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| kanavin | I'm yet to see an official announcement on the yocto mailing lists, until then I stay here :) | 11:47 |
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| RP | kanavin: We are moving FWIW | 11:56 |
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| yates | is there a definition of all (or most) of the data definitions which can ba d.getVar'ed in "d"? | 12:48 |
| yates | all the variables, that is | 12:48 |
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| matthewcroughan_ | I got kicked from the Yocto matrix server. | 16:26 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Noooo | 16:26 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Appservice kicked me for "not being registered" like it was IRC, or somehting. | 16:26 |
| matthewcroughan_ | I have a question about OE. Can I use _remove on CORE_IMAGE_BASE_INSTALL. | 16:27 |
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| shoragan | matthewcroughan_, the matrix channel is now bridged to libera.chat. and the channel there is set to require registration | 16:32 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Heh, that's a bit conovluted :P | 16:33 |
| shoragan | you can talk to @NickServ:libera.chat to register you nick there. | 16:33 |
| matthewcroughan_ | So what you mean is that the matrix channel was deleted, in favor of using IRC. | 16:33 |
| matthewcroughan_ | And that I can connect to it, using the libera bridge? | 16:33 |
| shoragan | no | 16:33 |
| shoragan | the matrix channel still exists. but the bridge makes sure that all users are also on the IRC side. if they can't join, they'll be kicked | 16:34 |
| matthewcroughan_ | So you're saying that I need to verify with the libera bridge, to get into the Yocto matrix channel/ | 16:34 |
| shoragan | yep | 16:34 |
| matthewcroughan_ | That's really really weird, I don't know anybody who does that. | 16:34 |
| matthewcroughan_ | I also don't like it, so I won't do that :D | 16:34 |
| shoragan | the bridge is still work in progress :/ | 16:34 |
| matthewcroughan_ | I will join using the bridge, but I will not go through that route. | 16:34 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Have you got any other examples of people using bridges for verifcation prior to entering the Matrix channel? | 16:35 |
| shoragan | you can also join #yocto on libera.chat via irc directly | 16:35 |
| matthewcroughan_ | shoragan: If I use the bridge, on matrix, that's essentally direct, by comparison to what you've suggested I do. | 16:35 |
| shoragan | matthewcroughan_, it's probably temporary until the bridge users can be exempted by their cloack | 16:35 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Why do matrix-native users have to verify with some IRC thing, prior to joining the matrix channel? | 16:36 |
| matthewcroughan_ | For example, in order to join this Yocto IRC, it is not required that people first verify with a Matrix server/bridge. | 16:36 |
| matthewcroughan_ | If that was the case, it wouldn't make a lot of sense, right? | 16:36 |
| shoragan | the "issue" is the -r mode on the irc channel on libera.caht | 16:36 |
| shoragan | so the irc channel requires registration. and with the bridge, that (currently) also applies to used using matrix as their "irc" client | 16:38 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Ah I see, and I guess the bridge actually creates an instance of a user per user right? | 16:38 |
| matthewcroughan_ | Of which, each one must be registered? | 16:38 |
| shoragan | yes, *currently*, until we can exempt the matrix users | 16:38 |
| matthewcroughan_ | I think my name is too long to register lol | 16:46 |
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| matthewcroughan_ | You've been connected to the IRC network 'irc.libera.chat' as matthewcroughan[. User modes +R have been set. | 16:51 |
| matthewcroughan_ | See how the [m] is cut off? God damnit | 16:51 |
| ndec | shoragan: i've been fighting with the same issue myself.. i think it's a big downside of the bridge. it forces matrix users which might not even know that IRC exist off the channel.. | 16:56 |
| ndec | it kind of does the opposite of what we wanted, no? | 16:56 |
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| ndec | so a matrix only user now needs to register an IRC nick to join #yocto. and an existing IRC user needs to register a new nick with irc.libera.chat to join #yocto from matrix (especially if the same user needs to join other IRC channel directly without matrix)... | 17:00 |
| RP | ndec: can't we -r the channel? I know it helps with spam but would seem a short term better solution | 17:00 |
