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| banana_smoothie | Hello. Is there a way to symlink individual files in a batch? | 07:23 |
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| banana_smoothie | I have a lot of *.so files in a directory and want to symlink them in the same directory where they are. | 07:25 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:38 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | yo dudX | 07:41 |
| mckoan | hey JosefHolzmayrThe | 07:42 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | yo mckoan | 07:42 |
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| simon_ | Hi there, I'm a bit confused about the bitbake override syntax. All files I see use _append, but the latest manual uses :append. I found that the syntax was migrated via this thread https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/message/12508, but in which version (the git repo has 1.xx tags and the docs only show 2.x and 3.x versions which do not even exist in Git)? And is the old version still supported? | 07:50 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | simon_: the old syntax is supported up to hardknott. from honister onwards, its new syntax only. | 07:51 |
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| Granjow | JosefHolzmayrThe: Okay, thanks for the info! Shouldn't this be mentioned in the docs? :) | 07:54 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Granjow: well the docs are versioned, so if you look at the docs that match what you are using, then it should be fine. | 07:54 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Granjow: if you feel the docs after the change need an additional note, we're happy to take suggestions! | 07:55 |
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| Granjow | JosefHolzmayrThe: Aye. Will create a PR! | 07:58 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Granjow: nice! but - we're old school and rely on mails + patches :) | 07:58 |
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| Granjow | JosefHolzmayrThe: I'm old enough to still know how to do that too =D | 08:13 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Granjow: awesome! | 08:13 |
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| Granjow | Another question, on conditional syntax. If I understand correctly, in the example KBRANCH:qemuarm = "stuff" are the definitions of the different variants of the variable KBRANCH. When is that qemuarm variant chosen? When OVERRIDES contains os and the variable os is set to qemuarm? | 08:21 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Granjow: nope, thats a machine. | 08:42 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | https://youtu.be/YbLe84JCSFg | 08:43 |
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| deuteron | Howdy. Having a bit of trouble with yocto that I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with. | 08:55 |
| deuteron | I want to be able to build 3 SDKs that each have a different version of a particular package in them. | 08:55 |
| deuteron | PREFERRED_VERSION doesn't appear to work. As I understand it, that's a per-distro variable, so can't be used to affect individual images. | 08:56 |
| deuteron | I tried having different packages for each of the versions, e.g. package-name-v1.bb, package-name-v2.bb, etc. but that causes all sorts of problems with files being installed to the same place from different packages. | 08:57 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | deuteron: i'd say the easiest way around it is building three distros. they can all include a common baseline and only pull in the needed stuff. | 09:03 |
| mckoan | deuteron: DISTRO and PREFERRED_VERSION are the right way | 09:03 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | deuteron: quite hacky, but depending on your build pipeline, injection through local.conf *MIGHT* be an option, but thats really a case-by-case decision then. | 09:04 |
| deuteron | That means building everything else 3 times though, right? | 09:05 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | if they share SSTATE and you don't employ other dirty tricks -no. | 09:06 |
| deuteron | Hmm, alright. I'll give that a whirle. | 09:07 |
| deuteron | whirl* | 09:07 |
| deuteron | Thanks! | 09:07 |
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| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: mmmmm changing distro actually means rebuilding everything, including native packages IIRC? | 09:12 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | have fun! | 09:13 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: if the distro name stays the same and only one preferred version changes? especially on a hashequiv enabled setup, i don't think so. but i might of course be mistaken. | 09:14 |
