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| RP | kanavin_home: looks like we have intermittent reproducibility issues in grub, u-boot-tools and man :/ | 09:44 |
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| RP | had hoped I'd fixed the grub one but obviously not entirely :( | 09:45 |
| kanavin_home | RP: the easy way out is to add them to the exception list :-/ | 09:48 |
| kanavin_home | RP: the problem with that is things that break reproducibility intermittently would get merged, then fail to reproduce much later, and the list would just keep growing | 09:49 |
| RP | kanavin_home: the u-boot-tools one looks like somehow LOCALVERSION is set on one builder | 09:49 |
| RP | kanavin_home: the grub one looks like file linking commands changing order as far as I can tell | 09:49 |
| RP | kanavin_home: its also possible hash equivalence is "infecting" things :( I'm noticing a growing problem with that :( | 09:50 |
| RP | kanavin_home: I know what you mean about not wanting the list to grow | 09:50 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: somehow the build of u-boot-tools on debian9-ty-2 has the version with "-dirty" on the end, even though when I run the command that should generate that, it doesn't any more :/ | 11:23 |
| * RP pauses that worker until he can look properly | 11:25 | |
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| RP | kanavin_home: you'll love the "fix" for u-boot | 12:14 |
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| kanavin_home | RP: yikes. I never looked at u-boot, as it never showed up in my tests. | 12:55 |
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| RP | kanavin_home: found the second grub issue too (I hope) | 14:49 |
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| tlwoerner | jonesv[m]: there is no such thing as a default bootloader. typically someone (or some company) will put in the effort to port one bootloader to a given board/SoC, and that becomes the bootloader for that board | 22:55 |
| tlwoerner | in theory any bootloader could boot any board… if someone ports it | 22:56 |
| tlwoerner | but in practice there is generally one bootloader for a given board | 22:56 |
| tlwoerner | jonesv[m]: *in general* grub is used for x86 boards and u-boot for everything else | 22:57 |
| tlwoerner | jonesv[m]: every board is special, but with the raspberry pi, it is even more special (special-er?) | 22:58 |
| tlwoerner | jonesv[m]: when the rpi comes out of reset, it is the GPU that gets run first | 22:59 |
| tlwoerner | it is then the job of the GPU to start up the CPU(s), then load the next stage of the boot | 22:59 |
| tlwoerner | on the raspberry pi the GPU can boot linux directly (GPU → linux), or it can optionally chain-load u-boot (GPU → u-boot → linux) | 23:00 |
| tlwoerner | jonesv[m]: i don't know much about fastboot, that's an android thing. it is used on boards like the dragonboard to load your image into the onboard eMMC via the OTG port | 23:01 |
| tlwoerner | but that's because fastboot is supported in the SoC's firmware | 23:02 |
| tlwoerner | in the yocto world we rely on the BSP layer for the board to know which bootloader to use and to build and set it up properly | 23:03 |
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