Wednesday, 2021-06-30

rfs613abelloni: seems the error might be in coreutils, building sort.c (line 5024 of the log)00:25
rfs613and is it really coreutils version 6.9? that was released in 2007...00:30
khemabelloni: can you add # include <stdlib.h> to sort.c00:30
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mihaimorning05:47
khemabelloni: I sent a patch which should potentially fix the coreutils issue in meta-gplv2 please try it out https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/topic/meta_gplv2_patch/83886218?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,8388621805:52
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userhello world06:53
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mckoangood morning06:58
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX08:05
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mckoandl9pf: do you have any news?08:16
abellonirfs613: yes, this is the last version to be under the gplv2 license which is what we want for meta-gplv2 ;)08:25
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RPrburton: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=173205d13f06a89de3802b8143559422d61b116e thoughts?  not ideal but...12:07
rburtonthat's horrible but it might just work12:10
RPrburton: I'll sent it for testing. I dislike other options a lot more12:12
LetoThe2nd"whenever i see a boolean in an api call i am sure that its a design error" </michael kerrisk>12:12
LetoThe2nd(or at least pretty close)12:12
RPLetoThe2nd: better options very welcome ;-)12:12
rburtonwhilst that's an admirable design goal, filling the world with enums sucks and named arguments do help make it clear12:13
LetoThe2ndRP: heh, just pulling your leg. actually his solution was to add a flags field, but i wouldn't say that best practises from kernel c code (thats where i ripped the quote out) should necessarily be applied to python in bitbake.12:14
RPrburton: hate to say it but the connectivity check does use the fetcher API calls so should have the right env12:15
RPLetoThe2nd: I know. I did use a named parameter here which helps12:16
LetoThe2nd:)12:16
RPI probably should explicitly use it on the other call sites12:16
rfs613abelloni: gotcha... though out of curiosity, are you backporting CVE fixes?12:39
RPrfs613: "we" have some deep reservations about that layer :/12:43
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rburtonRP: whaaaaaaa12:51
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LetoThe2ndwa13:15
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thekappehello guys !13:19
thekappeI usually install files with "install" in my recipes. but what about installing folders ?13:20
rburtonyou can use cp with the right options to not preserve ownership13:21
overridethekappe: I was actually trying stuff around that too yesterday, and I ended up using cp13:21
thekappethanks guys13:22
dl9pfmckoan: got sidetracked13:23
overrideSetting up custom target for a systemd service. Wondering if this recipe looks horribily wrong, or am I heading in the right direction. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/84qCQhTXmJ/13:26
rburtonyeah don't do that13:45
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rburtonsystemctl can set up those links for you13:46
TartarusHere's a funny question that's maybe been solved post-dunfell.  Can you have a systemd distro that doesn't pull systemd in to say core-image-minimal-initramfs via the udev dependency?13:47
LetoThe2ndTartarus: DISTRO_FEATURES += "systemd-but-actually-not-systemd"?13:48
TartarusWell, I could have sworn that it wasn't long ago that the initramfs was kicked off with /init or /linuxrc as the init system before doing a pivot_root13:49
overriderburton: Im a little confused about those custom targets. Systemctl would somehow set those up too?13:52
TartarusI'm firing off a few test builds so I can have more pointed questions later, but I was wondering if this rung a bell for anyone atm13:52
rburtonTartarus: build an initramfs without udev and you won't get any of that.13:53
Tartarusrburton: Maybe?  Also debugging this for both customer project and as of 5 minutes ago, upstream.  Just dropped udev and still see systemd stuff, but digging more on $customer-initramfs13:54
TartarusOnly about 53% in on oe-core itself build13:54
overridekinda lost here, Tartarus: are you talking to me or just discussing some other systemd related stuff :P ?13:58
Tartarusoverride: Other systemd stuff :)13:59
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overriderburton: I'd still have to bring over the custom target related files if I were to use systemctl?14:03
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dl9pfTartarus: hmm maybe look at our netboot initrd ... but need to check if it now does pull systemd in or not meanwhile14:05
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patrick-rAfternoon, does anyone know what does provide  the localectl command in terms of what I should include in my local.conf14:06
patrick-rI already have gllibc glibc-utils and localedef14:07
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dl9pfTartarus: https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/snapshots/master/latest/qemux86-64/deploy/images/qemux86-64/initramfs-netboot-image-qemux86-64-20210629021751.rootfs.manifest14:07
dl9pfno systemd (but also no udev), all busybox14:08
TartarusThanks14:08
dl9pfhttps://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/meta-agl.git;a=blob;f=meta-netboot/recipes-core/images/initramfs-netboot-image_netboot.inc;h=0c97b0f932577560b69141535b4e21cae93e4be5;hb=HEAD14:09
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fullstopwhen using opkg to upgrade multiple packages it seems like systemctl daemon-reload is called many times (for packages which use systemd).  Is it at all possible to defer this until the end of the operation?14:37
fullstopIf not, perhaps I need to understand why daemon-reload takes a few seconds on my platform.14:37
rburtoniirc opkg doesn't support triggers so even if we implemented delayed triggered on upgrades, they wouldn't work with opkg14:39
fullstopbummer14:39
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booRP, heh - interesting to see the cgroup dain bramage was screwing the ARM guys as well.   Wonder how long they were staring at it wondering wtf....16:21
