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| nrossi | khem: you still around? I've noticed an oddity with gcc-runtime and x86 where libatomic/etc override -march (via configure.tgt). Have you seen this? looks like qemux86 avoids compile errors cause it explicitly adds -msse | 00:15 |
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| khem | yes we try to target generic tunes but it is configured for specific | 00:16 |
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| nrossi | khem: so it is correct for libgomp to be compiled like so? ... -m32 -march=core2 -mtune=core2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse ... -march=i486 -mtune=i686 ... libgomp/alloc.c | 00:18 |
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| khem | which tuning are you using | 00:55 |
| khem | generally we nullify what gcc runtime wants to do | 00:56 |
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| nrossi | khem: sorry didn't see your message. The args i just posted are with qemux86, the tune i was using (which has build failures) is custom but is basically just CCARGS "-march=westmere -mtune=btver2 -mfpmath=sse" ontop of tune-x86 | 01:59 |
| nrossi | khem: i think the problem is that this x86 check in configure.tgt (https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=blob;f=libgomp/configure.tgt;h=1863287fa0d4f66cbb4c2421808e4208bdf9e50c;hb=HEAD#l82) is adding those args which are undesirable. It seems to be specific to only a few of libgomp/libatomic/etc. | 02:01 |
| khem | nrossi: only think this will need is atomic instructions and we do not build for i386 so we should be ok to remove this | 02:09 |
| nrossi | khem: you mean remove the addition of the args? or should "--with-arch" be plumbed in for i386? | 02:12 |
| khem | patch the tgt file to not use it | 02:17 |
| nrossi | khem: ok, i presume that is something that is not upstreamable correct? so just an oe-core patch yes? | 02:18 |
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| khem | I think its just for oe since we use own cflags | 02:33 |
| nrossi | khem: is it worth changing it so the detection checks for march in CFLAGS like it checks for -m64/etc.? could make it upstreamable? | 02:35 |
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| nrossi | or is CFLAGS overrides with march just not something upstream supports? | 02:36 |
| khem | yeah if we can implement the logic where it will set it based upon whats in CFLAGS that will perhaps work upstream too | 02:46 |
| nrossi | ok, will have a look into it :) | 02:47 |
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| koty0f | qschulz: erbo: thanks for helping me out yesterday. I solved the issue. `machine-id` file was created by https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/master/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd-systemctl/systemctl#L277 so I patched the file with patchdir=${WORKDIR}. Works like a charm:) | 09:59 |
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| qschulz | koty0f: \o/ | 10:02 |
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| yann | I'm trying to understand how selftests are run: after a build then a failure on first run because of missing package on build host, it refuses to run again because build-st already exists (!?), and if I follow the hint given on IRC of using "-j1" I have the surprise of seeing a new build-st-$PID appearing and everything rebuilding from scratch... | 12:06 |
| yann | isn't there some more reasonable solution, really ? | 12:06 |
| yann | Well, maybe the biggest problem comes from SSTATE_DIR being under TOPDIR - wouldn't it be reasonable to notify the poor soul between chair and keyboard that such a sstate wil just be a problem ? | 12:10 |
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| RP | yann: I guess there are some assumptions in the system about having a "sane" sstate setup by the time you run the selftests | 12:49 |
| RP | yann: TOPDIR isn't wrong as such, its just not optimal for selftest | 12:50 |
| RP | previously we did just reuse the build directory but that wasn't deterministic for the tests so we can't win | 12:50 |
| RobertBerger | @RP I am playing around with dunfell and your SPDX patch. I thought it checks per package, but I see things like this: glibc-2.31+gitAUTOINC+6fdf971c9d-r0 do_package: License for package glibc is {'GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note'} vs GPLv2 & LGPLv2.1. GPL with out the L comes from glibc tests. | 12:53 |
| RP | RobertBerger: it sounds like its looking at the main license rather than the package license? That is possible, I've not looked for a while | 12:54 |
