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mckoangood morning07:51
JosefHolzmayrTheyo dudX07:54
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Guest181Hi, everyone, I am a new guy, and need a help now. Using bitbake poky, I have got .ipk in tmp/deploy/ipk/armv7vet2hf-neon/ , but these ipks in tmp/deploy/ipk/armv7vet2hf-neon/ don't work on my arm board. How can I get arm ipks?08:44
JosefHolzmayrTheGuest181: so what is running on the board?08:48
JosefHolzmayrTheGuest181: the generated ipks only work when used on the corresponding image, or even better, if you just rebuild the image including the things you need.08:48
Guest181"arm" "all" , and uname -m on my board is "armv7l"08:49
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JosefHolzmayrTheGuest181: no thats not what i mean. where did you get the software from that is currently running on the board?08:49
JosefHolzmayrTheyour poky build has to match it08:50
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Guest181I just want some ipks, and all the arm ipks can work on the board well08:51
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Guest181so I dont want to rebuild the image of the board08:52
JosefHolzmayrThewell maybe you don't want to. but you have to be able to, in order to create matching ipks.08:52
RPGuest181: you'd need to configure poky to build ipks that are compatible so you need to know what the board is running08:52
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Guest181Just need some new software to work on the board08:52
JosefHolzmayrThethen set up a build that matches what is running on your board.08:52
RPGuest181: there is a bit more to configuration than just the package architecture of the ipks unfortunately08:54
JosefHolzmayrThei would rather say "fortunately", because that is what actually gives us the configurability superpowers.08:54
Guest181Actually, any arm ipks will be ok on the board, because it not bsp software, it just some python lib like numpy08:56
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qschulztlwoerner: eh it's ok, I've a "downstream" layer for our board which we'll need to keep anyway :) https://git.theobroma-systems.com/yocto-layers/meta-theobroma-systems-bsp.git/ I'll probably push a bit more once I can send you a machine conf without too many changes (basically, TPL support in upstream U-Boot)08:57
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qschulzRP: good luck with the house, hope it didn't get worse over the week-end08:58
Guest181after "bitbake python3-numpy", the ipks are in tmp/deploy/ipk/armv7vet2hf-neon/ and armv7vet2hf-neon not match armv7l08:58
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michalkotylaHi, sorry for writing this question again - I have no idea what can I do with this issue: I have a problem with accessing DHCP after upgrading layers from thud to honister. About this commit: https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/commit/17bc2a137f1c249a167a478f596d61b5489e7fa4#diff-7b7d2f2ef23c914d5cc351126302a6929d5734252f18d3d90fdf9b8e5ec962c6 - which way to get IP from DHCP do you recommend or use in your systems? I09:02
michalkotylahave set DHCP client in NetworkManager as "internal" and now it is not working for me - I get address from range 169.254...09:02
RPqschulz: I'll survive thanks. I spent a while up ladders trying to seal things up so we'll see. Going to be a pain trying to get a roofer now :/09:31
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thekappehello guys ! I'm trying to use a yocto SDK within eclipse09:43
qschulzRP: ain't nothing that can't be fixed with duct tape :D09:43
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thekappein orde to let eclipse discover "sem_t" I had to add "__LP64__" and "__arrch64__" symbols09:44
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RPqschulz: industrial staple gun and damp proof course membrane in this case, but yes09:44
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thekappeI'm pretty confident in __aarch64__ as I am building a 64bit distro, but I'm not so sure about __LP64__09:45
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thekappeHow do I know which are the default symbols used by bitbake while building the distro ?09:46
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ykronsHello all10:45
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ykronsI have included nodejs 14.17.1 recipe from "honister" into a "thud" yocto version and after few small changes, it went pretty well. I have then updated the recipe to point on 14.18.1 (with intermediate jumps to 14.17.4 and 14.17.6). Up to now, everything is fine.10:52