rburtonyeah mark mentioned that they were hitting it on monday16:24
boohttps://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210630161036.GA43693@sirena.org.uk/    <---- for the people following along at home16:28
booI've still not quite worked out if it was a hard problem to solve, or I'm just dumb and slow...  :-P16:29
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booNote that I left out "old" as I'm pretty sure on that part.16:29
rburtoni'm going with 'hard'16:31
rburtoni got lost reading your explanation ;)16:31
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rburtonRP: ah, so the qemus in testimage don't have access to the internet then18:10
rburtonRP: i had a cool new qa test https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/109/builds/2544/steps/12/logs/stdio18:10
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khemfullstop:  daemons-reload is a heavy operation, it parses whole system units  and tries to reconstruct the dep tree so depending upon CPU muscle and disk speed it can take long or less log18:21
fullstopyeah, it takes about 5s per call18:22
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kanavinrburton, you might be interested in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=akanavin/package-version-updates-later18:44
kanavinrpm 4.17 beta with sqlite and zstd18:44
kanavinit works :)18:44
kanavinand does improve do_rootfs and do_populate_sdk times, although not drastically - some 15-30% in oe-core images. You need much larger packages for the drastic effect.18:45
fraygetting rid of berkleydb will help avoid a number of locking issues I still see...18:45
kanavinfray, getting rid of bdb means we don't have an orphaned component in the middle of the system18:48
kanavinI'd suggest that once rpm is switched over, we disable bdb support in perl and friends and kick out the recipe18:49
frayI'm fine with that18:50
khemyes sqlite+zstd is definitely better even if we have to work through it. Long term its better19:17
kanavinit was surprisingly painless to switch over19:20
kanavinzstd has radically better decompression speed, but you need gigabytes of data to notice19:21
kanavincompression-wise it's radically better only if you're willing to make the compressed files larger, which I guess people have different opinions about19:23
kanavinI'd say as hard drives get faster and bigger and networks get faster we should optimize for pipeline speed rather than artefact size19:23
kanavinI'd take 2Gb SDK that takes 10 seconds to compress and decompress over 1.5 Gb SDK that takes 2 minutes to do either any day19:24
kanavin(that's typical numbers for zstd vs xz)19:24
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fray2 G vs 1.5 G.. I need it to be 1.5 G because a lot of web servers won't server files at 2 G or larger.. :P19:32
frayI don't mind the 2 minutes to compress, but the 10 seconds to decompress would be the goal.. :)19:33
rburtonkanavin: awesome. Last time I tried SQLite it blew up quite dramatically19:41
kanavinrburton, Fedora is aiming to switch for the upcoming release, they have it enabled in rawhide already19:42
JPEWzstd seems like a nice compromise between xz and lz4; Plus it seems like you can choose the time/space tradeoff over a pretty large range19:50
JPEWI saw [citation needed] that the fastest zstd was almost as fast as lz419:50
JPEWPlus, it has a parallel compressor (pzstd) :)19:51
rburtonkanavin: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=ross/rpm&id=806a50c8d345254f5b995c8a97f3d0c5eab7691f was the last bit of my last rpm branch that didn't get sent in20:06
rburtonmight be useful to merge into yours20:06
rburtonif people are doing images with rpm and want to upgrade between releases, they'll want bdb-ro i expect20:07
rburtonkanavin: and i expect you'll want the libsolv change to be a second packageconfig20:07
kanavinrburton, I quickly hacked 4.17-beta update together because I was eager to benchmark zstd, and proof of concept sqlite. 4.17 final wont be ready till autumn, so plenty of time to polish.20:10
kanavinrburton, besides, I'm handing over my daimler equipment on tuesday, and will be without build resources for a while :)20:11
rburtonwoop woop :)20:11
vmesonarmpit: I thought dhcp was dead but it seems to be still limping along: https://www.isc.org/dhcp/  --  unless someone can explain why it's a bad idea, I'll ask Mingli to add it back in meta-oe.20:30
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Ch^Wvmeson: +121:52
Ch^WWe had have a configuration controlled network configuration built on ISC's DHCP, so we had to repackage ISC DHCP for hardknott.21:52
vmesonCh^W: I wonder if khem would even pulll dhcp into meta-networking / hardknott. We'll see. If you want to send a patch, that'd be good but if not, I'll ask my co-worker to do it since I'm on vacation next week.21:55
* vmeson calls it a Canadian extra long weekend and walks away from the computer.21:56
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khemyeah I am not interested so much in broken pkgs22:11
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RPboo: yes, I think more people will be hitting these bugs, they're just hard to track down22:21
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* paulg thought he fixed all the death-of-freenode fallout. Apparently not. :-/22:22
RPrburton: I don't quite remember what they do/don't have. I suspect yp addresses from internally to the infra might be problematic so it may be worth trying a different address22:23
RPpaulg: I wondered :)22:25
paulgIt is like playing whack-a-mole with all the random turd computers scattered at different locations with stale configs...22:26
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abellonikhem: I believe the glibc2.34 upgrade di cause the following: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/107/builds/1790/steps/12/logs/stdio23:20
abelloni[   53.858968] systemd-journal[147]: segfault (11) at 4 nip fe8cbd0 lr fe8d950 code 1 in libc.so.6[fd60000+1e4000]23:20
abelloni[   53.859159] systemd-journal[147]: code: 38210020 4e800020 2c0b0000 7d274b78 40e2ff4c 3960003f 4bffff20 8123001823:21
abelloni[   53.859202] systemd-journal[147]: code: 61290008 91230018 4bffffd8 39200000 <91290004> 7fe00008 38000145 4400000223:21
abellonikhem: this is happening on all -alt builds23:27
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