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| dvorkindmitry | what standard global variable I can use to refer to the current layer name in the recipes? | 07:22 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | yo dudX | 07:35 |
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| wyre | where you'll place an useradd recipe? | 07:51 |
| wyre | recipes-bsp? | 07:51 |
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| wyre | maybe something like recipes-system? 🤔 | 07:53 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | i would place it with the application stack that actually requires/uses said user. | 07:54 |
| wyre | JosefHolzmayrThe, but ... couldn't I create a general purpose user? | 07:54 |
| wyre | to avoid using root | 07:54 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | wyre: whats the point of a generic user on an embedded system? | 07:55 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | usually its rather a "i want my stuff to run as this user". where "my stuff" is exactly the application stack that I just referred to. | 07:56 |
| wyre | I guess I was thinking in security/stability concerns ... | 07:56 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | wyre: things don't become more secure just because you add a random non-root user. | 07:56 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | running things as non-root increases security. so you have to look and decide what runs as non-root, and make those do so. and when you're doing that, you're already in the perfect place to add the users as needed. | 07:57 |
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| wyre | I see, thank you JosefHolzmayrThe 😊 | 08:16 |
| wyre | I was thinking in usual general purpose distros | 08:16 |
| qschulz | Tartarus: honestly, I would say no. It encourages people to not point to licenses in the source code which defeats the whole purpose of LIC_FILES_CHKSUM | 08:33 |
| qschulz | dvorkindmitry: I think what you're after is LICENSE_PATH, c.f. https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-LICENSE_PATH | 08:36 |
| qschulz | e.g. https://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/conf/layer.conf#n47 | 08:37 |
| qschulz | you still need to point to a file or a section of a file expliciting it is of the license listed in LICENSE, but the content of the deployed license will be of the one in LICENSE_PATH IIRC. This is useful when you add a license which isn't already present in any layer, then the build system complains about a non-existing license or something like that | 08:39 |
| qschulz | dvorkindmitry: ah, it was said already, just didn't read the whole backlog :p | 08:42 |
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| ziga | Hey! I have a desktop C++ application that uses libraries "libqwt-qt5" and "libboost". It is a QT5 application that I compile and run with "qmake" and then "make". It compiles and works perfectly on Debian 11. Now I want to include my application in "poky". Can somebody give me some advice where to start? I assume I have to first create layers that will compile and install "libboost" and "libqwt-qt5". But I also need a layer that it will | 09:28 |
| ziga | include QT5 in "poky". Are my goals okay or should I do something else? I think that layer for QT5 already exists so probably I can just include it... | 09:28 |
| qschulz | ziga: meta-qt5 for qt5 recipes | 09:29 |
| qschulz | ziga: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layers/ to find layers and/or recipes you might be interested in and where to get them | 09:30 |
| qschulz | ziga: I highly recommend watching the tutorials on Yocto project youtube channel and read as much of the documentation at docs.yoctoproject.org to not be too lost when starting | 09:31 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | the livecoding video on pagaging even features boost IIRC | 09:32 |
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| ziga | I watched the entire Holzmayr's playlist and created my notes. So I am a beginner already... I just don't want to start in the wrong direction and loose too much time. So QT5-meta can be solved with an already existing layer "meta-qt5" (thank you qschulz). I also checked and it looks like "libqwt-qt5" is part of this layer (https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/tree/master/recipes-qt/qwt) I also remembered (thank you Josef) that you use "boost" | 09:41 |
| ziga | in multiple videos (numbered 15 & 17). Is "qmake" build system also well supported with Yocto like "cmake", "make", "meson" & "autotools" are? | 09:41 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga: I think meta-qt might provide a qmake class. | 09:43 |
| ziga | Okay. It looks like "meta-qt5" is all I need! This looks promising. | 09:44 |
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| td | Hi, | 10:05 |
| td | I found the problem that when I'm building for example patch-native from sstate-cache from different directory its binary is linked against the old dynamic loader causing "bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory". In fact ldd on patch binary shows the buildtools path that was used in the previous build, not in current build. Is such issue | 10:05 |
| td | known? It's gatesgarth | 10:05 |
