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| vdl | I still get "No IMAGE_CMD defined for IMAGE_FSTYPES entry 'container'", something's wrong with the bbclass | 01:14 |
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| vdl | shouldn't IMAGE_CMD_container be defined or inherited somehow? | 01:16 |
| dl9pf | link? | 01:19 |
| smurray | I don't believe that's required since it has IMAGE_TYPEDEP_container = "tar.bz2 mean | 01:19 |
| smurray | s/ mean$// | 01:19 |
| vdl | what's wrong then? | 01:23 |
| vdl | dl9pf: link to what? | 01:23 |
| smurray | vdl: it's working for me here in a couple of tests I just did with poky master | 01:32 |
| vdl | smurray: I'm using bitbake+oe-core directly, would that matter? | 01:32 |
| zeddii | khem: yah, if we want the qemuppc64 machine to be le by default, I can merge that into the BSP description in the kernel-cache, and everything 'just works'. | 01:32 |
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| smurray | vdl: I wouldn't expect it to, all the bits are in oe-core | 01:33 |
| smurray | vdl: my one test was to just copy core-image-minimal.bb to container-image-minimal.bb in a test layer and add IMAGE_FSTYPES = "container" to it, might be worth trying that to see if it works for you | 01:34 |
| vdl | ok | 01:35 |
| smurray | vdl: and you'll need to have PREFFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-dummy" somewhere (potentially with an override like _forcevariable if in local.conf) | 01:36 |
| smurray | oops, PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel, typing too fast | 01:36 |
| vdl | smurray: hmm isn't the purpose of the container type to skip the kernel compilation? | 01:37 |
| smurray | vdl: that's what linux-dummy is for, allows the dependencies to still be met | 01:37 |
| vdl | smurray: still the same issue (without specifying linux-dummy yet) | 01:41 |
| vdl | it's a parsing error though (if that helps) | 01:41 |
| smurray | vdl: it's hard to know w/o seeing your config | 01:41 |
| smurray | vdl: if this is in a tree with a bunch of other stuff, might be worth doing a quick test in a bare setup | 01:42 |
| smurray | vdl: I have to get some dinner, will be around tomorrow if you've not debugged it | 01:43 |
| vdl | smurray: thank you, enjoy your meal! | 01:43 |
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| vdl | smurray: I've successfully built core-image-minimal with IMAGE_FSTYPES = "container" with bare minimum. I've nailed the problem down to my distro. Switching to poky does compile a container image, so my distro (not based on poky) clearly misses some lines to make the "container" type work. | 06:17 |
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| RP | JPEW, kanavin: I think diffoscope is partly so slow on the autobuilder as its running on NFS. Could we run diffoscope on a local copy of the packages instead of in the saved output dir? | 12:25 |
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| nacknick | Hello. if I have "bz2" file after building, should I flash that file or should I decompress it first? | 14:53 |
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| kanavin | RP: I guess JPEW is better equipped to answer this, as he wrote the code :) | 15:09 |
| RP | kanavin: probably, just wondered if one of you wanted to tweak it :) | 15:17 |
| RP | kanavin, JPEW: I'm very slowly picking off some of the reproducibility issues. I'm also rather depressed with some of the patches we're carrying, some are quite scary/shocking :( | 15:18 |
| jonesv[m] | I am having a hard time with kernel modules. If I build them in the kernel (=y), then it's fine, but when I have them as module (=m), they don't seem to get on my image. I tried to add the following to my machine `*.conf`, and I would expect it to fail at build time, but it doesn't: `MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-foo"` | 15:20 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: a lot would depend on whether the image you're using uses that variable | 15:21 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: did you try adding to IMAGE_INSTALL directly? | 15:21 |
| RP | (Just to rule that out) | 15:21 |
| jonesv[m] | aha, I am using my own small image on top of core-minimal. Let me read about IMAGE_INSTALL, not sure how to use it | 15:22 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: I'd guess minimal is being very minimal and not including those dependencies | 15:23 |
| jonesv[m] | RP: also, where can I find a list of kernel-modules that exist as packages in Yocto? I want a usb gadget, and I would like to `modprobe u_ether` for instance, but I would need to see if a package called `kernel-module-u-ether` exists and install it, right? | 15:23 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: have a look in tmp/deploy/<package format>/ | 15:24 |
| jonesv[m] | <RP "jonesv: I'd guess minimal is bei"> But shouldn't `MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS` tell it to include them? | 15:24 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: minimal image behaves a little differently to the other images | 15:24 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: I think that is why MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS exists | 15:25 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: you could try adding to that | 15:25 |
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| jonesv[m] | right. Let me first try with IMAGE_INSTALL in my image recipe :) | 15:26 |