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| RobertBerger | @RP OK - I might have look at it then, as time permits. In general our licensing tooling seems to analyze whatever is built and not e.g. what ends up in the target, meaning too many "false positives". | 12:56 |
| RobertBerger | @RP So I guess, what people usually do, is post processing of the info. | 12:57 |
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| RobertBerger | I think I have a fix for ipk package/feed signing with uses gpg-native, but I am not sure why it uses gpg-native instead of the gpg of my hosts Linux ;) | 13:08 |
| RP | RobertBerger: right, yes. This was purely an experiment to compare the data from the sources with data from the license field | 13:08 |
| RP | RobertBerger: because we don't like dependencies on the host system? I know gpg is a nightmare in the context of the autobuilder and testing | 13:09 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: SPDX: Sure, just looking into how it works and maybe to improve it. It's very interesting. But, as you know, only a few source files use SPDX at all ;) | 13:10 |
| RP | RobertBerger: the kernel isn't "few" and its massively increasing | 13:11 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: SPDX: Yes I know, but it's GPLv2 ;) and one package | 13:12 |
| yann | RP: "not optimal" is an understatement :D | 13:12 |
| RP | yann: I agree it needs improvement and we would take patches which improve things without breaking our testing or getting in users way | 13:13 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: gpg: The latest version on Ubuntu 18 can not deal with "parallel" invocation. It runs out of "secure" memory. gpg-native can deal with it. | 13:13 |
| RP | RobertBerger: hence why we have gpg-native ;-) | 13:14 |
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| RobertBerger | @RP: Yes I know, but it's not used by default ;) | 13:14 |
| RP | RobertBerger: hmm, it should be? :/ | 13:14 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: only for rpms: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/sign_rpm.bbclass#n69 | 13:14 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: I added the last few lines from above to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/sign_ipk.bbclass#n69 | 13:15 |
| RobertBerger | and this seems to fix it ;) | 13:15 |
| RP | RobertBerger: sounds like we need patches and new tests | 13:15 |
| RobertBerger | ipk signing is broken in many ways. | 13:15 |
| RP | RobertBerger: hence the need for tests! | 13:16 |
| RobertBerger | It's tests and doc. | 13:16 |
| RobertBerger | I amused myself a couple of days now to have something, which, I think, works. | 13:16 |
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| RobertBerger | Let me get it in "some" state and I'll show it. | 13:17 |
| RP | RobertBerger: sounds good, its something we do want to be able to support | 13:18 |
| RobertBerger | As far as I can say it's not too bad patch-wise: just those few lines added, but inconsistencies e.g. defaults in the signing classes and opk. opkg default to binary signatures and classes to ASCII. | 13:18 |
| RobertBerger | And also some bbappends for opk and opk-keyring | 13:19 |
| RobertBerger | Let me test it and I'll write up something (including the gpg key stuff) and then we can see how to push this further. | 13:20 |
| RobertBerger | @RP: i am pretty confident we can support it. I tried it with ipk and not rpms, but I think it's very similar there. rpms might be better supported. | 13:21 |
| RP | RobertBerger: I'm fairly sure there are rpm tests | 13:22 |
| RobertBerger | not sure about the situation with keys and rpms, but it should be relatively easy to check this as well. | 13:22 |
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| RobertBerger | One major issues I had was, that key on the target was not "trusted" and I added a new function to "opkg-key" to make it work. | 13:23 |
| yann | RP: is it expected that between 2 runs sharing the same sstate, quite some build tasks need to be rerun ? | 13:23 |
| yann | (oe-selftest runs) | 13:24 |
| RP | yann: depends how you're sharing sstate | 13:24 |
| RP | yann: also depends upon the tests | 13:24 |
| yann | :/ | 13:25 |
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| RP | yann: some tests have to build from scratch and are designed not to pull from or push back into sstate due to what is being tested | 13:26 |
| RP | yann: sorry, is "runs" here selftest runs or normal builds? | 13:27 |
| yann | I just adjusted SSTATE_DIR not to use TOPDIR but an absolute path, so most artifacts are indeed reused from initial build, but my first run failed because sudo wants a password (and I'm not going to change that), so I ran sudo to unlock it thinking it would just have to run the tests now, just not apparently :| | 13:27 |