JosefHolzmayrTheykrons: "but"10:52
ykronsIn order to do some cleaning, I have removed unused recipes for 14.17.1, 14.17.4 and 14.17.6, and since that time, "bitbake <myimage>" returns an ERROR Not manifest generated from: nodejs ...10:53
ykronsI don't understand what is the link ... restoring the deleted recipes, doesn't get build succeed again. I'm currently forcing a rebuild of nodejs to see the image10:54
ykronsCan someone explain or point a doc on that manifest stuff?10:54
dacavHello.  I'm new to Yocto.  Since I'm quite confused by the build system, I'm following a bitbake tutorial ("A practical guide to BitBake" - https://a4z.gitlab.io/docs/BitBake/guide.html ).  In section 6.2 the second recipe uses `inherit mybuild` (for an existing `mybuild.bbclass`).  The same tutorial has a first recipe that is based on a `base.bbclass` class.  I was wondering why the first recipe does not10:56
dacavneed to `inherit base`.  Is it implicit due to the `base.class` name?10:56
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: for a newcomer that linked resource seems to be quite misleading - i would rather suggest to focus on the general concepts, instead of bitbake peculiarities.10:58
dacavI'd like to know my tools10:58
rburtonbase.bbclass is inherited before the recipes are parsed10:59
dacavWould you recommend a better starting point?10:59
dacavrburton: I see, so it is indeed a magic name!10:59
rburtonno, its' not magic10:59
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: you can always look up bitbake syntax and inner workings if needed, but as long as you don't have a good grasp on the whole thing, battling bbclass  syntax on a barebones layer is probably not.... helpful.10:59
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: 1) set up a minimal build 2) add a layer 3) add an image 4) add a recipe for a package of your choice.11:00
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: especially for 4), which is also the main task in everyday life, there should be excellent documentation available, let me look it up11:00
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#common-tasks - the subitems are in perfect order.11:02
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RPdacav: base is just inherited by everything, always there11:03
dacavJosefHolzmayrThe: I've read this guide already, but I'd like to start small11:03
dacavsmall-er11:04
JosefHolzmayrThedacav: well do so if you insist, but experience shows that it will only distract and confuse you. to use an analogy: if you're learning car mechanics, you certainly need *some* understanding of tools and parts, but you won't need to know the exact process of latex vulcanization for the tires.11:05
JosefHolzmayrTheits a tire, you get it, you use it. done.11:05
JosefHolzmayrTheRP OTOH almost certainly knows how to make his own...11:05
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JosefHolzmayrTheme for example, i have never looked into base.bbclass, in all my YP times.11:08
JosefHolzmayrTheits there, it works.11:08
RPJosefHolzmayrThe: for the record I have never made my own tyres11:09
JosefHolzmayrTheRP: just for lack of time, I'm sure.11:09
* RP has rebuilt the odd engine/car/motorcycle/kart :)11:09
RPJosefHolzmayrThe: not cost effective :)11:10
JosefHolzmayrThebut you also have looked at base.bbclass, so i guess thats fair game.11:10
dacavThe fact is, I'm really confused by that documentation.  I'm confused exactly because it skips on important details (what should a .bb contain? To what .bb will .bbappend be applied? Etc).  Everyone has got a different way of understanding things, I need some bottom-up :)11:10
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dacavRP: is base inherited implicitly?11:11
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JosefHolzmayrThedacav: well, good luck then. :) if you find any specific part of the documentation wanting, then please let us know so it can be improved.11:13
dacavhehe, thanks :) - I'll be happy to help, in future, should I reach a sufficient knowledge level to be helpful :)11:15
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RPdacav: it is just always inherited by bitbake, I guess you could say that is implied11:19
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mckoandacav: I've already seen that website. Unfortunately is not updated and in some steps is broken11:35
qschulzdacav: actually... it'd be best to let us know how to improve it *before* you reach a sufficient knowledge level, because that's specifically total beginners' view on docs we're missing. Some people in the community have been working for more than a decade on Yocto/Bitbake so some things are just obvious to them and the docs sometimes reflect that by forgetting some important notions or quirks11:38
