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JosefHolzmayrTheyo dudX08:12
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qschulzo/09:09
manuel1985Can anyone give me some advice on how to diagnose this?09:12
manuel1985Error: Transaction check error:09:12
manuel1985file /etc conflicts between attempted installs of bly-dev-appconfig-1.0-r0.aarch64 and modemmanager-1.12.12-r0.aarch6409:12
manuel1985The thing is the only change I made is in some completely unrelated recipe.09:12
manuel1985That other recipe is downloading some tarball from AWS S3 and I all did was to change the URL.09:13
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qschulzmanuel1985: /etc being a file is weird, can you check that they are actually files (can have a look into the image directory of each recipe - which is ${D} BTW)09:16
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manuel1985qschulz: Thanks for your input. Will check. Will likely take me some time, because we have rm_work in place and the work directories are all gone.09:21
qschulzmanuel1985: or just unpack the rpms/ipks/debs from tmp/deploy/09:30
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manuel1985qschulz: Did so. /etc was a dir, not a file, and had perm=700. This is in line what someone on the internet experienced as well. Thing is, the recipes were not in any way special. They just had a normal 'install -d ${D}/etc/something' in 'do_install()'. For some reason 'install' defaulted to 700 for these recipes.10:13
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kanavinRP: testing branches from poky-contrib doesn't expose issues in oecore/nodistro build :(10:30
kanavinRP: but I sent a patch as I spotted that earlier ;)10:30
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RPkanavin: I saw as I caught up, I have it queued, thanks! :)10:36
RPkanavin: that also explains the testing issue. It all depends how you configure your build and if you setup an oe-core branch or not (my scripts do for -next)10:37
RPkanavin: I was a little bemused by the bounces from ross' intel address10:37
kanavinRP: I was also wondering why Eric/Emma Anholt is in there10:38
kanavinRP: I generally just push to poky-contrib, then start a build correcting poky URL only10:39
RPkanavin: git am pulled the addresses from the patch signed-off-by lines10:40
kanavinRP: that means people are spammed unnecessarily10:41
RPkanavin: right, poky-contrib will miss the oe-core test. Just something to be aware of I guess10:41
RPkanavin: yes, I think it depends which options you use with git am10:41
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RPSaur: thanks for the mirrors cleanup. I'm sure I intended to do that at some point! :)10:46
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qschulzhow come fedora35/debian11 aarch64-gcc gives me a 5KB smaller (on ~125KB) for the same sources than Yocto's?11:19
rburtondifferent compiler flags?11:20
rburtonwell, different compiler versions, different compiler flags passed, different default flags11:20
rburtonyou can easily drill into the ELF to determine what segments are different sized11:21
qschulz11.2.0 for yocto's 11.2.1 for Fedora's11:21
qschulzI see that there are also different build flags for aarch64-gcc itself11:22
qschulzI didn't expect such a big difference in size, and unfortunately for me, this was an issue for U-Boot SPL for the RK3399 :(11:22
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manuel1985Are there any unintended side effects of including defined ssh host keys in my image? Want to flash my device and not have to deal with "unknown ssh host key" errors. Yes I can set my client to ignore invalid host keys, but that seems even more unsafe.14:14
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RPmanuel1985: as long as it is just you using those images and they're not going to get pulled into anything else accidentally it is probably ok14:22
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JPEWmanuel1985: You usually don't want multiple devices to have the same host key14:26
manuel1985JPEW: I know, that's why I'm asking :)14:26
JPEWmanuel1985: Ah. I'm not a security person so I don't really know what bad things can happen if you do that14:27
JPEWmanuel1985: We've been looking at transitioning to certificates to reduce some of those problems.... I don't know exactly how it works, but I guess you can sign each unique host key with a cert, then allow that cert on the client side without having to do each individual device14:29
JPEWAssuming you can do the signing some how when you provision the device14:29
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manuel1985JPEW: Yeah I read about. Sounds supercool. I'm just afraid we won't be able to pull this off.14:31
