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| mckoan | good morning | 07:45 |
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| coldspark29[m] | Morgain | 08:29 |
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| kroon | I see noise in buildhistory when doing: bitbake -c cleansstate shadow-native && bitbake shadow-native && bitbake -c clean shadow-native && bitbake shadow-native | 09:51 |
| kroon | The permissions for /var/spool/mail/ jumps between 755 and 775 | 09:52 |
| kroon | I can see that the tar archive in sstate has "correct" permissions (775) for the dir, but when unpacking from sstate it seems the perms are changed to 775 | 09:52 |
| kroon | sorry: ".. are changed to 755" | 09:53 |
| kroon | The target package does not seem to have this issue, only the native one | 09:53 |
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| Harun | Hello:) , how can I add glibc-locale to an image? | 11:10 |
| Harun | if done with IMAGE_INSTALL_append it fails with an error that nothing provides glibc-locale. | 11:10 |
| Harun | Currently the image has locale but no charmaps. | 11:10 |
| Harun | I am using dunfell | 11:11 |
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| RP | Harun: the locales are packaged separately so you probably need to be more specific | 11:13 |
| qschulz | Harun: you have glibc-charmaps package which brings all locales AFAIU | 11:14 |
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| Harun | qschulz: Thank you, that was it :) | 11:49 |
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| kanavin | RP: just so you don't miss it, exclude_packages is now [ ] in repro test :) | 12:43 |
| RP | kanavin: I did notice :D | 12:45 |
| RP | kanavin: feels like we cheated with ruby docs but nice to get there! :) | 12:46 |
| RP | kanavin: thanks for the work on those last pain points! | 12:46 |
| kanavin | RP: yes, it's not perfect, but it doesn't reduce test coverage or runtime support, so I can live with it :) | 12:50 |
| kanavin | and the upstream bug report should be enough for upstream to look into it, if they have capacity and interest | 12:51 |
| RP | kanavin: right, we did try on it | 12:54 |
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| paulg | was trying to build on ubu 16.04 using buildtools + environment-setup-x86_64-pokysdk-linux ; pseudo-native failed final link with missing pow/exp etc until I added "-lm" to link. | 13:53 |
| paulg | Seemed odd. pseudo doing math ops? Not sure anyone cares enough it is worth investigating/patching? | 13:53 |
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| RP | paulg: which buildtools? libm was merged into libc now so this issue probably goes away soon | 14:10 |
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| RP | or perhaps it was caused by a buildtools which has the merge? | 14:11 |
| paulg | I didn't explicitly choose a buildtools, this is what it gave me yesterday. | 14:13 |
| paulg | paul@xeon:~/poky/build$ cat ../buildtools/version-x86_64-pokysdk-linux | 14:13 |
| paulg | Distro: poky | 14:13 |
| paulg | Distro Version: 3.1+snapshot-20200923 | 14:13 |
| paulg | Metadata Revision: 0a243cd21263f498b6eca7c0b168e655dd823e22 | 14:13 |
| paulg | Timestamp: 20200923200053 | 14:13 |
| paulg | (needed buildtools since ubu-16.04 doesn't have py3 v3.6+ fwiw) | 14:13 |
| RP | 3.1 is dunfell I think so technically still supported and would be pre glibc merge | 14:13 |
| RP | 20200923 does sound old though | 14:14 |
| paulg | this is a machine that hasn't been in use for a while ; all repos should be on master and were updated yest. | 14:14 |
| RP | oh. That is bad then :/ | 14:15 |
| paulg | it was idle long enough that I had to do the append dance on local.conf and change conf version from 1 to two ; then blew away sstate tmp cache | 14:15 |
| RP | I was going to say, even dunfell uses a buildtools of autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20210214-8/buildtools/x86_64-buildtools-extended-nativesdk-standalone-3.2+snapshot-7d38cc8e749aedb8435ee71847e04b353cca541d.sh | 14:16 |
| paulg | I'm not really familiar with buildtools or how it chose what to wget, but I think I can scroll up and see.. lemme check. | 14:16 |