Perceval[m]Hello all, I'm new here and I have some trouble on yocto :)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e849027aed7d85bd44db95b869d7067a986fd29c)11:39
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qschulzPerceval[m]: try to limit your messages to one line at a time, so old folks using IRC can still read your message without opening it in a browser :)11:43
qschulzPerceval[m]: `bitbake nodejs -e | less` and look where this "4" is coming from11:44
qschulzyou have the variable history too so you'll be able to know at least in which file and line this comes from11:44
qschulzwhich is a huge help11:44
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Perceval[m]hey qschulz, sorry for the big message :s11:47
Perceval[m]okay I will try that11:47
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Perceval[m]the variable history will be printed by bitbake -e command or stored in a file?11:50
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moto_timo[m]Perceval 🛡️🗡️: looking at the honister version of the recipe, there is an additional line for x86—64 support http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-devtools/nodejs/nodejs_14.17.1.bb?h=honister#n4611:56
Perceval[m]could you point me the line number please? I can't see it11:59
moto_timo[m]It’s in the url11:59
moto_timo[m]The #n46 at the end of the url is the line number12:00
moto_timo[m]Ah, the dunfell recipe has it too. Line 40. Too early and no coffee yet.12:02
dacavmckoan: Too bad, I like the idea of an entry-point tutorial.  But I've to say I've already got more confidence, even if I found some differences between what the tutoral says and what the reality is.12:02
RPmoto_timo[m]: why are you up? :)12:02
moto_timo[m]RP: Because I need to be up for the summit all week long ;) practice12:03
MauroAnjoHello! I'm trying to create a recipe to build: https://github.com/raspberrypi/libcamera-apps , it DEPENDS on libcamera that is present in the build but pkg_check_modules cannot find it and fails12:05
dacavqschulz: well, so far I find the documentation well written.  The confusion I've got comes from the lack of an obvious starting point: there's a lot of information, but I can hardly contextualize it.  I'm not saying that anyone has the same difficulty: it might be fine for others.12:06
dacavI can hardly give any good suggestion, sorry :)12:06
rburtonMauroAnjo: did you inherit pkgconfig?12:08
MauroAnjorburton Yeap, 'inherit cmake pkgconfig'12:09
rburtonpastebin the log?12:10
rburton(and the recipe)12:10
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MauroAnjorburton https://pastebin.com/vtzdpmCZ -> recipe12:12
rburtonyou'll want to put protocol=https in the SRC_URI as github is turning off the traditional git protocol12:14
MauroAnjo@rbu12:14
MauroAnjorburton https://pastebin.com/W56ZUNxB -> output12:15
rburtoni wonder if the libcamera forgets to install a .pc file12:16
rburtonguessing paths, but can you ls tmp/sysroot-components/*/libcamera/usr/*/pkgconfig12:16
MauroAnjoit is the default openembedded libcamera on recipes-multimedia12:16
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moto-timohttp://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-multimedia/recipes-multimedia/libcamera/libcamera.bb?h=master#n5412:19
moto-timoSo you need to depend on libcamera-dev12:20
rburtoni wonder why the recipe is so horrid12:20
rburtonDEPEND, no12:20
* moto-timo still waking up clearly12:21
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rburtonyeah back to bed moto-timo  ;)12:21
MauroAnjols tmp/sysroots-components/*/libcamera/usr/*/pkgconfig12:21
MauroAnjothere is a camera.pc12:21
rburtonbut the camera-apps thing looks for libcamera12:22
rburtonhttps://git.linuxtv.org/libcamera.git/commit/src/libcamera/meson.build?id=ec7afef665a87eb389a5a4cb9ff35e9c24bbcc2912:24
rburtonyou need a newer libcamera than comes with honister12:24
rburtonor, an older libcamera-apps12:24
rburtonhttps://github.com/raspberrypi/libcamera-apps/commit/729df015fb37ab25abd73c4832f9e7fa5d1cb8de was when camera-apps was updated for the new name12:25
rburtonso basically you've got new libcamera-apps but old libcamera, and they disagree over what the pkgconfig file is called.12:25
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MauroAnjooh I see, that was very helpful, will dig into that :)12:29
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moto-timoUpstream libcamera doesn’t seem to like tags. Lol12:35
moto-timohttps://git.linuxtv.org/libcamera.git/12:35