| ndec | that would be a solution, indeed. | 17:01 |
| ndec | RP: matthewcroughan_ : i've done -r, so you should be able to rejoin #yocto from matrix. can you please try? | 17:05 |
| shoragan | ndec, you can use /mode +be $~a *!*@2001:470:69fc:105::/64 instead of -r. that bans all unauthenticated users but exempts the matrix bridge. | 17:07 |
| shoragan | in general, i've not seen much span on libera.chat in the smaller channels | 17:07 |
| ndec | that would let all matrix users go through? without having to register their nick? | 17:07 |
| shoragan | yes, it should. they need to have a registered nick on the matrix side anyway | 17:08 |
| shoragan | s/nick/account' | 17:08 |
| ndec | you mean a matrix user account? | 17:08 |
| ndec | ah.. | 17:08 |
| shoragan | and you can ban them on them matrix side pretty effectively | 17:09 |
| shoragan | (if that ever becomes necessary) | 17:10 |
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| alephan | What is the channel name on libera? | 18:58 |
| alephan | Yocto or yoctoproject? | 18:58 |
| fray | same as here | 18:59 |
| alephan | Right. How do we use the matrix one? | 18:59 |
| alephan | Or do we use it at all? | 19:00 |
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| fray | not sure what you mean.. just connect an IRC client to the other server and connect to the channel | 19:07 |
| fray | only reason many of us are still in this channel is to help direct people to the other server, if needed | 19:07 |
| paulg | "other server". | 19:09 |
| paulg | Afraid if you say it out loud three times you'll turn to stone? :-P | 19:09 |
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| rpcme49 | hello all, I am having a challenge on the mainline - has the compiler been upgraded there recently (this is x86_64 qemu)? I am having a build break in s2n which doesn't occur on zeus/dunfell/gatesgarth. A couple people internally have inferred that there is some bad/incorrect platform datatype definition which is a bit concerning: | 19:16 |
| rpcme49 | https://pastebin.com/DNLnBgUf | 19:16 |
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| RP | rpcme49: we are using the latest gcc 11 | 19:18 |
| paulg | pretty much every new gcc comes with new warning checks enabled ; add -Werror and new build failures result. | 19:20 |
| rpcme49 | okay thanks - I saw it was new - the semantic version is like maybe 10 or 12 days ago? I will download gcc separately at v 11 and repro on just plain ol ubuntu 18.04 and get it back to the s2n devs | 19:20 |
| RP | rpcme49: we're trying to stay with their stable updates as in theory that should let us pull in fixes | 19:21 |
| rpcme49 | this is really good I think:) it will also keep us on our toes! | 19:21 |
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| RP | abelloni: are you heading over the libera? https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/101/builds/2384 looks to be webkit causing load :( | 19:40 |
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| abelloni | RP: yes, I will | 20:08 |
| RP | abelloni: we have better logs in the above build failure in the builddir but it just shows the process is running at nice -5 and still not managing to start qemu in 120s :( | 20:11 |
| RP | it is running webkit and llvm builds, this is looking to be a pattern | 20:11 |
| RP | alimon: around? I think we're seeing a problem with timeouts in ptest-runner :( | 20:25 |
| RP | alimon: Should the signal(SIGALRM, timeout_child_handler); be in the parent only and not the child? | 20:28 |
| RP | alimon: actually, I think its the alarm and different pthreads... | 20:39 |
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| RP | alimon: sorry, I now think this test really did timeout. The output is rather confusing :/ | 21:19 |
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| alejandrohs | I'm starting to wonder if we should really call an ERROR when a setscene task failed, the "real" one runs instead and succeeds so the build actually was successful | 22:30 |
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| RP | alejandrohs: silently ignoring it just means people pay no attention when there is likely something that needs fixing | 22:52 |
| RP | alejandrohs: its like ignoring disk bad sector errors as it was a write and it found somewhere else to write the data so it was "fine" | 22:53 |
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| alejandrohs | yeah I guess youre right, if its something transient however it triggers a false alarm | 22:58 |
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