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| vd | Can you append a recipe task from a distro conf? | 00:16 |
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| vd | like do_something:pn-some-recipe:append () { } in a distro conf? | 00:17 |
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| JPEW | vd: no. No "code" is allowed in a conf file | 00:51 |
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| sveinse | Under honister custom conversion types can be specified with CONVERSION_CMD:something. However, CONVERSION_DEPENDS_something = is still required. It is not using the new semicolon syntax. Bug or as indended? Not throwing stones, but I'd argue inconsistent at least. :D | 01:14 |
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| sveinse | Unless I'm mistaking https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-security/tree/classes/dm-verity-img.bbclass#n70 would be incorrect | 01:18 |
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| gainde | hello . Any body had the same issue ? https://pastebin.com/UDpZ2e6w | 04:39 |
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| paulg | something in my basic command line only build triggered a "need" for rust-llvm-native..... which was unexpected. And has brought eeverything else in the build to a stand-still. | 05:40 |
| * paulg scowls at vmeson | 05:40 | |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | yo dudX | 06:37 |
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| RP | rburton: that patch in bitbake master-next seems to cause breakage :/ | 06:56 |
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| khem | RP: I was looking into using devupstream class for glibc but it seems to be not easy due to all stashing going on for associated recipes like glibc-locale etc | 07:37 |
| khem | they dont have SRC_URI and thats the issue where it starts I fixed it in devupstream class but then SRCPV can not be calculated ☹️ since it needs a git repo I guess | 07:38 |
| khem | so I guess recipes without proper SRC_URI are not going to work as it is | 07:39 |
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| justas1 | hello, does anyone else have any problems with git fetcher with honister release? | 07:42 |
| justas1 | the error is "do_fetch: Fetcher failure: Fetch command ... --progress failed with exit code 128, no output" | 07:43 |
| justas1 | In the log file I see "Resolving sources.openembedded.org (sources.openembedded.org)... 198.145.29.27 | 07:43 |
| justas1 | Connecting to sources.openembedded.org (sources.openembedded.org)|198.145.29.27|:80... connected. | 07:43 |
| justas1 | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found | 07:43 |
| justas1 | 2021-11-17 07:38:43 ERROR 404: Not Found." | 07:43 |
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| justas1 | Also in the release migration guide I see "Certificates are now properly checked when bitbake fetches sources over HTTPS. If you receive errors as a result for your custom recipes, you will need to use a mirror or address the issue with the operators of the server in question." However, in my recipe the protocol is ssh... | 07:51 |
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| Guest7755 | hi there | 08:47 |
| Guest7755 | I have question about yocto but i'm not sure here is the right place.. | 08:48 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7755: just give it try. ;-) | 08:52 |
| Guest7755 | Make shows warning below when I run the testsuite. How to set the datetime automatically without accessing network. | 08:58 |
| Guest7755 | `make: Warning: File 'Makefile' has modification time 84879 s in the future` | 08:58 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | how do you construct the testcase? what is the context of running it? | 09:00 |
| mckoan | Guest7755: why you consider this a Yocto question ? | 09:00 |
| Guest7755 | testcase is in ptest image generated by `bitbake core-image-ptest-all`. | 09:03 |
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| Guest7755 | mckoan, sorry, that's why I'm not sure, where should I go for asking beginner questions? | 09:05 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7755: which release is this on? I'd guess this comes from the image itself being built with reproducibility enabled, hence the defined timestamps, and the testcase leaking in the current time. | 09:06 |
| Guest7755 | honister | 09:06 |