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| wCPO | What is the process for getting a commit backported from master to honister? In this case this commit: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-virtualization/commit/recipes-containers/cri-o/cri-o_git.bb?id=17e0be0dc3763bd7a92728b90087072c5afc59ea | 10:44 |
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| qschulz | wCPO: https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded#Backporting_fixes_to_stable_releases | 10:47 |
| wCPO | qschulz: I get better at googling | 10:49 |
| * coldspark29[m] uploaded an image: (83KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sUdqESwPPuejxxZpbycnQmSn/image.png > | 10:59 | |
| coldspark29[m] | qschulz: Is it normal that menuconfig looks this weird with Pyrex? | 10:59 |
| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: don't know, I'm not using menuconfig with bitbake usually | 11:02 |
| coldspark29[m] | qschulz: How else to use it? I want to change the kernel defconfig. The Variscite Wiki says to use that | 11:03 |
| coldspark29[m] | I would rather edit it with Vim anyway | 11:03 |
| coldspark29[m] | Need to deactivate some modules that are already included | 11:04 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | that can happen if the terminal isn't playing nice with ncurses. just carry on, nothing bad will happen. | 11:04 |
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| coldspark29[m] | JosefHolzmayrThe: I know that nothing bad will happen, but it doesn't span over the whole screen and I don't find what I am looking for anyway. I would rather use xconfig | 11:05 |
| coldspark29[m] | But that doesn't work | 11:05 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | "/" will let you search | 11:05 |
| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: I use menuconfig from the Linux kernel git repo checked out at the correct commit | 11:08 |
| qschulz | don't use vim to change defconfig | 11:08 |
| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: I guess it's something to do with the number of columns in the terminal | 11:21 |
| coldspark29[m] | qschulz: I never had problems on my host though | 11:22 |
| coldspark29[m] | I will check out mainline Linux and test | 11:23 |
| coldspark29[m] | So no issues on my host with mainline Linux | 11:31 |
| coldspark29[m] | So either a bitbake or Pyrex problem | 11:31 |
| coldspark29[m] | Unfortunatley I can't test bitbake on my host, because it says glibc-2.34 was missing | 11:32 |
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| RP | Saur: Is there something I'm missing about this proposed fetcher from axis? | 12:34 |
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| Saur | RP: I have not been involved in that work, but as far as I understand the idea is to let a layer repository be a superrepo. I.e., say we have a recipe foo.bb that uses the submodule: fetcher, then the repository used by the foo recipe is a submodule _of the layer repository_. I.e, for any given version of the layer repository the version of the foo repository is also well defined. | 12:45 |
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| qschulz | this looks like it's something that repo should be doing, not bitbake? | 12:53 |
| qschulz | (repo in Google Repo tool) | 12:53 |
| Saur | qschulz: The idea is if you have 1000s of recipes, you only want to fetch the submodules for the recipes that you actually build. | 12:54 |
| Saur | And you do not want to fetch them at all if you build from sstate. | 12:55 |
| frosteyes | coldspark29[m]: I have had similar problems inside docker etc. A solution for me have been to set TERM=screen as environment variable. | 12:58 |
| coldspark29[m] | frosteyes: In Docker or the host? | 12:59 |
| frosteyes | like docker exec -it -e TERM=screen yocto bash | 13:01 |
| coldspark29[m] | So it should be fixed in Pyrex I guess. qschulz ? | 13:01 |
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| frosteyes | If I connect to a docker container named yocto and start bash with TERM set to screen for the environment variable. screen then handle the ncurses part. | 13:02 |
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| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: on your host, can you do echo $TERM? | 13:13 |
| coldspark29[m] | xterm-256color | 13:14 |
| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: do you not have a TERM has an unrecognized value of... when starting the container? | 13:16 |
| qschulz | I had the issue with alacritty | 13:16 |
| coldspark29[m] | qschulz: What do you mean? | 13:16 |
| coldspark29[m] | Not sure | 13:16 |
| coldspark29[m] | I use Konsole | 13:16 |
| coldspark29[m] | KDE for life | 13:17 |
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| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: when you source the pyrex script or execute a bitbake command, is there a warning message somewhere? | 13:26 |
| coldspark29[m] | qschulz: No haven't seen anything | 13:26 |
| coldspark29[m] | When sourcing I don't remember. Let me check | 13:27 |
| coldspark29[m] | No nothing | 13:29 |
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| qschulz | ok, then it might just be a missing package or something | 13:30 |
| RP | Saur: oh, I see. So the idea is a the layer itself has submodules pointing at the actual source code. That is horrible :( | 13:33 |
| rburton | do we support out of tree fetchers yet | 13:37 |
| rburton | and i feel this is a good reason to enable them if not :) | 13:37 |
| coldspark29[m] | <qschulz> "ok, then it might just be a..." <- Should I make an issue? | 13:38 |
