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| mckoan | good morning | 07:50 |
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| Guest76 | Hi there, I just want to double check, it seems that kirkstone is the future LTS, can you confirm that Dunfell will be LTS just as long as Kirkston, up to April 2024? | 08:15 |
| landgraf | Guest76: or Kirkstone LTS will be extended (if there will be demand) afaik | 08:16 |
| mckoan | Guest76: yes, it is writtend in the docs Dunfell will be LTS up to 2024 | 08:16 |
| Guest76 | Yes I saw that in the releases page, it was just to double check! | 08:17 |
| mckoan | landgraf: this is a question for RP | 08:17 |
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| landgraf | mckoan: right. | 08:17 |
| Guest76 | For new project on IMX6, you would go for Dunfell right? It's what's currently integrated by NXP. | 08:18 |
| Guest76 | My client asked me to integrate IMX6 on Yocto Kirkston, I'm not really sure that this is worth the effort | 08:19 |
| Guest76 | considering that both are LTS up to april 2024 and that NXP will probably do a much better job at integrating their SoCs in Yocto right? | 08:20 |
| Guest76 | (I'm a one man company x]) | 08:20 |
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| mckoan | Guest76: NXP is not following LTS policy | 08:32 |
| Guest76 | Oh right? They are currently on Dunfell, I've never experienced being in a non LTS version with a BSP from NXP. | 08:33 |
| Guest76 | There's probably a delay though | 08:33 |
| mckoan | Guest76: official NXP support is based on Zeus and Hardknott | 08:34 |
| mckoan | Guest76: NXP Community support is following thw YP roadmap | 08:34 |
| mckoan | Guest76: ask to your NXP FAE | 08:34 |
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| Guest76 | I'm on community version anyway | 08:37 |
| Guest76 | thanks for the clarification though | 08:37 |
| RP | Guest76: We don't know if kirkstone will be extended or not, dunfell will certainly not go any longer. I'd recommend using the latest you can | 08:50 |
| Guest76 | ok thanks a lot :) | 08:58 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 10:10 |
| qschulz | o/ | 10:14 |
| LetoThe2nd | \o | 10:17 |
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| turquoisetree | Hello guys, I am trying to enable uinput, but if I say ":~# modinfo uinput" on the target, it will just error out: "modinfo: ERROR: Module uinput not found." | 13:55 |
| turquoisetree | What am I missing? | 13:55 |
| turquoisetree | Isn't it sufficient to enable CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT? | 13:55 |
| qschulz | turquoisetree: 1) for modinfo to work, uinput needs to be built as a module | 13:58 |
| qschulz | so "m" in Kconfig/defconfig/.config | 13:59 |
| qschulz | 2) if your kernel driver is "y", then it's built-in the kernel and nothing special needs to be done to have it included | 13:59 |
| turquoisetree | I see, thank you. It is set to "y" | 14:00 |
| qschulz | if it's "m", you need to include the kernel module package to your image. oe-pkgdata-util find-path '*uinput*' should give you some clue which package should be brought in | 14:00 |
| qschulz | worst case scenario, you can always add kernel-modules to your image and all modules will be added to your image | 14:00 |
| turquoisetree | What confuses me is that I can read events, but not inject them. | 14:04 |
| turquoisetree | I have tried it with pythons evdev package with no success. | 14:04 |
| turquoisetree | Any idea how I could test, that uinput is correctly "set-up"? | 14:04 |
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| agherzan | JaMa: The usecase I had with the TCLIBC ?= was to be able to override its value from shell env. | 17:21 |
| agherzan | So the idea was to be able to provide a default value in the distro configuration but also let the user override that with a shell env definition through BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE | 17:21 |
| RP | Saur[m]: sgw: I've put some patched into master-next to try and move things forward, still debugging them though | 17:22 |
| agherzan | Now being forced to `=` - as per the side effect of the move - I can't provide that ability anymore because the distro file will override any cmdline definition/env variable. | 17:22 |
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| sgw | Morning RP: I see you and Saur[m] have been busy! Did you see my v3 patchset of 2 for the re-work, given the other changes, I probably need to rebase it against master-next | 18:08 |
| RP | sgw: not sure. master-next is broken though :( | 18:09 |
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| Saur[m] | RP: If you are removing the generic support for wildcards in the license lists, is there any real reason to keep those pseudo wildcards for "GPL-3.0*" and "LGPL-3.0*"? To me they are more confusing than beneficial since previously "GPL-3.0*" would have expanded to "GPL-3.0-only GPL-3.0-or-later GPL-3.0-with-autoconf-exception GPL-3.0-with-GCC-exception". And I can imagine all sorts of variants of "*GPL-3*", "*GPL-3.0*", "*GPL-3.0", etc being in | 18:41 |