| RP | paulg: can you try with the one from https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/config.json#n13 | 14:17 |
| RP | i.e. https://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/yocto/yocto-3.4/buildtools/x86_64-buildtools-extended-nativesdk-standalone-3.4.sh | 14:17 |
| RP | looks like scripts/install-buildtools is just horribly out of date | 14:18 |
| paulg | ok, good - since I can't scroll back that far. It is kinda alarming how much crap one dumps to the screen every hour... :-/ | 14:20 |
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| RP | paulg: you can see the url it is constructing in the script, its way old :/ | 14:30 |
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| paulg | DEFAULT_RELEASE = 'yocto-3.2_M3' | 14:42 |
| paulg | DEFAULT_INSTALLER_VERSION = '3.1+snapshot' | 14:42 |
| paulg | DEFAULT_BUILDDATE = '20200923' | 14:42 |
| paulg | Whee! | 14:42 |
| paulg | That is like from three covid variants ago. | 14:42 |
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| smurray | hmm: https://www.windriver.com/news/press/news-20220111 | 14:48 |
| paulg | looks like rburton touched it last. By my childish metrics, that means he owns it. :) | 14:52 |
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| paulg | RP, no joy - the 3.4 bundle still craps itself. https://paste.debian.net/1226745/ | 15:09 |
| RP | paulg: clean build or a rebuild? | 15:10 |
| RP | paulg: if not a clean tmpdir, try a bitbake pseduo-native -c clean first | 15:10 |
| paulg | paul@xeon:~/poky/build$ history |grep bitbake | 15:10 |
| paulg | 5 bitbake -c cleanall pseudo-native | 15:10 |
| paulg | 6 bitbake pseudo-native | 15:10 |
| paulg | I also exited my shell to ensure no env pollution. | 15:11 |
| * RP quietly curses | 15:11 | |
| RP | paulg: what is odd is I remember fixing those kinds of errors | 15:11 |
| paulg | would globally/unconditionally sticking "-lm" on there for everyone as a workaround break anyone else? | 15:12 |
| RP | paulg: it is wrong with the new glibc :( | 15:13 |
| RP | paulg: what puzzles me more is that this all works on our autobuilder ubuntu1604 machine | 15:13 |
| paulg | well, as usual, somehow us "kernel guys" are doing something slightly different. | 15:15 |
| RP | paulg: do you use uninative? | 15:15 |
| RP | more specifically, do you disable it? | 15:15 |
| RP | paulg: oh, hang on. It is saying sqlite3 has the symbol/ Try cleansstate sqlite-native too | 15:16 |
| RP | sqlite3-native | 15:16 |
| RP | pseudo uses static linking | 15:16 |
| paulg | ok. lemme try | 15:17 |
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| paulg | I did see sq3 on the link line when hacking the Makefile manually, so in theory that might unfsck it. | 15:18 |
| paulg | no joy. And as for uninative - whatever the defaults are should be in place. I'd have to know what it does before I'd want to disable it. :-P | 15:23 |
| RP | paulg: you'd hate it I'm sure but since you don't know about it... ;-) | 15:24 |
| paulg | that pretty much is true for everything, yes. | 15:25 |
| paulg | https://paste.debian.net/1226748/ <--- cleanall of sq3 | 15:25 |
| RP | this is very strange. I'll try and see if I can reproduce on the autobuilder worker | 15:26 |
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| paulg | I can nuke everything and restart - wont be speedy as this is an old core2 quad. | 15:26 |
| paulg | turned it on as a heater - was supposedly -34C this AM. | 15:28 |
| RP | paulg: I have a build going in a terminal. Also meetings :/ | 15:29 |
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| paulg | https://weather.gc.ca/past_conditions/index_e.html?station=yqa | 15:29 |
| smurray | paulg: heh, never realized you're up north of Toronto, what are you stuck with for internet access up there? | 15:33 |
| paulg | smurray, same as when I'm over in Ottawa - cable. Obviously not as all-encompassing over in this area, esp. if you are off the beaten path. | 15:35 |
| smurray | paulg: yeah, I bet | 15:35 |
| * paulg watches "Parsing recipes" contribute to global warming for the 1000th time... | 15:36 | |
| RP | paulg: well, my build with 3.4 worked :/ | 15:38 |
| * paulg is up to sqlite3 building... | 15:41 | |