| RP | rburton: crate fetcher is a working example | 13:39 |
| Saur | RP: I didn't say I liked the idea, because I find it horrible as well... | 13:43 |
| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: I don't know, I'm just a user of Pyrex :) | 13:47 |
| qschulz | I contributed/complained about a thing or two to make it work with zsh and podman but that's it | 13:47 |
| rfs613 | coldspark29[m]: I'm not using pyrex, but I see similar issue as you when trying to run menuconfig via bitbake. | 13:53 |
| rfs613 | changing TERM between screen/xterm and -256color does not change the behaviour | 14:04 |
| rfs613 | but running "make ARCH=arm menuconfig" directly in the kernel source dir works correctly. | 14:04 |
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| coldspark29[m] | Any idea how to reset environment variables in U-Boot? It doesn't load my default variables on boot. When I enter `env default -a`, I get the defaults, but they are not loaded on boot. I already tried `saveenv` | 14:22 |
| coldspark29[m] | <rfs613> "coldspark29: I'm not using pyrex..." <- But Docker I assume? | 14:22 |
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| qschulz | coldspark29[m]: the board file can override environment variables at boot, but you'll have more luck on #u-boot | 14:24 |
| coldspark29[m] | But I hate IRC haha | 14:24 |
| coldspark29[m] | I don't get how it works | 14:26 |
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| coldspark29 | Test | 14:31 |
| coldspark29[m] | Ah interesting | 14:31 |
| coldspark29[m] | This is a Matrix bridge | 14:31 |
| Tartarus | Yeah, there's a bridge for a few OE/Yocto related IRC channels | 14:34 |
| coldspark29[m] | It is creeping me out in IRC that you can't see previous messages | 14:34 |
| coldspark29[m] | It is like talking to a dark cave | 14:35 |
| coldspark29[m] | A dark cave with some connection information written on the wall of course | 14:35 |
| cperon | Hi guys, is it expected that when a generator return empty buffer the GeneratorExit is never raised ?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c43408010a8ae590b63021f8313db5a66ed16313) | 14:35 |
| RP | Saur: At least I understand what they're trying to do now, thanks. | 14:36 |
| Saur | RP: Good (that you understand). | 14:37 |
| rfs613 | coldspark29[m]: no, native build, no docker, no pyrex... | 14:38 |
| cperon | * Hi guys, is it expected that when a generator return empty buffer the GeneratorExit is never raised ?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/07fa90ff2ebbe5acd5d2e631ad75baca0357926d) | 14:39 |
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| JPEW | Ugh, we have a vendor layer that include all the source code in the layer itself and pulls it in with externalsrc; its' constantly causing problems :( | 14:39 |
| JPEW | I'm not a fan of perpetuating that pattern | 14:39 |
| smurray | JPEW: heh, that's worse than the giant repo scheme with lots of use of file://../../.. that I've seen | 14:40 |
| rfs613 | coldspark29[m]: there are archives of this channel at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto | 14:40 |
| JPEW | smurray: Ya, those are annoying too | 14:40 |
| qschulz | JPEW: I had the source code of the program include the yocto layer where the build directory was put by bitbake | 14:41 |
| JPEW | smurray: At least they don't tend to break as often | 14:41 |
| smurray | JPEW: yeah | 14:41 |
| coldspark29 | @rfs613 I also have them in Matrix | 14:41 |
| rfs613 | coldspark29: okay then ;-) | 14:41 |
| cperon | * Wrong channel | 14:42 |
| JPEW | qschulz: That sentence is valid syntax, but I cannot parse it... and I'm not sure i want to :) | 14:43 |
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| qschulz | JPEW: src/{poky,build,custom-layer} :) | 15:14 |
| qschulz | or let's say actually: src/ on one side and then yocto/{poky,build,custom-layer} and... externalsrc to the root of the git repo | 15:15 |
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| * JPEW suspects qschulz and JPEW are talking about the same vendor layer ;) | 15:17 | |
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| JPEW | Or it's more common that I though | 15:18 |
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| qschulz | JPEW: no, it was a created layer by the company :) | 15:19 |
| qschulz | but I've seen two vendor "layers" and I cannot unsee them :/ | 15:19 |
| qschulz | RP: sign that the submodule:// is a bad idea, Pontus's answer was in my spam folder :D | 15:20 |
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| vd | is it a good practice to have uppercase distro/machine features? I want to easily identify custom (company) features but a prefix can be a bit cumbersome. What are the general recommendations for such custom features? | 16:12 |
| rburton | do that if you want i guess | 16:16 |
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| vd | when you need to "harden" an image for releases or customer-faced systems, do you usually define an hardened machine configuration or an hardened distro (or distro feature)? | 16:19 |
| vd | (assuming it cannot be done at the image level because there are some kernel/bootloader/distro-wide implications for example) | 16:21 |
| rburton | distro | 16:22 |
| vd | makes sense | 16:23 |
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| vd | rburton with e.g. a distro class overrides and a few :df-hardened overrides in recipes | 16:24 |