| Saur[m] | use. | 18:41 |
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| khem | I think there is a use of having something on top level to ignore/include all or none of GPL3 family of licenses | 18:45 |
| Saur[m] | Well, it is not match harder to write "GPL-3.0-only GPL-3.0-or-later LGPL-3.0-only LGPL-3.0-or-later" than "GPL-3.0* LGPL-3.0*". | 18:47 |
| Saur[m] | much harder* | 18:48 |
| khem | nothing is harder, once you know about things, but many folks do not know about such nuances, and they keep changing too | 18:49 |
| Saur[m] | Well, with RP's latest changes, there is now an error message if you use any pattern in the incompatible licenses except "GPL-3.0*" and "LGPL-3.0*". But with that error message in place I think we could just as well remove the remaining two as well. Especially as at least I find it confusing that "GPL-3.0*" now will expand to "GPL-3.0-only GPL-3.0-or-later" rather than "GPL-3.0-only GPL-3.0-or-later GPL-3.0-with-autoconf-exception | 18:53 |
| Saur[m] | GPL-3.0-with-GCC-exception" as it did before. | 18:53 |
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| rfs613 | beginner question... building core-image-minimal ... I see it compiling sqlite3, various X11-related stuffs including libx11, perl, ... is this normal for "minimal" ? | 19:51 |
| derRichard | rfs613: yes. please note that not everything that gets build is also installed on the final rootfs | 19:58 |
| Saur[m] | rfs613: It is quite common to have to build more than what is needed for the image you are building. Consider a recipe foo that in addition to the main package foo also produces a package called foo-scripts. This latter package contains some Perl scripts and thus depends on perl. Regardless if you are going to install foo-scripts in your image, bitbake has to build it and thus has to build its dependencies. | 19:59 |
| rfs613 | ok, but this has an interesting "side-effect" for CVE checking: on the first build, a whole lot of extra stuff may get built, and CVEs therein get reported. On subsequent builds (when you clean out "tmp" but keep sstate_cache) it only seems to do CVE checks on the packages actually installed. | 20:02 |
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| derRichard | rfs613: i fear the cve checking logic is not perfect (yet) | 20:10 |
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| khem | well a lot of these packages are needed to build the target packages, so if you see a bunch of native recipes in build thats what it is doing | 20:13 |
| rfs613 | derRichard: it seems the checking currently happens alonside the unpack/patch steps... I wonder if it could instead be triggred by the do_install somehow? | 20:13 |
| derRichard | dunno :) | 20:14 |
| rfs613 | khem: the -native ones are fairly easy to ignore in the cve-check output... but I certainly watched it build libx11 for the target, and dozens more, none of which are in the resulting filesystem | 20:15 |
| khem | rfs613: if your distro is including ptest in distro_feature then it pulls in some perl packages which create a huge set of dependencies even it will try to build target toolchain etc. I would suggest to add DISTRO_FEATRUES:remove = "ptest" and try | 20:18 |
| rfs613 | khem: indeed, "ptest" is in there by default (this is a plain poky build as per https://docs.yoctoproject.org/brief-yoctoprojectqs/index.html). | 20:20 |
| rfs613 | also to be clear, I'm not looking for a quick fix here, I am more curious if others have the same concern about cve-check, and whether we want to try an see if it can be improved. | 20:22 |
| rfs613 | I'd offer patches but my python is still pretty weak, and I think there needs to be some idea of what the correct behaviour should be, before I make any attempts to implement... | 20:23 |
| khem | yeah it will be good to be more objective and consistent with the check no matter if it is first or reused from sstate | 20:25 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: How many people actually list/want the exception licenses in INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE in the first place though? | 23:45 |
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| agherzan | go recipes fail after the advent of network restriction in do_compile | 23:55 |
| agherzan | Sent a patch to allow it go bbclass do_compile: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/162517 | 23:56 |
| agherzan | it in* | 23:56 |
| RP | agherzan: this is like saying we no longer care about source mirrors or license manifests :( | 23:57 |
| agherzan | I know. And I agree RP it's not great. Do we have an alternative at this point? | 23:58 |
| RP | agherzan: no, but as soon as I take that patch everyone will stop caring again :( | 23:58 |
| agherzan | I see. | 23:59 |
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