| mckoan | Guest7755: no worries, describe the context in mode detail | 09:06 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7755: i think thats a legit problem. actually, the perect way would be if you can provide a minimal reproducing example for testsuite and recipe | 09:07 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | *perfect, even | 09:08 |
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| Guest7755 | context? You mean the machine i use? | 09:09 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7755: assuming this comes from a recipe/package that you created/maintain | 09:09 |
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| qschulz | halstead: good morning (well, in a few hours :) ), some people told us earlier that sources.openembedded.org mirrors are down. I too cannot connect to it. Is this domain name under your responsibility or is there someone else we need to contact to make them aware of this issue? | 09:12 |
| Guest7766 | JosefHolzmayrThe It's a qemu riscv64 machine built by meta-riscv | 09:13 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7766: no custom layer on top? just poky+meta-riscv, setting the machine and then building the image? | 09:15 |
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| qschulz | halstead: seems like wget can connect to :80 but the index.html file is sent after ~43s | 09:16 |
| Guest7766 | yes | 09:16 |
| halstead | qschulz: that domain is pointed at a server I control. I probably will need to look into it tomorrow | 09:20 |
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| qschulz | halstead: hopefully it's not gone by tomorrow :p g'night! | 09:33 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest7766: ok, ii'll try to reproduce it but it will take some time. | 09:36 |
| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: aren't you the guy with an overkill ThreadRipper setup :p ? | 09:38 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: overkill epyc, please. | 09:40 |
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| jaskij[m] | Is there a way to generate multi-target SDKs? | 10:43 |
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| jsandman | Hi, does anybody know whether there is a way I can keep two meta-<bsp> layers in my Yocto project? Could I have the same bblayers.conf for the entire project and select the meta-<bsp> depending on what MACHINE I select? | 11:14 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | jsandman: you're close! a well-behaved meta-bsp should only affect the build if the MACHINE it targets is selected. this means that if the bsps are compliant, you can have an arbitrary number of those in your build/bblayers.conf | 11:29 |
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| jsandman | I think I have something wrong in my layer.conf for these bsps layers then. I'll review them given this should work having both layers in defined in teh bblayers.conf | 11:47 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | jsandman: maye look at meta-ti and meta-intel. they should adhere to best practises there. | 12:32 |
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| jaskij[m] | what happens if I have multiple `git://` entries in `SRC_URI`? | 13:29 |
| jaskij[m] | outside of needing to specify multiple `SRCREV:name`, that is | 13:31 |
| qschulz | jaskij[m]: if you know about "name" already you probably have a more precise question in mind? | 13:34 |
| jaskij[m] | Name came from looking at BB docs. Mostly I'm interested in how the two will interact, will they be just mashed into one directory or be put in different subdirs based on `name`? | 13:35 |
| qschulz | jaskij[m]: I don't know and it seems to be missing info in the docs so whatever the answer is, wtch the docs :) | 13:37 |
| qschulz | we need to patch* | 13:37 |
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| jaskij[m] | I already have enough of a Yocto backlog for the next few weekends (that dep script, extra CMake toolchain files, CMake section in using SDK docs) | 13:38 |
| michalkotyla | Hi, maybe someone have more informations about vfat feature - https://docs.yoctoproject.org/next/ref-manual/features.html?highlight=vfat . What else I need to do to use it, except adding "vfat" in "MACHINE_FEATURES" ? After upgrading from thud to honister i have issue with "vfat": https://pastebin.com/raw/Kpyw3Cba .From where can I get vfat.scc file? | 13:38 |
| Guest81 | how is yocto stripping binaries? cmake.bbclass does install (not install/strip), so I guess stripping happens somewhere else? | 13:39 |
| jaskij[m] | iirc stripping happens in `do_package`, but do verify | 13:39 |
