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| kp7299[m] | As a developer perspective, I want to know what ptests do for developers, specifically why ptests are used and who is end user | 02:32 |
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| kp7299[m] | I have read wiki documentation, but yeah, it is for end users, but wanted to know about in aspect to developers | 02:33 |
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| kp7299[m] | I'm trying to understand the requirements of ptest issue | 02:42 |
| kp7299[m] | RP: ndec or anyone who knows | 02:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:41 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:08 |
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| RP | kp7299[m]: they give us a way of testing a component so we can have some idea it is functioning as intended | 07:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | kp7299[m]: you might want to watch https://youtu.be/sn0zKn1Wrc8 | 07:33 |
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| qschulz | mornin' folks | 07:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | yo qschulz | 07:44 |
| amahnui[m] | Hi Quentin 👋 | 07:56 |
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| kp7299[m] | <RP> "kp7299: they give us a way of..." <- But as per issue which is there, in which we are required to write ptest for curl, and I have checked for some other ptest which were implemented for perl, python and so on... but still unable to get flow of these ptest and what need to be kept in mind for writing these, basically in what direction I should work for writing these ptest in context of curl and ptest | 08:34 |
| jclsn | Gruetzi mitanand | 08:43 |
| jclsn | Oh wrong language | 08:43 |
| jclsn | Good morning | 08:43 |
| qschulz | Oida | 08:46 |
| RP | kp7299[m]: I don't understand what you're asking. curl presumably has some tests in it and the idea would be to enable those tests within our automated test framework, ptest being the mechanism by which we'd do that? | 08:47 |
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| rburton | kp7299[m]: for curl specifically, some old patches that never got merged (but would be a good starting point) are https://www.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2017-July/139176.html | 09:59 |
| RP | rburton: welcome back! | 10:04 |
| rburton | tired. need a break :) | 10:04 |
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| RP | rburton: know that feeling :/ | 10:08 |
| kp7299[m] | Alright, rburton RP Specifically my first step should be to search for those curl tests which are already there, then I should check for this never merged patch, As RP has given context and LetoThe2nd thanks for youtube video for getting more into end user context | 10:08 |
| rburton | essentially ptests are a way to run the package's tests on the target. curl has a test suite, so that patch installs it into the ptest package. | 10:09 |
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| td95 | Hi, | 10:25 |
| td95 | do you have any interesting job interview (regular and advanced) questions about Yocto that you could share? :) | 10:26 |
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| amahnui[m] | Hi rburton: | 11:55 |
| amahnui[m] | Welcome back. | 11:55 |
| qschulz | kp7299[m]: what a fortunate timing :) https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/164625 this is a patch that was sent to add support for ptest in libgpg-error recipe | 12:04 |
| qschulz | I don't know if it is proper, neither if it works | 12:04 |
| qschulz | but it should maybe help you figure some things out :) | 12:04 |
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| qschulz | kp7299[m]: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#testing-packages-with-ptest and we actulaly have docs | 12:06 |
| qschulz | (didn't know before looking :) ) | 12:07 |
| jclsn | I am still wondering if this PREMIRRORS issue I have is acttually a bug or if I am not just doing things wrong. I have pushed my sources to Artifactory by pushing the complete downloads directory. This path I set as SOURCE_MIRROR_URL and then put BB_FETCH_PREMIRRORONLY = "1", which doesn't work. It still tries to fetch from the normal repos. | 12:08 |
| jclsn | When I put BB_NO_NETWORK = "1", it doesn fetch from Artifactory, but then complains that it can't because there is no network. | 12:09 |
| jclsn | RP: Is this the right way to do it? | 12:09 |
| jclsn | Probably not... | 12:09 |
| amahnui[m] | <rburton> "essentially ptests are a way..." <- Can this be used to test for the effect of changes on any script and be sure that the changes never broke the script where the changes took place? | 12:11 |