| RP | jonesv[m]: IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " kernel-module-foo" | 15:26 |
| RP | note the space | 15:26 |
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| jonesv[m] | RP: so I added `kernel-module-g-ether` to `IMAGE_INSTALL`, built the image, and now I don't find it in `/lib/modules/5.4.58-yocto-standard/`... but that's where it should be, right? | 15:38 |
| jonesv[m] | `$ lsmod` says "Not tainted", so I assume that I have no module loaded | 15:39 |
| * jonesv[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HxBExImBnUZtCVaLsHHepzWh/message.txt > | 15:39 | |
| jonesv[m] | I think there is really something I'm missing with kernel modules 😕. Maybe I should stay with `(=y)` and give up with them, but I would like to understand how it's supposed to work | 15:40 |
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| jonesv[m] | BTW RP : what did you mean with "minimal image behaves a little differently to the other images"? Where could I see what it doesn't do that "other images" do? | 15:49 |
| jonesv[m] | aha! I needed to add `kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-usb-f-eem` to `IMAGE_INSTALL`, and now I can `modprobe g_ether` and it creates a new network interface 🎉. Now I need to understand where I should actually add those two packages (probably not in `IMAGE_INSTALL`, looking into `MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS`) | 15:56 |
| jonesv[m] | <jonesv[m] "BTW RP : what did you mean with "> Ok I got it: | 15:59 |
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| vdl | What distro (or machine?) features does the "container" IMAGE_FSTYPES require? I can compile a container image on poky but not on my poky-less distro. What could I be missing? | 17:32 |
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| kanavin | RP: I hope none of those ugly patches carry my name :) can you point to some particularly bad examples? | 17:47 |
| kanavin | err, 'good' examples | 17:47 |
| kanavin | notable examples :D | 17:47 |
| kanavin | interesting examples! | 17:47 |
| armpit | example examples | 17:59 |
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| khem | zeddii: that perhaps will be good way to go | 18:05 |
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| vdl | does linux-dummy prevents compiling the bootloader? | 19:02 |
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| smurray | vdl: I suspect it's not linux-dummy per se, but rather the minimal dependencies that the container image class has resulting in it not being a dependency | 19:31 |
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| smurray | vdl: the assumption is a "container" image does not boot, hence no bootloader | 19:31 |
| vdl | smurray: yeah for the bootloader question I was wondering if I must set the preferred virtual/bootloader to dummy or something (similar to linux-dummy) | 19:33 |
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| smurray | vdl: I've never seen that required in my use of it | 19:34 |
| smurray | vdl: but that's mostly been relatively simple things | 19:34 |
| vdl | smurray: I'm creating a foo-dummy machine to specify IMAGE_FSTYPES = "container", PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-dummy", and IMAGE_INSTALL_remove = "kernel-devicetree". I guess such dedicated machine definition is the proper way to specify the hardware to build a container image for, correct? | 19:37 |
| smurray | vdl: it's definitely one way, I've done it for some of my container examples for talks on it | 19:39 |
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| smurray | vdl: in a multiconfig setup, it could be potentially done in the multiconfig conf file instead of carrying an extra machine definition just for that | 19:41 |
| vdl | I see | 19:42 |
| smurray | kind of depends what you think is easier wrt maintenance | 19:42 |
| vdl | I'm still struggling to understand the difference between having two kas files (assuming you're using kas) and a multiconfig. I guess the thing with multiconfig is that you can e.g. embedded configA.tar.xz into configB.wic for example, is that correct? | 19:43 |
| smurray | vdl: yes | 19:46 |
| vdl | smurray: in my case it's actually a good thing to separate the generic hardware architecture from the board details (dts and such), so foo-dummy sounds reasonable | 19:46 |
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| vdl | how can I set the full image link name to "sdcard.img"? | 20:45 |
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| vdl | smurray: actually can an image recipe set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel? That seems odd. | 20:58 |
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| smurray | vdl: in general no, since it's global configuration used by multiple recipes | 21:17 |
| smurray | vdl: it might happen to work with something like a specific build of a container image recipe that did it, but it'd be fragile | 21:18 |
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| vdl | thank you | 21:49 |
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| RP | dl9pf: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/52/builds/3070 - don't understand why we're getting those warnings yet but they're from the SDE patch :( | 21:52 |
| RP | kanavin: don't think any have your name :) | 21:52 |
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