MauroAnjolibcamera-apps also kind of messy with branching and tags :/12:36
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moto-timohttps://git.linuxtv.org/libcamera.git/refs/12:36
MauroAnjovery recent raspberry libs to replace old MMAL stuff with raspistill, etc12:36
moto-timoLol12:36
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MauroAnjonot libs, apps hehehe12:37
moto-timoThat was me chuckling at /refs/ being a 40412:37
sb27I'm trying to cross-compile boost 1.69 with a source'd yocto SDK, and I get errors related to headers not being found (https://www.dropbox.com/s/jac3qfu1lpfc6ig/b2-cross-compile.txt?dl=0). I found in the output that the lib paths are wrong (/opt/.../usr/bin/bin, /opt/.../usr/bin/lib etc), but that doesn't explain why the headers can't be found.12:38
sb27Anyone know how to fix this or what I'm doing wrong?12:38
MauroAnjogoing back to older git commits it was able to find libcamera, but now is complaining about X11 even though I stated to not use it hehehe12:38
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MauroAnjohttps://git.libcamera.org/libcamera/libcamera.git/refs12:40
MauroAnjoother git source on official website :P12:40
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moto-timoAh, the url in the recipe should maybe be updated ;)12:42
MauroAnjoyeap12:42
moto-timoHmmm. Git repo with no tags or branches. When should we consume it as stable? “Whenever”12:45
moto-timoIt’s the cloud-native “trust a commit hash” model of software “releases”12:46
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agherzanHi guys. Did anything change on the infra side of the git server? I used to have credentials to mirror to https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-raspberrypi/ and now it I get a timeout on ssh.13:15
agherzan+ git push --mirror git@git.yoctoproject.org:meta-raspberrypi13:15
agherzanssh: connect to host git.yoctoproject.org port 22: Connection timed out13:15
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agherzanLast successful run: 23rd of Nov13:15
agherzanFirst fail: 26th of Nov13:15
djWhat happens if you run 2 bitbakes of separate builds that share the same sstate-cache and downloads folder?13:16
zeddiiyah, it needs to be push.yoctoproject.org now13:16
zeddiiagherzan: ^^^^^^^13:16
djlike i want to test someone's PR and I also want to test my changes, but both share the same downloads folder and it's downloading linux-yocto13:16
zeddiidj: lock files, etc, deal with it.13:17
zeddiiit is comon to share those directories.13:17
zeddiis/comon/common/13:17
djso it won't mess things up? it's handled automatically?13:17
zeddiithat's the design anyway :D13:17
agherzanI see zeddii . Is it the same port?13:17
djhahah alright13:17
zeddiiyah13:17
djthanks zeddii13:18
zeddiiagherzan: I just changed my configs from git -> push in the .configs13:18
zeddiiand I was able to push, both to meta-virt and a pull request to contrib13:18
agherzanCheers. Trying it now.13:18
qschulzdacav: oh no, it's well known that Yocto has a very steep learning curve so you're not alone. The issue is that there's a lot to teach and usually when people start using Yocto they are under pressure and just want to do something, so it's hard to find a good balance between a getting started and something complete enough to help in one very specific scenario.13:18
zeddiiagherzan: if it doesn't work, it might be the mirror part is different and we'd need rp or halstead to comment.13:19
Perceval[m]qschulz: thank you very much I discovered where the 4 was coming from thanks to your command, "PARALLEL_MAKE" as set as "4" in one of the scripts of the project. It is now solved :)13:20
agherzanzeddii: It works now for the auth part of it13:22
agherzanBut I get another one: + git push --mirror git@push.yoctoproject.org:meta-raspberrypi13:22
agherzanremote: fatal: bad object 000000000000000000000000000000000000000013:22
agherzanremote: fatal: bad object 000000000000000000000000000000000000000013:22
zeddiiI was getting that as well13:23
dacavqschulz: :) Yes, I agree. one of the first things I've read has been the "what I wish I'd known about Y.", and I found it amusing.13:23
zeddiiin my case, it was some sort of synchronization issue that was transient (or fixed by halstead, I wasn't sure which).13:23
RPzeddii: how did you fix it?13:23
dacavafter a while, I figured I should break rule 6 and try searching something useful13:23
dacavto get started, that is13:24
zeddiiI couldn't push to poky-contrib or meta-virt due to that a similar bad object message13:24
agherzanzeddii: but did you find a workaround?13:25
