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ziga | Where can I check the compilation output / log for any recipe that was already compiled? | 08:25 |
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qschulz | ziga: if you didn't remove the tmp dir, it's in ${WORKDIR}/temp/log.do_<task> | 08:54 |
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RP | rburton: we have more of those meson "not runnable" errors on arm :( | 09:08 |
RP | ah, but centos7. I wonder if it is that qemu kernel version removal | 09:09 |
dacav | Hi. I've got a defective SDK installer (I can't build it). Is there a practical way of connecting the right gdb to the gdbserver that I'm running on the target? | 09:16 |
dacav | ah, nvm, I think I can try with a minimal method, as by manual. | 09:17 |
ziga | Thank you qschulz! | 09:22 |
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dacav | So, I went for `bitbake gdb-cross-<architecture>` as suggested by the common-tasks manual (both populate_sdk and meta-toolchain tasks fail). I'm now a bit confused on where to find my gdb ... :-/ There's a ton of sub-directories here | 09:45 |
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dacav | The manual suggeests `dir/tmp/sysroots/host/usr/bin/architecture/architecture-gdb`, but there's not much under `sysroots` | 09:46 |
qschulz | dacav: I suspect you're reading old docs? | 09:48 |
qschulz | binaries usually are available in the WORKDIR of the recipe | 09:48 |
qschulz | that is, in tmp/work/<arch>/<recipe-name>/<recipe-version>/ | 09:48 |
dacav | qschulz: eh, I found it now, thanks. It is missing dependencies though. | 09:54 |
dacav | runtime dependencies. | 09:55 |
dacav | (let alone the crazy-long path it is hidden below :D) | 09:55 |
dacav | Am I supposed to chroot somewhere, perhaps? | 09:55 |
dacav | [also, about the docs I'm reading, that's the (current?) `https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#debugging-with-the-gnu-project-debugger-gdb-remotely`.] | 09:56 |
ziga | qschultz there are multiple "do_configure" logs that I am interested i.e. "log.do_configure.1136934" "log.do_configure.2146617" ... How do I use the trailing number to know which one is which? How do I find the last one? | 09:59 |
dacav | ziga: ah, I know this one! YAY! It is the pid | 10:00 |
dacav | also there should be a symlink to the last one, I believe. Otherwise, the last modification date should help ;-) | 10:01 |
qschulz | ziga: use the one without the trailing number | 10:02 |
qschulz | dacav: ok, that's the last docs, I guess they would benefit an updte if it's not correct anymore | 10:02 |
ziga | Thank you dacv & qschulz. Is the one without the trailing number the last one? | 10:02 |
qschulz | dacav: I'm not sure runtime dependencies are built when building a recipe only? | 10:02 |
dacav | ziga: the one without the trailing number should be a symlink to the last one | 10:04 |
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dacav | qschulz: ...not sure either. In this case it is gdb complaining about missing python bits. I'm wondering if they're missing because they're not built, or because the search path should be fixed. | 10:04 |
ziga | @dacav TY | 10:05 |
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qschulz | dacav: I think there's a wrapper to execute host packages built from Yocto but I'm not sure anymore | 10:07 |
qschulz | something like -c devshell? | 10:08 |
dacav | `bitbake -c devshell` or so? I'll try | 10:10 |
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dacav | bitbake -c listtasks gdb-cross-aarch64 | grep -q devshell && echo YEP, I see that. | 10:11 |
dacav | EXCELLENT! | 10:12 |
dacav | qschulz: thanks, that was precious! | 10:12 |
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dacav | This is totally worth a mention in the docs! May I mention it on the docs ml maybe? | 10:13 |
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qschulz | dacav: where would you want this to be mentioned? and what should it say about devshell? | 10:21 |
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hmw[m] | Hi, | 10:26 |
hmw[m] | is $PV availble set as enviroment variable when do_compile is executed ? | 10:27 |
rburton | no | 10:27 |
rburton | you can export it if you want though | 10:27 |
hmw[m] | ( can i use it in cmakelists.txt | 10:27 |
rburton | typically the source knows the version, and the recipe reflects that, not the other way around | 10:27 |
rburton | but just export it if you need to | 10:27 |
hmw[m] | rburton: yes, ( got a few lazy devs that donĀ“t update version number and is updated-ed using ci tools ....) | 10:29 |
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dacav | qschulz: you said that the document I mentioned would benefit from an update. I would suggest to replace the "If you are using the build system, Gdb is located in..." part. | 10:36 |
dacav | (hence replacing the outdated info with this excellent trick!) | 10:37 |
qschulz | dacav: if that is what one's actually supposed to do, fine by me :) | 10:42 |
qschulz | it seems the original doc wasn't correct anymore anyway | 10:42 |
qschulz | I just don't know if it's the proper solution or not | 10:43 |
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Guest49 | Hi.. What would you recommend when I need to override (phyton) function for two machines/overrides? E.g. I have machine machA and machB and func do_something. I would like to override this function for machA and machB | 13:20 |