| paulg | old hardware keeps you honest. You care about where your CPU cycles are going. | 15:41 |
| paulg | Once I manage to kill rust with fire and plague, maybe I can make use of 8G machines again. | 15:42 |
| RP | paulg: you can blame vmeson for rust ;-) | 15:43 |
| paulg | oh believe me, I do. | 15:44 |
| paulg | Regularly. | 15:44 |
| paulg | Nope. Still blows up. I nuked everything but conf and downloads. | 15:46 |
| paulg | Must be triggered by my conf and layer selection somehow? | 15:46 |
| paulg | or installed pkgs on host? | 15:46 |
| paulg | Dunno. | 15:46 |
| paulg | Will look at it again after lunch - need to go do some other overdue crap now. | 15:47 |
| RP | paulg: there is something we're both missing here :/ | 15:49 |
| RP | paulg: are you using poky or nodistro? What is odd is your link line is different to mine in pseudo-native | 15:53 |
| RP | mine has --alow-shlib-undefined on it | 15:53 |
| RP | which is a uninative addition | 15:54 |
| RP | poky enables uninative by default, nodistro doesn't | 15:54 |
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| paulg | I've got the overc layer - which is basically a real-metal version of what was buildappliance, and I think it defines its own distro vars.... | 15:57 |
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| RP | paulg: I think uninative is either not enabled at all or being disabled | 15:57 |
| paulg | let me grep around | 15:57 |
| paulg | unless zeddii can remember... | 15:58 |
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| zeddii | paulg, remember what ? They day of the week ? Maybe. | 16:03 |
| zeddii | but nothing special should be in the overc definitions around uninative | 16:03 |
| paulg | RP, my config has roots going back years. So if we added something to the generic boiler plate template for local.conf around uninative, I might not have it? | 16:05 |
| paulg | like zeddii - I refuse to abandon my config and build directory on a daily basis as the sstate cult seems to do. | 16:06 |
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| zeddii | my current build dir is 6 years old! | 16:10 |
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| rburton | RP: "I'm sending it out after this call" | 16:48 |
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| moto-timo | Python 3.11 schedule for the curious: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0664/ | 16:51 |
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| RP | paulg: what is DISTRO set to? | 16:57 |
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| JPEW | RP: Didn't get to that hashequiv issue. I have another meeting, then lunch, but I should be free in about 2 hours if you still want to go over it today | 17:01 |
| paulg | RP, https://paste.debian.net/1226768/ <--- DISTRO settings | 17:02 |
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| fullstop | Hi all. I'm attempting to build lcurses (lua curses module) with 3.1.4 and I'm running into a bit of trouble. | 18:20 |
| fullstop | It uses automake and I have been able to get it to build, but the rpath is kind of messed up. Some sort of variable is expanding to /usre/ | 18:20 |
| ziga__ | Is solution to this question (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57015416/how-do-i-set-an-environmental-variable-on-my-target-board-using-a-yocto-recipe) still the perfered way of setting up environmental variables? | 18:22 |
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| paulg | RP, so I created a new dir (build-sato), used the default conf dir that oe-init-build-env makes and pseudo-native built ok. (same shell, same buildtools env) | 18:42 |
| paulg | it would seem I found a way to break buildtools with my conf/layers. | 18:42 |
| paulg | I'll diff the conf files and look for suspects | 18:43 |
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| bluelightning | anyone happen to know what would influence whether or not ${B}/tools/* gets installed to ${STAGING_KERNEL_BUILDDIR}/tools ? | 20:40 |
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| mischief | why are both dunfell and kirkstone marked apr 2024 LTS when kirkstone is released 2 years later? | 20:47 |