| jclsn | Are PREMIRRORS only used for local mirrors? | 12:12 |
| barometz | PREMIRRORS by default point to downloads.yoctoproject.org, so no. | 12:14 |
| barometz | I set up exactly the same thing about a month ago (with Artifactory, too) and what you're describing sounds right, so this devil is probably in a detail | 12:15 |
| jclsn | Oh they are https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#source-mirror-s | 12:15 |
| jclsn | barmometz: Would you share your config? | 12:16 |
| barometz | note that https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#own-mirrors-bbclass also uses a http url | 12:16 |
| barometz | sure, one sec | 12:16 |
| jclsn | So https doesn't work? | 12:17 |
| barometz | it does, yeah, I just meant to distinguish between "local shared folder" and anything you might consider more remote | 12:17 |
| barometz | `SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "https://<artifactory host>:443/artifactory/<repo>/mirror/sources/"; INHERIT += "own-mirrors"` (the mirror/sources/ path is entirely optional, I just thought I'd stick with downloads.yoctoprojects.org's organization in case we ever want to mirror other stuff) | 12:19 |
| barometz | That snippet is in our base distro file | 12:20 |
| barometz | You can check your do_fetch logs to see what's actually happening during fetch, if you haven't yet | 12:20 |
| jclsn | I always see that anyway | 12:25 |
| jclsn | ERROR: at-spi2-core-native-2.36.1-r0 do_fetch: Network access disabled through BB_NO_NETWORK (or set indirectly due to use of BB_FETCH_PREMIRRORONLY) but access requested with command /usr/bin/env wget -t 2 -T 30 --passive-ftp --no-check-certificate -P /home/user/Workspace/Yocto/vti1/../downloads | 12:25 |
| jclsn | 'https://artifactory.cluster:443/artifactory/yocto_source_mirror/basesystem/at-spi2-core-2.36.1.tar.xz' (for url https://artifactory.cluster:443/artifactory/yocto_source_mirror/basesystem/at-spi2-core-2.36.1.tar.xz) | 12:25 |
| * barometz headtilt | 12:27 | |
| barometz | Nowhere in the documentation does it suggest that PREMIRRORONLY implies NO_NETWORK | 12:27 |
| jclsn | I also don't see how that makes sense | 12:28 |
| barometz | Have you tried it without the PREMIRRORONLY option? We're not using that (in part because some recipes download stuff we don't want in our premirror) and everything is fine | 12:29 |
| jclsn | Plus: When I set NO_NETWORK = "0" and keep it on | 12:29 |
| jclsn | ERROR: libedit-native-20191231-3.1-r0 do_fetch: Network access disabled through BB_NO_NETWORK (or set indirectly due to use of BB_FETCH_PREMIRRORONLY) but access requested with command /usr/bin/env wget -t 2 -T 30 --passive-ftp --no-check-certificate -P /home/user/Workspace/Yocto/my-machine/../downloads | 12:29 |
| jclsn | 'http://www.thrysoee.dk/editline/libedit-20191231-3.1.tar.gz' (for url http://www.thrysoee.dk/editline/libedit-20191231-3.1.tar.gz) | 12:29 |
| jclsn | ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/user/Workspace/Yocto/my-machine/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/libedit-native/20191231-3.1-r0/temp/log.do_fetch.678: | 12:29 |
| jclsn | Now it doesn't try to fetch from Artifactory and still complains that there is no network | 12:29 |
| barometz | ah, I think the error message may just be wrong | 12:29 |
| RP | jclsn: BB_NO_NETWORK would stop it using PREMIRRORS too. You want the PREMIRRORONLY option alone I think | 12:30 |
| jclsn | If NO_NETWORK is set by FETCH_PREMIRRORONLY this shouldn't make a difference | 12:30 |
| * RP is just going from memory though | 12:30 | |
| barometz | The manual does say "any network accesses to anything other than the PREMIRRORS would fail.", which suggests to me that PREMIRRORONLY maybe works as a sort partial NO_NETWORK? But that's entirely speculative on my part | 12:31 |
| * RP would agree with that | 12:31 | |
| jclsn | RP: It shouldn't make a difference https://github.com/openembedded/bitbake/blob/c212b0f3b542efa19f15782421196b7f4b64b0b9/lib/bb/fetch2/__init__.py#L1747 | 12:32 |
| jclsn | So if this is really a bug in bitbake, I would try to convince our Product Owner to make some time for fixing it | 12:33 |
| RP | jclsn: It will make a difference as premirroronly sets it for anything != premirror whereas setting BB_NO_NETWORK sets it everywhere | 12:34 |
| jclsn | Okay | 12:34 |
| RP | Perhaps it should error if both are set just to be clear? | 12:34 |
| jclsn | RP: Why does bitbake only try to fetch from Artifactory when I set BB_NO_NETWORK then? | 12:35 |
| qschulz | jclsn: because I assume you don't have a local copy of this and the fetcher needs to get the sources somewhere? | 12:35 |