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| qschulz | same recollection here, it definitely happens somewhere there. Look where INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP_FILES is used | 13:40 |
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| qschulz | michalkotyla: I assume you're not using the honister branch for poky/oe-core because linuxyocto is not at 5.14.77 in honister yet | 13:42 |
| michalkotyla | qschulz: i try to build image with custom kernel source | 13:43 |
| qschulz | michalkotyla: nvm can't read, let me look a bit more | 13:43 |
| qschulz | michalkotyla: and how did you create the recipe for this custom kernel source? | 13:44 |
| qschulz | michalkotyla: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-kernel-cache/tree/cfg/fs/vfat.scc is where it's at | 13:47 |
| michalkotyla | qschulz: my recipe only fetch sources from git with patches | 13:47 |
| qschulz | I guess that you did a bbappend on linux-yocto and then replaced the whole SRC_URI, removing the git://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-kernel-cache;type=kmeta;name=meta;branch=yocto-5.10;destsuffix=${KMETA} line from it | 13:48 |
| qschulz | it is not mandatory to inherit kernel-yocto nor require linux-yocto.inc FYI, you can have a kernel recipe only by inheriting the kernel bbclass | 13:49 |
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| michalkotyla | qschulz: oh, thanks - that may be that. I do not have that line in SRC_URI - i will try that | 13:50 |
| jsandman | Thanks JosefHolzmayrThe! I'll take a look at those metas for reference | 13:52 |
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| jaskij[m] | michalkotyla: if the SoC you're using has a vendor BSP layer (TI and NXP for sure, maybe others), do take a look at the kernel recipes in their layers. | 13:56 |
| jaskij[m] | I'm using NXP, so I'm not using linux-yocto, but rather linux-fslc-imx | 13:56 |
| jaskij[m] | (now that I check, linux-fslc-imx does inherit kernel-yocto) | 13:57 |
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| michalkotyla | jaskij[m]: thaks, i will look at that, but now i need to fix this in existing envrioment | 14:15 |
| jaskij[m] | you are doing a clean build, right? | 14:15 |
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| michalkotyla | no, i have a lot of custom layer which work on "thud" version | 14:38 |
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| michalkotyla | Is a chance to fetch data from two git repositories in one recipe? Solutions with saving name as a parameter to URL like here https://www.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2015-June/106157.html or https://yocto.yoctoproject.narkive.com/aPn3Ds9u/clone-multiple-git-source-repository-from-single-recipe-filedo not work now, even if i use new syntax ("_" replaced by ":") | 14:44 |
| rburton | sure, just list both git: urls | 14:45 |
| rburton | the catch is that they'll both checkout to git/ unless you tell it otherwise | 14:45 |
| rburton | destsuffix= is how to control that | 14:45 |
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| qschulz | jaskij[m]: ^ there you have your answer :) | 14:46 |
| jaskij[m] | thanks rburton | 14:46 |
| rburton | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.html#git-fetcher-git | 14:47 |
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| qschulz | rburton: I think it'd make sense to add this to SRC_URI "name" example in the variables glossary | 14:48 |
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| qschulz | I see there's a subdir option for the unpack "task" but also "destsuffix" for the git repo, does anyone know from memory if they are different in behavior or are duplicates? | 14:51 |
| qschulz | s/git repo/git fetcher/ | 14:51 |
| paulg | Well, this is clearly unacceptable. You can't build frigging vim w/o the dependency chain spidering out to suck in all of rust?!? Which then builds for ARM on an x86-64 target build. Which then segfaults after an hour. | 14:53 |
| paulg | Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['cube-builder', 'packagegroup-builder', 'vim', 'gtk+3', 'adwaita-icon-theme-symbolic', 'librsvg-native', 'rust-native', 'rust-llvm-native'] | 14:53 |
| paulg | That is just so wrong, I'm left speechless. | 14:54 |
| rburton | yeah hooray librsvg being ported to rust | 14:54 |
| rburton | we held out on that for quite some time | 14:54 |
| rburton | turn off gtk in vim? | 14:54 |
| paulg | yeah, that was my first thought, after picking myself off the floor after passing out in astonishment. | 14:55 |
| rburton | i'm mostly annoyed that rust feels the need to have a fork of llvm | 14:55 |