| vd | and same for development with e.g. a "debug" distro override | 16:26 |
| rburton | personally, if you've a distro, just harden by default | 16:27 |
| vd | rburton: I see, you prefer to explicit the debug state | 16:29 |
| vd | would it make sense to define a "dev" variant for the machine you're working on or a dev distro variant often suffice? | 16:29 |
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| qschulz | vd: do NOT start a machine name with an uppercase letter | 16:39 |
| rfs613 | does the prefix "mc:k3r5" in front of many recipies have some significance? some kind of namespace maybe? | 16:39 |
| qschulz | honestly, I've banned uppercase letters and underscores just to be on the safe side | 16:39 |
| qschulz | rfs613: it's multiconfig syntax | 16:40 |
| rfs613 | qschulz: ah, thanks. | 16:40 |
| qschulz | vd: ah never mind, read machine conf instead of machine features | 16:40 |
| marc1 | I'm looking at this commit from meta-freescale: https://github.com/Freescale/meta-freescale/commit/19cbde82409d5cb9d93d2e3a8cc9394497f99ebd | 16:40 |
| qschulz | i am too now | 16:41 |
| marc1 | And I don't understand the reason behind this... | 16:41 |
| marc1 | Why would we set COMPATIBLE_MACHINE? | 16:41 |
| rburton | you'd have to ask khem what prompted that | 16:42 |
| rburton | i'd have said that's overkill | 16:42 |
| marc1 | I mean uuu can run on any platform. I understand it is mostly used for native builds | 16:42 |
| rfs613 | seems they should have called it imx-updater ;-) | 16:46 |
| frosteyes | Does the kernel recipes have a way for build the userspace tools available in the kernel? | 16:53 |
| frosteyes | Need the usbip tool https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/tools/usb/usbip so was just thinking on there was a way of building tools in the kernel.. | 16:54 |
| vd | I feel like development/debug/release profile (or whatever you name it) is more than just a distro feature, but more a combined machine/distro feature. e.g. a development environment must be enabled on both a developer-friendly hardware as well as being a software (distro) choice | 17:00 |
| frosteyes | seems other have been there :) https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/topic/86249103?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,0,0,86249103 | 17:01 |
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| RP | zeddii: I assume I can remove that python3 module you added for the kernel? I don't think it is actually needed and it saves me trying to resolve the license issue | 17:37 |
| RP | zeddii: ah, I just saw qschulz's reply :( Why is this not building in places I'd expect then? :/ | 17:39 |
| RP | oh, probably as it only needs the native version. That would explain things | 17:40 |
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| sgw | RP: is there a way to limit a warning to one time from anonymous python? kind of like the kernel's warn_once()? | 19:37 |
| sgw | short of touching some file to check and slow everything down! | 19:37 |
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| rburton | sgw: you can set a unique variable in d as a token | 20:07 |
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| sgw | rburton: I guess that's an option, is there an existing pattern to replicate? | 20:10 |
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| RP | sgw: no existing pattern I know of | 20:49 |
| sgw | RP thanks | 20:51 |
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| wyre | hi guys, could I set the password in a separate file for dealing with root setting password? | 21:28 |
| wyre | I've been reading this https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_set_or_change_the_root_password | 21:28 |
| wyre | but ... I wouldn't like to set the pass in the recipe file because I'm doing scv with git | 21:28 |
| wyre | so I guess I could do the recipe to fetch the password form a separate file, right? | 21:29 |
| Saur | wyre: That page is a bit obsolete. The nonstandard -P option has been removed again. Use -p instead, which takes a hashed value. | 21:30 |
| wyre | I see | 21:30 |
| wyre | tyvm Saur 😉 | 21:31 |
| wyre | Saur, with md5 for example? | 21:45 |
| Saur | wyre: I just updated the wiki page. | 21:45 |
| sgw | wyre: Where are you setting the EXTRA_USERS_PARAM? In your local.conf, which you are maintain with GIT? | 21:46 |
| sgw | You could have your local.conf include another file containing the EXTRA_USERS_PARAM variable if needed. | 21:47 |
| sgw | Saur: you beat me to it! I would have updated it you did not, I also like the python solution vs adding the mcrypt package. | 21:48 |
| Saur | sgw: :) | 21:48 |
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| wyre | Saur, thank you again 😊 | 22:01 |
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| khem | marc1: it did not build for non fsl socs so even though it is a generic kind of, it perhaps is not tested for other socs so point was to limit it to where its tested | 22:13 |
| wyre | what's apt package for? | 22:14 |
| wyre | apparently 'apt' command is not able though I've included it in my image recipe .. | 22:14 |
| khem | marc1: regardless its Freescale/NXP I.MX Chip image deploy tool | 22:14 |
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| wyre | Saur, I think you can also use 'openssl passwd -5 <your pass>', btw | 22:22 |
| Saur | wyre: Yupp. :) | 22:23 |
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