| qschulz | thus it tries to fetch it but cannot because you disabled the network? | 12:36 |
| RP | jclsn: which fetcher does artifactory use? | 12:36 |
| jclsn | qschulz: That is the whole point of Artifactory! I want Bitbake to fetch from there instead from external sources, so I can build without internet access | 12:37 |
| jclsn | RP: What do you mean by which fetcher? | 12:37 |
| RP | jclsn: do we have an artifactory fetcher? | 12:37 |
| jclsn | RP: I was hoping you did | 12:38 |
| barometz | It's just https, nothing fancy. | 12:38 |
| jclsn | Oh that you mean | 12:38 |
| jclsn | Yeah https | 12:38 |
| RP | right, plain https is ok. I was getting confused for a minute | 12:39 |
| RP | jclsn: when you set BB_NO_NETWORK it shouldn't trying https | 12:39 |
| jclsn | # Pull only from Artifactory | 12:40 |
| jclsn | BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS = "1" | 12:40 |
| jclsn | INHERIT += "own-mirrors" | 12:40 |
| jclsn | SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "https://artifactory.cluster:443/artifactory/yocto_source_mirror/basesystem/" | 12:40 |
| jclsn | BB_FETCH_PREMIRRORONLY = "1" | 12:40 |
| jclsn | BB_NO_NETWORK = "0" | 12:40 |
| jclsn | That is my config | 12:40 |
| jclsn | RP: Exactly and it should still try it when setting FETCH_PREMIRORONLY | 12:41 |
| jclsn | I don't get it | 12:41 |
| jclsn | barometz: Still waiting for you config btw dum di dum | 12:42 |
| barometz | I posted up higher up, bu tI see now | 12:42 |
| barometz | you can't generate mirror tarballs from the mirror, I think | 12:42 |
| barometz | the generate tarballs option is used separately, not during the regular build | 12:42 |
| RP | jclsn: I suspect BB_NO_NETWORK = "0" doesn't work, you need to not set it | 12:42 |
| jclsn | RP: Works for my colleagues with their ftp server | 12:43 |
| jclsn | It also doesn't make a difference. I just explicitly set it | 12:43 |
| jclsn | barometz: I can only see that you posted a broken linked to the yoctoproject's website | 12:43 |
| RP | the bitbake code is using bb.utils.to_boolean(d.getVar("BB_NO_NETWORK")) so that should work I guess | 12:44 |
| RP | a lot of the code doesn't do that FWIW so I'm caution against "0" values | 12:45 |
| barometz | jclsn: ' SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "https://<artifactory host>:443/artifactory/<repo>/mirror/sources/"; INHERIT += "own-mirrors" ' (the mirror/sources/ path is entirely optional, I just thought I'd stick with downloads.yoctoprojects.org's organization in case we ever want to mirror other stuff) | 12:45 |
| barometz | is literally the only thing we have in our distro file for this | 12:45 |
| jclsn | barrometz: Okay sorry then | 12:46 |
| jclsn | It is exactly like mine twb | 12:46 |
| jclsn | btw | 12:46 |
| jclsn | When I set all PREMIRROS one by one like this | 12:57 |
| jclsn | https://pastebin.com/efj5MZKP | 12:59 |
| jclsn | it does work but I am getting checksum errors | 12:59 |
| jclsn | When I use the same wget command manually thought and compare the files, the checksum is correct | 12:59 |
| jclsn | Do I need to push the .done file as well? | 13:03 |
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| jclsn | **sigh** | 13:21 |
| sotaoverride | good morning | 13:21 |
| jclsn | Good afternoon | 13:21 |
| sotaoverride | Greetings to all. Back to figuring out overlayfs today. Didint really get to it yesterday. | 13:24 |
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| qschulz | RP: sigh.. I broke the obsolete message on the docs website.. (it hasn't been regenerated for some reason right now but it's broken locally when building with the yocto-autobuilder-helper script) | 13:28 |
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| RP | qschulz: I don't know why it didn't regenerate but I won't force anything until there are patches I guess? | 13:30 |
| RP | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/114 shows it didn't build, don't know why | 13:30 |
| qschulz | RP: yeah, please don't force it just yet.. need to do this properly this time | 13:32 |
| qschulz | (by checking out to the tag directly instead of playing with the argument of set_versions.py | 13:32 |
| RP | qschulz: I only just merged the changes too. I did some testing locally but clearly didn't test everything I should have :( | 13:33 |
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| neverpanic | td95: At my previous employer, we always asked what (in the opinion of the candidate) is the worst part about Yocto and bitbake. | 13:58 |
| Habbie | that's a great question | 13:58 |