zeddiiagherzan: no. halstead was working on the servers at the time and said something about a bad synchronization (not just the delayed one), and it went away shortly after. So I don't know if he git gc'd/prune'd the repo, or what.13:26
agherzanhalstead: can you do the same magic ^ for meta-raspberrypi?13:27
thekappehello guys, if I want to add rsyslog to my distro, is it worth removing syslogd ?13:29
zeddiiagherzan: see this log: https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/%23yocto.2021-11-24.log.html13:29
zeddiisearch for "bad object"13:29
zeddiiand you can see there was some unspoken magic. :D13:30
qschulzPerceval[m]: awesome :)13:31
agherzanThanks zeddii sadly it seems we have to wait for halstead to deal with this too. I can't see anything in logs that you did specifically for fixing this.13:32
* zeddii nods13:32
zeddiiI just tried again later and it worked. so I don't know exactly what happened13:32
agherzanSome server side gc probably but we will get the confirmation for the gatekeeper13:33
* moto-timo now suddenly wants to talk hockey with zeddii13:33
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moto-timomichaelo: in the docs, do we use alt text for e.g. screen captures of qemu to provide hints for accessibility? I doubt we’d want to include the full text…pondering13:41
moto-timomichaelo: I should probably query some of my accessibility colleagues in Debian13:42
qschulzmoto-timo: I don't think we do much currently wrt accessibility13:43
moto-timoqschulz: that’s what I suspected… always room for improvement13:44
qschulzbut since we've not yet written the docs standard, it's a good time to share if there's anything specific to be done wrt accessibility so we can fix it asap and make sure it stays fixed even with new contributions13:44
moto-timoAnd yet, still the same 24 hours in each day.13:44
moto-timoqschulz: yes, good point13:46
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moto-timoI should probably start a thread on docs mailing list13:53
JosefHolzmayrThemoto-timo: i'm envious of your macropad14:03
moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe: it is a game changer. I'm really liking practicing with it.14:04
moto-timoyou can basically program any key to type anything (and also give it a pretty RGB color of your choice)14:05
JosefHolzmayrThemoto-timo: i hadn't ever heard of it. saw it mentioned by you, and its completely sold out14:05
agherzanzeddii: halstead actually that was a red herring I think. On a second run it ran as expected and never saw that object error again.14:05
moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe: yes, like everyone Adafruit is impacted by the supply chain woes. Getting harder and harder to get the parts you need. And if a product goes viral, like the macropad did, you run out.14:06
JosefHolzmayrThemoto-timo: i will need something stream-deckish soon too, and i mean, 50$ and tinkering fun sound much more promising than the elgato stuff14:06
moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe: the little OLED display is also handy :)14:07
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moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe:  and not obvious, but the dial lets you switch between "pages" of  macros (and it is a push button as well)14:07
JosefHolzmayrThemoto-timo: wow14:07
JosefHolzmayrThemoto-timo: you're really doing the streamer thing14:08
moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe:  I use it to turn the OBS virtual camera on and off14:08
moto-timoJosefHolzmayrThe: I had to figure out a way to make the upcoming summit presentations _work_14:08
JosefHolzmayrThehehe14:08
moto-timostill going to be an experiment, but I think it will help a lot14:09
moto-timoI'm concerned how the hands on lab will fly, but that's just me being a bit of a worry wart14:09
JosefHolzmayrTheI'll just click around wildly and break stuff. as usual.14:09
moto-timoyes14:09
moto-timoas will I14:09
JosefHolzmayrThehi514:10
JaMaagherzan: the link to the message from halstead saying to use push.yp.org was included in that meta-rpi issue ticket :)14:10
JaMaagherzan: but thanks for resolving it quickly14:10
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agherzanJaMa: You are right. You did reference the right email announcement but it was not loading. Oh well :)14:12
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djif I want to use bbclasses, is the do_install that is inherited done before or after .bb do_install?14:44
djexecuted before or after*14:44
qschulzdj: if you have a do_install in your bb, only the do_install of the bb will be run14:46
djthank you14:46
