Tuesday, 2022-10-25

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kiwi_29_[m]<rburton> "kiwi_29_: do recommend using ipk..." <- Hello rburton and kanavin  ... why not use deb?01:43
kiwi_29_[m]Here is my problem... I am trying to install cron daemon.  I am using http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-extended/cronie/cronie_1.6.1.bb?h=master.     recipe... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7dcd9771ce92dc36928badcc1d45c07a779a2c16>)01:46
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mckoangood morning06:54
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qschulzo/07:52
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kanavinkiwi_29_[m], deb is not very well tested. ipk is the default and used by most.08:04
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RPmorning!09:25
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GuestNewHello all, I would like to migrate a custom function from .bbappend to .inc (and include it from the bbappend). But i'm not able to call dtc binary from the .inc. Everything works from .bbappend. I have missed something ?09:35
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qschulzGuestNew: something adds dtc-native to your sysroot, I guess your .inc function is called in recipes which do not have this explicit dependency09:42
qschulzmight be a recipe depending ona  recipe, depending on a recipe, depending ona  recipe, etc...09:42
GuestNewI have already DEPENDS += "dtc-native" in the recipe ( i'm trying to update u-boot recipe) and dtc is callable from the .bb :S there is no restriction to put it inside .inc ?09:43
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rburtonRP: morning09:49
JaMaRP: wb! :)09:49
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qschulzGuestNew: no restriction, so I believe your .inc is used in other places or is not included or you're breaking something09:51
GuestNewOk I have added a bbwarn to checked and all looks okay. Thanks to confirm the issue is on my side. Appreciate your help:)  thx09:51
* RP wonders where to start09:53
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Saur[m]RP: Take another week of vacation? ;)09:55
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RPSaur[m]: tempting :)09:56
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX10:24
mckoanLetoThe2nd: hey o/10:25
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kanavinRP: hello :-)11:08
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LetoThe2ndi've got an image recipe that is reported as a changing basehash, but doing the -Snone, -Sprintdiff procedure in non-revealing, any ideas how to dig?11:32
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sa7mfoHi, I'm trying to override recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf/system.conf with my own configuration. I have a meta layer that contains the file. But my image still contains the original one. Is this file treated special?11:42
LetoThe2ndsa7mfo: "layer that contains the file" means? how is it added?11:42
sa7mfoI have another meta-layer with priority 7 that has the file recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf/system.conf11:44
LetoThe2ndsa7mfo: i don't think this will be picked up without a bbappend that adds it the the FILES path11:46
qschulzLetoThe2nd: correct, FILESEXTRAPATHS variable needs to be set in a bbappend in the layer11:48
sa7mfodoes not recipes-core/systemd/systemd-conf_1.0.bb (from poky) do that for you? I thought that all layers was merged (in priority order) into one big tree and files will be replaced by layers with higher priority?11:50
qschulzsa7mfo: no11:53
qschulzit's done on a recipe level, not on a layer level11:53
qschulzso all bbappends for a given recipes are included in the priority order for a recipe11:53
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sa7mfoqschulz: LetoThe2nd: it worked, thank you12:06
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LetoThe2ndsa7mfo: have fun!12:07
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michaeloHi JPEW: making more experiments... SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED seems to be unused12:27
michaeloand do nothing. Is that intended?12:28
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michaeloJPEW: and SPDX_ARCHIVE_SOURCES and SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES only seem to do something when they are both set to "1". Is this supposed to be like that?12:29
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JPEWmichaelo: I think they are orthogonal, but I don't remember for sure. AFK right now12:32
JPEWAh right, INCLUDE_SOURCES means to describe them in the side SPDX, ARCHIVE_SOURCES means also create an archive for later viewing12:33
JPEWSo, they could be orthogonal, but in practice I'm not sure why you would want the archive without having them described in the document12:34
michaeloJPEW: what do you mean by the "side" SPDX? Doesn't it get generated in tmp/deploy/spdx/?12:35
michaeloI'm not sure what you mean by "the document". So many files get generated.12:35
JPEWSorry on my phone. Meant "inside the SPDX" :)12:36
JPEWOr just "in the SPDX".12:37
michaeloOk, got it :)12:37
michaeloJPEW: so SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES is meant to add something to tmp/deploy/spdx, right? In my tests, it doesn't seem so.12:38
