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| coldspark29[m] | Is it safe to share the sstate-cache among all builds? | 12:36 |
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| coldspark29[m] | For different boards I mean | 12:37 |
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| rburton | yes | 13:19 |
| rburton | its safe to share it among *all* builds | 13:19 |
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| RP | rburton, jonmason: We're seeing lots of this systemtap crash on the 5.10 kernel used by poky-altcfg. I have a kernel back trace | 13:47 |
| RP | I guess I should create the bug | 13:48 |
| rburton | please | 13:48 |
| rburton | i need to eat in 10 minutes before a call :) | 13:48 |
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| vd | hi there -- still on runqemu, it seems like it's running because I was 100% CPU usage, but I don't have console, even though I use "serial" or "serialstdio" runqemu options. Any idea how to debug this? | 13:50 |
| vd | (or accessing the tcpserial from outside the container where runqemu is running is an option too) | 13:51 |
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| vd | I think there's an issue with failing to start a VNC server. How can I disable that from runqemu? | 14:27 |
| JPEW | vd: There are some options to disable the GUI I think | 14:28 |
| JPEW | I forget what they are off the top of my head | 14:28 |
| vd | it seems to be caused by -serial mon:vc (^C or ^A+c doesn't work) | 14:29 |
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| Guest21 | hi Yocto Wizards, from the it's to use {AUTOREV} var to grab the last commit, but is it possible to grab the last tagged commit ? Thx | 14:40 |
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| Guest21 | to add info, of course we didn't know the tag name in advance... | 14:42 |
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| JPEW | Guest21: I would setup an automated job to upgrade the recipe to the latest tagged commit and push a change for it; devtool can help with that | 14:43 |
| JPEW | That's what we do at least | 14:43 |
| Guest21 | JPEW do you have some tips yet ? | 14:44 |
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| JPEW | The nuts and bolts are highly dependent on your CI/git setup; but if you look into `devtool upgrade` it can help with the actual upgrading of the recipe | 14:46 |
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| RP | sgw: I'm a bit worried your perl threads change (now in -next) causes meta-oe failures: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/88/builds/1814/steps/14/logs/stdio | 14:48 |
| vd | I don't understand how runqemu defaults to -serial mon:vc, I'm not specifying any of QB_* variables nor inheriting any qemu machine config. Yet the default from qemuboot.bbclass isn't applied | 14:48 |
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| sgw | RP: looking | 14:52 |
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| RP | michaelo: Just looking at the stable docs changes you merged - shouldn't we merge that fix to master first? | 14:56 |
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| RP | hmm, can anyone understand what https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/86/builds/2980/steps/14/logs/stdio means. Weird importlib tracebacks :/ | 15:04 |
| * rfs613 first has to change the font so his old eyes can read it ;-) | 15:06 | |
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| sgw | RP: when I tried master-next with meta-oe, I got a cmake-native:do_configure failure! Not sure what else changed, but trying my perl patch with master instead (which built) | 15:52 |
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| mabnhdev2 | Hi. The last time I looked at the Releases Wiki, Dunfell was scheduled for EOL in April, 2022. Now, I see it has been extended to April, 2024. Is that correct? Can I safely count on that? | 16:46 |
| kanavin_ | mabnhdev2, you should come up with a transition plan regardless, or you'll end up with a mountain to climb when it does end | 16:50 |
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| RP | kanavin_: thanks for the patch! :) | 16:56 |
| mabnhdev2 | kanavin_: Understood. My main problem is that I still require meta-python2 and meta-openssl102 for a while. I am in a very slow transition from python2 to python3. I have no upgrade plan for openssl102 yet. If those two layers become available in Kirkstone, then I'll be able to upgrade. | 16:56 |
| * RP wonders how to tell the difference between these two rpms. It is looking like the compression differs somehow :( | 16:57 | |
| kanavin_ | mabnhdev2, if you need those layers, then take over maintaining them. Don't expect that someone else will make them 'available'. | 16:58 |
| RP | http://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20220106-nni6t0gy/packages/reproducibleA/tmp/deploy/rpm/noarch/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.5.1-r0.noarch.rpm vs http://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20220106-nni6t0gy/packages/reproducibleB/tmp/deploy/rpm/noarch/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.5.1-r0.noarch.rpm | 16:59 |