qschulzif you want to do something before or after the do_install from a bbclass, you need to use do_install:prepend or do_install:append (or old syntax, replace : with _)14:47
qschulzin your bb14:47
JaMadepends on the place where the inherit appears in the recipe, if it's after the do_install definition, then do_install from bbclass will be executed14:48
JaMaalways use bitbake -e or bitbake-getvar if you're not sure (the history explains it nicely)14:49
qschulzJaMa: true, though it's best practice to do the inherit ASAP in the bb right?14:50
JaMaI have couple of bbappends which add an inherit and then you cannot easily choose14:51
JaMaespecially painful if the main recipe you're bbappending to already inherits "native"14:51
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moto-timoI’ve come across a few cases where the order of the inherit mattered. Not obvious14:55
moto-timoHence why we all recommend bitbake -e and bitbake-getvar14:56
qschulzJaMa: was wondering if that is not a case for e.g. autotools_do_install (don't know if it exists), which is overridden in recipes if do_install is used but you can still (I think?) use it by calling it directly from the recipes' do_install14:57
qschulzmoto-timo: yeah that one's a pain :)14:57
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moto-timoqschultz: also contemplating for docs... the original kernel-lab was qemux86 but now I have content for the summit that is qemuarm64... so now I want a "tab" or some menu that lets the user switch MACHINE/arch.... because why make anything simple?15:11
moto-timough... I always add a t to your name :/15:11
qschulzmoto-timo: use the auto-completion in your IRC client (or change the client if it does not support it :p)15:12
moto-timoindeed... sometimes I forget and just type type type type send oops15:12
qschulzmoto-timo: https://sphinx-tabs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/15:13
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moto-timoqschulz: ah yes... I'll have to think about how to do this (in a future installment)... because large portions of the chapter text would change currently15:14
qschulzmoto-timo: the dependencies are very small so I don't have anything against having that plugin always in our docs15:14
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moto-timoqschulz: yes, it would make e.g. preparing your host distro a bit fancy15:15
qschulzmoto-timo: you have group tabs support already, just need to make sure the labels are identical15:15
qschulzmoto-timo: https://github.com/executablebooks/sphinx-tabs#grouped-tabs15:16
qschulzseems like a nice piece of SW :)15:16
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moto-timoqschulz: I'll definitely keep that in mind when I'm ready to add to/modify the kernel-lab chapters later15:19
moto-timoneed to get the existing docs done and out for review first ;)15:19
moto-timothen we can improve things15:19
moto-timoI must have compiled the kernel 1000 times in the last few weeks. lol15:20
qschulzhehehe, at least we know it works :p15:21
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dwagenkHey There! Should BB_DISKMON_DIRS and BB_DISKMON_WARNINTERVAL be added to BB_HASHEXCLUDE_COMMON by default?15:28
dwagenkI'm investigating why my workstation is not using my build-servers sstate cache as mirror and I think the difference in BB_DISKMON_DIRS is the root cause.15:28
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kergoth@dwagenk nothing should be actually referencing those vars in the metadata, so they should never be in any checksums anyway. certainly they could be excluded, but if nothing uses them for anything it's not really necessary either. bitbake uses those directly, not via other vars16:24
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dwagenkHmmm, I'll have to dive deeper into the problem then. Is there a good way to debug sstate hash comparison? bitbake -e recipes and then pay attention to the BB_HASH etc?16:25
rburtonbitbake-diffsigs will show you the differences in two signatures, if you have the siginfo files to hand16:26
kergothbitbake-dumpsig can be useful too16:27
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dwagenk@rburton @kergoth thanks! I remember having seen those commands before, but never used them yet. I'll look into the problem.16:31
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djdoes each yocto project need to clone yocto?16:51
rburtonif you don't have it on disk already then you'll need to clone oe-core/bitbake/meta-oe/whatever16:52
rburtonbut you can re-use them for different projects as they're only read from, never written to, by a build16:53