| JPEW | mischief: dunfell was extended, kirkstone hasn't been | 20:48 |
| JPEW | mischief: dunfell was originally also 2 years FWIW | 20:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | yoyo dudX | 20:48 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: Little late (or early) for you? | 20:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: ~10pm. ok-ish | 20:50 |
| mischief | JPEW: thanks. | 20:50 |
| JPEW | LetoThe2nd: Ugh, 24 hour clock threw me off :) | 20:51 |
| zeddii | bluelightning: do_shared_workdir() (but I'm sure you found that already). but we are currently pretty selective about what gets copied over | 20:51 |
| bluelightning | zeddii: the weird thing is I have the results of one build where stuff has been installed, and one were it hasn't, and I can't tell what would be different between the two at the moment | 20:52 |
| bluelightning | still digging into it | 20:52 |
| zeddii | ah. that's different. task racing ? or is it objtool ? That's conditional on a kernel config | 20:52 |
| bluelightning | in one build just the objtool binary is there, in the other (older build) I have bpf/ and objtool/, and objtool/ contains sources as well | 20:54 |
| zeddii | same machine both builds ? That is odd. | 20:55 |
| bluelightning | yeah... could be that someone has hacked in something somewhere in here to copy those files over | 20:56 |
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| RP | paulg: try adding INHERIT += "uninative" into local.conf. We do this in poky but overc won't pull that in | 21:02 |
| RP | paulg: that should work around the issue but what the real fix is, not sure | 21:03 |
| RP | JPEW: sorry, I was afk, long day. I'm back around now. Did you have any ideas on a fix? | 21:03 |
| JPEW | RP: From a high level, all I could think of was that the unihash for all the dependencies (RDEPENDS?) needs to be in the output.... which doesn't seem fun | 21:04 |
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| paulg | yeah - I'd fired off another new dir, and copied in my old overc conf dir and still got the fail. I'll look at it some more in an effort to understand wtf and what crimes uninative does, now that you've made me curious. | 21:04 |
| JPEW | RP: That would be the only "automated" method that would get all the cases.... otherwise it's just manually annotating cases we find | 21:04 |
| JPEW | At least AFAICT | 21:05 |
| RP | JPEW: that is basically what I was thinking. Either the unihash of dependencies or of things with shlib dependencies | 21:05 |
| RP | we could inject those into the outhash | 21:05 |
| RP | JPEW: I don't like it | 21:05 |
| JPEW | even shlibs is insufficient; imagine a bash script that execs zstd | 21:05 |
| RP | JPEW: right, I know | 21:05 |
| paulg | (or I could move to 18.04 and do a "didn't see it ; didn't happen"...) | 21:06 |
| RP | paulg: I look forward to seeing your reaction when you realise what it does :) | 21:06 |
| paulg | :-P | 21:06 |
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| RP | paulg: it basically lets us use binaries built on one system on any other system regardless of distro | 21:07 |
| JPEW | RP: Perhaps.... do_populate_sysroot_setsecene() can add a file with the deps an their unihash to the sstate archive? | 21:07 |
| sgw | RP: send you and zeddii and another reply, I think am in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. | 21:07 |
| JPEW | That's the really... ugly... way to force the issue | 21:07 |
| RP | JPEW: that was kind of what I was thinking. I wish I'd come up with somethig better | 21:08 |
| JPEW | sgw: The way out of any hedge maze is to always turn left (or right if you prefer).... takes a while though :) | 21:08 |
| sgw | xyzzy works well also, but not sure it will with the kernel.bbclass and package.bbclass | 21:09 |
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| RP | sgw: I think you'll have to tweak do_strip to create a copy and then deploy to use that copy, or move the strip and size check into a larger do_deploy | 21:10 |
| paulg | RP - ok but it does, as you hint, leave one wondering how that bleeds into pseudo-native link flags... presumably some "configure" test... | 21:14 |