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| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: sorry, missed the quite hacky message :| | 09:16 |
| qschulz | yes, indeed | 09:16 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | :) | 09:16 |
| qschulz | sooo, changing distro does, changing local.conf does not (except if changing DISTRO from there obviously :) ) | 09:16 |
| qschulz | in short | 09:16 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | its one of the "it depends" cases. if the use case is to have ci/cd crank out three artifacts, injecting through kas->local.conf for example is perfectly viable. if you are talking about a single shot production on your local machine or such, three DISTROs it is. | 09:17 |
| deuteron | The use case cd/cd. | 09:18 |
| deuteron | For me. | 09:18 |
| deuteron | I really don't want to build the common packages more than once. | 09:19 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | then i'd look at the mechanics suitable for your pipeline to reproducibly inject into local.con | 09:20 |
| qschulz | well, thanks to the sstate-cache and hashserv, you'd do three builds once only | 09:20 |
| qschulz | so the cost is basically in storage | 09:20 |
| Granjow | JosefHolzmayrThe: Thanks, that clarified some of the resolving. I still don't get how KBRANCH:qemuarm or (in the example) MORNING:omar would be chosen. Is this all based on the MACHINE and MACHINEOVERRIDES (which I cannot find in the docs :D) variables, so if MACHINE is set to "whatever:qemuarm:other", the qemuarm variant will be chosen? | 09:21 |
| qschulz | but I'd personally use the local.conf trick | 09:21 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: we need you here too ^^^^ | 09:21 |
| qschulz | Granjow: yes, except if there's an :other overrides somewhere | 09:21 |
| qschulz | Granjow: I'm not sure Bitbake cares about MACHINEOVERRIDES? If so, there might be some documentation to fix | 09:23 |
| qschulz | in any case, it's not really MACHINEOVERRIDES that is imporant to bitbake, it is OVERRIDES | 09:23 |
| qschulz | which is made of different OVERRIDES variables, among which MACHINEOVERRIDES | 09:23 |
| qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-ref-variables.html#term-OVERRIDES | 09:23 |
| qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-MACHINEOVERRIDES | 09:23 |
| qschulz | MACHINE is never set to whatever:qemuarm:other | 09:24 |
| qschulz | MACHINE here would be "other" | 09:24 |
| qschulz | and your MACHINEOVERRIDES would be: whatever:qemuarm:other | 09:24 |
| Granjow | qschulz: thanks a lot – clear now! | 09:25 |
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| qschulz | 👍 | 09:27 |
| deuteron | JosefHolzmayrThe: Just to confirm, I'd just be injecting a PREFERRED_VERSION in local.conf? | 09:32 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | deuteron: using the adequate syntax jst like in a distro conf, yes. | 09:34 |
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| deuteron | JosefHolzmayrThe: I've actually put a variable in our distro conf, and that allows me to set it from the environment. | 10:10 |
| deuteron | XXXXXX_VERSION ?= "5.02" | 10:10 |
| deuteron | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xxxxxx = "${XXXXXX_VERSION}" | 10:11 |
| deuteron | Err, I mean: PREFERRED_VERSION_xxxxxx = "${XXXXXX_VERSION}" | 10:11 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | deuteron: you'll need to whitelist it, but yeah - depending on the use case thats perfectly valid in my opinion | 10:12 |
| deuteron | Yeah, I have whitelisted it too. It's working. | 10:12 |
| deuteron | We have a distro conf specifically for these SDKs, so it makes more sense there I think, rather than in local.conf. | 10:13 |
| deuteron | Anyway, thanks for your help. | 10:13 |
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| deuteron | Hmm, one more question, if I may... | 11:11 |
| deuteron | Is there a way to have the mercurial changeset id appear in the package version without actually specifying that changeset? | 11:12 |
| deuteron | I just want to build from the tip of some branch, but have the actual changeset in the package version, so that we can know which changeset went into an SDK. | 11:13 |
| deuteron | AUTOREV doesn't seem to work, but perhaps I'm holding it wrong. | 11:13 |
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| Granjow | I have a recipe which just creates a single file: http://codepad.org/lCFBzREg (yes, I could rename the task to do_install() :)) When I run bitbake, it tells me that it could not invoke dnf because “No match for argument: example”. I added the recipe with IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " example" | 12:02 |