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djso i would have a bunch of projects in the same folder in poky or bitbake?17:02
rburtonsure17:02
rburtonmy ~/Yocto has bitbake, poky, meta-arm, meta-oe, meta-clang, etc etc17:03
djright those are layers, but all the projects would share the same build/ directory?17:03
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qschulzdj: oe-init-buildenv ../build-project117:15
qschulzdj: just share sstate-cache and downloads directories between all your proejcts (SEE DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR)17:16
MauroAnjoagherzan Hi! Do you think adding libcamera-apps and updated libcamera in meta-raspberry would be a good idea? Since raspi plans to drop userland, MMAL, for cameras...17:18
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agherzanMauroAnjo: aren't those already in meta-multimedia?17:24
agherzanAlso, do they drop userland?17:24
MauroAnjonot yet, still working, but they are going for a libcamera solution, not sure when they will drop it17:25
MauroAnjohttps://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/accessories/camera.html#libcamera-and-libcamera-apps17:25
MauroAnjoin meta-multimedia (openembedded) you have libcamera, but an older version, had to tweak it, and create a recipe for libcamera-apps that is not present anywhere, at least I have not found it17:26
agherzanhttps://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/pull/1869/files17:27
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agherzanMauroAnjo: it sounds that we should update meta-multimedia and include apps there too17:28
agherzanThanks for raising this MauroAnjo17:29
agherzanThis is most probably because of 64bit support in userland17:29
MauroAnjoyeap, not so hard to make it work, simple recipe, I can make a PR, I'm just finishing to test some features no Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W in 64bits17:29
MauroAnjothats right!17:29
agherzanAnd now that they are going to provide 64images, they faced the problem too17:30
MauroAnjoIt kinda works, but MMAL is messy, I did not even tried to make it work17:30
agherzanThat is not an easy one17:30
agherzanI've looked into it and it's just not a happy thing to do17:30
MauroAnjonoticed 32 bits support for raspberry pi zero 2 W was dropped, I might take a look into it too17:31
MauroAnjoon the PR I mean, it would not build o rpi3-32 I believe17:31
agherzanReally?17:31
agherzanMaybe we should start cleaning up the machines in meta-raspberrypi17:32
MauroAnjo64 bit is working ok, just had trouble with RNDIS and now the imx overlays for cameras17:32
agherzanRight17:32
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MauroAnjothey are still making changes to support raspberry pi zero 2 w, but have not looked why 32 bits was not so straightforward17:35
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djrburton, if you have all those project in the same folder how do you handle it via git? you but your build bash scripts and .git inside the layer folder?17:57
djprojects*17:57
djyou put your*17:57
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kergothhow you fetch and manage multiple git repositories is really up to you, there's no official method, and there are many available tools to assist. kas, repo, submodules, etc18:16
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rburtondj: either by hand because i'm actively fiddling, or with kas18:56
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JaMazeddii: I see couple errors in world builds which include meta-virtualization, are you interested in the list/details or already aware of singularity (broken since last autotools update in oe-core, configure.ac:38: error: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE expanded multiple times), xvisor (failing without python2 on host: xvisor/git-r0/git/tools/scripts/d2c.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory),19:05
JaMauxen-guest-tools (uxen-guest-tools/4.1.8-r0/uxen-4.1.8-72a4af9/vm-support/linux/uxenhc/hypercall.c:127:24: error: too many arguments to function '__vmalloc')19:05
zeddiiJaMa: I had noticed them in some logs, but was heads down on yocto summit stuff. singularity, I need to just blacklist it. the others, I was hoping the main contributors to them would notice, but will eventually look into them.19:18
rburtonkanavin: the explicitly overridden PACKAGECONFIGs in libepoxy, do you agree they're redundant now we don't play games with distro features and rpaths to use the host mesa?19:39
kanavinrburton, we need x11 config for the host and sdk even if the distro feature is disabled for the target19:44
kanavinotherwise virgl in qemu won't work19:45
