice, though | 16:18 |
| roussinm | it would improve readability on a lot of strings ;) | 16:18 |
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| halstead | JaMa, It's starting to catch up now. | 16:35 |
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| JaMa | halstead: thanks! any update on -commits MLs? | 16:44 |
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| marc1 | Question about wic: when calling wic from the command line, it uses the NATIVE_SYSROOT from the wic-tools recipe, right? But when wic is called from a run.do_image_wic script will it use the NATIVE_SYSROOT from the image (so recipe-sysroot-image)? | 16:54 |
| marex | fray: oh hello | 16:55 |
| marex | fray: you still around ? | 16:55 |
| Guest9816 | marc1: yes | 16:55 |
| marex | fray: I have a question about some interpreted language (python) scripts (meta-xilinx-standalone) :-) | 16:56 |
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| opello | is there a bgg with PN being only [0-9-]+ and ALLOW_EMPTY_${PN} = "1" breaking? (thud, haven't checked newer; package_rpm.bbclass seems pretty stable; pretty sure this didn't happen in rocko) | 18:15 |
| opello | s/bgg/bug/ | 18:15 |
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| yann | do we have a tool that would compare the pn-buildlist with the recipes really used for an image ? | 18:53 |
| yann | I'd think a first step would be to include the output of "bitbake -g" in buildhistory, and write this as a buildhistory-analysing script ? | 18:54 |
| * yann does not like to spend time waiting for the build of useless stuff, especially when bisecting | 18:56 | |
| kergoth | Are you just trying to get a list of the recipes that were used as build tools? | 18:56 |
| kergoth | nothing is built that isnt in the dependency graph. if it's there, something depended on it | 18:56 |
| kergoth | so i'm not sure what you're looking for | 18:56 |
| kergoth | you can't just blindly remove dependencies, unless they're pulled in through PACKAGECONFIG and you can opt out of those fatures | 18:56 |
| kergoth | features | 18:56 |
| yann | eg. lmsensors default to building sensord, which pulls rrdtools, which pulls perl - I just noticed that by chance, glancing idly at the bitbake progress and gaping at the sight of rrdtool | 18:57 |
| yann | that's easily fixed by a PACKAGECONFIG tweak, but I'm sure there are many such occurences, and we should have a way to see that easily | 18:58 |
| yann | and yes there are cases where we just did not add the PACKAGECONFIG items yet, I'm sure :) | 18:59 |
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| yann | looking at task-depends.dot I can see I have some more work if I do want to avoid building perl, which does not every reaches my rootfs, it's sad not to be warned :) | 19:01 |
| kergoth | oftentimes packageconfigs add runtime dependencies as well, which *would* end up in the image, and yet is still an optional dep you might not want | 19:03 |
| kergoth | and warning about everything you build that doesn tgo in the image will show you hundreds of native and cross tools. i guess if you filter it to target. | 19:04 |
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| Guest9816 | RP: it seems the python3 recipe staged in master-next needs some rework http://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Build/112196/ | 19:18 |
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| RP | Guest9816: yes, sorry. Let me drop that lot | 19:19 |
| RP | it was an experiment which didn't work | 19:19 |
| zeddii | khem is in disguise these days | 19:20 |
| RP | armpit: the license errors I mentioned ^^^ | 19:20 |
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| khem | zeddii: I use matrix for IRC these days and it forgets nicks | 19:54 |
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| khem | RP: I have some patches for master to fix my world builds on ml | 19:59 |
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| DanmerZ | Hi! I run basic core minimal image x86 runqemu and want to SSH into it. I installed ssh-server-dropbear but ssh root@192.168.7.2 gives "connection refused" | 20:16 |
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| DanmerZ | EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES ?= "debug-tweaks ssh-server-dropbear" | 20:18 |
| DanmerZ | ping 192.168.7.2 works fine | 20:19 |
| rburton | is it actually running? | 20:23 |
| DanmerZ | how can I check it? | 20:29 |
| DanmerZ | Starting Dropbear SSH server: dropbear. | 20:30 |
| DanmerZ | I see this on qemu start | 20:30 |
| DanmerZ | ip a -> inet 10.0.2.15/24 which looks strange, ip should be 192.168.7.2 | 20:31 |
| rburton | oh sorry qemu | 20:33 |
| rburton | no, 10.0.2.15 is the right ip | 20:33 |
| rburton | 192.168 presumably is your machine's ip? | 20:33 |
| DanmerZ | - You can access the host computer at 192.168.7.1 within the image. | 20:34 |
| DanmerZ | - Your qemu system will be accessible as 192.168.7.2. | 20:34 |
| DanmerZ | this is from poky/scripts/runqemu.README | 20:35 |
| rburton | well, in that case, the qemu networking setup is a bit duff | 20:35 |
| DanmerZ | can I check somehow that sshd service is running? | 20:36 |
| rburton | ps ax | 20:39 |
| rburton | but the IPs not matching might be the problem | 20:39 |
| rburton | runqemu assumes that you've got the qemu networking config files installed in the image | 20:39 |
| rburton | if you don't then networking will be different | 20:39 |
| DanmerZ | 201 root 2924 S /usr/sbin/dropbear -r /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key -p 22 -B | 20:40 |
| DanmerZ | I did not provide any networking config for the image, should I? | 20:43 |
| DanmerZ | Can I provide something useful here ? runqemu qemux86 qemuparams= | 20:45 |
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| alejandrohs | DanmerZ: Can you ssh to localhost from inside qemu? | 22:29 |
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