| kanavin_ | RP: cheers, those virgl failures are usually due to a missing entry in distro excusion list, or vgem module not having been provisioned, or incorrect permissions on the render node device | 17:00 |
| kanavin_ | RP: I'm slightly concerned that alma sets minor revisions in distro identifiers (/etc/os-release), so this will have to be updated more often than centos 8 was | 17:01 |
| kanavin_ | maybe this could be special-cased in meta/lib/oe/lsb.py | 17:01 |
| RP | kanavin_: I guessed that may be the case but decided you'd probably find the right change easier than I would. The minor version could get a little annoying :/ | 17:03 |
| kanavin_ | RP: here's how it'll go probably https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata#RHEL8_Life_Cycle | 17:05 |
| mabnhdev2 | kanavin_: Not as simple as that. With those layers, it's not as much that they need to be maintained as they are legacy, but it's more making sure the the rest of the layers don't do anything that forces those layers into EOL. I suspect that would be or will soon become a sisyphean effort. | 17:05 |
| RP | JPEW: thanks :) | 17:06 |
| RP | kanavin_: so one every six months. Could be worse I guess | 17:07 |
| kanavin_ | RP: I guess next time alma bumps the minor version, we could add code that strips that | 17:07 |
| RP | kanavin_: sounds like a plan | 17:07 |
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| kanavin_ | mabnhdev2, I get ya, so you need a real plan and schedule to transition away, and management's commitment to it | 17:09 |
| kanavin_ | but yes, you do have until spring 2024 | 17:09 |
| kanavin_ | the problem is that the more you delay it, the bigger the delta to 'current yocto' becomes | 17:10 |
| mabnhdev2 | kanavin_: Yeah, but that's just a different sisyphean effort:) . Anyway you look at it, that rock is just going to roll over me. | 17:11 |
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| vd | QB_SERIAL_OPT is broken somehow, its default in never used | 17:11 |
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| michaelo | RP: these patching documentation changes are in master-next too. I submitted the stable updates to the docs@ mailing list and nobody objected, so I wanted to empty my pipe :) | 17:20 |
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| RP | michaelo: we do have a strict backport policy though so I *have* to take them to master now ;-) | 17:44 |
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| michaelo | RP> Oops, understood. So no backports before going to master. I'll remember this next time. Apologies for the trouble. By the way, don't hesitate to merge master-next as it currently is... This will make my life simpler. | 18:14 |
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| khem | tgamblin: https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-devel/20211211200357.2612244-1-open.source@oleksandr-kravchuk.com/ is in master-next for sometime but I dont see it in you pull requests for meta-python for sometime is there any issue with this ? | 20:42 |
| tgamblin | khem: no issue, I was just looking for that myself because it wasn't in my latest patch build | 20:44 |
| tgamblin | khem: sent a new PR | 20:54 |
| khem | k | 20:55 |
| RP | sgw: were you able to reproduce that meta-oe issue? | 20:56 |
| khem | RP: perl issue ? he sent a v2 | 20:57 |
| RP | khem: ah, yes, great :) | 20:57 |
| khem | he was able to and he has restricted the threading to target perl alone in v2 which fixes those 2 issue | 20:58 |
| * RP hadn't got there yet | 20:58 | |
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| sgw | khem: RP: we might consider removing it again in the future though! Next is 64bit issues in perl! | 21:14 |
| sgw | not sure if people have really noticed though (other than the ones asking for it here). | 21:14 |
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| sgw | RP: switching gears, I was looking at how to move kernel:do_strip() into package.py:runstrip(), biggest issue is how to get the KERNEL_IMAGE_STRIP_EXTRA_SECTIONS into runstrip() | 21:21 |
| sgw | I was not sure if I could just a "d" to the runstrip() method | 21:22 |
| RP | sgw: not with the parallelism issues. You're better off just passing in a string | 21:22 |
| RP | sgw: I think multiple processes are ivolved | 21:22 |
| sgw | Ok, so add a 4th arg to runstrip(), yes it is. | 21:23 |
| RP | sgw: if it is the code I think it is, it will be much less pain | 21:23 |
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| vd | IMAGE_CLASSES += "qemuboot" is more a distro, or machine conf thing? | 22:02 |
| vd | isn't it the responsibility of the distro to tweak images? While the responsibility of the machine is more to tweak base pacakges like packagegroup-core-boot and package-machine-base | 22:03 |
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| RP | vd: I'd say it is highly machine specific | 22:40 |
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