| Granjow | Anything wrong with that? The recipe file is called example_0.1.bb | 12:03 |
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| rburton | your do_install_testfile doesn't run | 12:07 |
| rburton | rename it do_install, don't add a task, and it will actually be executed | 12:08 |
| rburton | it doesn't run because bitbake run the 'build' task | 12:08 |
| rburton | your task isn't in the dependency chain for that | 12:08 |
| rburton | you task is after do_install, but a standalone task, it isn't in the chain to do_build | 12:09 |
| rburton | if you're installing, do it in do_install | 12:09 |
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| qschulz | deuteron: SRCPV? | 12:10 |
| qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-AUTOREV | 12:10 |
| qschulz | specifically https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#automatically-incrementing-a-package-version-number | 12:11 |
| Granjow | rburton: got it – thank you for the explanation! | 12:17 |
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| deuteron | qschulz: Yeah, doesn't seem to work. | 12:38 |
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| deuteron | I get an exception in DataSmart.expandWithRefs | 12:38 |
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| RP | deuteron: with git, SRCPV is how that is done. I suspect the mecurial fetcher isn't as well tested/robust for that usecase :( | 12:44 |
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| rburton | hm no cve report from sakoman for master? | 12:50 |
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| RP | rburton: I was going to ask him about that later! :) | 12:57 |
| rburton | not just me then | 12:57 |
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| deuteron | RP: AttributeError: 'FetchData' object has no attribute 'moddir' :/ | 13:00 |
| RP | deuteron: that sounds relatively fixable | 13:01 |
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| deuteron | This is some old version of yocto, by the way. | 13:01 |
| RP | deuteron: how old and do you have the traceback? | 13:02 |
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| deuteron | RP: http://okturing.com/src/12396/body | 13:05 |
| RP | deuteron: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/bitbake/lib/bb/fetch2/hg.py?id=d0ac956dc2454da252ab718267af0dcf504e6a13 maybe? | 13:07 |
| deuteron | Will give it a try. | 13:08 |
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| ad__ | hi, afayk, is there any irc dev channel for swupdate ?^ | 14:01 |
| qschulz | ad__: AFAIK,. it's only via googlegroups Mailing List | 14:02 |
| ad__ | qschulz, thanks | 14:02 |
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| jaskij[m] | I have both `SRC_URI` and `SRC_URI_machine_append` in a recipe, but for whatever reason this is clearing the base `SRC_URI` - is this correct? | 14:30 |
| jaskij[m] | (current Dunfell) | 14:30 |
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| qschulz | jaskij[m]: yes | 14:33 |
| qschulz | because you want SRC_URI_append_machine | 14:33 |
| qschulz | https://pretalx.com/media/yocto-project-summit-2021/submissions/WTT3UV/resources/Demystifying_the_OVERRIDES_mechan_no6J6fb.pdf | 14:33 |
| jaskij[m] | 🤦♂️ thanks | 14:34 |
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| manuel1985 | Is there a way to put a git repository on a yocto-created image? | 14:55 |
| manuel1985 | I'm not talking about the content of a specific commit, but the whole git repo, including the .git dir. | 14:55 |
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| qschulz | everything's possible | 14:56 |
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| qschulz | I assume you want to inherit bin_package if you just want the sources and not compile anything | 14:56 |
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| qschulz | but in any case, you can add whatever you want in a package | 15:06 |
| qschulz | in that case, it is likely you want only one package in your recipe, so override PACKAGE variable | 15:06 |
| qschulz | to only have one | 15:06 |
| qschulz | and set FILES_${PN} correctly, install the files where you want | 15:06 |
| RP | sakoman: any idea what happened to the master CVE report yesterday? Both rburton and I noticed! :) | 15:08 |
| sakoman | RP: I noticed too :-) For some reason current master resulted in a rebuild of the world, and webkitgtk failed | 15:09 |
| sakoman | I have another run in progress now | 15:09 |
| RP | sakoman: cool, thanks | 15:11 |