michaeloJPEW: and how do you run SPDX validation? I only seem to have individual json files, but I can't feed a directory archive to https://tools.spdx.org/app/validate/ for example.12:47
michaeloCouldn't there be a giant json file conflating them all?12:48
michaeloJPEW: sorry, many questions :}12:48
JPEWThat flag will make the SPDX json files much bigger, because they will include an entry for all the sources12:49
JPEWAnd.... Ya. Validation is a problem currently. We've sort of gotten ahead of the tooling. What we are doing is allowed and valid, but the tooling hasn't caught up12:50
JPEWHave you seen my presentations?12:50
JPEWHere is a talk I gave to SPDX: https://youtu.be/8X5PWa7A6pY12:52
JPEWAnd here is an ELC talk I gave: https://youtu.be/6zms_qGmVqg12:52
JPEWThere is some overlap, but I recommend watching both if you haven't already12:53
michaeloYep, I watched both :) So, what you said about the tooling is still valid then...12:56
michaeloJPEW: so, does SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED have any use?12:58
JPEWIIRC, it does the same where it describes the files in the SPDX json, making it bigger12:59
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JPEWWe can generate a lot of output, so there are knobs to control the size/completeness tradeoff13:00
JPEWSPDX 3 will be better13:01
michaeloJPEW: looking at meta/classes/create-spdx.bbclass, SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED is read into include_packaged, which doesn't appear anywhere else. That's why I have the impression it's not used.13:02
JPEWIt's the main focus of the SPDX group right now, and I'm trying to make sure it can handle some of our more advanced uses better from the start :)13:02
JPEWAh, it's possible that is the case13:02
michaeloJPEW: cool that you're involved in the SPDX 3 effort :)13:04
RPmichaelo: I just updated the docs branches but had to force push langdale to make it match what I'd merged. Hope that is ok!13:04
RPmichaelo: I'll diverge them from master now so that won't happen again13:04
michaeloRP: no problem at all :)13:09
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michaeloJPEW: I eventually found what was added by SPDX_INCLUDE_SOURCES. Thanks for the tips!13:29
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mcfriskwhy would recipes use ??= assignment for PACKAGECONFIG? those can't be amended with += in a bbappend, must use :append instead. += overwriting the full PACKAGECONFIG is not intuitive.13:32
mthenaultHi, Why is TOPDIR and DEPLOYDIR not defined in do_deploy_append() inside a .bbappend ? This is defined in the .bb13:38
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qschulzmthenault: DEPLOYDIR for sure should be defined in a bbappend13:46
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qschulzmthenault: so we need more info on what you're trying to do, what you did, what you are expecting to happen and what actually happens13:47
qschulzmthenault: (make sure you inherit the deploy class in your bb/bbappend for starters)13:47
mthenaultqschulz: my bad.. It was due to a bad syntax. It is indeed defined :)13:49
qschulzmthenault: :)13:50
mthenaultthanks anyway!13:50
michaeloJPEW: what shall we do about SPDX_INCLUDE_PACKAGED which looks unused? Shall I file a bug so that you can have a look later at your own convenience?13:54
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JPEWmichaelo: yes please14:07
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michaeloJPEW: ok, thanks!14:21
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rburtonarmpit khem if you're merging stuff to meta-oe and get those annoying "via lists.oe" authorships, https://github.com/rossburton/ross-tools/blob/master/authormunger.py might be useful14:40
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michaeloJPEW: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1494815:03
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armpitrburton: Khem seems to deal with master stuff15:57
rburtonRP: fwiw filed https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14949 for usrmerge. kicked a qemuarm64-alt build to see what explodes, and will fire selftest too for a giggle15:57
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RPrburton: thanks15:59
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kergothmcfrisk: yes, that's a terrible behavior, we really need to fix that. It's not expected for config metadta value for that variable to override the recipe. the recipe should just use =, and we can use :append or a pn-override if you need to adjust it18:15
kergoth(re ??= for PACKAGECONFIG)18:16
kergothmcfrisk: i'm sure patches would be welcomed :) I keep having to fight other fires myself18:16
axelparoltaHowdy, I'm working on a project that requires OTA and secure boot. I stumbled upon OSTree which sounds promising. However, I haven't found any documentation talking about OSTree + Secure boot. Is there anything that would prevent the secure boot from working in conjunction with OSTree?18:17
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mischiefis there a way to prevent kbd from being built, if for example i remove vconsole from systemd PACKAGECONFIG?21:17
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