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| yann | selftest runs only | 13:27 |
| yann | specifically, "oe-selftest -r runtime_test.SystemTap.test_crosstap_helloworld -j 1" | 13:28 |
| RP | yann: the only sudo thing needed is for the tap/tun device. You can preload those in advance, then selftest won't need it | 13:29 |
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| RP | I'd expect that systemtap tests should build mostly from sstate but it will probably include a kernel build since the stap target pieces won't be written to sstate | 13:29 |
| yann | that could be reasonable, but util-linux, sqlite3, libxcb and such are quite unexpected here | 13:31 |
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| RobertBerger | systemtap with a valid SSTATE will not work, since there will be no kernel sources available to build against. | 13:32 |
| RP | yann: are you using hashequiv? | 13:32 |
| yann | no | 13:32 |
| RP | yann: ok, that rules out that idea. I agree those things should be being reused and would like to understand why they're not too :/ | 13:33 |
| yann | at least the test passed | 13:35 |
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| yann | wow, it does indeed rebuild the kernel for each individual systemtap test, even in a single run :/ | 13:47 |
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| RobertBerger | @yann: I am not sure it needs to rebuilt the kernel every time, but it needs the kernel sources and to build a kernel module against it from the .stp script. | 13:58 |
| RobertBerger | @yann So, I guess, we have a very special case with systemtap. If you would use SSTATE or an SSTATE mirror the kernel sources would not be available and it could not build against them. | 14:00 |
| RobertBerger | @yann not sure how this is handled in the tests. --no-setscene I guess, but then again, it builds a lot of stuff. | 14:01 |
| RP | yann: hmm, that doesn't sound good :/ | 14:01 |
| RP | yann: there is definitely a ton of optimisation which could be done in oe-selftest | 14:03 |
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| yann | I don't really see how the qemu's IP address gets passed to the tests themselves - esp. how "crosstap -r root@192.168.7.2 ..." gets to reach qemu (and the fact it requires 30min rebuild each time I attempt to launch this is quickly going to scare me away) | 16:24 |
| RobertBerger | @yann: If you run qemu manually those are the addresses it usually gets. Can you try to run qemu manually somehow and try if those addresses 7.1 and 7.1 are valid? | 16:28 |
| RobertBerger | 7.1 and 7.2 | 16:28 |
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| yann | RobertBerger: yes it does get that when running "runqemu", however that still blocks on sudo even with tun and tap kmodules loaded | 16:34 |
| marex | yann: shouldnt your user be in some group which can configure the tun/tap OR dont you need an entry in sudoers ? | 16:37 |
| marex | khem: can you pick 'freerdp: Add missing libxkbcommon WL dependency' for meta-openembedded please ? | 16:37 |
| khem | is it on ml ? if not send it | 16:40 |
| yann | marex: requiring a group would seem reasonable, but the script really seems to like sudo :| | 16:40 |
| marex | khem: it is | 16:40 |
| yann | there is runqemu-gen-tapdevs too, but that's quite intrusive on the system, too | 16:40 |
| moto-timo | yann: have you run the runqemu-gentap-devs command? that uid:gid should be the user/group that will actually be running qemu/testimage | 16:40 |
| moto-timo | ah... | 16:40 |
| marex | khem: https://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/175616/ | 16:41 |
| moto-timo | I've been working on a systemd solution to have tap devices created at startup, but it hasn't been smooth so far | 16:41 |
| yann | that one seems really suitable for a container that will run tests, but not for a workstation | 16:41 |
| * moto-timo not a networking expert | 16:41 | |
| moto-timo | yann: I have always used the runqemu-gen-tapdevs and I create (if it doesn't exist) a netdev group | 16:42 |
| moto-timo | so my user and the CI system are both members of netdev | 16:42 |
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| moto-timo | but I am still in search of a cleaner solution with systemd | 16:42 |
| yann | IIRC I was using something for qemu networking that did not have such root perms requirement, in a previous life (and time flies, I'll have to re-dig from scratch) | 16:44 |
| moto-timo | slirp, but that is user space and slower | 16:44 |
| moto-timo | I won't intentionally use any tool that is slower | 16:44 |