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| manuel1985 | qschulz: If I read correctly, bin_package assumes the files already got put to ${S} beforehand. What comes into my mind is to leverage the bitbake-own git client and use it to clone the repo into ${S}. Any better ideas? | 15:18 |
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| qschulz | manuel1985: the git fetcher will put the content of the git repo into "${WORKDIR}/git" so bin_package will be able to get the sources from there if S is set to that | 15:22 |
| qschulz | so you still need SRC_URI = "git://some.git;protocol=https" in the recipe obvisouly :) | 15:22 |
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| manuel1985 | qschulz: Still need to check, but I strongly doubt it will put the .git dir there as well | 15:25 |
| rburton | sakoman: does your script involve a build? you can do the cve_checks without building, it just needs fetch to work | 15:27 |
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| RP | rburton: I was wondering that | 15:28 |
| qschulz | manuel1985: you just need to run tar --no-same-owner --exclude='./patches' --exclude='./.pc' -cpf - . \ | 15:28 |
| qschulz | | tar --no-same-owner -xpf - -C ${D} | 15:29 |
| qschulz | in your git repo and check what's the toutput | 15:29 |
| qschulz | s/toutput/content of the directory at ${D} (replace ${D} obviously :)) | 15:29 |
| sakoman | rburton: it is a slightly modified version of the script you sent me :-) | 15:29 |
| sakoman | it is doing: bitbake world --runall cve_check | 15:30 |
| sakoman | never bothered to change that | 15:30 |
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| RP | sakoman: try --runonly | 15:36 |
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| RP | although I'm surprised runall would do that :/ | 15:36 |
| sakoman | RP: ok, will try that | 15:36 |
| RP | sakoman: "bitbake world -c cve_check" is probably enough | 15:37 |
| RP | although I guess that misses the natives | 15:37 |
| sakoman | probably want a -k in there too? | 15:37 |
| RP | sakoman: yes | 15:37 |
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| smurray | sakoman: in my scripting here that I rigged up to produce something like your reports, I use "bitbake -k -c cve_check universe" and it has been yielding the same final results | 15:47 |
| sakoman | RP: reviewing past cron logs I see that the other branches are only doing the fetch (as expected) and previous master runs also only did fetches | 15:49 |
| sakoman | So it seems something is different in master starting this week | 15:49 |
| sakoman | also, the --runonly is also building everything | 15:50 |
| RP | sakoman: I've broken runall haven't I? :( | 15:50 |
| sakoman | And perhaps runonly too :-( | 15:50 |
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| RP | sakoman: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=47e5c456a20432b511d830df9cbd4113a4352b2c probably | 15:50 |
| sakoman | Yeah, that looks like a good suspect | 15:51 |
| RP | no attempt to fix bugs shall go unpunished :/ | 15:51 |
| sakoman | At least it was caught quickly! | 15:52 |
| RP | sakoman: yes, that is good. I should have realised when you mentioned the option you were using | 15:52 |
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| rburton | RP: time for a test case :) | 15:56 |
| RP | rburton: just don't :/ | 15:56 |
| RP | I did think quick a bit about that when I wrote that change but didn't come up with anything good without a ton of test metadata | 15:58 |
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| RP | sakoman: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=84f9dcacaccf9870eb18916b8e4d4a493bb8e430 should fix it | 16:26 |
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| moto-timo | rburton: do we really need x11 still for gnome? | 16:30 |
| rburton | no | 16:30 |
| rburton | proper gnome should be on wayland | 16:31 |
| moto-timo | Seems like we have a lot of historical x11 cruft in meta-gnome then | 16:31 |
| rburton | its an option in gnome right now | 16:31 |
| moto-timo | Required distro feature all over the place. | 16:32 |
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| smurray | are there bits that are still x11 and need xwayland to run, I wonder? | 16:32 |
| rburton | a basic gnome is x11-free | 16:32 |
| rburton | you're making a big statement about what apps you'll run if you drop xwayland though | 16:32 |
| rburton | but it *should* work | 16:33 |
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| moto-timo | This is in the phosh context. My “gnome” image is failing to launch after login something about pukseaudio module-x11-publish | 16:34 |
