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Ad0if I have 2 machines that is really the same machine, but with some variations like what device overlays to load and some config.txt settings, what is the correct approach? machine B requires most of machine A, but script files related to the machine are common. should I just symlink the files in question?12:40
qschulzAd0: can you detect at runtime which device overlays should be loaded?12:42
qschulze.g. do you have a way to tell at runtime if it's machine A or machine B?12:42
Ad0it's raspberry pi 3b both of them but they will have different hats , thus different overlays, thus different "machines"12:43
Ad0isn't the right thing to do to have them as separate machines?12:43
Ad0they will have 2 different functions as machines as well12:44
Ad0I also have a compute module with completely different hardware etc so that's also a separate machine. but these in question are common hardware and script wise, mostly12:45
Ad0I just don't want to maintain 2 different sets of systemd services that are really the same, could you specify yocto dir search hints in the machine perhaps hehe12:46
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qschulzAd0: use MACHINEOVERRIDES to add machineA in machineB or vice-versa13:18
Ad0nice13:18
qschulzBUT, you have to know that this will make it impossible to have something specific to machineA but not machineB13:18
qschulzso, this works only if machineA is a subset of machineB13:19
qschulzor, you make a machineincAB if you want and add this to both machines' MACHINEOVERRIDES13:20
qschulzin which case machineincAB is the common denominator13:20
Ad0ok so I rename the directories that are common to machineAB from old A, and add MACHINEOVERRIDES =. "machineAB" to both A and B machine files13:22
Ad0and in the install scripts I rename do_install_append_machineA to do_install_append_machineAB13:24
Ad0that solves all my problems!13:24
Ad0thanks a lot13:24
Ad0"this will make it impossible to have something specific to machineA but not machineB" - hm that might be a problem13:33
Ad0I think machineAB is the best13:33
Ad0does machineAB have to exist in the machines dir?13:34
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Ad0poky/meta/conf/machine/include/qemu.inc:MACHINEOVERRIDES =. "qemuall:"13:37
Ad0seems like it doesn't have to be an actual machine13:38
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qschulzit does not have to be no14:02
qschulzdon't forget the `:` character in MACHINEOVERRIDES14:02
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Ad0done. thanks qschulz this worked14:20
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qschulzAd0: very welcome14:38
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qschulzI'm trying to understand why http://sstate.yoctoproject.org/3.1.6/ mirror is only matched for 2% of sstate-cache on Ubuntu 16.04/20.04 for core-image-minimal for qemuarm64? only poky 3.1.6 is cloned, no dirty git15:48
JaMais qemuarm64 built on AB? 2% could be just the native bits15:52
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Ad0qschulz, yocto impresses me by it's flexibility16:08
qschulzJaMa: don't know, how am I supposed to know :p ?16:11
qschulzs/how am I supposed to know/how can I check/ ?16:12
armpitJaMa, yes qemuarm64 is built in various configuration on the AB16:13
JaMaqschulz: I've asked the same a while ago in https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2019-June/045670.html16:13
armpithow much of a match would we expect if glibc or gcc change?16:14
qschulzShouldn't that be handled by uninative? (still trying to wrap my head around what this uninative thing is really doing)16:15
JaMaI don't expect any match with my builds, that's why I don't use it :)16:15
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qschulzin which case is this sstate-cache mirror actually useful if even a vanilla poky does not match a good amount of it? (long story short, preparing a company training and wanted to make use of this sstate-cache mirror to quicken the setup)16:20
qschulzanyway, gotta go, discussion for next week :) happy easter to those celebrating, nice week-end to all :)16:20
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* paulg wasn't going to send a patch series on April 1st.18:05
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armpitpaulg, you should have18:52
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paulgPeople probably already have a hard enough time taking me serious as it is.  :-P18:54
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ad__hi, what's proper step to rebuild for a different MACHINE ? do i have to -c cleansstate ?19:58
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RPpaulg: I'm sorry to say I don't really like those patches :/22:16
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RPpaulg: I think in trying to avoid changing the fetcher "too much", its hurting the implementation. I think it should be possible to do this in a way which initially looks more invasive but in reality is less so...22:29
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paulgRP,  ok -- well my availability will be spotty over the next few days, but I'll try and at least keep up with e-mails.22:47
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paulgfetcher specifics aside, are you at least OK with the general concept of how to share stuff?22:50
paulg(i.e. fetch-only meta pkgs)22:51
RPpaulg: I agree we need to share stuff. How (and if) we expose that to the user is the question22:51
RPpaulg: the fetch only meta pkgs actually make me sad, I don't like them at all22:51
RPpaulg: the user shouldn't need to know/care about that22:52
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paulgwell, like I said in the 0/22 - until I see/hear of something better that can be made to work, this is what we've got.23:06
paulgso I'm all ears wrt. to hearing about a better way.23:06
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SpoosterI was able to trace my raspberrypi4-64 accelerated graphics driver issue down to a failing IOCTL, that likely throws a permission denied in chrome23:29
Spoosterit's absolutely throwing a permission denied in kmscube23:29
SpoosterDRM_IOCTL_PRIME_HANDLE_TO_FD23:30
SpoosterI am quickly approaching the "dog chasing the ice-cream truck" scenario where I don't know what to do with this once I've gotten here...23:30
Spoosterwould someone who's done slightly more kernel development than my astounding 0 hours step in, and point me in the right direction to dig into kernel source to figure out what this IOCTL is up to?23:31
SpoosterI'm not really sure how to phrase my question... I think I'm just trying to figure out what this IOCTL does... and I don't really know how to find what this does in whatever version of the kernel that comes with my machine here...23:33
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