| paulg | I don't want any rust or llvm anywhere near my build. | 14:55 |
| qschulz | paulg: https://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-support/vim/vim.inc?h=master#n70 that's what brings it in | 14:55 |
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| rburton | paulg: if you even look at gtk then you can't avoid it without effort | 14:56 |
| rburton | (icons are svg source, so librsvg used to render, which is rust) | 14:56 |
| paulg | there must be a version of librsvg that is pre-rust. Guess I'll just pin to that? | 14:57 |
| rburton | its about 3 years old now | 14:58 |
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| qschulz | paulg: you'll have to embrace rust at one point anyway, just bite the bullet now :p | 14:59 |
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| paulg | yay borg. resistance is futile; you will be assimilated. | 15:00 |
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| JPEW | rburton: Given you're employeer, I'm not sure you can complain about forks of llvm :) | 15:09 |
| rburton | ha burn! | 15:10 |
| rburton | i discovered a new fork of clang last month | 15:10 |
| JPEW | rburton: We use `armclang` for our bare-metal builds.... it's.... fun? | 15:11 |
| rburton | i'm still angry there's no arm64 binary of it | 15:11 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | ärmcläng! | 15:11 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | you have to use more döts! | 15:11 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | JPEW: armcc is "fun". armclang actually gets stuff done. | 15:12 |
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| JPEW | JosefHolzmayrThe: This is true... I still remember debugging a RVCT 3.1 (or 4.1... I forget), where the compiler decided that inline functions were not synchonization points, so it was perfectly happy to move the code that toggled a GPIO _outside_ the block that disabled interrupts to make it atomic.... that was _fun_ | 15:13 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | +1 | 15:14 |
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| kanavin | I don't want C in my builds if you ask me, 70s relic that needs to die. | 15:28 |
| kanavin | and c++ can jump off a cliff right now | 15:28 |
| kanavin | the automotive industry doesn't know yet how deeply it's screwed over having standardized on the latter | 15:30 |
| neverpanic | kanavin: WORD | 15:32 |
| neverpanic | oops, had capslock on. probably still appropriate, thuogh :D | 15:32 |
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| kanavin | carpet bombing the oe-core list since 2015 | 15:36 |
| jaskij[m] | kanavin: I *like* C++, but it's too complicated a language for mostly anything. | 15:40 |
| jaskij[m] | as much as it pains, personally I'll probably move forward with Rust | 15:42 |
| jaskij[m] | Meanwhile, I'm looking at sdbus-c++ and welp... they build-time download google test, and Google removed the `master` branch from their repo. | 15:44 |
| paulg | would be nice if rust would actually build. And not build ARM stuff for an x86 target build... https://paste.debian.net/1219844/ | 15:44 |
| fray | For the test harness, is there some sort of 'autologin' procedure (where the boot goes to a prompt), or does it has some login process it does before each test case? | 15:44 |
| rburton | paulg: the arm/x86 thing is odd as the AB tests that case | 15:47 |
| jaskij[m] | paulg: I'm not sure if this changed after pulling Rust into core, but at least the meta-rust README for Hardknott has the following note: | 15:48 |
| jaskij[m] | > TARGET_SYS must be different from BUILD_SYS. This is due to the way Rust configuration options are tracked for different targets. This is the reason we use the Yocto triples instead of the native Rust triples. See rust-lang/cargo#3349. | 15:48 |
| jaskij[m] | https://github.com/meta-rust/meta-rust/tree/hardknott#pitfalls | 15:48 |
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| rburton | paulg: thats a segfault in the compiler, not sure that's actually a rust problem | 15:48 |
| paulg | jaskij[m], okay, well I *guess* that explains the ARM part. Still sure looks odd when one sees it. | 15:49 |
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| jaskij[m] | Although a fix to the linked issue has supposedly been merged in upstream, so maybe it works in current versions of cargo? | 15:50 |
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| paulg | rburton, yeah - I'm moving to another machine just to rule out flakey hardware - but it consistently fails right at that point - not at random - which is what one would expect for sketchy RAM/machine. | 15:50 |