kanavinthe games with distro features were about opengl, not x1119:46
rburtonok19:46
rburtonrecent epoxy doesn't abort if gl isn't present so i'm hoping we can drop the gtk/gl madness19:47
kanavinyou're welcome to run experiments, but the virgl selftests need to pass if you want to make changes19:47
rburtondo we have anything that exercises gtk without gl19:48
kanavinbtw, vulkan virgl is coming soon-ish too https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-Venus-QEMU-Guests19:48
kanavinso we can run vkcube and various spiffy demos :)19:48
rburtonnice!19:48
kanavinrburton, er, sato?19:48
rburtoni mean in the AB19:48
kanavinah on the host?19:49
kanavinI don't think we do, gtk frontend is only tested with qemu for the purposes of virgl I think.19:49
kanavinrburton, native gtk is also built for the various utility executables19:50
rburtoni meant target, but i'll build a qemuarm64 without gl19:51
* kanavin is confused19:51
rburtononly partly related to the original question :)19:54
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khempoky-contrib is not accessible halstead20:07
halsteadKhem: if you recently updated the remote to the push url remember you'll need you agree to the ssh hosts prompt.20:14
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JaMazeddii: only the singularity one is "new" other 2 are probably failing like this for a while, I just haven't seen them until now, because I had meta-virt included only in qemux86 build and these 2 are only for x86-6420:24
zeddiiyah. looks like the kernel bump and / or libheaders got them. I'm surprised the Xen users didn't point out that failure. I'm just trying  to see if there's a version bump for it now.20:25
JaMait's definitely failing in honister already, my dunfell world is still running20:25
zeddiixvisor as well.20:25
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moto-timodj: I intentionally do not build in poky. So when I setup a build it’s “. ~/Project/poky/oe-init-buildenv /srv/build-project” or I use kas as rburton said20:32
moto-timoHuh.  dj not here anymore20:32
halsteadkhem: In case you missed it https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto-infrastructure/message/16920:34
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rburtonhm, someone recently made a tool to process bitbake dependency files, and i've lost it21:06
rburtoncan anyone remember where it was?21:06
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ziga_Hey! I want to use layer "meta-ti" which needs "meta-arm/meta-arm" and "openembedded-core/meta" layers. So I downloaded all, checked out "dunfell" (same as poky) and I added all three layers to the BBLAYERS in "local.conf". Now when I test with "bitbak-layers show-layers, I get an error: "ERROR: Found duplicated BBFILE_COLLECTIONS 'core', check bblayers.conf or layer.conf to fix it." This is all the layers that I added to the preexisting21:18
ziga_layers. I must have 2 layers that provide the same BBFILE_COLECTION and I see that it is "openembedded-core/meta/" and "poky/meta". What can be done?21:18
ziga_Only these two provide `core` for the variable BBFILE_COLECTIONS.21:19
rburtonif you have poky you don't need oe-core21:20
rburtonas poky is bitbake + oe-core glued together21:21
rburtonso, remove oe-core21:21
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moto-timorburton: i thought I had it open in a tab. I remember it was on GitHub, but searching is not finding it21:23
moto-timorburton: now the question is, which day of IRC logs to search?21:23
moto-timorburton: https://gitlab.com/jaskij/oe-dependency-tool21:30
moto-timorburton: https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/%23yocto.2021-11-17.log.html21:34
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khemhalstead: thanks that fixed it.22:21
RPthat perl manpage race just happened again on the autobuilder :(22:27
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agherzanzyga_: The error is masked22:58
agherzanMost probably you have a dependency issue22:58
agherzanCheckout the cooker logs22:58
agherzanzyga_: Checkout https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1318323:07
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moto-timoliberachat seems to have had an aneurysm23:11
moto-timorburton23:17
moto-timoAh he’s signed off23:17
RPmoto-timo: I'm showing him as here23:22
moto-timoRP right you are. I sent DM23:23
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dvorkindmitryis it required to put COPYNG.MIT license file into root layer dir? may it be proprietary or GPL too?23:54

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