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ernstpI was going to write a bug for something that affects module.bbclass (or maybe module-base.bbclass). But it turns out I can only reproduce it if I have a thing meta-freescale uses. But it would be hard to fix it from meta-freescale since you can't append bbclasses...14:52
ernstpif I can build a fix that's nice enough maybe it can be included in base poky anyway..14:53
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qschulzernstp: you can always have bbappens for the recipes that are inheriting the module class14:58
qschulzbut if it's something others could encounter and benefit from, please do contribute back :)14:59
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manuel1985How do you add files containing a whitespace to FILES_${PN}? Seems this variable is whitespace-delimited.15:02
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RPmanuel1985: with difficulty but it does take globbing so replacing the space with ? may work15:03
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manuel1985RP: I see, thanks.15:04
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qschulzalso spaces break externalsrc, just FYI.. which is a reminder I should have worked on a patch for a long time already :/15:21
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user123I have added meta-qt5 layer to my yecto build.I want to run an animation with gif file format(animation.gif). When I check On QT5 code src the recipe qt5base has src code for all imageformats(gif file plugin src code) but in qtbase_git.bb,PACKAGECONFIG_SYSTEM ?= "jpeg libpng zlib" there is no gif format defined.15:24
user123Please help me out how to provide support in build to have libgif.so?15:24
user123Also If gif format is not support in yecto then any alternate solutions to run animation?15:24
user123Target details:IMX6ull.15:24
user123Destro: core-minimal-image15:24
user123Thanks in advance.15:24
user123--15:24
user123Regards15:25
user123ST15:25
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qschulzuser123: you just need to add gif to the PACKAGECONFIG in a bbappend15:28
qschulzhttps://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/recipes-qt/qt5/qtbase_git.bb#L106 gif support can be enabled by adding "gif" to the correct PACKAGECONFIG15:28
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aleblanchey !hello ! Am I missing something ? using "runqemu qemuarmv5 core-image-base ext4 nographic serial" I can see the kernel booting, but no login prompt. I'm using the poky distro on dunfell16:18
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zeddiialeblanc, that should be it, but unless you really need armv5, that's the least loved of the arm targets, we moved the defualt qemuarm away from it a while ago now16:41
zeddiijonmason may know more as well ^^^^^^^^16:41
aleblanczeddii, hum ok, will try first to swithc to qemuarm, will see then , tks16:42
jonmasonqemuarm5 is tested every night in our CI16:42
jonmasonlet me sanity check, one min16:42
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qschulzmmmm maintainer question... my board Ethernet is not working from v5.14 to v5.14.11 (included). Honister was released with <=v5.14.11 but now does have >5.14.11... How do I handle this in my meta-layer so that Ethernet is working?17:03
qschulzI guess I could conditionnally patch depending on LINUX_VERSION?17:06
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zeddiiqschulz, or just wait out a point release of honister ? :)17:11
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qschulzzeddii: ugh, sooo loooooong to wait!17:13
qschulz:)17:13
zeddiioption b) use pre-released SRCREVs ?17:15
* zeddii is just full of not-ideal suggestions today17:15
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qschulzzeddii: I could but that would mean I'd get stuck to whatever I set it to, without benefiting from later SRCREV bumps automatically17:17
qschulzmmmmmm, wondering what SRCREV_machine := "${@d.getVar("SRCREV") if d.getVar("LINUX_VERSION") >= 5.14.12 else "harcoded-rev-for-5.14.12"}"17:19
qschulzwould do17:19
qschulz(obviously something smarter for the version comparison since it's a string)17:19
qschulzquestion is if tlwoerner would accept that :p17:19
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RPqschulz: there is a version comparision function in bitbake, probably bb.utils17:28
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jaskij[m]I want to take a stab at making a reverse dependency graph from task-depends.dot. I'm guessing that the preferred language for tooling is Python?18:03