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| rburton | moto-timo: fwiw, currently dragging our old python3-cryptography package kicking and screaming into linking correctly against openssl3 | 16:50 |
| rburton | because i really don't want to have to add an old openssl to meta-arm | 16:50 |
| moto-timo | rburton: good luck! I hope it works | 16:50 |
| rburton | it worked enough that tf-m built | 16:51 |
| moto-timo | Better than cursing at pyo3 :) | 16:51 |
| rburton | baby steps | 16:52 |
| rburton | that is next | 16:52 |
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| moto-timo | JPEW: phosh 0.14.0 and phoc 0.9.0 built. testing and then I'll push | 17:41 |
| JPEW | moto-timo: good timing! I just got the CI working well a few days ago | 17:43 |
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| moto-timo | JPEW: I suppose I should create a new branch since the phosh-0.13.1 name now would be confusing | 17:44 |
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| moto-timo | doh! I didn't build xwayland into the "gnome" image. I'll work an making x11 completely optional for gnome "later" | 18:05 |
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| jordemort | RP: is http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=47e5c456a20432b511d830df9cbd4113a4352b2c going to make its way over to honister or should i put a hack in my build system to patch bitbake? thanks for the fix by the way | 18:09 |
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| moto-timo | and the upgraded phosh/phoc boot, including the "gnome" image (with packagegroup-gnome-apps) | 18:24 |
| JPEW | moto-timo: Cool! Do you want to submit a PR? | 18:25 |
| moto-timo | JPEW: yes, I'll clean it up and submit | 18:25 |
| moto-timo | JPEW: I'm gonig to go ahead and include the 0.13.1 commit because it also works and shows some continuity. | 18:26 |
| JPEW | moto-timo: OK | 18:26 |
| moto-timo | And to make kanavin happy, I can finally do screen captures! | 18:26 |
| JPEW | Cool! | 18:26 |
| JPEW | Put them in the README maybe? | 18:26 |
| JPEW | Once you have that in, I'll update the testing so that it verifies that phosh/phoc is running on the target as part of the tests | 18:28 |
| moto-timo | sounds good | 18:28 |
| moto-timo | I still need to test qemu more, right now this is on rpi4 | 18:28 |
| JPEW | Yep. That's what I test on my cluster (qemu and RPi4) | 18:29 |
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| JPEW | I'd also like to publish the daily builds somewhere, just need to figure out the best hosting option | 18:30 |
| moto-timo | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8VqFLHmS/phosh-gnome-screenshot.png | 18:34 |
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| kanavin | moto-timo, cool, you should do a YP summit talk | 19:12 |
| moto-timo | good thing I already am ;) | 19:16 |
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| kanavin | moto-timo, can't see it here? https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2021-11/schedule/# | 20:41 |
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| rburton | zeddii: our xen builds are failing with run.do_write_xen_qemuboot_dtb.440363: lopper: not found. known issue? need to fix something our end? | 21:08 |
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| RP | jordemort: I just found a bug in it so we need to fix that (fix in master-next) and then see if there are any other issues. It should be backportable assuming we don't find other issues but somone will need to request/remind | 21:23 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: the schedule isn't finalized yet. I just got the email to confirm my talks this morning. | 21:25 |
| ndec | moto-timo: i think you might have missed the confirmation email a couple of weeks ago :) but good that you received the one today! | 21:26 |
| moto-timo | ndec: I meant the one from pretalx? Confirming the actual scheduling? But I might be confused! | 21:27 |
| ndec | yes, this one. I see that you've confirmed now. | 21:28 |
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| RP | zeddii: we got 5.15 in, thanks :) | 22:20 |
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| jordemort | RP: what's the preferred timeframe and method to request/remind? ping here after a couple weeks, or should i get on one of the mailing lists? | 22:39 |
| RP | jordemort: mailing list is ideal then there is a record of the request but remind me one way or another in a couple of weeks | 22:43 |
| RP | jordemort: I did at least just merge the fix so we'll see if any other issues arise | 22:43 |
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