| rburton | the AB literally builds x86-for-x86 so i'm not convinced that SYS thing is a problem still | 15:50 |
| rburton | paulg: yeah, llvm builds are not exactly trivial | 15:51 |
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| paulg | it is like 1993 all over again! https://tldp.org/FAQ/sig11/html/index.html | 15:54 |
| paulg | I haven't built this rootfs for probably 6mo or more, and never on this particular machine before, so anything is possible. | 15:56 |
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| RP | paulg: FWIW I think llvm builds one compiler for all targets which is why there is ARM stuff there | 16:00 |
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| paulg | rust llvm sure is a good way to unconditionally blow out build times to "unacceptable" on previously marginally acceptable older machines.... | 16:03 |
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| RP | paulg: it is pretty bad :( | 16:04 |
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| paulg | RP, yeah - as someone who likes to tinker at the trailing edge and rescue e-waste for a couple more years of use, it makes me sad. | 16:10 |
| RP | paulg: well, I was dragged into accepting rust into core and am trying not to say anything that will upset people ;-) | 16:12 |
| paulg | Fortunately I don't have that problem - the latter 1/2 of your sentence. B-) | 16:13 |
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| jaskij[m] | OE-Core in bugzilla is meta-openembedded, right? | 16:19 |
| rburton | no, it's openembedded-core | 16:19 |
| rburton | meta-oe doesn't use bugzilla | 16:20 |
| jaskij[m] | also, why the heck would people download deps in CMake... | 16:20 |
| rburton | because people who use cmake are TWISTED | 16:20 |
| jaskij[m] | eh, I like CMake | 16:20 |
| jaskij[m] | but I also like C++ | 16:20 |
| rburton | i'll repeat, TWISTED | 16:20 |
| * jaskij[m] is currently working on fixing sdbus-c++ | 16:20 | |
| jaskij[m] | (I misfiled a bug) | 16:21 |
| * paulbarker just tabbed over here whilst fighting cmake | 16:21 | |
| jaskij[m] | I *think* I have a fix for that too. Seems like current master checks for googletest's presence before downloading from upstream | 16:23 |
| jaskij[m] | rburton: Modern CMake is actually decently sane. But a lot of documentation and tutorials out there still go back to bad old days of pre-3.0. and because CMake still mostly supports those bad old practices... | 16:25 |
| paulbarker | jaskij[m]: You're spot on with my experience. Outdated tutorials, bad answers on stackoverflow, etc that all seem to work at first but then tie you in knots | 16:26 |
| paulbarker | Then you find someone saying "oh, we all know those ways are wrong and stupid. Use these new ways...." | 16:27 |
| jaskij[m] | I'm actually ill, was supposed to come in today, quickly test some hardware and go home to run away from AC. This sdbus thing completely run Ned my day. | 16:28 |
| jaskij[m] | *ruined | 16:29 |
| jaskij[m] | paulbarker: most C++ IDEs pushing people into CMake doesn't help things | 16:29 |
| paulbarker | jaskij[m]: I'm working with code that already uses cmake so the choice has already been made | 16:30 |
| paulbarker | At least it's not maven | 16:31 |
| jaskij[m] | I meant that more as a general thing. Oh, you want a C++ IDE? Use CMake, otherwise your choices are Eclipse and MS Visual Studio | 16:32 |
| jaskij[m] | paulbarker: I luckily never worked with Java. Sidenote: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-Java-Rough-Shape | 16:35 |
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| kanavin | phoronix should look at meta-java if they want 'rough' | 16:43 |
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| jaskij[m] | khem: I've got a patch for sdbus-c++ failing because of googletest download, but can't submit it right now as I'm at work. Will submit later. | 16:53 |
| jaskij[m] | *later today | 16:54 |
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| justas1 | Hello, how should I debug git fetcher issues? Particularly "do_fetch: Fetcher failure ... failed with exit code 128, no output" | 17:30 |
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| paulg | it should point you at the fetch log for more details - something like tmp/work/<procfam-distro>/<pkgname>/<version>/temp/log.do_fetch | 17:51 |
| paulg | if it is a git repo, you can try running the command manually ; if it is a tarball fetch, you can try running the "wget" comand in the fetch log manually. | 17:52 |