| khem | marex: its already in master did you check ? | 16:45 |
| moto-timo | also, I won't intentionally run things that require root perms... you get only the perms you need | 16:45 |
| moto-timo | running containers as --privileged. NO. | 16:46 |
| yann | no that was not slirp. things come gradually back into main memory as I browse the docs | 16:46 |
| marex | khem: d'oh, I was still rebasing on dunfell ... so, I guess i should send another patch for dunfell too | 16:48 |
| marex | khem: thanks for the heads up | 16:48 |
| yann | I was using the socket backend. The use-case was different, essentially inter-VM communiactions. I had a specific qemu process (with processor not running, kinda kludgy) acting solely as a network switch (with the equivalent of "-netdev socket,id=mynet0,listen=:1234" passed by the controlling process to create ports on the switch, dynamically), and the VM's connecting with "-netdev socket,id=mynet0,connect=:1234" | 16:50 |
| moto-timo | yann: interesting | 16:51 |
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| yann | and I probably had a special port on that virtual switch that was bridged to a permanent tap device | 16:51 |
| moto-timo | that would make sense... | 16:51 |
| yann | that way I only had a single-shot config as root, and everything else unpriviledged | 16:51 |
| moto-timo | there are many things in runqemu and oe-selftest that made sense at the time but could use some updates... | 16:52 |
| moto-timo | or "there I fixed it" solutions where it worked and nobody ever went back to re-factor it | 16:52 |
| moto-timo | plus teams have changed... so continuity of devs is a factor | 16:53 |
| yann | sure :) | 16:53 |
| yann | and the tap solution is the one advertized everywhere, so usually people take the road with signs :) | 16:53 |
| moto-timo | indeed | 16:54 |
| moto-timo | to be honest, I frequently take the command that 'runqemu' outputs and tweak it manually, but the simpler starting point is still welcome :) | 16:55 |
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| RP | the tap solution works out really well on the automated testing which helps a bit too | 16:59 |
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| marex | khem: do you want me to submit it or can you pick it for 3.2 and 3.1 ? | 18:17 |
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| kergoth | I just realized I'm procrastinating by watching a ted talk on procrastination. | 18:19 |
| Shaun | I can only hope it's the Sam Battle one | 18:21 |
| kergoth | it is now | 18:24 |
| kergoth | :) | 18:24 |
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| khem | kergoth: is it the one by Tim Urban ? its so funny | 20:10 |
| kergoth | khem: yeah. instant gratitification monkey <3 | 20:10 |
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| kergoth | his blog post on the subject is good too. actually a lot of his posts are on wait but why | 20:10 |
| khem | yeah, but I think procrastination is also helpful, because it does not end the thread but puts it to sleep, so subconscious is still processing it :) | 20:11 |
| kergoth | true, i think it depends on whether it's preventing you from taking action at all, or if it's a stepping away from it for a time | 20:13 |
| khem | multithreaded concurrent systems are efficient | 20:13 |
| khem | only problem is concurrency should not be left to everybody | 20:13 |
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| khem | sometimes its helping you to take action that you are not yet ready for | 20:14 |
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| khem | which is to 'defer' | 20:15 |
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| mischief | how does file-rdeps QA check work with virtual recipes? a recipe we have is failing the file-rdeps QA check, but we do have a provider for the required library in a virtual DEPENDS | 21:33 |
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| Shikadi | I have a (hopefully) easy question, I found online bitbake --interactive, which doesn't seem to exist in my setup. Was this feature moved/removed? I'd like to for example be able to run "bitbake -f -c compile package_a" followed by "bitbake package_b" without reloading all the recipes every time | 21:54 |
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| mischief | it looks to me like the file-rdeps QA check ignores PROVIDES and PREFERRED_PROVIDER. is this intentional or a bug? | 22:51 |
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| Shikadi | Answer to my question was "bitbake --server-only -T -1" in case anyone curious reads the scrollback | 23:27 |
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