| RP | paulg: no, that much is clear to me. the stuff uninative does changes LDFLAGS (see uninative.bbclass) so the options passed in will mean it sees a modern libc with libm merged | 21:16 |
| RP | paulg: my main question is how we'd fix the non-uninative case | 21:16 |
| paulg | Oh, oh, I know! We add "-lm". | 21:18 |
| * paulg runs | 21:18 | |
| paulg | aside from kooks like me, how big is the expected user base for buildtools w/o native unicorns? | 21:19 |
| sgw | RP: yeah, I was thinking about the copy part, I was not sure of changing the ordering of strip/size check wrt install/deply, since install happens first. Thx | 21:19 |
| RP | paulg: it isn't needed with any recent glibc now so it is a backwards step | 21:20 |
| paulg | so was systemd, but that happened anyway. :-P | 21:20 |
| RP | paulg: that space is rather small else we'd have a bug report before now | 21:20 |
| * RP is ignoring conversations that bring systemd in | 21:21 | |
| paulg | kinda what I figured 1st thing this AM - probably nobody is hitting it and largely nobody cares. | 21:21 |
| paulg | [01/11/22:08:53] <paulg> Seemed odd. pseudo doing math ops? Not sure anyone cares enough it is worth investigating/patching? | 21:22 |
| RP | paulg: sqlite3 is doing math ops | 21:23 |
| RP | paulg: this will be what changed things btw: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=84bd11c62e860031c1615ada76d7140b4717276a | 21:24 |
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| RP | sgw: I haven't looked in detail so I don't have all the details in cache, I'm just saying what I'd be thinking/looking at | 21:26 |
| * paulg contemplates a "configure: checking whether "-lm" is needed for ..." kind of deal. | 21:27 | |
| sgw | RP: I guess is was more a checkpoint that a copy might be OK, so I will go down that path for and send a v2 later today (I hope). | 21:27 |
| RP | paulg: we could justify that into pseudo "upstream", which happens to also be effectively me atm | 21:36 |
| paulg | I'll see if I can come up with something that doesn't make me embarrassed to hit send. | 21:38 |
| RP | paulg: pseudo's configure script is shell iirc, no autotools | 21:38 |
| paulg | all the better for me. I'm basically a two trick pony. kernel C and shell. :) | 21:40 |
| paulg | and it is a bit of a stretch to say I'm any good at either of those. | 21:42 |
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| RP | paulg: right, you're rubbish at kernel stuff :) | 22:35 |
| paulg | RP, I don't write kernel code ; I just fix other people's screwups. :-P | 22:41 |
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| moto-timo | I wonder why rust toolchain takes so long to compile... | 23:11 |
| * moto-timo asks the Universe | 23:11 | |
| fray | moto-timo cause it's downloading everything it needs when it needs it, and your internet is slow? | 23:13 |
| moto-timo | lol | 23:13 |
| fray | pre-downloaded sources, that's so 2010 | 23:13 |
| moto-timo | it's actually compile time, but nice theory anyway | 23:13 |
| moto-timo | -j 0.125 | 23:14 |
| fray | well, I've found python modules that download at compile time before.. rust wouldn't surprise me.. :P | 23:14 |
| moto-timo | build from source, so 1990 | 23:14 |
| moto-timo | oh, I have found many evil download urchins | 23:14 |
| moto-timo | `make test` why are you downloading ANYTHING? | 23:15 |
| moto-timo | lol | 23:15 |
| moto-timo | air gap all the things | 23:15 |
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| RP | moto-timo: I put your series in for testing on the AB, thanks | 23:34 |
| moto-timo | RP: thank you for letting me know... I'll start watching for failures | 23:34 |
| RP | moto-timo: meta-aws shows some nice meta-oe warnings so it works :) https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/122/builds/681 | 23:35 |
| moto-timo | let the shouting and gnashing of teeth begin | 23:36 |
| moto-timo | I'll put on my shield belt, hopefully no one brings a lasgun to the party | 23:36 |
| tlhonmey | I always wondered why they didn't just do remote-controlled lasguns that could do the shooting from a safe distance and let the potential explosion be irrelevant... | 23:38 |
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