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| Guest42 | hello! I am new to Yocto and I would like some help setting up a real-time preempt_rt kernel for beaglebone black through Yocto. | 03:48 |
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| Guest42 | I have attempted a variety of things but so far nothing has been working | 03:48 |
| Guest42 | If possible, could someone give me a step by step tutorial to accomplish this? | 03:49 |
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| Guest42 | can anyone help me here? or should I try to send an email to the mailing list? | 04:40 |
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| ykrons | Hello | 05:49 |
| Guest42 | Hello | 05:49 |
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| ykrons | How should the runtime dependencies be specified in multilib world? For example, if I build lib32-mypackage in a 64bit image and it depends for build on libcurl, I will add DEPENDS += "curl" and it will add lib32-curl to sysroot, that's fine. | 05:57 |
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| ykrons | But for runtime dependencies, if mypackage depends on curl, if I add RDEPENDS_{PN} += "curl", I think that it will add lib32-curl to my image whereas the dependency can be resolved by the 64bit curl package. So should runtime dependencies be specified out of the recipe ? | 05:59 |
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| xcm | hello. i added dnsmasq to my image and now it fails with "ERROR: QA Issue: /usr/bin/dnsmasq-resolvconf-helper contained in package dnsmasq requires /bin/bash, but no providers found in RDEPENDS:dnsmasq? [file-rdeps]". i don't seem to even need this file because it says it's inteded for systemd-only anyway. what can i do? | 07:33 |
| xcm | fwiw my build does (not on purpose) pull bash in | 07:33 |
| xcm | ah, `RDEPENDS:${PN} += "bash"` in the .bbappend fixed it. | 07:36 |
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| DarkKnight | Hi everyone. I add CFLAGS_my_module.o := -DDEBUG to the makefile of an out of tree kernel module. But somehow bitbake does not apply additional cflags. What am I doing wrong? | 09:54 |
| rburton | the makefile is probably overriding it with the variables used | 09:55 |
| rburton | not really a yocto thing, that's just how make works | 09:55 |
| DarkKnight | rburton Thanks! that makes sense. Is there any way that I can force it in recipe to include the additional flag? | 09:59 |
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| mcfrisk | did https://summit.yoctoproject.org just go down? I was trying to fill https://summit.yoctoproject.org/yocto-project-summit-2022-11/submit/ | 10:07 |
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| wyre | how is BB_NUMBER_THREADS and PARALLEL_MAKE determined when they aren't set in conf/local.conf? | 13:09 |
| mcfrisk | wyre: thread count of the build machine is checked. note that amount of RAM is not and building non-trivial can result in oom killer breaking the build. | 13:14 |
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| JaMa | mcfrisk: not only the build, but it will also sometimes kill your networking and you might fail to ssh after OOMK runs (happened to me few times - always only when I'm traveling and need to access home builder only remotely) | 13:21 |
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| mcfrisk | JaMa: ouch, that's bad. I've only seen compiler related processes getting killed when doing bitbake builds in the last 8 years. I've been very lucky it seems. | 13:27 |
| mcfrisk | or my CPU thread count relation to availabe RAM has been "good". Less than rwo Gb of RAM | 13:28 |
| mcfrisk | less than two Gb of RAM per thread would have been really bad, but I've been over that | 13:29 |
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| JaMa | mcfrisk: http://dpaste.com/E822JE7HZ few unlucky kills in last few months | 13:31 |
| JaMa | I should figure out how to configure OOMK to always kill some cc1plus first | 13:31 |
| JaMa | and more recent days, similar story https://dpaste.com/7G3ZMQAWW | 13:34 |
| JaMa | with 128G ram on 32c/64t threadripper | 13:34 |
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| mcfrisk | I used a 128G and 42 thread machine for a long time, 64 seems to be too much. Are BB_PRESSURE_MAX_CPU and BB_PRESSURE_MAX_MEMORY ready to replace thread counts already? | 13:40 |
| JaMa | mcfrisk: I've set BB_PRESSURE_* some time ago and it helps a bit, but doesn't prevent OOMK when I get crazy and trigger 2nd build in parallel (usually thinking that I have valid sstate for all the big recipes and just needing to refresh the image a bit - and ending rebuilding chromium or something anyway) | 13:43 |
| JaMa | or when I impatient and trigger 2nd build after 1st _almost_ finished building chromium - in this case BB_PRESSURE makes it a bit worse, because chromium build in 1st build slows down significantly and instead of finishing before 2nd one starts it ends with both builds crawling at the same time | 13:46 |