| neverpanic | td95: People who've used it before usually have an answer for that, and an interesting story to share. | 13:58 |
| neverpanic | (Not saying bitbake is bad, btw. Each system has its upsides and downsides, and none of the alternatives are better IMHO.) | 13:59 |
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| vvn | with systemd you don't need to install udev too, right? | 14:16 |
| vvn | (in terms of packages) | 14:16 |
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| rburton | right | 14:39 |
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| amahnui[m] | Hi rburton: I sent you a pm concerning the outreachy time commitments and how to fill it. | 15:04 |
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| rburton | amahnui[m]: i don't see any messages | 15:30 |
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| hpsy[m] | Any pointer on how to debug these kind of issues:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/49e392a0bad19e96e6f1ca638d29edbf6759832b) | 16:20 |
| rburton | hpsy[m]: first step is can you replicate after you removed your custom layers | 16:21 |
| amahnui[m] | rburton: I just sent it again | 16:22 |
| rburton | amahnui[m]: still nothing | 16:23 |
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| amahnui[m] | As I read on the outreachy portal, it says we need to discuss with our mentors to come up with the time commitments for the final application | 16:31 |
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| hpsy[m] | rburton: Till now I haven't been able to, so I thought I would try to understand what differences are detected, it could at least point me in the right direction. | 16:39 |
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| amahnui[m] | s/As/rburton:/ | 16:58 |
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| rburton | amahnui[m]: the expectation is fairly fulltime, unless you can't do that | 17:05 |
| khem | rburton: https://errors.yoctoproject.org/Errors/Build/144722/ this is without meta-clang and using gcc12 | 17:15 |
| khem | rburton: its still using clang++ from host and failing ../git/inc/hf/panic.h:13:1: error: '_Noreturn' is a C11 extension [-Werror,-Wc11-extensions] | 17:16 |
| rburton | i hate hafnium | 17:16 |
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| amahnui[m] | <rburton> "amahnui: the expectation is..." <- Full time is 8 hours a day right? | 17:19 |
| rburton | amahnui[m]: the outreachy page says 30, so 6 | 17:19 |
| rburton | khem: it should be using the prebuilt clang, i wonder why it isn't | 17:20 |
| rburton | khem: so you have a new clang on the host? | 17:20 |
| amahnui[m] | rburton: I can | 17:21 |
| amahnui[m] | Can I use the task from the outreachy portal to fill the time commitments? | 17:21 |
| rburton | yes | 17:22 |
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| khem | rburton: I have clang 13.x on host | 17:56 |
| khem | rburton: why are you canning compiler for an app, its so wrong | 17:56 |
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| rburton | khem: blame google | 18:23 |
| rburton | we've someone who has been spending serious time un-googling the build system | 18:23 |
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| vmeson | rburton: they missed the boat when naming that project, it should have been called: halfnivm or halfniu-vm | 18:47 |
| rburton | :) | 18:47 |
| vmeson | The only intro sort of docs, that I found is: https://hafnium.googlesource.com/hafnium/+/HEAD/docs/Architecture.md -- if you happen to have a better one, I might actually skim it. | 18:48 |
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| vmeson | ah, found: https://www.trustedfirmware.org/projects/hafnium/ | 18:49 |
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| * kp7299[m] uploaded an image: (52KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/TVwrBeyTRhPZkJnTBtzNtjIq/image.png > | 19:52 | |
| kp7299[m] | I was unable to see these patches in master branch , but these were in honister branch, is there some specific reason for the same? | 19:52 |
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| Saur[m] | kp7299: The version of curl in master is newer and already have those patches as part of the upstream code. | 19:56 |
| kevinrowland | Hey all. What does "support" mean in the context of the YP Releases page: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases ? If Hardknott has support until this month, what happens next month? :) | 19:57 |
| Saur[m] | kp7299: See commit b4f08791 in openembedded-core (or commit a901b318 in poky). | 19:57 |
| Saur[m] | kevinrowland: After the next Hardknott release, there will typically not be any more. | 19:58 |