| paulg | if you are behind a company firewall - make sure you are able to run those protocols over their normally assigned ports. | 17:53 |
| kanavin | paulg, too late :) | 17:55 |
| paulg | ah - I've masked join/leave msgs. Clearly wasn't to keen for help if they fled in less than 20m. | 17:56 |
| kanavin | maybe they misunderstand how irc works | 17:57 |
| kanavin | it's not a forum posting :) | 17:58 |
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| paulg | so, the vim ---> gtk ---> rust thing: Looking at "vim --version" on ubuntu and fedora, it looks lika there is no gtk, and even all the x11 options are prefixed with a minus sign. | 19:07 |
| paulg | which begs the question - if desktop distros aren't turning that on, then why, with a predominately embedded audience, are we turning all that boat load of crazy on? | 19:08 |
| paulg | Figured I'd try and save everybody the pain before I take my marbles and hide in the corner with my own bbappend that stops the crazy. | 19:08 |
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| paulg | of course if you build gtk for some other reason, you'll still get a bucket of rust flakes. | 19:10 |
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| neverpanic | paulg: distros usually provide multiple versions of vim under different names, vim-tiny, vim-nox, vim-... | 19:13 |
| neverpanic | but I agree | 19:13 |
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| paulg | now that you mention it, I do recall the variants, but I don't think I have *ever* even once ran anything but whatever the alternatives symlink points at.... Then again I've also been accused of being a dinosaur. | 19:16 |
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| paulg | pretty sure I've cursed a blue streak at busybox vi and similar at least 100 times though... | 19:17 |
| jaskij[m] | paulg: looking at Hardknott recipe, it enables the GTK version if x11 is in `DISTRO_FEATURES` | 19:17 |
| jaskij[m] | `${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'x11', 'x11 gtkgui', '', d)}` | 19:19 |
| paulg | jaskij[m], right - but I guess I'm looking for a compelling reason as to *why* ; given the impact it triggers, and given that even desktop distros don't for their default vim binary. | 19:19 |
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| jaskij[m] | the assumption here probably was that if you're running X11, you'll be pulling in GTK regardless | 19:19 |
| paulg | perhaps, but if you are building a bank machine, or some kind of other appliance, it is a safe bet that vim isn't going to be a part of the UI you expose to the world. | 19:20 |
| jaskij[m] | fair enough | 19:20 |
| jaskij[m] | but if you're already using GTK, the build shouldn't change much if Vim also uses it | 19:21 |
| jaskij[m] | so rather, it's the false assumption that X11 -> having GTK | 19:21 |
| jaskij[m] | not sure if I expressed myself clearly | 19:22 |
| paulg | yeah - I think so -- I've not explored further as to whether this rootfs pkglist depends on gtk via some other path. Maybe I'll get to that this evening. | 19:22 |
| jaskij[m] | https://gitlab.com/jaskij/oe-dependency-tool | 19:23 |
| jaskij[m] | shameless self plug, but might be helpful for you | 19:23 |
| paulg | thanks - I'll have a look at it later on as well. | 19:24 |
| jaskij[m] | meanwhile, I just pulled Poky Dunfell and all of a sudden I'm seeing a ton of fetcher unpack failures | 19:24 |
| jaskij[m] | debianutils-native-4.9.1-r0 do_unpack: Bitbake Fetcher Error: UnpackError('Unpack command PATH="elided" xz -dc /home/jaskij/wheelchair/build/downloads/debianutils_4.9.1.tar.xz | tar x --no-same-owner -f - failed with return value 2', 'http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20191212T145612Z/pool/main/d/debianutils/debianutils_4.9.1.tar.xz') | 19:26 |
| smurray | paulg: seems like commit 7b48bd2 in meta-oe added that to make Gvim work in sato, I could see dropping it if that's not an issue (or no one cares) | 19:29 |
| paulg | smurray, thanks for the pointer - I'll add it to my "to look at" list for later. | 19:30 |
| paulg | need to go vandalize some kernel related stuff now. | 19:31 |
| smurray | heh | 19:31 |
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| kanavin | paulg, so why not drop x11 from your DISTRO_FEATURES? do you need it for something? | 19:52 |
| paulg | kanavin, https://github.com/OverC/meta-overc -- has cube-builder, and cube-graphical-builder (think yocto build appliance kind of) - so there are both x11 and non-x11 variants. | 19:55 |
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