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| fray | I ran into an issue. Updating from Honister to Langdale. I am using 'crda' for wifi stuff, but something changed and now packagegroup-base-wifi requires wireless-regdb-static (all from poky/oe-core), but this has a conflicts with crda | 14:04 |
| fray | is crda no longer used? Or is there some other way to tell the system to NOT use packagegroup-base-wifi, but use crda instead? | 14:04 |
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| JaMa | fray: that rings a bell, do you really need crda still? https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mcgrof/crda.git/commit/?id=f4ef2531698fb9ba006e8b31a223b3269be8bc7c | 14:20 |
| fray | I don't know | 14:20 |
| fray | If it's no longer needed that is fine, just the descriptions of the contents don't make that obvious.. the commit you pointed to seems to make it that its no longer needed | 14:21 |
| JaMa | I've removed it from our images a while ago https://github.com/webosose/meta-webosose/commit/927418fe527d945bee5ff441d5adcc73b96ff640 in dunfell already | 14:22 |
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| fray | thanks, it does seem like it's obsolete. I've removed it locally as well | 14:28 |
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| LetoThe2nd | ... did I mention the YPS 2022.11 cfp lately? https://summit.yoctoproject.org/yocto-project-summit-2022-11/cfp | 14:39 |
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| vvn | many systemd services explode with using read-only-rootfs. Is one supposed to edit all such services to set a different state directory or disable writes if possible or am I missing a (systemd) feature? | 16:30 |
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| Ebeneezer_Smooge | vvn, it depends on the service. most of the ones I know of explode when /var is read-only which is pretty much meant to be a 'no-no'. using an overlay os is the usual solution | 16:41 |
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| Ebeneezer_Smooge | at least in Fedora... which I thought I was answering in versus yocto. | 16:42 |
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| vvn | Ebeneezer_Smooge: what annoys me with an overlayfs for / is that it requires a custom initrd script to do so if I'm not mistaken | 16:46 |
| Ebeneezer_Smooge | yeah sorry I haven't done much of this outside of seeing what is 'read-write' on an ostree system | 16:47 |
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| mischief | we use a readonly /, but the details of how we got there are forgotten now :-) | 17:06 |
| kergoth | Overlay or bind mounts for specific paths, there are options | 17:07 |
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| mischief | in our system we just never write to /, and only have rw mounts for /var and some other stuff | 19:02 |
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| vvn | that's where I'm heading too | 19:13 |
| vvn | overlay for /etc and /var or eventually the whole / if I can make it "pure-system" (i.e. fstab entries only and no custom scripts in the initrd) | 19:13 |
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| mischief | we have ro /etc to.. and moved most interesting stuff into /var or /run | 20:01 |
| khem | with systemd you will need /etc writable too for best results | 20:15 |
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| Salamandar | Even without systemd, ro /etc prevents setting the hostname, ip address network config, etc | 21:12 |
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| mischief | hm, we don't seem to have those sorts of problems with ro /etc. it has been possible for years, at least with tricks, to use systemd with ro / and /etc | 21:16 |
| Salamandar | So how does hostnamectl work on ro /etc ? | 21:17 |
| Salamandar | also networkmanager stores its config in /etc, although i would not be surprised if you can change that ^^ | 21:17 |
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| mischief | we don't use hostnamectl, nor networkmanager | 21:58 |
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| moto-timo | yocti, make me a sandwich | 23:22 |
| yocti | moto-timo: Error: "make" is not a valid command. | 23:22 |
| paulg | yocti, tell moto-timo to go make his own damn sammich. | 23:28 |
| yocti | paulg: The operation succeeded. | 23:28 |
| moto-timo | yocti, tell paulg the sammich was delish | 23:29 |
| yocti | moto-timo: The operation succeeded. | 23:29 |
| paulg | Fun with bots! | 23:29 |
| paulg | Apparently they don't have spell check either. | 23:30 |
| paulg | we'll have to get halstead on that. | 23:30 |
| halstead | paulg: what needs to be changed? | 23:33 |
| paulg | halstead, we are just joking around on how yocti didn't complain about me typing "sammich" | 23:34 |
| halstead | Ah.. no spell check indeed | 23:35 |
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