kanavinwrote a mini rant for GNU on linkedin18:05
kanavin"Dear GNU Project, I fully share your vision of computing, but your release practices can be maddening. A few months ago there was a new point release of automake (1.16.4), a core GNU project (we leave the discussion of benefits of transition to meson for another post). It broke gettext and libunistring - both core GNU projects as well. There are still no releases to address this. How is downstream supposed to use your software?18:05
kanavinHow come you don't test your build system releases with actual GNU components that are built with them?"18:05
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user123qschulz: thanks, I configured it as19:04
user123PACKAGECONFIG[gif] = "-gif,-no-gif,gif". Hoping now my build will have libgif.so in it.19:04
jonmasonaleblanc: `MACHINE=qemuarmv5 runqemu slirp serialstdio` ran fine for me19:05
aleblancjonmason, and you can get a prompt ?19:05
jonmasonyes19:05
jonmasonPoky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 3.4+snapshot-711d173d6e0559cb988596095ab45d22a9257dec qemuarmv5 /dev/ttyAMA019:06
jonmasonqemuarmv5 login:19:06
aleblancok, going back to double check everything then :(19:06
khemkanavin:  đź™‚ but GNU is an umbrella, projects under it are not managed by project managers like some of other projects, so its not fair to expect that every project under that umbrella keep functioning when it s autoreconf'ed, autoconf's interface to its users is configure files and they should work fine19:07
jonmasonaleblanc: I modified your commandline to match my env, and it ran fine.  I ran `runqemu qemuarmv5 core-image-base ext4 nographic serialstdio slirp`19:08
khemautoreconf is a developer activity, which happens asynchronously, some of complex projects like gcc and binutils .e.g. are still using older versions of autoconf tools and thats ok19:08
kanavinkhem, yes, but we do it from scratch, for better or worse19:08
khemthats not normal though19:09
kanavinkhem, and I do think automake should at least build other things and file tickets, if not fixes19:09
kanavinthey changed something, and that broke things19:10
aleblancjonmason, tks for checking19:10
jonmasonaleblanc: re-read the original comment.  I'm not on dunfell.  :)  Let me try again19:12
kanavinkhem, and even GNU users may want to build from git rather than from tarballs for various reasons19:12
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jonmasonaleblanc: Poky (Yocto Project Reference Distro) 3.1.11 qemuarmv5 /dev/ttyAMA019:41
jonmasonit works there too19:41
jonmasonaleblanc: change your serial to serialstdio, and i think you'll find it works19:43
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aleblancjonmason, rebuilding from scratch , will try19:46
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RPkanavin: you could mention they could use YP for testing :)20:20
RPjaskij[m]: yes, python is preferred20:20
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kanavinRP: if you go to automake homepage, the very first thing you see there is ' New volunteers to help maintain Automake are needed. Please help if you can. '20:42
kanavinwhich links to https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2021-03/msg00018.html20:42
kanavinnot surprising at all20:42
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kanavinI feel a lot of GNU is maintained roughly like this https://xkcd.com/2347/20:43
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frayintained roughly like this20:59
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fraythanks window manager.. for pasting randomly20:59
RPkanavin: yes, looks about right :/20:59
frayand yes, pretty much20:59
RPkanavin: I did try with the new libtool maintainer20:59
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zeddiiintained!!22:47
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jaskij[m]<RP> "jaskij: yes, python is preferred" <- Python it is. I'll still probably end up depending on Graphviz for parsing, but I feel that's a fair requirement.23:05
jaskij[m]I asked because so far Python has been a secondary language for me and packaging Python programs is an alien concept for me.23:06
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RPjaskij[m]: the bulk of our scripts are shell or python and as a result those are what most of us parse easily, for better or worse :)23:08
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jaskij[m]Fair enough, I do have a friend doing Python dev who's offered code review23:15
jaskij[m]And this will probably be quite short23:15
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moto_timo[m]intained indeed.23:58

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