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| paulg | two identical builds, 2nd links in sstate-cache from the 1st, and also adds systemd to conf/local.conf | 19:59 |
| paulg | mostly everything gets recycled, but wait for it... glibc-2.35 gets recompiled. | 19:59 |
| paulg | oh, well and the kernel, but I expected that, given the systemd.scc that exists. | 19:59 |
| paulg | I didn't expect glibc to need rebuilding. | 20:00 |
| paulg | qemu arm 64 and core-image-full-cmdline ; not that it should matter. | 20:00 |
| kevinrowland | Saur[m]: thanks very much! | 20:02 |
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| paulg | glibc rebuild eventually triggers some other rebuilding once you march down the dependency chain... not surprising. | 20:11 |
| yudjinn[m] | Is arch a bad idea for yocto dev? | 20:11 |
| kp7299[m] | Saur: Are all the patches being accepted through master branch only or is it origin/master ? basically the latest one which you are saying, which exact branch is ir? | 20:11 |
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| Saur[m] | kp7299: `origin/master` is your local reference to the upstream `master` branch (assuming your upstream is called `origin`, which it is by default). When you checkout a local `master` branch, it then tracks the `origin/master` branch by default. | 20:19 |
| rburton | yudjinn[m]: it mostly works but you'll quite possible hit problems caused by newer host packages before most other people | 20:20 |
| yudjinn[m] | Gotcha. I'm having issues just getting minimal to work | 20:21 |
| Saur[m] | kp7299: The `master` branch of `openembedded-core` is the development branch where everything new is expected to happen. | 20:21 |
| rburton | paulg: that's because glibc inherits systemd, because it ships a unit | 20:21 |
| rburton | yudjinn[m]: using a tested distribution means we don't just tell you to use a tested distribution :). but say what the error is, might not be arch related | 20:22 |
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| paulg | eeech - systemd engulfs something ; why am I not surprised. | 20:23 |
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| yudjinn[m] | rburton: yeah I'm planning on going to fedora if arch gives too much issue. I'm hoping it was just an issue of missing rpm-tools, attempting the build again now | 20:24 |
| * paulg sheds a tear and waves bye to PS/2 and i8042 | 20:32 | |
| Saur[m] | yudjinn: You should not need to have RPM tools installed on the host. bitbake should build them as part of the build if needed... | 20:33 |
| yudjinn[m] | The openssl do_package_write faile | 20:35 |
| Saur[m] | yudjinn: Do you have the `log.do_package_write` log file from that build? If so, please provide it (via pastebin or similar). | 20:37 |
| yudjinn[m] | Saur @Saur:libera.chat: I'm trying to follow the getting started docs, where do I find the log file? | 20:42 |
| yudjinn[m] | Oh, wait. After installing rpm-tools on my host, the build succeeded | 20:43 |
| Saur[m] | Hmm, interesting... | 20:44 |
| yudjinn[m] | For future reference, where can I find the log files, though? | 20:44 |
| Saur[m] | yudjinn: Something like `tmp/work/<architecture>/openssl/<version>/temp/log.do_package_write_rpm` where `<architecture>` and `<version>` depends on what target you are building for, and which version of OE you are using. | 20:46 |
| sotaoverride | how can I get overlayfs bbclass to work wuth dunfell? | 20:49 |
| sotaoverride | is it something doable, the backporting etc, or should I not be considering it even? | 20:50 |
| yudjinn[m] | Saur: here's the error log: https://pastebin.com/b7unkdLi | 20:51 |
| yudjinn[m] | I believe | 20:51 |
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| RP | paulg: I wondered if anyone would miss them! :) | 21:00 |
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| Saur[m] | yudjinn: Unfortunately `package_write_rpm` is a Python task so there is not much to go on in the log. The `exit 137 from 'rpmbuild ...'` indicates that `rpmbuild` was terminated by a `kill -9`, but there is nothing to tell why... | 21:02 |
| yudjinn[m] | I'm on kirkstone, if that matters Saur | 21:02 |
| paulg | RP, I would have complained if they were removed from generic x86-64 and not just qemu... | 21:03 |
| RP | paulg: totally, it is qemu where we they're being a pain | 21:06 |
| paulg | yet another pre-y2k peripheral/infrastructure that finds its way going up the wrong side of the bathtub curve | 21:08 |
| paulg | 8250 might have been closer to death if there weren't those usb-2-serial dongles everywhere | 21:09 |
| RP | paulg: it is weird how some things survive | 21:11 |
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