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qschulz | Guest49: is it a python function or a python task? | 13:38 |
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Guest49 | qschulz sry, task | 14:16 |
Guest49 | or variable override for two (or more) machines/overrides | 14:17 |
qschulz | Guest49: if it's a task, just use the override | 14:21 |
qschulz | Guest49: do_mytask:machA () {} | 14:21 |
qschulz | note that it completely overrides the original do_mytask | 14:21 |
qschulz | if you want to append/prepend, it's a different thign | 14:21 |
Guest49 | qschulz that's clear.. | 14:22 |
qschulz | halstead: michaelo: docs.yoctoproject.org is broken, it returns a file browser instead of the master/dev branch of the docs | 14:23 |
Guest49 | qschulz I would like to do do_mytask:machA () {common logic for machA and machB, but not for others} and do_mytask:machB () {common logic for machA and machB, but not for others}, but combine it so it's not duplicated | 14:25 |
qschulz | Guest49: define a common override in both of your machines and add it to MACHINEOVERRIDES | 14:26 |
qschulz | in the configuration file | 14:26 |
qschulz | then use the common one | 14:26 |
qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/3.4.1/ref-manual/variables.html#term-MACHINEOVERRIDES | 14:27 |
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Guest49 | qschulz thx, that's most probably what I was was looking for | 14:33 |
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dacav | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-ref-variables.html#term-SRC_URI -- git:// vs repo:// ? | 15:09 |
dacav | ...and, can the repo be local? | 15:09 |
qschulz | dacav: repo is a tool from google | 15:10 |
qschulz | git fetcher can be passed a local filepath yes | 15:10 |
qschulz | (starts with three / then) | 15:10 |
dacav | qschulz: thanks :) | 15:11 |
dacav | (it's temporary... The problem with the broken sdk forces me to do weird things :-/) | 15:12 |
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coldspark29[m] | What are your positions on Submodules vs. Kas? What are the advantages and disadvantages? I am not sure which tooling to use. | 15:29 |
coldspark29[m] | Kas seems really convenient, but it also adds a layer of dependency | 15:30 |
rburton | submodules are pretty icky | 15:33 |
rburton | kas is an extra tool but it does more than submodules | 15:33 |
kergoth | kas is nice for reasons beyond just multi-repository, encoding configuration, etc. Depends on your needs | 15:34 |
zpfvo | TIL about kas. Is it something like repo but specific for bitbake? | 15:41 |
rburton | only vaguely | 15:44 |
rburton | it fetches, but also generates configure files and does builds | 15:45 |
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rburton | zpfvo: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-arm/tree/ci/base.yml is the base kas file for the meta-arm CI for example | 15:46 |
rburton | what to fetch, what config, what to build | 15:46 |
zpfvo | rburton: nice, will look into it. maybe we can use it :) | 15:48 |
kergoth | Kas is nice, but I do wish it had more options to generate the config, i.e. from repo manifest, .gitmodules, bblayers.conf, .. | 15:50 |
kergoth | just as a convenience. guess i could do that myself if i cared enough to :) | 15:51 |
vd | does the kernel require particular options for runqemu? | 15:54 |
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coldspark29[m] | @rburton Why do you think they are icky? | 16:02 |
rburton | they're just a bit of a pain to work with | 16:06 |
rburton | you can very much tell that submodules are bolted onto git | 16:06 |
JPEW | I prefer submodules FWIW | 16:09 |
JPEW | They've gotten a lot better, and most tools know how to deal with them now | 16:10 |
kergoth | More git operations seem to recurse into them nowadays at least. Still has some pain points | 16:10 |
JPEW | Plus, I don't like having to gitignore my modules (when not using submodules) because then my grep tools don't recurse into the modules | 16:11 |
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kergoth | I just don't use a parent repository at the top of my workspace, then that's not an issue. I.e. when using repo | 16:13 |
vd | kergoth: wouldn't it be better to have a mechanism such as recipes for the layer you want to use? | 16:17 |
vd | kergoth: in addition to what recipes provide already, we'd benefit from the bitbake fetcher to get the layer repositories from any source | 16:18 |
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coldspark29[m] | Hmm well, I like kas, but I also see the advantage of not being dependent on it. | 17:28 |
halstead | qschulz: Looks like the last docs build didn't copy completely. Docs are rebuilding now. | 17:34 |
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vd | 'runqemu nographic slirp core-image-minimal' works fine with beaglebone-yocto but I have no console with beaglebone from meta-ti, even though I copied over the QB_* variable. | 19:03 |
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halstead | michaelo: Any idea why docs builds are failing https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/114/builds/319 ? | 19:27 |
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halstead | I copied the 3.4.1 docs back to the root of output and recopied. So docs are online again at least. | 19:44 |
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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 20:25 |
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